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NL East Notes: Phillies, Hamels, Marlins, Cespedes

By Jeff Todd | July 4, 2018 at 9:32am CDT

Phillies GM Matt Klentak discussed his approach to the coming trade deadline with reporters including MLB.com’s Todd Zolecki. He emphasized a need “to understand how we got here and why we got here, and it’s because of our young players developing not only in the minor leagues, but at the major league level.” At the same time, he said he’ll be looking to “upgrade the team in the short term or long term via trade.” The Phils’ baseball ops point man indicated that he will indeed be willing to pursue pure rental options, though the organization will also need to “make sure that whatever trades we’re contemplating are appropriately balancing now with the future.”

  • It’s still unknown just how aggressive the Phillies will be in their first season of contention under the current front office regime. The club is one of the most interesting buy-side organizations to watch. Jon Heyman of Fancred dangles one intriguing possibility, tweeting that he’s “hearing some chatter” regarding the possible pursuit of Rangers lefty Cole Hamels. That said, Heyman also notes that he’s “unsure how serious the chatter is.” The long-time Philadelphia hurler is a clear trade candidate, though his big remaining guarantee, 2019 option, and 20-team no-trade protection figure to complicate things from the Rangers’ perspective. And it’s fair to wonder if the Phillies would set their sights on a more significant addition if they try to add to their rotation.
  • The Marlins don’t have many clear trade pieces, but certainly have a number of possibilities. Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald provides an update on the organization’s approach, writing that there’s a willingness to deal players who are within a few seasons of free agency. At the same time, per the report, the Marlins are no longer especially motivated by trimming salary — which isn’t to say that won’t be a notable consideration, especially for higher-priced players such as Brad Ziegler. The veteran reliever is “most likely to be moved” of all the club’s players, Jackson notes. Of even greater interest, the team’s most valuable asset — catcher J.T. Realmuto — is said to be viewed internally as an extension target as much as a potential trade chip. It’s hardly clear whether a long-term arrangement is a realistic possibility, but there’s little question the Marlins will (and should) seek a hefty return for the mid-prime backstop.
  • While it likely won’t have much of an impact on the deadline, the Mets finally got some promising news yesterday on Yoenis Cespedes, who has been on ice since the middle of May. The veteran outfielder began running, as Mike Puma of the New York Post was among those to tweet, which would seem to suggest that his ailing hip is feeling better. It’s a lost season for the Mets, and Cespedes won’t likely feature as a trade candidate, but that doesn’t mean his return isn’t significant. With salaries of $29MM and $29.5MM for the coming two seasons, Cespedes will be a key part of the picture for the New York organization as it navigates a tricky stretch.
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  1. of9376

    7 years ago

    It’s rather obvious that Cespedes doesn’t want to play for the Mutts anymore. He especially didn’t appreciate Alderson calling him out on his “injuries”. They would be wise to eat 20mil and trade him.

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    • lesterdnightfly

      7 years ago

      Rumor has it that Ces would like to play for Bethpage Black.

      Reply
  2. Garza Nathan

    7 years ago

    Realmuto, Conley and Barraclough to the Astros for J.D.Davis, A.J.Reed, Yordan Alveraz, Derek Fisher, J.B. Bukauskus and Corbin Martin

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    • andrewgauldin

      7 years ago

      Never in hell.

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    • jb19

      7 years ago

      I think the Marlins would want Tucker or Whitley for Realmuto. So any deal including Realmuto has to include one of them. I would say that’s probably fair to make that demand too. Coming from an Astros fan.

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    • Houston We Have A Solution

      7 years ago

      LOL you’re not getting that package without Kyle Tucker AND Forrest Whitley and even then the Marlins could fetch a better prospect haul trading Realmuto and Barraclough to separate teams.

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    • Garza Nathan

      7 years ago

      Alot of delusional Marlins fans as usual. If that was the case he would have gotten that package already. Good luck with that

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      • Houston We Have A Solution

        7 years ago

        There’s a difference between actual price, expectant price, and low offers.

        Realmuto alone is worth 1 of tucker or whitley. Marlins could be asking for both or astros could be refusing to include them in any deal.

        Either way a deal hasn’t been done for 1 of those 2 reasons- marlins overpricing or astros underpricing.

        There’s also the chance marlins are letting teams competing for his services drive up the market value waiting closer to july 31st for a team to overpay

        Brewers, Nationals, Braves, Red Sox, all have interest in Realmuto.

        The braves for instance have a plethora of pitching prospects to deal from
        1 of kyle wright or ian anderson or Koby Allard
        1 of Max Fried or joey wentz
        Christian Pache
        Touki Touissant
        Anderson, Wentz, Pache, and Touissant would be a fair deal for Realmuto to the Braves while keeping Soroka, Gohara, Wright, Allard, Fried.

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        • Mjm117

          7 years ago

          Only delusional one is you Garza Nathan if you believe the Fish would accept or won’t find a better deal than the low ball offer you’re proposing.

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        • Mjm117

          7 years ago

          Ian, Wentz, Touki and pa he would be a great deal for JT

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  3. bobtillman

    7 years ago

    The only way the Mets move nut-case Cespedes is to attach him to either Jake or Thor……which considering where they are, they might consider…..

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  4. jorge78

    7 years ago

    Should Cespedes be a full time DH?

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    • Caseys.Partner

      7 years ago

      “Should Cespedes be a full time DH?”

      His wrist would start to hurt.

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      • MetsYankeesRedSox

        7 years ago

        Needs to increase yoga and dabble in transcendental meditation.

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      • Ofabian

        7 years ago

        Cespedes is always hurt omg

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  5. mikeyank55

    7 years ago

    I think Ces will turn his season around. He told the guys at his country club in Florida that it was too hot to golf the next couple of months and so he was going back to NY.

    He had tried to get the club to install lighting so that he could play at night, but they didn’t budge.

    Plus his golf buddy Thor had to go back to work as well.

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    • frankthetank1985

      7 years ago

      Crickets…..

      Reply
  6. Philliesfan4life

    7 years ago

    Im calling it now, if the nationals don’t turn it around before the deadline. Don’t be shocked if Harper is not on the trading block.

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  7. flyerzfan12

    7 years ago

    Hamels makes a ton of sense to me for the Phillies. Given what he’s owed, his performance, and the ability to block trades to 20 teams, the price in terms of prospects shouldn’t be high assuming the Phillies pay his entire salary/buyout. That’s exactly the type of guy they should go after in terms of a rental.

    Of course Machado would be incredible, but makes no sense to go after. The Phillies aren’t one piece away from being a top contender. But adding a piece like Hamels or a bullpen piece can improve the team now in their wild card race without hurting them in the long run by giving up top prospects.

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    • Philliesfan4life

      7 years ago

      If they could add Hamels , a bullpen arm plus a bat like Beltre or Moustakus, I have them in first place by the deadline. They are that good this year.

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      • PopeMarley

        7 years ago

        What are your thoughts on North Korea.

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        • MetsYankeesRedSox

          7 years ago

          MLB expansion?

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        • PopeMarley

          7 years ago

          Probably stand a better chance then Montreal.

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      • Ofabian

        7 years ago

        Really Hamels & Moustakus and they would be in first place
        OMG

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    • DannyQ3913

      7 years ago

      As bad as the bullpen is include Diekman in the deal as well

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    • danlcat

      7 years ago

      Say…Franco,Eichoff,Cousins get us Hamels,Diekman AND Beltre? If conrol over cole,Diekman for the nd year ,a resign,keep or resign,trade of Beltre where he can DH…next year…and,if they could,backfill at 3rd with Manny,id do that. i think both sides would
      Texas gets younger,less money as a rebuild plus they dump salary! id do it

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      • WubbaLubbaDubDub

        7 years ago

        In the abstract, I’m not sure I’d want any of those pieces if I’m the Phils, but I’d pull the trigger in a heartbeat for *that* pu-pu platter.

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  8. Judge Judy

    7 years ago

    Sheffield, Abreu, Medina, Florial and Wade for Degrom.

    They can ask all they want it’s about what they can get.

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    • Philliesfan4life

      7 years ago

      I don’t think that is gonna happen, If Torres or Andujar is not involved then it’s not gonna be a deal

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      • User 4245925809

        7 years ago

        Exactly. Not that Thor/ Snyd as good as Sale was/is, but he brought 2 high end kids better than anyone in that proposal and club control about the same.

        Mets aren’t that stupid to give up front line starters for middling prospects with Sheffield a #2-3 at BEST prospect as the headliner.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          7 years ago

          “Mets aren’t that stupid to give up front line starters for middling prospects” why don’t you do some research on those prospects for making such an uninformed post..wow

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        • Steven Chinwood

          7 years ago

          Hey johnny MLB.com is a great tool to correct your lack prospect knowledge.

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        • mikeyank55

          7 years ago

          Hey Cereal. In this case I disagree. The Mets are that stupid. There will be utter chaos at the deadline in Flushing. The theee stooges will back fight and undercut each other lobbying Jeff. He will then discuss with senile Fred who will get sentimental at the last minute and make an irrational decision, like approving the Cespedes deal.

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        • Bald Vinny

          7 years ago

          Johnny….. there’s at least 3 Future Hall of Famers in that group.

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    • thegreatcerealfamine

      7 years ago

      That’s about as bad a trade proposal as I’ve seen so far, at least in the top three.

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    • Houston We Have A Solution

      7 years ago

      Frazier- medina- Abreu- Acevado makes more sense for Degrom. Deform will get as close as a chris sale package as it gets.

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  9. Z-A 2

    7 years ago

    The easiest way to rebuild in baseball would be to sign guys to 1 year deals for over market value, then trade them for good prospects while eating most of thecontract. It’s like a loophole.

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    • callingoutdummies247

      7 years ago

      Yup, cause most players worth a damn would sign one year deals. Loop hole closed

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      • Z-A 2

        7 years ago

        Lol, lot of guys were on the market late this year. Good players. Guys like Mike Moustakas. 1 yr w an option.

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    • danlcat

      7 years ago

      Has worked for Phils. That and dumping aging guys prospects. papelbon,byrd,rollins,utley,have brought returns. should have brought back hellickson,morton ESPECIALLY,bucholtz after we paid to tehab them.

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  10. formerlyz

    7 years ago

    Reasons not to sell Realmuto are the same as they were with Yelich, arguably not even as obvious b/c of Yelichs great contract, and yet, he got traded for literally absolutely nothing. The Marlins have made abhorrent trades over the last several years, either giving up way too much, or getting very little back. As a Marlins fan, I have no reason to think they’ll get anything even decent if/when he gets moved. And at this point, I’m not sure it makes sense to keep him b/c the moves they made/didnt make turned a possible 1-3 year turn around into a probable at least 5-7 years or more, unless they get lucky, so it would make more sense to get more talent into the organization, despite how long it took to finally get someone behind the plate

    Barraclough needs to be moved asap

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