Bob Nightengale of USA Today provides an interesting look at the post-playing career of Hall-of-Famer Andre Dawson, the slugging outfielder best remembered for his time with the Cubs and Expos. The Hawk now operates a funeral home with his wife in the Miami area, a surprising turn for a legendary ballplayer. Fans of the former great will certainly want to read the entire piece, which paints a compelling picture of Dawson and his new line of work.
Here’s the latest from the central divisions:
- The Tigers announced that outfielder Leonys Martin is going on the DL, with fellow outfielder Mikie Mahtook taking his place on the active roster. A hamstring strain is the cause of the placement for Martin, who had been off to a solid start in Detroit. Thus far, he has amply justified the team’s $1.75MM investment, turning in a .294/.355/.508 slash in his 138 plate appearances. Though he has not been as effective on the bases as usual, that may just be a short-sample blip for a player who has long been excellent with his legs. And metrics view him as a quality defender in center. That could make Martin a useful trade chip come July if he’s able to get back to health and continue producing.
- Over at Fangraphs, Jeff Sullivan examines the excellent work turned in thus far in 2018 by new Pirates outfielder Corey Dickerson. It really has been a fascinating showing to this point, as Dickerson is not just producing good numbers — a .333/.371/.550 slash — but is doing so while making vast improvements in his contact rate. Bucs fans will certainly want to give a full read to understand why and how the 28-year-old has thus far managed to change his approach and boost his productivity so significantly.
- The summer trade picture is only just starting to take shape, but Manny Machado obviously represents a key component. As MLBTR’s Steve Adams wrote recently, it is hard to imagine the Orioles won’t end up trading him before he reaches free agency at season’s end. And the Cubs are shaping up to be an interesting fit, as Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times writes. Indeed, per the report, the Chicago organization has plans to discuss Machado with the O’s once the trade window begins to open. Of course, that’s hardly surprising and hardly suggests that the Cubs are a favorite. As Wittenmyer notes, the club has a relatively diminished upper-level talent pool to draw from in making a deal; while indications are that ownership is willing to green-light an aggressive approach, it’ll still be tough to pull off a deal. And the Cubs surely won’t be alone in pursuing Machado, who could be seen as a difference-maker for numerous rosters around the game.
I see a trade of Machado and a bullpen arm going to the Cubs for Addison Russell
I’d take that in a heart beat as a cubs fan. I think it will take more than Russell though. Probably a few minor league arms. But cubs don’t have many mlb ready SP. talent in the lower minors
It will take more than Russell. The reason The Cubs are looking is because Russel’s bat isn’t playing at the MLB level. So why would the Orioles take him as a center piece when other teams around the league will surely offer more?
Rental players don’t bring as much as they did in the 90s. A controllable MLB SS isn’t a bad return. Nobody’s giving you a top 20 MLB prospect for 2 months of Machado.
” Nobody’s giving you a top 20 MLB prospect for 2 months of Machado.”
Machado’s value is strongest for a team like the Dodgers right now. If the Orioles are holding out until July 31st then Machado’s value is going to a team certain to make the postseason looking to increase their odds of winning the World Series.
maybe I’m wrong here but wasn’t Torres a top prospect that the cubs traded for a rental in Chapman?
Cards81, get out of here with your facts and logic. That kind of thing isn’t welcome here
I don’t know about that; just two years ago the Yanks got a great haul for Chapman – and then ended up getting Chapman back anyway.
He sure was
All it takes is a desperate team that believes Machado is the final piece to the puzzle. Both the Chapman and Miller deals were worth it for those teams even if it meant giving up too prospects. The cubs got that long awaited title and the Indians are still competing with Miller
I’m not saying Machado will or won’t return a top prospect, but I wouldn’t expect a top 25 type in return. Chapman is a pitcher, not a positioin player and while the Cubs won, many people still feel Torres was a big overpay for Chapman. Last season JD Martinez was the top hitting rental and he returned 3 prospects, the best of which is ranked as the #12 in Detroit’s system. In 2015, Cespedes was the top hitting rental and he returned Michael Fulmer who was not on any midseason prospect lists and only a back end top 100 guy heading into 2017.
If no team comes with that elite, top prosepct a package built around Russell might not be such a bad deal for the Orioles. He is only 24, has had MLB success and still comes with 3.5 years of control. Let him hit in a good hitting park with little preassure and maybe he builds up some nice value over the next 1-1.5 years and the Orioles can get a solid return for him then.
Torres was the #26 overall prospect when traded (MLBPipeline). I would think that a position player, especially one of Machado’s profile could get more than an elite closer giving you less than 30-40 IP, albeit important innings – but it really is about what’s available and which way the wind is blowing.
Hasn’t the draft pick compensation been lowered? Wouldn’t that affect how much the Orioles should be willing to accept? If they’re only going to get a pick at the end of the second round, they’re better off trading him for a blue chip prospect and change.
But I don’t think Russell will do it. He’s arbitration eligible for the next 3 years, so there isn’t that much upside for the Orioles.
No. Torres was ranked well outside the top 20, 19 years old and still in single A, at the time of the trade. He became a top prospect after he joined the Yankees. Being farther away matters: even if two prospects are similarly ranked, the one closer to the majors has far more trade value. Prospect lists aren’t ranking trade value, they’re ranking potential, and intentionally ignore how advanced a player is.
And the Cubs still severely overpaid, because of what winning meant to them. Now that they got a WS win, they’re not longer desperate enough to overpay by that much.
The reason the Yankees got Torres was because he was nearly major league ready and blocked by both Russell and Baez at SS. The Cubs were in a “win now mode” and were willing to overpay. This year is different.
The upgrade from Rondon to Chapman is far greater than the upgrade from Russell to Machado. Russell is just one year removed from a 95 Rbi 3.3 WAR season…
Torres was 19 and had a .791 OPS in High-A ball at the time of the trade. I don’t think that really qualifies as “nearly major league ready.”
The Dodgers. Lol
The Dodgers will be selling at TDL not buying.
They can’t afford Macho vs the L Tax if you had half a brain. The Dodger are done this season get over it. You think they will blow more over the cap not contending which means next year they are limited who they can sign. Just like they were limited this year which is why their BP is one of the worst in the NL. Use your head.
Russell and a bullpen arm might be enough for Machado’s jock strap. It’ll take much much more if you want the actual player.
Wow are you out of touch. That is all.
Get off the Meth. Russell by himself wouldn’t be enough for Machado let alone an added BP arm.
He Manny is going to NY if not the Yanks who don’t need him but no one is talking the Mets why give a all star Russell for another rental.
Russell is a light hitting, obp challenged RH hitter. He is a plus defender, but in his best season his OPS was .738. He’s never had an OPS+ greater than 94, meaning he has never in his career had an OPS that was league average. There is no chance that he alone could get Machado, and there’s no guarantee that the O’s have interest in Russell as the centerpiece of the trade. You want to try and sell me on Baez and Tseng for Machado? I’d listen on that.
Just no, years are important here. Machado is gone in the fall, so a controllable shortstop of decent quality, plus some low tier prospects, should get the deal done.
Braves fans always talking unrealistic trades, even if it’s not about their own team. If the Yankees can command what they did for Chapman the O’s can command at least that for Machado.
I highly doubt the Orioles have any interest in Russell at all. Reason being is the number of years. Russell has two or three (too lazy to look it up) years of control left. All he would do is contribute to a last place team for a few years. Orioles shouldnt want or take any MLB pieces in a Machado trade and take a prospect package with the highest upside.
The Yankees hit lightning in a bottle that year with the Cubs and Indians clamoring for a WS title. Chapman and Miller were pitchers. Look at the return for JDM last year. That said it will take much more than Russell. Otherwise the O’s with their stubborn ownership might not make a trade.
Although I don’t entirely disagree with you, the problem is that any team in the league could easily beat out a Russel headliner trade for Manny…The cardinals, Brewers,, Dodgers,…well pretty much anybody in the league
I wonder if the O’s could pull off a deal like the Chapman deal? Trade Machado for at least one good prospect and maybe a lottery ticket, then re-sign him this winter? Or is Baltimore just too cheap?
Could happen but methinks a full scale rebuild is more likely in Baltimore after this season.
It seems like that should happen, but doesn’t seem like Angelos’ style. He might need someone in the organization to convince him to operate in the International market, at least (The O’s famously don’t do that).
Just because light hitting Russell has control years does not mean he is super valuable. Would you do Machado for ten years of Ubaldo Jimenez?
Were’s the upside for the O’s?
If Russell continues to suck, he’s of no help and the O’s will have given away Machado for nothing.
If Russell breaks out, they’ll have to pay him in arbitration and potentially lose him 3 years fron now.
No, I also wouldn’t equate Russell with Ubaldo Jimenez. Because that’s a very silly thing to do.
So with that logic your saying the O’s wouldn’t want to get a player back in the trade that plays extremely well for 3 years because they will have to pay him so much more? LoL! Uh ok!
Brewers? You do realize they don’t have a single difference maker in their system don’t you? And the longer Brinson looks like a fly swatter that can run, the worse every remaining prospect in that system looks since he was widely held as the crown jewel.
No, not when they can get other, better prospects who are not arbitration eligible and not when the team needs a total rebuild.
And the playing well for 3 years is hardly a guarantee.
It would be Russell+. Be interesting to follow reporters of different levels through out the year to hear reports of where Baltimore scouts are focusing. I don’t know that anyone can really say what the Orioles want in return right now besides a lot.
Why would the Orioles want Russell? He hasn’t turned into the superstar the Cubs expected, and he’s three years from free agency. The O’s are in (or should be) complete tear-down and rebuild mode…having a shortstop on the brink of free agency (which Russell is for the Orioles, considering they have no shot to contend while he’s under contract) makes no sense.
They may or may not get top prospects or a huge haul for him because he’s a rental, but Machado should be able to get them something they can control for more year than Russell.
…but …but He plays for the Cubs. Of course he’s super-duper valuable.
Russell’s value is debatable, I’m not gonna do what others are doing, and shut you down over that. He is a talented player.
But what isn’t debatable is that the Orioles need a full rebuild. And it’s gonna take years.
Russell has three and a half years left of team control, which means the Orioles have no use for him. Or any bullpen arms, for that matter. What they’ll want is prospects. Preferably ones that are still years away from the majors.
Why would they do that for a rental? Unless they think they have better chance to sign him by him playing there for 3 months. Makes alot more since for teams with depth in minors such as dodgers.
That’s a good point. How often have we seen teams trade for a rental star and the fans develop optimism that the player will re-sign? It rarely happens (Dickey & Halladay come to mind, but they weren’t mid-season trades). You can’t give up extra value for Machado on the hope that he’ll be a long-term player. You trade for what his current contract is worth to you.
And besides, the Cubs don’t have the money to sign Machado long term, and if they do trade for him, then they can’t issue a QO (which helps to rebuild the farm when he rejects and signs elsewhere). Technically next year the team could move Baez over to SS and slot Happ in at 2B, which would reduce the need for a free agency splash.
FanForLife—-totally agree that the Cubs could go with the Baez/Happ thing in the future. Don’t agree that they don’t have the money to sign Machado. Between a new TV deal coming, multiple concerts at Wrigley (all the money goes directly to the team), all the connecting surrounding businesses, etc….they have the money. Whether they want to get to the $250M plus payroll is their decision. If wanted (or needed) they certainly can DFA Heyward and his remaining six years without blinking an eye. They may not use it that way, but they have it.
Correct me if I’m wrong but if they trade for him mid season there is no QO compensation when they lose him
You are correct.
No way they DFA Heyward….
The Cubs have money, but not an unlimited fund of resources, and the have a lot of players to pay in the coming years. Saying they could run a payroll at $250M might be pushing it, especially with luxury tax penalties. (And even if they DFA Heyward they still have to pay him.) Also, it’s not whether they can afford $250M, it’s whether $250M will pay for the players they have/want to sign. If they sign Machado (or Harper for that matter) in a few years time the combination of him, Bryant, Baez, Contreras, and Heyward are likely going to eat up more than $150M in payroll space. Your $250M projected payroll leaves $100M for 20 spots, including the entire pitching staff.
yes, the Cubs have money, but not an endless bucket of resources to dig from. At the end of the day they’re probably 3rd or 4th in overall revenue in MLB.
Plus they are going to need lots of pitching in the next 3 years
and that’s going to be costly. Because they don’t have it in the minors or depth to trade for it!
The Cubs don’t have money to sign him??? The Cubs own the printing press.
Aside from Heyward and Darvish, their contracts are minimal.
Heyward will probably be forced to opt out, next year, anyway.
Even with the light cap, the Cubs can afford to go WELL over it and still be fine.
Ricketts just gave Theo the okay to spend on whatever he needs.
They can afford Machado and Harper.
The Cubs have plenty of money that just a stupid statement there they have 25 billion dollar TV deal in 2020 Lester and BZ coming off the books n the park paid for in 2020. Money no object. They could easy go 350@10 without blinking
They need to give that 350mil and 12 years to Bryant. Then another 150mil 8 years for rizzo.
If they had unlimited funds they would have signed arrieta and probably Yu. Over chatwood who has been off and on.
I agree. While there MIGHT be some value in getting a player familiar and comfortable with the city and the organization in advance of his free agency, this can just as easily backfire (as it did with the Dodgers and Yu Darvish) and the prospects that Machado would cost in a trade would be worth more than a slight hypothetical advantage in signing him. That’s why it’s strange to see so many commenters on this site acting like an extension is the key to any Machado trade.
I’m pretty sure the Dodgers didn’t try all that hard (if at all) to resign Darvish this offseason. Not sure that example works even in the slightest.
Based on Darvish’s comments he didn’t seem too keen on re-signing with LA, regardless of whether or not they wanted him to.
The LAD didn’t have the money wo blowing more tax. You guys think about these teams w money but forget the tax
o’s turned down Russell,Almora, and Montgomery for Machado before the season. Not sure if its worth it for a rental. will take 8 years and 300 million to sign him after this year. alot to think about.
Where did you hear this? A Cubs fan sight? Doubt that was a real thing.
Orioles Do Not Expect To Trade Manny Machadohttps://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/12/orioles-do-not-expect-to-trade-manny-machado.html
That article you referenced says, “While there’s no reason to think all three Chicago players would have been included in the same deal, Addison Russell, Albert Almora, and Mike Montgomery all came up in chatter.”
Those were players that were talked about, not an offer for Machado. The asking price to get MM for the entire season and still be able to offer him a QO was reported as 2 quality, controllable SP and nobody stepped up to meet that price. Now teams will only have him for 2-3 months and won’t be able to recoup a draft pick if he leaves. There are also reports that Machado is adamant about staying at SS. If I was an O’s fan I would be worried that the return for our franchise player is going to come back light. Especially considering that many of the top teams either don’t have the need, payroll space and/or top prospects for a significant return.
The Orioles have no leverage in the trade talks. They’re a terrible team that basically needs to get rid of him, but they can’t offer anything of secure value.
Teams aren’t going to give up a major haul for only 2-3 guaranteed months. It’s just not happening. Might as well just wait until he’s a free agent to try and sign him.
No way that offer was actually on the table and if it was the O’s were crazy for not taking it
I know that’s a bunch of bs. Your talking 3 mlb ready players with years of control Balt would fly Macho to Chicago personally for that deal. Your full of it.
I’m disappointed in Addison Russell, but here’s what concerns me. Let’s say the Cubs trade him as part of a package for Machado, and then see Machado become a free agent. That leaves the Cubs without a shortstop.
you’d have to make Baez your SS and Happ your 2B.
I like this alignment
Baez is atrocious at shortstop. He’s an error machine when he plays there.
Happ also has no business in the major leagues. He’s a strikeout machine, and it’s really annoying watching him play.
I’m not sure what kind of crack you two are smoking, but it must be some really good stuff.
Really. You must be on crack. Baez leads mlb in runs saved. Oh yeah and RBIs Go away troll
As much as certain people would enjoy the thought of Russell being traded for Machado, I’m against it. Why give up 4 years of Russell for a half season of Machado, who has already said he will test FA? I can’t speak for others, but personally for me I’d rather have Russell/Baez up the middle for the next few years over Baez/Happ.
Baez is probably better than Russell
My point wasn’t good enough to post twice. Sorry.
If the Cubs use Russell to acquire Machado somehow and he doesn’t sign an extension, next year Baez can play short and Happ second.
If the cubs got Machado (which I don’t see happening) they would have to give one or two of Russell, Baez, Almora, and Schwarber plus like 2 or 3 prospects at least two in the top 10 or 15. The orioles aren’t gonna take cheap on Machado or veterans because if they trade him they want some young talent back
If they want that much, then machado will be an oriole in September. If he was controllable for even 1-2 more years maybe, but 3 months of Mike trout isn’t worth that much.
Neither of these comments are realistic.
Who’s this Braves fan suggesting these trades? Christ I thought Cubs fans were delusional.
Baez isn’t gonna be traded and theo and jed would laugh in dudes face. That’s just dumb. You dont trade the best 2nd baseman in baseball for a rental. With zero chance of keeping him.
Anywhere Machado is Traded will cost your best 2-3 prospects…. Orioles are rebuilding & there will be a Big enough market for him on July 31.
Correction: The O’s should be rebuilding. There’s no indication at this point that they will, only speculation at this point.
From what I understand Angelos is not a “rebuild” guy, correct? They play in a big enough market that it seems like he feels like he can compete every year, and we all know they refuse to spend money in the International market, which would seem to be a good way to jumpstart a rebuild.
Not a chance the O’s get that kind of haul for MM!
Has Dickerson been the best off-season acquisition? The Pirates got Corey Dickerson for Daniel Hudson, a minor league infielder, and some cash. Hudson was released in Spring Training, and Dickerson has 1.7 WAR, which is the 18th best war in The MLB (according to Fangraphs).
Yeah, definitely took advantage of the Rays’ cheapness and Dickerson’s terrible defensive reputation. Strangely enough,, in Pittsburgh Dickerson’s defense has rated out well, and it is certainly true that some outfields are easier to play than others. If the defense is real, then it was a definite steal for Pittsburgh.
I thought he’d be serviceable in the outfield; not gold glove level, but good enough, but he’s done much better with the glove than I think a lot of people thought he would.
If the Yankees can command what they did for Chapman the O’s can command at least that for Machado. People are saying rentals don’t command as much as they used to, which is generally true but you don’t often get rentals of this caliber on the market.
Also, O’s fan here, I wish DD would start taking offers now. The Cubs did so well to get Addison and more for Shark and Hammels. Addison has not worked out as hoped but he’s still really young with plenty of upside. The Cubs are sitting on him like the O’s did Manny in years two and three.
Regardless, here’s to hoping DD is done at seasons end… Granted, they replace him with Brady Anderson who got us Cashner, Tillman, and Cobb. Yikes. Angelos is real problem but that’s not changing. Also, the fans are now frustrated that the O’s are not hitting the rebuild button, which is fascinating. That’s illustrated in attendance numbers, which have been down since Opening Week.
If I’m the Orioles I put him on the market now and see what I’m offered. They are 8-27, their season is over NOW. Some team may pay a lot more now, with 125 games left in the season, as opposed to when there are just 60-70 games left. Thats a huge difference. Originally thought the Dodgers were strong match, but they are 9 games back. They won’t pull that trigger unless they are much closer in July, by which time he could be gone. I wouldn’t mind seeing the D Backs get him, even though I’d be nervous about the cost. Their pitching is great, but offense is lacking. They are a 24-11 team that is in great position to make post season, and integrating Machado into this team now would be adding “Marginal Wins” . But the cost. ! Pulling out yet more prospects from an already thin pipeline is not something I would normally advocate. However Pollock and Corbin are free agents next year and both on track to have career years . Things will be barren for a while in AZ after 2018 whether they scrape a couple or three of their top 10 guys off the top or not. So they should probably strike now and go for it. In the past I have never been up for “Win now moves”, but ironically I think this may be the time.
2 good prospects. Make that deal now. Ask Machado to play next season at 25million
Not a chance Machado agrees to that
Ask Machado to agree to a one-year extension? Uhh, no. That’s not happening.
Stop with the insanity…
Come on man
Oh and as for the Russell for Machado rumors, I don’t see why the Orioles be interested in a guy who is only 3 years out from free agency after this year. Orioles won’t contend during those 3 years.
Bucs “fans” should read every single thing that Jeff Sullivan writes.
Then they’d understand how much bullflop they get fed by MM and DK and their parrots.
Here’s some Machado trade ideas:
Cardinals: Machado and Brad Brach for RHP Jack Flaherty, RHP Junior Fernandez and Of Harrison Bader
Dodgers: Machado for RHP Yadier Alvarez, RHP Jordan Sheffield and Inf Drew Jackson
Cubs: Machado and Brach for RHP Thomas Hatch, RHP Jen Ho Tseng , SS Addison Russell and LHP Mike Montgomery (Orioles then flip Russell and Montgomery to Dodgers for RHP Jordan Sheffield and RHP Dennis Santana
Brewers: Machado for RHP Luis Ortiz and Of Brett Phillips
Lol machado isnt going to the brewers. They would have to trade a lot more than 2 prospects that aren’t even ranked anymore.
Cubs have a crowded infield so someone would have to go for sure
https://www.myajc.com/blog/mark-bradley/are-the-braves-brave-enough-take-run-manny-machado/rsizucTL7jYHzTRoVGXKpO/. Just saying!
Most sensible destination for Machado is Los Angeles. With Seagar out Machado would fit right in and the Dodgers would be under no obligation to keep him when Seagar returns next season.
Seager wont return til May. Unless theres a setback.
Russell plus Happ should be more than enough for Machado…
What is it with Cub fans having such unrealistically high opinions of what their guys,are worth? Russell is,just a guy, and a,domestic abuser too. Not a building block for a franchise like Baltimore who needs to start all over again. Schwarber is a no glove low average guy with huge power. They are common. Duda, Joyce, Chris Carter, Mark Reynolds, not much value. The Os need a pretty solid controllable guy, a guy or two with a decent shot at being mob regulars someday, and maybe a,lottery ticket for Manny. Think along the lines of Happ, a good AAA center fielder type, and a promising A or AA type SP. Makes sense for both sides, if it all worked out, Baltimore could get maybe 2 regulars by the time they are ready to compete, and if not, Happ is closer to being able to help the big club than whoever they would draft with the QO pick they would get by keeping him. Baltimore needs multiple starting players,to get better. Schwarber would be like Trumbo 2.0. The Dodgers,are the best fit anyway. They have talent at all levels to trade, and might even absorb a bad contract to provide financial relief. Trumbo or Davis, anyone?
You do know that Russell never touched his wife in an abusive way right? His now ex wifes friend said he did. So 99% they are gonna believe the women over the man.
Back on topic. Russell is top 5 SS in the NL. Top 10 in all of baseball. Extremely underrated.
Keep in mind that Almora and Machado are very good friends —
More than Bryant and Harper. Just so the cubs don’t trade their only real pitching prospect
They are good friends. Did they play together in high school? Are their wives best friends? Probably not. I cant see Machado or Harper going to the Cubs. Unless it’s a 3 year deal with an opt out. Doubt that would ever happen.
I hope the Tigers continue their rebuild with Leonys Martin. The only players they should trade away are players with heavy contracts or players that they get two for one of better quality and they ignore the hype and trust their scouting process
Unless they have a DH rule added mid season. Theres no reason to even call about him. Theres no place to play him. They dont have anyone to trade away for him as well.