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East Notes: Yelich, Realmuto, Marlins, Machado, Sox, Orioles

By Connor Byrne and Jeff Todd | January 2, 2018 at 4:36pm CDT

The Marlins continue to discuss center fielder Christian Yelich and catcher J.T. Realmuto with other clubs, but there’s “nothing imminent” on the trade front, Mark Feinsand of MLB.com hears (Twitter link). Although the Marlins are in teardown mode, it would reportedly take a “huge overpay” for them to deal either Yelich or Realmuto, their two most valuable assets. The 26-year-old Yelich is controllable through 2022 on one of the majors’ most appealing contracts, while Realmuto (27 in March) is set to play his first of three arbitration-eligible campaigns in 2018. Kyle Downing of MLBTR examined Yelich, Realmuto and the rest of Miami’s trade candidates over the weekend.

More on the Fish and a couple other East Coast franchises:

  • Miami traded both Giancarlo Stanton and Marcell Ozuna earlier this offseason, thus subtracting a pair of in-their-prime sluggers who combined for a whopping 96 home runs in 2017. Now, with those two in other uniforms, the organization is “looking for guys who can provide power in the middle of the lineup,” vice president of player development and scouting Gary Denbo told Joe Frisaro of MLB.com. Unsurprisingly, though, the Marlins aren’t competing for high-level free agents who would serve as short-term upgrades, per Frisaro, who writes that “their vision is more long range.”
  • With the Red Sox still interested in acquiring Orioles third baseman/shortstop Manny Machado, Ian Browne of MLB.com weighs in on a potential trade between the AL East rivals. Browne senses that the Red Sox don’t want to trade either shortstop Xander Bogaerts or center fielder Jackie Bradley Jr. this offseason, but he concedes that it wouldn’t be a surprise to see the former head to Baltimore as part of a Machado deal. The Red Sox would be losing two years of Bogaerts for a single season of control over Machado. As such, if Boston acquires Machado, it would make an aggressive push to re-up the superstar in order to prevent him from leaving as a free agent next winter, Browne adds.
  • The Orioles still face a difficult path, all the more so given that the team will evidently be paying Zach Britton a full arbitration salary for what might be little more than a half season of work. Jon Meoli of the Baltimore Sun writes that, while the rotation market still hasn’t moved much, some of the arms from Baltimore’s potential target demographic are among those that have found new teams. Meanwhile, Steve Melewski of MASNsports.com considers the question of whether the team will look to make second baseman Jonathan Schoop a part of a new long-term core — and, if so, how much it might cost to get something done.
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  1. camdenyards46

    7 years ago

    Please extend schoop orioles

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    • tonypro7

      7 years ago

      YES!!!! Build the defense and offense around him.

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  2. Ken M.

    7 years ago

    2 years of Bogaerts do not equal 1 year of Machado.

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      7 years ago

      Nor does nothing at all equal one year of Machado. I like olive loaf.

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      • Ken M.

        7 years ago

        “I like olive loaf.”

        Savage.

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      • pinballwizard1969

        7 years ago

        There will be no shortage of teams that would go for Machado if all it took was a defensively challenged type like Bogaerts (-11 DRS) defensive runs saved that had a terrible 2017 season offensively and is only under team control for 2 years.

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        • Bruin1012

          7 years ago

          Yup I’m sure Bogey’s wrist injury had nothing to do with his struggles last year Still managed to be a 3 WAR shortstop coming off back to back almost 5 WAR the two previous years. You Yankee fans crack me up on Bogey there are very few teams who wouldn’t want Bogey.

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        • bronxbombers

          7 years ago

          We could probably name at least 15 SS teams would take over bogaerts

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        • cxcx

          7 years ago

          Bogey.

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        • pinballwizard1969

          7 years ago

          I see as a Red Sox fan you haven’t lost the knack for coming up with excuses. What did the so called wrist injury have to do with his terrible defense.: -11 DRS in 2017, -10 DRS in 2016, -1 DRS in 2015 and -9 DRS in 2014. He’s been terrible defensively since day one.
          BTW I see you cherry picked FanGraphs War number had you chosen to show bWAR (Baseball-Reference) including Bogaerts 2017 bWAR of 2.2 his career war (2014-2017) 4 years is just 11.1

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        • 22222pete

          7 years ago

          Has a career 84 OPS+ away from Fenway.

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        • 22222pete

          7 years ago

          Onviously he would just be one piece. They still need to field a team in 2018

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          Here’s a slap shot Bruin. The Yankees wouldn’t touch him. Care to debate Bogey vs. DD?

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        • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

          7 years ago

          I’m a Sox fan…. DD had a GREAT year. Nice young player. Wish we had him. Nice segue from Jeter.

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        • Bruin1012

          7 years ago

          Hey pin I just used Fangraphs because that is the one most people use on this sight. Nice use of cherry picking yourself. Xander has averaged 3.5 WAR over the last 3 years. The fourth year you are using to sway his stats was his rookie year and we all know he struggled that year. So way to go way to way to cherry pick yourself. Xander is a very good player period.

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        • Bruin1012

          7 years ago

          Sure DD had a very good year last year but the two years before Xander was easily more valuable and better. So yea if you want to base on one year then sure DD was better but over the last the last three no matter how you look at it Xander was better.

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        • dynamite drop in monty

          7 years ago

          Y’all hatin on olive loaf

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        • Bruin1012

          7 years ago

          Please give me the list I would love to see it.

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        • brucewayne

          7 years ago

          Name them SS!

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      • Cashford64

        7 years ago

        Machado would immediately improve several lineups, and any team who is seriously contending for a World Series in 2018 would find incredible value in having him, even if it was just one season.

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        • Cardinals17

          7 years ago

          That’s the same thing I’ve been saying about Machado. Even if they trade numerous prospects for him for a year, they are as the word says….a Prospect. Machado is established already. Machado and Ozuna back to back for one year??? I’d do that and make every effort to resign him in free agency in 2018.

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    • PeterDipersio

      7 years ago

      I believe the Red Sox young core is the stability of the future! We don’t need manny machado

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  3. alexgordonbeckham

    7 years ago

    What would it take from Boston to get Machado? Would be crazy if they landed Machado and JDM.

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    • kbarr888

      7 years ago

      Baltimore is asking for……..

      “Two Young, MLB Ready Pitchers with several years of team control……..for starters……”

      Cardinals have both the Prospects to acquire Machado, and the need. He probably won’t re-sign there long term, but they have the money…… you never know.

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      • Cardinals17

        7 years ago

        Agreed! At least one year of bliss with Machado. With all of the standing ovations he will get during the season, maybe it’d woo him over in 2019. The Cardinals, even though the deck is stacked against them, will never know unless they get Machado and see what happens!!!

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    • mikeyank55

      7 years ago

      Sorry Alex…there’s no farm system any longer. So Machado is a figment of your imagination. As far as JD, though an offensive force he will kill them in the field. Typical Red Sox team with redundant 1B/DH options that will be overexposed when they are forced to play positions.

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      • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

        7 years ago

        The Orioles aren’t getting what they’re asking for. He would have been traded by now. But you’re probably right. All we can do is hope as Sox fans LOL.

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  4. Padres2019ha

    7 years ago

    Renfroe, Spangenberg, Quantrill, Laurer for Yelich. Who says no?

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    • dirtydan

      7 years ago

      Me

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    • Friarfaithful117

      7 years ago

      I think its going to be more than that to land Yelich. I would love it if we did though. Especially if we do sign Hosmer we would have a core.

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      • Padres2019ha

        7 years ago

        Add Naylor and have them include Barraclough

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        • kbarr888

          7 years ago

          Naylor CAME from the Marlins……and he’s not worth Barraclough’s spikes.

          Kyle is Miami’s version of Brad Hand (who also came from the Marlins)….and will require a similar return if traded.

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        • Padres2019ha

          7 years ago

          Hand was 1.7 war to the claws .06 Not even close

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        • kbarr888

          7 years ago

          We’ll see what happens when The Claw is closing in ’18. His value will rise (that was my original point)

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        • jrwhite21

          7 years ago

          Using war for relievers really isn’t a fair indicator of how good they are

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        • Padres2019ha

          7 years ago

          he’s good but inconsistent, walks too many, and hasn’t been proven in high leverage situations

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      • sandman12

        7 years ago

        Tatis Jr. and Chris Paddack and another pitcher.

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        • Injediwetrust

          7 years ago

          Being a SD fan, it is robbing Peter to give to Paul with Tatis or Gore. A Quantrill, Morejon, Renfroe and say Austin Allen would be a strong offer. If you substitute in say Lauer or Lucchesi (closer to ML) for Morejon throw in a further away higher risk/higher reward like Almanzar. or Ona..

          Tatis, Gore, or Urias inclusion would just not be worth it as the Padres arent Yelich away from a contender.

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          No.

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    • socalbum

      7 years ago

      Margot, Tatis, and Quantrill

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      • kbarr888

        7 years ago

        You’re getting closer, I’d guess.

        Tatis, Gore, Quantrill, and Margot could create interest.

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        • #Fantasygeekland

          7 years ago

          Overpay imo Yelich is under control for 5 years and how many of those will SD be in contention? 2 *maybe* 3. Giving up 3 top 50 prospects and Margot for that makes no sense. Especially for the Padres

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        • dirtydan

          7 years ago

          I don’t think there’s any chance that they’d trade tatis. Take him out and that might do it

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        • Padres2019ha

          7 years ago

          Hahaha you’re trippin’. Margot(top 30 prospect last year) Gore AND Tatis and Quantrill could create interest?? riiight

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        • kbarr888

          7 years ago

          Baseballnerdom…….Padres might say no, but the Marlins aren’t going to lower the price because “SD isn’t going to contend for 3 more years”. If Yelich likes playing there, and he thinks you’re headed in the right direction, he’ll probably sign an extension.

          Good player, good teammate, solid character. Speed & power with the ability to leadoff if you need him to (you don’t).

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        • kbarr888

          7 years ago

          Padres2019ha…………..

          The article CLEARLY states that it’s going to take an overpay to get either of them. The package that I suggested qualifies as an overpay…..Right?

          I’m not suggesting that “he’s worth that”…….just that it might take a package like that to get him.

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        • marlins17

          7 years ago

          Tatis, Gore, Laurer or Espinoza, and Cordero.

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        • Friarfaithful117

          7 years ago

          That is too much of an overpay. Tatis and Gore are pretty much off limits. Margot is already on the ML club and we are looking to add to the core not take away. The offer that I think would be reasonable is Baez, Espinoza, Renfroe, and one more B prospect. I know you have to give talent to get talent but any more than that is mortgaging too much on one player. Baez is a legit 2 if not a 1 albeit with risk. Espinoza is injured (TJ) but would be the Marlins number 1 prospect right now. Renfroe has power and is still young. May never live up to his potential but you take those risks in a trade.

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        • Padres2019ha

          7 years ago

          I don’t like giving up Baez or Espinoza, ha. Too much upside. Spangenberg and Renfroe would both most likely be in the scenario. So it comes down to the other 2 and I would think Baez or Espinoza would be included but not both.

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        • sandman12

          7 years ago

          Yelich would instantly become the team’s best player … and you have prospects that are untouchable?

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        • Padres2019ha

          7 years ago

          Yes, we do. Especially during a rebuild. If we were the Yankees, and competing every year, and we’re a player away, we wouldn’t have untouchable prospects. Yelich was from what I saw the 27th best player in the league last year. All Star for sure, but not a superstar

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        • Injediwetrust

          7 years ago

          Its pick your poison but they would for sure need to give up alot. im a fan and by no means a scout. Tatis, Urias, Lucchesi, even Laurer show the most signs of helping sooner than later. So it becomes offer your top pitching prospect, take your choice of Morejon, Espinoza, or Baez and fill in a couple more names.

          From a Padres standpoint if you are going to pull off the ML roster its going to be OF, 3B, and 2B. Is it Renfroe and Spangenberg or Solarte. Maybe they bank on Corderos big fall and who could very well be a Yelich type.

          We havent even gotten into players further away that eventually be like a Tatis in Almanzar, Ruiz, Arias or Ona. In my mind parting with one or two of these players to minimize losing players that are closer to contributing to the Padres success is the way. They arent just one player away..

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        • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

          7 years ago

          No.
          Go away.
          Annoying.

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      • #Fantasygeekland

        7 years ago

        Convincing offer if the padres add in something else

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      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        7 years ago

        How bout no?

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    • #Fantasygeekland

      7 years ago

      Marlins, they can do better

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      • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

        7 years ago

        I’d be hesitant to trade with the Marlins anyway. They’re just going to trade us more injured pitchers then go crying to MLB about OUR medicals.

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    • Padres2019ha

      7 years ago

      Tatis will be a top 5-10 prospect, Gore a top 15-20 and we won’t have to give up them just because they are our best. Nor would we. Renfroe was a top 50 last year, Spang, a former 1st rounder who played really well 2nd half of last year and is young and can play many positions, Laurer may have passed Quantrill in rankings, and Quantrill was a top 8 pick a couple years ago w pedigree who was also a top 50-75 player. That’s a pretty decent haul. I know Naylor came from The Marlins, but it doesn’t mean anything w a new regime…you could argue they really like him since they drafted him

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      • Mjm117

        7 years ago

        How could you argue that the Fish “really like” Naylor when Fish traded him by the previous regime and the new regime I still being ran by the same person who gave up on Naylor in the first place?

        If Padres want Yelich, Fish would understandable want Tatis and one of their top SP prospects like Quantril or Morejon AT LEAST. Or Gore as the centerpiece.

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        • hojostache

          7 years ago

          You can “really like” a player and still trade them bc the right deal presented itself.

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    • AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

      7 years ago

      I say no

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  5. pmhockey35

    7 years ago

    One name I haven’t heard much on is Kyle Barraclough. Could he become part of the fire sale?

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    • kbarr888

      7 years ago

      He’s probably not a candidate to be moved. He is still under Team Control in ’18, then has 3 years of arbitration to go through.

      He’s very possibly sliding into the closer role in ’18. That makes him More Valuable next winter or July 2019

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    • sandman12

      7 years ago

      He makes the minimum and he and Steckenrider anchor the pen.

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  6. floridapinstripes

    7 years ago

    It makes zero sense for Baltimore to ask for Boegarts or JBJ when they won’t contend in the near future.
    Groome and Chavis are not enough by themselves.
    The only way Boston gets Machado is if Devers or Benintendi headlines the deal.
    Please don’t yell at me saying “There is no way they trade them!”
    Tell me something I don’t know. Hence there is no way they get Machado.

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      7 years ago

      This is a good post.

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    • sandman12

      7 years ago

      One year of Machado is not worth a controllable young star – especially with Manny coming off a crap year.

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      • floridapinstripes

        7 years ago

        Good luck creating a good enough package without him considering they want to MLB ready starters and Boston doesn’t have any of quality besides E Rod

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    • slider32

      7 years ago

      Does anyone really think that the O’s are going to trade Machado to any team in the East?

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    • chevyheston

      7 years ago

      This is just PR on Boston’s part to make fans think they’re trying to counter the Yanks acquisition of Stanton. They’re not getting Machado. And even if they did, it would be a one-year rental before he leaves to join the Yankees as a free agent..

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    • #Fantasygeekland

      7 years ago

      I agree, and it is even more unlikely considering they are in the same division

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    • gorav114

      7 years ago

      They have lined up for deals in the past so sure could again. I agree with u, the question is if Boston is willing to give up that much. Most likely not

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    • jdgoat

      7 years ago

      Rodriguez could be the headliner

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      • mehs

        7 years ago

        E-Rod a league average pitcher coming off of knee surgery, who was worth 2 months of Andrew Miller in 2014, now with 3 years less of control you think is worth a year of Machado.

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        • jdgoat

          7 years ago

          Rodriguez plus prospects obviously. Machsdo didn’t exactly set the world on fire either though

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  7. pinballwizard1969

    7 years ago

    Going to take a hell of lot more than Bogaerts for the O’s/Peter Angelos to trade Machado to the Red Sox even with Machado becoming a FA after the 2018 season.

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  8. Austin0723

    7 years ago

    Doesn’t Manny like hate us with a passion?

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    • Mark 21

      7 years ago

      Yes.

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    • whosyourmomma

      7 years ago

      Yeah, Machado was either drilled or thrown at by several BoSox pitchers. IMO every BoSox “rumor” is to somehow try and drive down the price for JDM.

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    • badco44

      7 years ago

      It’s all totally bubkus! O’s want too much for one year…

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  9. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    7 years ago

    Xander Bogaerts or center fielder Jackie Bradley Jr.
    Can you even flip these two?
    I have bee saying (typing) it ad nausea, I want Machado to go to the Diamondbacks because he is an excellent fit for them and should make that infield one of the best in the entire league. I want back Zack Greinke because if he does well, you can flip him and a prospect or two. That would be a fair and righteous trade

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    • Travis’ Wood

      7 years ago

      You’re an Orioles fan and you want to trade Machado for Zach Greinke? Is this a joke? You have to be joking. Greinke has negative trade value lol

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      • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

        7 years ago

        *shrugs*
        Also, if the O’s are send money, it would help make the deal even more fair.

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      • Hiro

        7 years ago

        Not to mention the financials as well. Flip Greinke for a prospects?

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        • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

          7 years ago

          Yes for prospects.
          If Greinke pitches well and the O’s are out of contention, I think he would fetch some prospects
          Also, if anything he gives the O’s a bonafide opening day starter.
          Something of which they have not had for a long time

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        • tbonenats

          7 years ago

          I don’t see how Greinke could net legit prospects. I mean we just saw the MVP get traded for nothing and the Marlins had to kick in $30m to get nothing. Greinke would net nothing and the O’s would have to eat money to flip him.

          Manny makes the most sense on the Yankees, Cards or BoSox imo. Don’t see any of them yielding what the O’s want so will come down to O’s either keeping him or shifting asking price

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        • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

          7 years ago

          Just say No to anyone in the AL East

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    • kbarr888

      7 years ago

      Lefty…….What have you been smoking? Whatever it is…..please ask your dealer for something fresher….. LOL…..jk…..

      Cardinals have much better prospects to offer……guys that are under team control, and could turn out to be excellent pitchers. Greinke? WAY too much money on his contract.

      D-Backs would LEAP at that deal……..(Machado plus cash for Greinke and his mammouth contract….LMAO). The Commish might even Veto it…..

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      • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

        7 years ago

        I don’t want to help the Cardinals or the Cubs
        If the O’s get Zack G, Money, and one or two prospects (depending on the quality) I would be all for it

        Also Rob Manfred would do nothing, he could not stand up to a strong wind

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        • kbarr888

          7 years ago

          I appreciate your zealous admiration for your O’s…..but they’ll take “the best package” that they get offered, especially if it’s an NL team.

          Manfred is a complete Putz. He wouldn’t do squat…..but he should…..lol

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        • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

          7 years ago

          LOL well as long as it’s good and Manfred is a Harvard Grad, who has no clue

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  10. slider32

    7 years ago

    Yelich is a younger and better player than any of the free agents available. Over the last 4 years he has a WAR of 15.9 which is 27th. Martinez had a WAR of 14.6 and Hosmer had a whopping 7.5. This is why teams are trading for players and not signing free agents.

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    • Travis’ Wood

      7 years ago

      Not to mention Yelich is much younger

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      • bigdaddyt

        7 years ago

        Incase you didn’t know free agents tend to be older players… Yelich is younger

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    • sandman12

      7 years ago

      You are making a good case for Atlanta to give Miami Gohara, Wentz and Fried.

      The article leaves out an important Miami trade piece: Straily. Lots of talk about G. Cole is circulating, but no one seems to realize that Straily was the more dependable pitcher the last two years … and cheaper. Miami should send him to Philly for Nick the Stick Williams as a means of adding some pop to the lineup. Splitting the season between AAA and the majors last year, he hit 27 HR and had 99 RBI. The Santana signing renders him available.

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    • kbarr888

      7 years ago

      Slider…..another reason Teams aren’t flocking to FA’s….

      It would be naive to not consider the fact that “Next Winter’s FA List” could be a major factor here. That’s probably why Teams are balking at the current FA players and their ridiculous asking prices. Next winter won’t be “cheaper” by any means, but the players are of a much different caliber.

      Teams could certainly be “waiting to spend”….and saving their pennies so they can enter the bidding Frenzy for any one of the following players……….

      Harper/Machado/Donaldson/Dozier/LeMahieu/Murphy/Blackmon/McCutchen/Pollock/Bumgarner/Kershaw/Carrasco/Keuchel/Herrera/Kimbrel/Britton

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      • slider32

        7 years ago

        Agreed, the big market teams can’t sign all of these players.

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  11. ddj05

    7 years ago

    I don’t want Machado in Boston, as a Red Sox fan.

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    • Cam

      7 years ago

      So you’re against upgrading?

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      • Ichiro51

        7 years ago

        For one year, doesn’t make any sense for any team to rent him. it’s not upgrade and downgrade of your overall depth. This is a Yankee fan saying that. Only if a negotiation is in place and agreed upon. No reason giving up so many prospect for 1 season of Machado.

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        • tbonenats

          7 years ago

          Banners fly forever man. Machado doesn’t guarantee anything but if you’re close and have prospect depth to trade from I think he’s totally worth a team trading for. It obviously doesn’t make sense for Phillies or Padres to trade for him but Yankees, Sox, Cards, Cubs make a lot of sense. But I don’t think the O’s asking price is realistic, no contending team has two controllable SPs that are in or close to the show just sitting around ready to be traded for a rental. If O’s adjust asking price then they’ll find a taker for sure.

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  12. sandman12

    7 years ago

    Question: Did anyone even hear of offers for Ozuna from anyone other than the Cardinals? He would have been a great pickup for Phillies instead of Santana. (Cheaper, better, and would have kept Hoskins at 1B where he belongs. Somebody had to be willing to give more than SL did.

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    • matthew102402

      7 years ago

      I really think that if some time was willing to give more than St. Louis, they would have taken it…

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      • sandman12

        7 years ago

        What you or I perceive as more may be very different from Michael Hill’s perspective. He traded Luis Castillo for Dan Straily.

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    • stl_cards16 2

      7 years ago

      I don’t think trading prospects for 2 years of Ozuna makes much sense. They have plenty of cash and that’s all Santana cost. Next year is when the Phillies will make a big splash.

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  13. Houston We Have A Solution

    7 years ago

    Cardinals should just pony up Kelly, Bader, Hudson, Gomber, and Hicks.

    Yelich, Pham, and Ozuna gives the cardinals probably the best defensive outfield in the league along with two bats to improve their lineup. They trade kelly but keep flaherty weaver and reyes

    Meanwhile Marlins get a catcher to replace realmuto (kelly) who is blocked by molina, bader for the outfield, and 3 pitching prospects in hudson, hicks, gomber.

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    • sandman12

      7 years ago

      Helluva a deal. Marlins got half the guys SL didn’t have any use for in the Ozuna trade … now they get the rest!

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    • kbarr888

      7 years ago

      It’s not a bad idea….but what do the Cardinals do with Dexter Fowler and his no-trade clause?…………….Oooops!
      The Marlins won’t take him because of the contract.

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      • Houston We Have A Solution

        7 years ago

        Either trade Pham or trade Fowler to a contender. I mean Cardinals would have to eat money on the Fowler deal, but I am sure the Indians, Rockies, Twins would have interest in Fowler with the Giants likely having most interest in Pham

        I am sure the giants and cardinals can help each other with the giants getting pham and cardinals getting belt with prospects being exchanged.

        What about Giants get Pham, Gyorko to play 1st, legit prospects to round out the deal.

        Cardinals Belt and another prospect like Beede.

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        • kbarr888

          7 years ago

          Can’t “just trade Fowler”…….he has to waive his NTC. He’s not going to do that to go to the Giants.

          Besides………I’d much rather have Pham and Gyorko than Belt and Beede. Pham is their best OF………and Cards already have a TON of almost MLB ready pitching………..many as good as Beede (or maybe better). Cards have OF Bats in the wings, plus a few SS’s.

          If you want Pham+++……You’ll have to be willing to trade Bumgarner…….and we know THAT ain’t happening….

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        • Houston We Have A Solution

          7 years ago

          Pham had a great year that hell most likely never replicate.

          .368 BABIP isnt sustainable and the power output will regress.

          Pham isnt worth Bumgardner.

          Pham Gyorko and someone like fernandez is worth belt, beede, and maybe heliot ramos.

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  14. jogo

    7 years ago

    Boston wants Machado but doesn’t want to trade Xander or JBJ. What a joke. I wouldn’t trade Machado for both of them. They both slipped at the plate last year. And Boston doesn’t have any prospects worth a crap. D. Dom. has already traded away all the decent prospects. Somebody is dreaming on these scenarios.

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    • Cam

      7 years ago

      Machado slipped at the plate last year too.

      Just saying.

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      • Cardinals17

        7 years ago

        Agreed….He slipped at the plate last year. But look how much better he was than Carpenter. Carpenter is a mediocre player at best. It blows my mind why the Cardinals keep moving him to a different position each year and removing other Cardinals of either better defensively on even talent overall, just to keep Carpenter. He’d make a great utility man!!! But I hope he doesn’t start. Numbers are declining each year. He’s definitely not the contact hitter that made him an all-star.

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  15. wrigleywannabe

    7 years ago

    Baez, Almora, Montgomery and their choice of minor league pitchers for Yelich

    The Marlins get their starting second basemen, centerfielder and a starting pitcher, as well as a prospect.

    It doesn’t hurt to ask.

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  16. sandman12

    7 years ago

    Chicago wouldn’t give even Baez alone.

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    • Padres2019ha

      7 years ago

      You’re warped dude

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  17. Ichiro51

    7 years ago

    If the rumor is correct that Orioles are looking for two pitchers who are ready to be in the majors with team control, they are not going to get it. Machado is only on for a year and pitchers are way more valuable than hitters right now. I know the major upgrade to a lineup and to the field Machado has. However, two MLB ready starting pitchers!?!?! The inning they could eat up and you could get really creative with two young starting pitchers, especially with team control.

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    • Draven_X_23

      7 years ago

      Some teams will give up a lot if they want to make it to the World Series. My Os gave up E.Rodriguez for 3 months of Andrew Miller. I know its not unheard of to see overpays at the deadline.

      Manny is great on both sides of the ball. He helped turn the Orioles into contenders the last 5 Years. Any team that wants to contend trade out their 3B or SS for him and it will be an upgrade.

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      • Draven_X_23

        7 years ago

        Oh and pitching is such a volatile product. So many prospects turn to crap. Manny is proven.

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      • tbonenats

        7 years ago

        I agree Manny is valuable but for a contending team trading two young MLB ready SPs is hard to do. I mean take the three teams that make the most sense.

        The Yankees would have to give up their top two pitching prospects, or a current starter and one of their the prospects. They’d then have to spend money to sign a SP and then try to sign Manny to an extension.

        The BoSox don’t even have two SPs that meet that criteria. They have 1, but he’s hard to trade due to the awful Price signing. Cheap pitching is valuable to them right now.

        The Cards make a lot of sense for a rental since they are unlikely to be able to ink Manny to an extension or as a FA. However, they probably don’t want to part with two of their 3 stud pitchers that meet the O’s price.

        If the O’s were smart they would change their ask to true prospects or bats and use their other trade chips for arms.

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  18. GOP Lizards

    7 years ago

    Maybe LA can dump Kemp on the Marlins if they eat some of the salary?

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    • Ichiro51

      7 years ago

      Why would the Marlins want to eat any part of his salary. They just went on a salary dump and now they are just looking for prospect.

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    • Mjm117

      7 years ago

      Yeah makes sense. Or take on all of his contract and send Dodgers Yelich.

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  19. Draven_X_23

    7 years ago

    Orioles Fan here. Blow up the team. Trade Jones, Machado, Schoop, Brach, and anyone else of value that can help the teams future especially in the pitching. I know Davis and Trumbo are not in demand.

    Extend Bundy and Gausman.

    Sisco, Beckham, Mancini, Hayes, Givens, and those 2 pitchers are a solid young start to a team.

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    • Solaris601

      7 years ago

      Couldn’t agree more. BAL shouldn’t even consider extending Schoop until they fill those huge holes in their rotation. The only team with 2 rotation ready SPs who MIGHT be willing to send them to BAL for Machado is CLE (Salazar and Tomlin). Otherwise the O’s could viably trade Machado to AZ for Greinke, then sign Todd Frazier and a 3rd tier SP other than Jimenez, Miley, or Hellickson.

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  20. madmc44

    7 years ago

    If the O’s want to trade Machado–ERod and Xander should be sufficient. If DD and DD can’t come to a mutual move it won’t happen with the R Sox.

    The only way the O’s get Bene, ERod and Xander is for Mancini, Brach/ O’Day and Machado, This is really Bene for Mancini and Bene is a far superior defender and a better base stealer. This proposal should free up $20 M for the O’s to use elsewhere.

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    • rmullig2

      7 years ago

      Maybe if they extended the trade to include Bradley and Jones the O’s might be interested..

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    • fuchholz

      7 years ago

      as a lifelong Boston fan, I have to give respect where its due. Brian Cashman is arguably the best GM in baseball. i cant help but feel like if he were running the BoSox he would have figured out a way to trade and extend Machado, AND sign JDM forming a lethal 3/4 duo in the middle of that lineup for years to come.

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  21. KD17

    7 years ago

    Cashman’s success, like the Yankee front office, has always been over-rated since Steinbrenner took over. Baseball has been fortunate that the huge lop-sided money advantage that NY has had the last 100 years only netted them a championship every 4 years. A business that is 2 to 10 times bigger than it’s competition would out earn it’s competitors at a far greater rate or be considered a failure. The baseball world has been lucky that the Yankees front-office has been inept for years. This century, the Yankees are at best mediocre, winning 1 championship in 17 years yet still spending more money than most. Cashman got a break when a giant of a a player suddenly started making contact with the baseball. He got an over-hyped catcher who for years couldn’t live up to his hype suddenly become a power hitter beyond imagine. Seriously, we give Cashman the credit for these events? It’s time to starting looking at the “training and conditioning staff” in NY and LA Dodgers too. The proliferation of homers by all types of hitters in an organization suggests something like the Athletics in the mid 80s. You don’t have to be Dick Tracy to notice specific teams have had enormous power surges while others haven’t. Will this become the HGH era? How soon will the commissioner be forced by Congress to look into HGH abuse? Launch angle my butt… these guys are juicing just like Sosa. Didi Gregorious, Starlin Castro hitting homers like Pujols as a young man? Get serious. Something is happening beyond changed launch angles in the Yankee and Dodger systems. Chris Taylor? Cody Bellinger? If you aren’t scratching your head, you should be!!

    Let’s not credit Cashman with too much savvy. He’s won next to nothing in 17 years. The best GM is and will continue to be with the Cubs! Theo turned around the two longest losing programs in baseball. No prolific jump in homers in Chicago because it’s a clean program. The Red Sox need to get power and Machado or Donaldson would be great additions because Bogaerts doesn’t appear to have the work ethic or ego to be great. JD Martinez also would be a great add if we can’t convince a team with a tough centerfield to take Bradley off our hands for something of value. Betts and Benintendi may be an extremely small step down from Bradley but Fenway makes that acceptable because LF is not a position that takes great athleticism to play it. JD will be better in left than Devers will be at 3B so lets get him moved to 1B for the long-term, pick up a 3B and LF and a right handed pitcher and go prove that Cashman isn’t the brilliant GM that was suggested. At this point, like many seasons prior, the front-runner may end up a big disappointment especially without Girardi at the helm.

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