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Trade Rumors: Montgomery, Hernandez, Castro, Mets, Span, Stratton, Fulmer

By Mark Polishuk | December 12, 2017 at 11:47pm CDT

Left-hander Mike Montgomery wants to be a starting pitcher, and would like that opportunity with another team if there isn’t a spot for him in the Cubs’ rotation, sources close to Montgomery tell The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal.  Montgomery hasn’t told the Cubs about any desire to be traded, though he has told the team about his preference to start.  The 28-year-old has been a valuable swingman for Chicago since he was acquired in a trade from the Mariners in July 2016, and the team has been so actively looking for starting pitching that it seems Montgomery’s role won’t change in 2018.  Cubs GM Jed Hoyer told Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times and other media that Rosenthal’s report “kind of caught me by surprise….There hasn’t been any dialogue that should have spurred a report like that.  You just don’t know where it comes from.  But sometimes that happens.  Mike’s a great teammate.”  Montgomery is a valuable asset with four remaining years of team control, though he could also become a big trade chip for the Cubs if they did consider moving him.

Some more rumblings about trade talks….

  • The Phillies’ Cesar Hernandez is the latest second baseman on the Mets’ list of targets, FanRag Sports’ Jon Heyman reports (Twitter link).  Hernandez may come with the highest asking price, however, of any of the players — Ian Kinsler, Josh Harrison, Jason Kipnis — the Mets are considering, given Hernandez’s controllable salary.  One infielder the Mets aren’t interested in is new Marlins second baseman Starlin Castro.
  • The Giants are believed to have offered Denard Span as one of the three players going to the Marlins for Giancarlo Stanton, Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle reports.  Span would have helped fill the hole in Miami’s outfield and his $11MM salary would’ve helped the Giants offset a small portion of Stanton’s enormous contract.  The Giants continue to be linked to the Marlins in talks for Christian Yelich and Marcell Ozuna, though Span wouldn’t be part of those potential trades given the far different salary parameters involved.  It is fair to wonder whether Span will be wearing a different uniform in 2018, given how the Giants are looking to thoroughly upgrade their outfield both offensively and defensively.  Also in the piece, Giants GM Bobby Evans said that teams have been asking about San Francisco’s top prospects and younger players, including right-hander Chris Stratton.
  • Giants prospect Heliot Ramos is being asked about in almost every trade proposal, The Athletic’s Andrew Baggarly writes.  Ramos, 17 ,was the 19th overall pick of the 2017 amateur draft and he has already turned a lot of heads in his brief pro career.
  • Also from Baggarly, Bobby Evans said that teams have approached the Giants about trades that would see the Giants send a large-salaried player (and some prospects) elsewhere in what would essentially be a case of the other club buying minor league talent.  Evans said he isn’t considering those types of deals at this time, though Baggarly also writes that the Giants may be increasingly keen on getting under the luxury tax threshold this winter in order to position themselves for larger spending in the future.
  • The Rangers are one of the teams known to have contacted the Tigers about Michael Fulmer, though Anthony Fenech of the Detroit Fress Press reports that the two sides haven’t gotten very far in negotiations.  Fulmer’s ability and years of team control make him an attractive target for any club, especially the pitching-needy Rangers, though the Tigers have naturally put a huge asking price on their young righty.
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44 Comments

  1. JoeyPankake

    7 years ago

    Finally some Giants news that makes sense. Punt on this season, get under the tax, and go big next offseason. Nobody they could realistically sign or trade for would make them competitive in that division this year anyway.

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    • pustule bosey

      7 years ago

      yeah and they REALLY ought not to move ramos, the focus needs to be on building the farm and not depleting it, if it means another stinker season so be it, if they can keep under the cap keep what value they have in the system and spend next year after the cap resets and the pence and span contracts fall off (unless they can be moved) there is a possibility of rebuilding without blowing it up or falling apart in the next few years.

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    • Dodgethis

      7 years ago

      Funny, people said the exact same thing in the 2009 off season. The giants don’t fit the cookie cutter mold, never have and never will. They always field a competitive team, and if the team isn’t competitive they shake it up for next year. This new take 3 years to sell veterans and stockpile prospects rebuild method isn’t how good teams are built, and only 3-4 clubs have had an ounce of success with the strategy, yet sure enough it seems everyone on blogs and comments is preaching for it. It’s rather annoying.

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      • cxcx

        7 years ago

        People flock to the latest thing that has been successful, that’s how fads work.

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  2. Cubsfan0331

    7 years ago

    Don’t really think anyone would give up much at all for Montgomery, but could be a good move to make.

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    • lowtalker1

      7 years ago

      Montgomery is good with 4 years of control but I like hand better

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    • CubsRebsSaints

      7 years ago

      He can start and long relief. He was the guy on the mound when Chi won the WS. Him and Grimm or Strop(very different values in the latter two arms), to NYM or 3 team trade to MIA for Castro and trade Happ or Russell

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  3. mattcubs

    7 years ago

    Montgomery has a very important role on this team. Hopefully he doesn’t demand a trade or something of that sort.

    I suppose he could always potentially be included in a trade for another young controllable starting pitcher? He is controllable for 4 more years and posted a 4.15 ERA as a starter through 14 starts.

    Not sure what he is worth, but I have to assume he would bring a decent return, though he truly may be more valuable out of the bullpen.

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      If he demands one give it to him, he’s not a starting pitcher in my eyes. Especially on a team that is trying to contend

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    • bradthebluefish

      7 years ago

      Could be a good pitcher for the Orioles.

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      • aceofrainbows

        7 years ago

        That isn’t a compliment

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  4. brucebochyisthemarlboroman

    7 years ago

    I can’t see the Phils making trade with the Mets for Cesar.

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  5. ericl

    7 years ago

    I don’t see the Phillies trading Hernandez to the Mets. I don’t think the Mets can meet the asking price & I doubt that they want to trade him within the division. I can see the Phillies hanging on to Hernandez and trading Galvis instead. Kingery could use some more time at AAA and Crawford is ready to take over at short for Galvis.

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  6. cubbieblue

    7 years ago

    I actually wondered about throwing Montgomery name out there with all the RP interest, might get a better return than you think

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    • simschifan

      7 years ago

      Happ MONTGOMERY and Caratini for Chris Archer.

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      • adshadbolt

        7 years ago

        Add Albertos and that’s a pretty good deal

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        • Varangian

          7 years ago

          Only if Tampa adds Colome

          Reply
  7. CubsRebsSaints

    7 years ago

    And why are the Cubs Spending 70 million on Chatwood, Morrow, and Smyly?!? The latter can’t even pitch in 2018! (For the record, I like these signings; mostly Morrow and to a lesser degree Smyly).
    But Wade Davis just almost was perfect in saves for you, almost automatic! And you’ve done these moves first? Same with Duensing. I bet those guys fee a little bit spurned, and I’d now be surprised to see them sign in Chicago. I hope they sign both and McGee, Cobb, and Reed or Swarzak. Load up! Quit being cheap! Be smart! Not cheap! TV deal coming in 2019 and the Cubs should have big boy money after that.

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    • JKB 2

      7 years ago

      What an ignorant comment. The Cubs should do nothing at all and wait on Davis before making any moves? Idiot

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    • Cubsfan0331

      7 years ago

      Smyly was picked up super cheap although he can’t pitch this season. Sort of how Eovaldi’s rehabilitation. Cubs plan to get him back to health their way and then pay him 7MM in 2019. Low risk, high reward.

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      • wellhitball

        7 years ago

        They’re paying Smyly at least $10 million over two years with the opportunity to earn another 7 million in incentives. That isn’t that cheap for a guy coming off TJ who has had limited success and doesn’t have a long history of starting, especially when he’s expected to miss 3/4 of the 2018 season.

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    • Mikel Grady

      7 years ago

      Davis will be coveted by many teams. If you lose out in a bidding war wether it be money years or both you have To have a backup plan. Rumors of 4-5 years may be too much. That would make him 35-36 in last season . If you miss out on big 4 did you want to go into season with Montgomery as #4 and butler #5?

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    • tim815

      7 years ago

      It’s a salary-cap league, now.

      Go ahead. I’m used to the downvotes. I’m right.

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    • wrigleywannabe

      7 years ago

      WHy on God’s green earth should they cater to Davis. If he wants to come back, shouldn’t it be on him to only negotiate with Chicago?

      Gee, maybe they spoke with their agents and were given a price they won’t pay or were told they want to truly test the market.

      The tax level is the same regardless of the tv deal.

      You whine about them spending 70 mil and then say they are being cheap.

      Pick a side.

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    • cubsfan25

      7 years ago

      Yet Cubs fans everywhere were always biting their nails in the 9th inning because Davis was letting teams get back into by giving up walks or HRs, I’d much rather have Morrow

      Reply
  8. WalkersDayOff

    7 years ago

    Giants finally get a decent looking prospect in Heliot Ramos and now teams want to take him away. They have nothing else that can land Ozuna or Yelich if he isn’t in the deal. Man they are in a tough spot.

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    • Jean Matrac

      7 years ago

      So you didn’t read article huh? Or did you just miss the part about other teams asking about the Giants top prospects (assume Shaw, Beede, Arroyo), as well as Chris Stratton? Clearly they have pieces other than Ramos to trade.

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      • floridapinstripes

        7 years ago

        Even if they trade all 4 of those that is probably isn’t enough to get Ozuna.
        Arroyo is barely a top 100 player now if that.
        You need a top tier prospect to headline a deal for him and right now the closest thing they have to that is Ramos.

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        • Chris Sale Amateur Tailor

          7 years ago

          those 4 could probably get Ozuna but it would be close. even with Ramos they don’t have enough to get Yelish

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      • WalkersDayOff

        7 years ago

        Again if your talking elite talent like Ozuna and Yelich those pieces won’t get it done. If your telling me a low top 100 prospect and 2 fringe top 100 prospects can land yelich or ozuna well that just wrong.

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      • norcalblue

        7 years ago

        That’s according to Henry Schulman who is as close to being a paid fan masquerading as a journalist as you will ever see. Ramos the ONLY asset in Giants farm system that they can use to acquire top talent.

        Giant fans here calling for a rebuild are correct.

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  9. beard

    7 years ago

    Montgomery is good enough to be a 5th starter in a rotation with a strong 1-2-3. Just bump him to the bullpen for the post season where he is a really strong asset. I bet several contenders would be interested.

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    • bradthebluefish

      7 years ago

      Right!?

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    • tim815

      7 years ago

      “interested” in claiming him off of waivers?

      Or “interested” in trading something the Cubs would want more than Montgomery?

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      • beard

        7 years ago

        Trading

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  10. DanielADavis

    7 years ago

    The Cubs should try to get back Travis Wood to be the swingman if Montgomery wants to go elsewhere.

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    • tim815

      7 years ago

      You mean the guy still due $8 million at least?

      Naaaaah. Pass.

      Reply
  11. Norris426

    7 years ago

    Last time I checked the Stanton trade to the Yanks was made official. Stop speculating on who might have been included in a Stanton trade to the Giants…..I’ve seen 4 different versions/packages of what it might have been…Don’t need to divide a locker room that already lacks talent in a lot of areas…Its honestly pointless…Surprised the Dodger fan Jeffrey Todd didn’t write this piece. He would still pick Kershaw in a pivotal game 7 over any other starter…What a joke….

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    • aff10

      7 years ago

      Yeah, MLBTR should totally not report news on potential trade packages out of fear that it may divide a clubhouse lol

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      • Norris426

        7 years ago

        Good point…I could report/speculate your mom being good in bed, when its neighborhood common knowledge that she’s an easy lay who lies there like a dead fish..

        No tangible information to report on if it didn’t take place…Kick rocks…

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  12. Logjammer D"Baggagecling

    7 years ago

    They traded away two decent prospects. They shouldn’t ask for less than 2.top 20 prospects back

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  13. Stuemke17

    7 years ago

    Why the heck does Montgomery want to be a starter in the current baseball climate? Relievers are the hot commodity this offseason and their potential payday has been climbing year after year. He’s -clearly- more comfortable and efficient as a reliever with occasional spot starts than he is as a full-time starter. The only reason I can think of is the Andrew Miller effect. More and more relievers are being leaned on to throw consecutive innings on consecutive days and I suppose I could see how that could be much more stressful than being a 5th starter. But still, I think he’s proven that he’d make more money and have a more impressive career by continuing to do what he’s been doing.

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  14. Djones246890

    7 years ago

    Montgomery is not a starter. He’s most effective in the bullpen, and that’s where he excels.

    Also, this isn’t the time to be pulling. This garbage. You’re on (arguably) the best-run franchise in all of sports.

    Suck it up and stay with a winning team.

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    • wrigleywannabe

      7 years ago

      And it is not the time for you to assume he is puling garabge.

      It is a report from unnamed sources that are supposedly close to him.

      Please….When he or someone speaking officially for him, says this, then we can talk.

      Reply

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