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Padres’ Relievers Drawing Trade Interest

By Steve Adams | June 14, 2018 at 12:52pm CDT

The Padres, unsurprisingly, have already been receiving trade inquirieson their relievers, reports Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic in his latest notes column (subscription required). Not only is Brad Hand garnering a strong bit of interest, but setup men Kirby Yates and Craig Stammen are each drawing inquiries from rival clubs, as are some of the team’s younger relievers.

Most notably, Rosenthal suggests that the interest in Hand is different than in recent years, owing both to his newly signed contract extension and the fact that he has now more emphatically cemented himself as a proven, elite lefty reliever.

Each of the listed relievers has an ERA south of 2.50 on the season, and each boasts strong K/BB numbers in addition to a ground-ball rate of 50 percent or better. More appealing than any of that, however, could be the simple fact that each of the three is both affordable and under control for multiple seasons.

Hand, who turned 28 in March, is the most notable of the bunch. Despite his relative proximity to free agency, he signed surprising three-year, $19.75MM contract extension in the offseason — a deal that also gives the Padres affordable a $10MM club option over the 2021 season. A waiver claim by the Padres out of the Marlins organization, Hand has improved each year in San Diego. He’s currently sitting on a 1.78 ERA with 13.3 K/9, 3.6 BB/9, 0.76 HR/9 and a 50 percent ground-ball rate in 35 1/3 innings.

Overall, since joining the Friars, he’s pitched to a superlative 2.43 ERA and averaged nearly 12 strikeouts per nine innings. With an average annual value just barely north of $6.5MM, his contract would fit into the majority of teams’ budgets — even those close to the luxury tax threshold (with, perhaps, the notable exception of the Giants, though a San Diego/San Francisco swap of this magnitude seems unlikely anyhow).

Hand, though, is hardly the only waiver claim who has reinvented himself in San Diego. The 31-year-old Yates pitched well for the Padres after being claimed from the Angels last season, but he’s taken his game to a new level in 2018, tossing 27 innings with a flat 1.00 ERA, a 32-to-8 K/BB ratio and a 52.3 percent grounder rate.

San Diego encouraged Yates to ditch his slider in favor of a splitter (as he recently discussed with MLB.com’s AJ Cassavell), and the righty has transformed himself completely. That ground-ball rate is nearly 20 points higher than his career mark, and the formerly homer-prone Yates has now surrendered only one home run in 2018 with his new ground-focused attack. Yates, who has a 2.83 ERA in 82 2/3 innings and an average of 13 strikeouts per nine innings pitched since joining the Padres, is earning just $1.0625MM in 2018 and is arbitration-eligible through the 2020 season.

Stammen, meanwhile, parlayed a minor league deal with the Padres prior to the 2017 season into a two-year, $4.5MM deal spanning the 2018-19 seasons. And after posting a 3.14 ERA with 8.3 K/9, 3.1 BB/9, 1.34 HR/9 and a 51.6 percent ground-ball rate in 80 1/3 innings of relief last year, Stammen has further elevated his status in 2018.

So far, the 34-year-old has logged a 2.30 ERA with a career-best 9.5 K/9 against 1.4 BB/9 and 0.29 HR/9 with a 50 percent ground-ball rate through 31 1/3 frames. Stammen’s velocity remains in the low 90s (91.2 mph average fastball), but his 12.2 percent swinging-strike rate and 35.6 percent chase rate resemble his peak form with the Nationals from a few years back. Beyond that, he’s pounding the zone more than ever, evidenced not only by his walk rate but his superb 69.1 percent first-pitch strike rate. At $2.25MM both this year and next (plus up to $1MM worth of incentives each season), he’s a bargain that any team could afford.

Rosenthal notes, too, that some of the Padres’ younger relievers have also attracted interest. While specific names aren’t listed, it stands to reason that clubs may have checked in on rookie Adam Cimber, who went from an afterthought to a potential All-Star seemingly overnight. Former starter Robbie Erlin has displayed the best control of his career while working as a multi-inning lefty, while right-hander Phil Maton has impressed since joining the club as well.

[Related: San Diego Padres depth chart]

Of course, it’s hardly certain what route the Padres will take this summer. Preller has surprised onlookers in the past by holding onto Hand at multiple trade deadlines, and he opted not to trade Tyson Ross in 2016 and Jhoulys Chacin last season. With an emerging young core, perhaps Preller and his staff would prefer to hang onto their impressive collection of controllable bullpen arms with an eye toward contending in the future.

It’s also not out of the question that the Padres end up viewing themselves as at least fringe contenders during the current season. While such a notion will elicit plenty of eye-rolling, the Friars are 11-4 over their past 15 games and now sit 5.5 games back in the NL West. They’re still four games under .500, so a serious run seems far-fetched, though they’re also on the verge of getting Joey Lucchesi, Wil Myers and Franchy Cordero back from the disabled list, as well.

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  1. deweybelongsinthehall

    7 years ago

    Was reading another article that suggested the Red Sox should be aggressive now because they don’t have the chips to get into a bidding war. I hope I’m wrong as I don’t see it as others will still outbid them for anyone above the radar. Boston will have to deal with internal options or find a diamond in the rough in my view.

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      7 years ago

      This is Ken Rosenthal reporting this so…
      This morning on MLB Central he actually made it sound like the Red Sox were going after Machado.
      Remember this is the same guy that was scooped by a teenage blogger a few years ago…

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      • iverbure

        7 years ago

        Lol that’s your evidence for him not being a good reporter? I’ve made multiple guesses on ufc fights and tweet about them as breaking news. Just cause I get a few corrected doesn’t mean I scooped the story lol.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          7 years ago

          Well since there’s evidence of it when someone Googles it, and it’s a running joke on MLB network. Plus he’s admitted it..again just Google it. “Just cause I get a few corrected” who exactly is correcting you on your errors?

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        7 years ago

        I’m biased with Ken who I don’t know but I knew his dad who was a phenomenal attorney.

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    • bostonbob

      7 years ago

      There is not much left on the farm to trade

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    • beardedface_killah

      7 years ago

      Your opinion means nothing.

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  2. bbatardo

    7 years ago

    Padres have a lot of reliever depth so I could see them dealing 1 or 2 of the players even if they are still in it come July. While an extremely small sample size.. Jose Castillo is someone to watch. Not often does a pitcher record 9 K’s in their first 4 innings of work.

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    • nutznboltz

      7 years ago

      Castillo will replace Hand as the closer sooner than later.

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  3. sufferforsnakes

    7 years ago

    Tribe needs help like these guys.

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    • Solaris601

      7 years ago

      CLE should be willing to trade Francisco Mejia to SD in a deal for Hand. This makes sense on multiple levels. Hand is an elite, affordable closer for the next 2.5 years plus a $10M option after that. Tribe will lose Miller and Allen to free agency after the season, and there is no heir apparent in the system for either of them. CLE needs bullpen help now, also. Despite his tremendous upside, Mejia doesn’t seem to fit into Cleveland’s plans (they’ve pledged allegiance to Gomes and Perez for the next several years). He could be SD’s starting C for many years to come.

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      • thecoffinnail

        7 years ago

        Solid foundation for a trade for both teams. I think Preller will want a couple of low level guys as well.. Hand has an even better contract than Miller did and Cleveland is going to have to come pretty close to matching that trade.

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  4. SanDiegoTom

    7 years ago

    I hope preller finds a taker for Tyson and hand. Maybe unload Myers but I doubt that will be possible given his injuries and contract… maybe a bad contract trade? Outfield is very crowded right now in San Diego

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    • Solaris601

      7 years ago

      Hand and Myers to CLE for Francisco Mejia, Adam Plutko, Bradley Zimmer, and Jason Kipnis. Padres would just have to endure Kipnis for another year and a half before declining his 2020 option. Tribe plugs Myers into the OF until Encarnacion’s and Alonso’s contracts expire after 2019, then use him strictly as 1B/DH. Hand closes for the next 3.5 years for CLE. Padres have a starting C for the next 6 years, high upside SP for 6 years, and Zimmer for a few years. Big trade, but I think it’s a win-win.

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      • padreforlife

        7 years ago

        Lol. Indians going to pay Myers 20 mil s year starting 2020
        Ok

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      • Michael Chaney

        7 years ago

        When you suggested Mejia and maybe a little more for Hand, that was okay. I’d probably be reluctant to do that and I doubt they’d trade for Hand like they did Miller, but you can definitely justify it.

        But to trade Mejia, one of their young depth starters, a young outfielder with a lot of upside, and Kipnis (who’s bad and overpaid but not for as long as Myers will be) for Hand and Myers is a hard pass from me.

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          If you took Zimmer out that deal would make a lot more sense. Padres can clear out Myers and still have a glut of outfielders to pick from. Pluck a decent but not great prospect out of Cle’s system and that makes some more sense. I don’t know if SD needs to move money that bad though. Clearing out Myers would save money and lessen their outfield crunch but they’d also lose some pieces in the hand trade. Tough call.

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  5. petersdylan36

    7 years ago

    I’m a padres fan who wants them to hold onto these arms and make a push towards next year.

    But if they did trade Hand, I don’t see how they don’t start at an asking price similar to Chapman and Miller.

    His stats are over two completely dominant years. That’s not a small sample size at all. That and the fact that he is controllable for at least three more years makes him a high demand arm.

    They may not get what Chapman got but it’s hard not to see them getting something pretty darn close to that.

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  6. BlueSkyLA

    7 years ago

    Mentioned this in another thread but here again it’s worth saying that the Padres are one of baseball’s sleeper teams. They are just a shade under .500 now and with some key players coming off the DL they could quite possibly become a breakeven team. Still only a fringe contender, but not the doormat team that many predicted, not by any means. Preller would be nuts to trade away any cheap controllable talent at just the moment when the team is starting looking pretty good.

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    • outinleftfield

      7 years ago

      I posted and then scrolled up and saw your post. You seem to have hit the nail squarely on the head. Britton and Brach have a good chance of being traded for the fading O’s, but the surging Padres will be in the market to add a starting pitcher and maybe a 3B to that team.

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      • Jbigz12

        7 years ago

        Why would the padres buy right now? That rotation doesn’t look good with another pitcher. They’re hanging around but they’re going to get outlasted by the better teams in that division. That rotation is not taking a team anywhere.

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        • Solaris601

          7 years ago

          I agree. Padres’ rebuild has been a long time in the making, and it’s beginning to bear a solid foundation. I still like the Hosmer signing a lot for this team, but oh that Myers extension. Really need to do whatever is necessary to get him outta there. The rotation just isn’t built for contention. One could argue they’d need to acquire 3 SPs to seriously contend this year. Clayton Richard has been a good soldier, innings eater, and he’s taken a few for the team, but he’s a #5 starter on most teams and a long reliever on the rest.

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    • sdsuphilip

      7 years ago

      The Padres could trade a arm or 2 and not have a significant drop off, Padres have minor league depth, Robert Stock, Trey Wingenter, Miguel Diaz, and Robert Stock. Obviously brad hand/Kirby Yates would be losses but trading them for potential core pieces that can play every day or start every 5 days makes sense

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    • juicemane

      7 years ago

      oh wow, great prediction you two faced losers…you weren’t calling them a sleeper before the season like me??? NOOOO you were talking about how Tom Koehler is the next Brandon morrow…

      “don’t suck at your hobby because it probably means you suck at everything else…”

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  7. SixFlagsMagicPadres

    7 years ago

    Hand is way too good to hold onto at this point. The potential return he could fetch would help make the farm even better than it already is. If they don’t trade him by the Deadline, then they should look to the upcoming offseason. The Padres are deep at bullpen, so they could still theoretically have a strong relief core even without Hand.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      7 years ago

      Trading Hand only makes sense if management sees their competitive window being at least 2-3 years off. He’d be tough to replace later on.

      A Brad in the Hand beats two in the bush leagues…

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      • hiflew

        7 years ago

        Dude, you win the internet today with that last quote.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          The internet followed me home. Can I keep it?

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        • juicemane

          7 years ago

          dude, you gave yourself props from yourself on your second account, way to ‘slay’ this message board!

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      • Injediwetrust

        7 years ago

        That’s exactly what the Padres front office is sayin9. 2019 was the initial target but 2020 and beyond seems more realistic. The one thing the Padres have never had trouble with is the ability to pull bullpen pieces out of nowhere.

        Munoz, Reyes, Diaz, Torres (after suspension), Wingenter, etc. Even could put Lyles back in the pen, Hughes,. Mitchell could get struck with lightning and find something. If AJ can get near ML ready assets for all three of these guys, he has to do it.

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    • alexryanperry

      7 years ago

      Hand, Yates, and Ross need to be traded regardless of how the team is doing at the deadline. Even without Hand and possibly Yates, the Padres still have a very good bullpen, now and in the future. Relievers seem to grow on trees in San Diego…plus, the possibility to grab another top 25 prospect like Mejia or Tucker is too good to pass up if I were Preller.

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      • SanDiegoTom

        7 years ago

        I agree, padres are real contenders in a 2020 imo. Tatis is on his way, why not unload those 3 for more pieces…

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  8. Ash B

    7 years ago

    One of these will definitely be sold while their value is so high. Now is the perfect time to trade them in order to maximize the return. Only real question, which one will it be?

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  9. dvmwitt

    7 years ago

    Definitely try and trade Stammen. Hand would have to bring back at least one top prospect. Yates also has been pretty dominant.

    With the way we’re playing right now, its hard to say which way we should go. Are we getting good enough where we will be competetive next year? Should we keep the bullpen together?

    Hand, Yates, Stammen, Maton, Castillo, Cimber,…we have depth if we do want to make a trade. If Wingenter was reliable, it would make it easier to trade someone, but he just throws hard.. Stock seems to be pretty similar.. Wieck could easily be called up soon….

    Ugh, sorry for rambling.

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  10. outinleftfield

    7 years ago

    Other teams can ask about him, but the Padres won’t be trading Hand. If teams wanted him, last year or the offseason was the time to get him. The Padres are one of the hottest teams in baseball right now. They have a .667 win rate this month and .575 over the past 40 games and are just 4 games under .500 for the season. They also have 4 key players returning from rehab assignments in the next couple of weeks. They will be buyers, not sellers at the deadline.

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    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      7 years ago

      I really hope they’re not buyers. The whole plan centers on them being at least another year away from contending. I’d hate to see them start taking a “win-now” approach and start rushing the rebuild. Sort of like what’s happening to the Twins. If they play near .500 ball the rest of the season, then great, but their best years are still yet to come.

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      • Ash B

        7 years ago

        They won’t be buyers… May try to acquire an cost controlled player like Archer if it makes sense. But no way they deviate from the plan

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  11. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    7 years ago

    I rarely think the Pirates should buy, but Hand is one of the few times where I think it would make sense for them. Young, great contract, fits a real need, would change their winning curve, etc.

    Between him and Vasquez, if either of them performs near their peak value, it would pay for both of their contracts. If both do, you have a pair of elite RP’s at bargain prices.

    But I wouldn’t trade Meadows or Keller and I suspect that Baz isn’t enough of a headliner that someone else won’t outbid them. IF the Padres would take a quantity over quality return, then who knows.

    The other thing, though, is that “Brad Hand”s can appear out of nowhere…as he did for the Padres…so it’s tempting to keep trying to find your own rather than pay full retail for someone else’s.

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    • JackDanielsGhost

      7 years ago

      Preller prefers quality to quantity. The padres have such a deep farm that there’s no room so someone who will be just another guy. If he doesn’t get an impact player, he ain’t selling.

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  12. padreforlife

    7 years ago

    Myers isn’t key player

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    • outinleftfield

      7 years ago

      You aren’t a Padres fan either. Myers is signed long-term and hit 30 HR with 20 SB last season. That makes him a key player regardless of what team he is on.

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      • padreforlife

        7 years ago

        Key because owed a ton or key because he can’t field and strikeout machine

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        • outinleftfield

          7 years ago

          Look at other 30 HR hitters and tell me how much they strike out. Look at the O’s Davis or the Ranger’s Gallo.
          How many of them had 20 SB last season?
          Myers has played 5 positions since becoming a Padre, so you cannot even get an accurate metric for his defense. At 1B he was above average and only Hosmer was better at picking balls, the biggest job of a 1B.
          Why is it that an Orioles fan has to school you on the players of the team you claim to be a fan of?

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          If you had been paying attention you’d know that padreforlife doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground. Best to just ignore.

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        • Padres2019ha

          7 years ago

          Haha thank you

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        • padreforlife

          7 years ago

          Myers plays a ton of positions but none well

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  13. HalosFan8

    7 years ago

    I hope the Angels take a long look at some of these relievers. Eppler won’t overpay for relief, but if he could address the black hole that is RF (Myers, maybe?) and get a quality arm, I’d be ecstatic.

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    • Philliesfan4life

      7 years ago

      I would like for them to get brad hand but do they have the prospects to get him

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      • lowtalker1

        7 years ago

        They don’t
        It’ll be like Seattle calling the padres on jank
        Hangs up the phone unless they part with a certain player due for tjs

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      • Go Angels

        7 years ago

        I don’t think they can get Hand, but I would be glad for them to get Yates (again) or Stammen.

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        • nochesucio

          7 years ago

          Yates for Brandon Marsh? Seems like the right trade for both.

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    • mooshimanx

      7 years ago

      Preller’s shown multiple times he’s not going to move anyone unless it’s what fans would consider an overpay.

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  14. natsfan11

    7 years ago

    The Nationals should try to acquire Stammen. Their bullpen has, as usual, been less than effective. Kintzler, Madson, and Kelley have struggled and Glover and Benoit have been hurt all year. Plus, there would be some familiarity with the organization.

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    • bleacherbum

      7 years ago

      I mentioned this in a post yesterday.

      Thought that Stammen and Tyson Ross to the Nationals makes a lot of sense.

      Stammen can call it a homecoming and go back to the organization he came up with.

      Ross can go be the #5/swingman in that rotation/bullpen. He also gets to help out his little brother who is already in that clubhouse dealing with an injury that big brother has also had and has overcome. Think that would help Joe out a lot to have Tyson there for a few months.

      Was thinking something like Tyson Ross and Craig Stammen for SS Carter Kieboom and RP Jefry Rodriguez.

      Thoughts?

      I figure it’s a good possibility that Tatis Jr. outgrows SS and will have to move to 3rd, if that happens then Kieboom inserts at SS nicely. Trea Turner is going to hold that position down in DC for the next decade so they can afford to lose Kieboom for two solid veteran relievers in a season where it’s World Series or bust for them honestly.

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      • natsfan11

        7 years ago

        Maybe not Rodriguez because he had a solid debut, but I agree that we can afford to lose Kieboom. Maybe we can ship out both Kiebooms haha.

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      • jamess-7

        7 years ago

        I’d do this for Carter Kieboom SS/2B and Eric Fedde RHP in a heartbeat. I’d entertain an offer on Hand centered on those two as well.

        Geez, adding those guys to the minors we already have should be illegal.

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        • bleacherbum

          7 years ago

          I’d do that deal right now.

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  15. Stingray

    7 years ago

    The Padres have a super ‘pen right now and lots of depth there. Their weakness is the rotation. I could see Preller flip a reliever or two for a decent mid-rotation starter.

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  16. Philliesfan4life

    7 years ago

    I think the Astros need to beat the yankees to the punch in getting brad hand

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    • bleacherbum

      7 years ago

      Only question is, who will budge first.

      Kyle Tucker or Miguel Andujar.
      Forrest Whitley or Chance Adams.

      We shall see how this al plays out.

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      • Philliesfan4life

        7 years ago

        If the Astros make a room for him, should plug them back to the world series.

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      • outinleftfield

        7 years ago

        if the Yankees headlined a package with Andujar, I think the Padres might trade Hand, but the Yankees have never been a team that makes trades like that.

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        • mooshimanx

          7 years ago

          I mean, the Yankees were already reported to have refused to trade Andujar for DeGrom, who is worth way more than Hand is.

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        • bleacherbum

          7 years ago

          Well that’s ridiculous on the Yankees end then. DeGrom is worth far more than Andujar alone. Hand is worth Andujar and a low end top 30 prospect.

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        • padreforlife

          7 years ago

          Myers good defensively that’s why signed Hosmer to 144 mil to replace him ok. Myers stinks and no team wants him or backloaded contract

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  17. dvmwitt

    7 years ago

    Perhaps they could do some sort of super deal. Deal one of their relievers (not Hand) and package up a few players that are going to be Rule 5 eligible next year like Gettys, Wingenter, Kennedy, etc for a one top prospect and a couple high ceiling A+ players

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    • outinleftfield

      7 years ago

      The one thing the Padres have in spades is prospects. Maybe a trade of Stammen or another reliever and a couple of those prospects you mentioned plus a guy like Spangenberg or Pirela or Asuaje that is about to lose their job to other prospects for a good starting pitcher. That seems to be their real problem right now. no team chooses to have “bullpen games”. They do it because they don’t have the starting pitching. They are winning now, so adding a good starter could mean a push for a WC for them. They are only 5.5 games out.

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    • bleacherbum

      7 years ago

      I could see that, makes sense. Get what you can for the Rule 5 guys before other teams pluck those guys away for free basically.

      Pirela is a guy that could make sense in a DH/LF/2B capacity for a team, with Urias on the horizon and Spangenberg playing a lot better as of late, Pirela won’t have much of a spot soon.

      If I were a betting man, I would expect another one of those multiple player trades. Kind of like the Kansas City and Miami deadline deals of 16’ and 17’.

      Kansas City:

      Maurer, Buchter and Cahill for Travis Wood, Matt Straham and Estury Ruiz (now ranked in the Padres top 30 prospects.)

      Miami:

      Cashner, Rea (Returned to SD), Guerrero for Carter Capps, Jared Cosart, Luis Castillo (Returned to MIA), Josh Naylor(top 30 in Padres system.)

      What will this years version be?

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    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      7 years ago

      Yeah, this is a realistic possibility. Like Bleacherbum outlined, they have made trades like these in the past with multiple players/prospects changing hands, so maybe Preller decides to do the same this year. Stammen/Yates along with guys like Pirela, Jankowski, or Spangenberg, along with a prospect or two. Or instead of a reliever, they include Tyson Ross in the trade instead.

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    • lowtalker1

      7 years ago

      Winterger was just drafted 2 years ago

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  18. all in ad

    7 years ago

    Package the relievers but including Myers is a must. He needs to go to AL and be DH. His contract will soon turn stupid.

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    • alexryanperry

      7 years ago

      I agree, but his contract/injuries will keep his value low this year…I don’t think it would be a good idea to sell low on Myers…

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      • padreforlife

        7 years ago

        Is the high ever coming? Myers is just mush bad luck karma player

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  19. SixFlagsMagicPadres

    7 years ago

    Teams like the Astros and Nationals are certainly going to be making calls on Hand, so if it’s a good offer, I don’t see why they shouldn’t pull the trigger.

    Yes, the team is playing good right now, but let’s not get ahead of ourselves. There’s still holes on the roster and trading from a position of strength (bullpen) could help address this.

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  20. NotaGM

    7 years ago

    Hands name was all over the trade market last season…he’s still in the same uniform. Beneficial to trade him? Sure, but he controlled so why trade him now when they are a .500 ball club. Padres already rebuilt and now those pieces are starting to hit the mayors. They cant keep selling every year.

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  21. Lorenzo

    7 years ago

    I think many misjudge how far along the Padres rebuild is/was. At some point, the team builds on what it’s got, rather than trade for more prospects, especially when it’s the guts of a very good bullpen.

    The Padres, are 23-17 after April 30th, including 16-14 against winning clubs. They’ve won five straight series and that includes series against the Braves and Cardinals.

    Those who look at stats are looking at the weight of the first 30 games when they were 10-20. When you consider strength of schedule, until May 28th and the Marlins, the only team they’ve faced that didn’t have a winning record was … the Dodgers!

    The reason there are so many Padres “candidates” for trade is that they’re that good. That’s also the reason they’re not likely to be available for trade. A.J. Preller has to produce a winning parent club too, and the Padres are on the cusp of being the surprise of the year.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      7 years ago

      Agree completely. The only reason I can see them trading out of their strong relief corp is if they can use that strength to plug a big hole elsewhere. The question is who and what that might be. The generic argument that they need to be endlessly trading for more prospects doesn’t cut it, when the team already has a deep farm and the big team is looking pretty competitive right now. I’m not convinced that the Padres can sustain their current momentum but even if they don’t it should be pretty clear to everyone that the Padres are finally emerging from the wilderness.

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    • SixFlagsMagicPadres

      7 years ago

      Their Pythagorean win-loss record is 30-40. I know they had a tougher schedule at the beginning of the season, but look at the other teams in the NL West. The Dodgers started out slow, but now they’re back on track. The Diamondbacks look like they’ll push for a wild card at least, and the Rockies are always a dark horse. The Dodgers and Diamondbacks were also hit with many injuries. Looking at the rest of the NL, there’s going to have to be many things that go right for the Padres if they want to contend for a wild card spot.

      There’s no doubt that they are improving, but I just don’t think they’re there yet. That’s why it seems like a smart idea now to trade from their strong bullpen to help supplement what they’re building.

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      • BlueSkyLA

        7 years ago

        All true, but maybe too focused on them being in contention this year. That’s an agreed long shot. My point is they should not trade a valuable long term controllable asset such as Hand unless they are looking at the window of contention not opening until after 2021. The organization appears to be in better shape than that.

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        • juicemane

          7 years ago

          Omfg I will quit this site bc of _____ with 25 comments a day like you…please block…no one should be forced to listen nonsense constantly that is torture…this community is turning into fangraphs…probably the same people

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      • mooshimanx

        7 years ago

        The Padres have already proven they can just reload when it comes to the bullpen anyways; it’s what they always do. If that’s all you’re trading off, that seems fine to me because bullpen arms are rarely long term pieces anyways. Dismantling the 2018 bullpen isn’t going to be the difference between whether they’re competitive in 2020 or not.

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    • padreforlife

      7 years ago

      Cusp

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  22. RedRooster

    7 years ago

    We’ll see if anyone trusts Preller enough to offer fair market value for an of his pieces. But I don’t see Preller taking anything less. Only guys he necessarily has to trade are the rentals Galvis and Ross.

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    • bleacherbum

      7 years ago

      Has to this year, no excuses. He better not make the same mistakes he made when he held onto:

      Ian Kennedy
      Justin Upton
      Shawn Kelley
      Jhoulys Chacin

      And got nothing in return, but just watched them pack their lockers up and leave after game 162. Comp picks were turned into Lauer and Potts I believe, so the jury is still out but those guys are a fraction of the cost of what could have been had if the aforementioned players were traded on July 31st, when the Padres were cellar dwellers each year.

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      • bleacherbum

        7 years ago

        Inexcusable this year, regardless of the record. If they aren’t under contract for 19’ then they need to be flipped for a warm body that will be.

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      • juicemane

        7 years ago

        You’re so smart it’s truly amazing a team hasn’t signed you to their r&d…

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    • padreforlife

      7 years ago

      Ross last few starts weak and who wants SS at deadline test hits .230

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  23. padreforlife

    7 years ago

    Trust Preller WestCoast Ryan that’s funny. Let’s see if he can make s decent trade.

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  24. jussayin619

    7 years ago

    If your the Padres here’s what I feel should be the play at this point. Trade Myers and Pirela as a package deal and bring in a number 1 or 2 pitcher depending on the return. Play Cory at second and bring up urias. Make a push for first place before the deadline. Before the deadline you evaluate where ur at. If your a few games behind make a few more trades from ur prospects and pick up a solid number 1. If your not close then u trade away the pitcher u got from the Myers Pirela deal to a contender and try to get back a few solid prospects. It’s a win win at that point because your outfield is jammed up Myers has a good upside but is hurt often and Pirela is finally back into a groove hitting and has upside to him as well. We won’t miss Myers and Pirela is replaceable with urias or spangy playing the way he had lately with more pop. Also the nl West is up for grabs and all you gotta do is win the division which is a better chance for then then being a wild card

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    • mooshimanx

      7 years ago

      Nobody is going to take Myers unless they’re eating a ton of salary, and at some point you can’t keep eating salary on players who aren’t playing for you, especially when the only purpose in moving Myers is salary relief since you’re not going to get some important prospect for him. He has like 40 PA this year.

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      • SanDiegoTom

        7 years ago

        It makes sense if the the pitcher coming back is owed a similar price tag

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    • padreforlife

      7 years ago

      Yea trade Myers and Pirela for DeGrom ok

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  25. jb19

    7 years ago

    I don’t see the Astros interested in Hand if the price tag is Tucker or Whitley… I wouldn’t mind seeing Whitley in the pen in the playoffs. Along w McCullers.

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    • RedRooster

      7 years ago

      Don’t talk to jb19 in 2042. He’s already bought tickets to fly out to watch Tucker and Whitley’s inductions into Cooperstown that year.

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      • jb19

        7 years ago

        I have high expectations for both.

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    • Padres2019ha

      7 years ago

      Whitley is ineligible due to his suspension. Suspension also beings his trade value down

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  26. GarryHarris

    7 years ago

    Last year Padre trade rumors were the same.

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