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West Notes: Beltre, Maeda, Dodgers Pen, Franmil

By Jeff Todd and Steve Adams | August 16, 2018 at 10:46pm CDT

Rangers third baseman Adrian Beltre doesn’t seem to believe his latest hamstring injury is a particularly significant one, but nevertheless says it is impacting his thinking as he weighs whether to play another season. As Drew Davison of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram writes, Beltre emphasized that the hammy troubles have been with him for his entire career. But, he said, the latest tweak “brings the question of, ’Is this going to keep happening more often? Is it worth it to fight it back? Is it a sign that maybe it’s time to get close to say goodbye to you guys?'” While the remark certainly could be read as a suggestion that Beltre is preparing for the end of his playing career, it also clearly indicates he’s still pondering a continuation.

Here’s more from out west …

  • It appears that Dodgers righty Kenta Maeda is not exactly thrilled with the team’s decision to utilize him as a reliever. As Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times wrote recently, Maeda artfully avoided any direct criticism of the move, but also declined to offer any indication that he is truly amenable to pitching from the pen. That’s understandable, given that he carries a 3.85 ERA in 110 innings on the season and certainly seems worthy of a MLB rotation spot. It probably doesn’t help that his incentive-heavy contract pays more if he racks up innings, though Maeda also tells Hernandez that the money isn’t an issue for him. While it isn’t hard to see why this is a disappointing development for the 30-year-old, it’s also understandable for a club that has six other starters with even better earned run averages and also has experienced significant bullpen issues of late.
  • Despite those recent struggles in the relief corps, Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman tells Bill Shaikin of the Los Angeles Times that he remains bullish on the pen’s outlook. With some hurlers expected to return from health issues — none more important than closer Kenley Jansen — the organization seemingly thinks it has enough pieces on hand to get things done. Indeed, Friedman even says he anticipates that the relief unit “will be a strength” down the stretch. That, per Friedman, is why the club set “a high bar for what [it was] looking to acquire” at the trade deadline. When nothing sufficiently intriguing came together, says the club’s top baseball exec, the decision was made to focus instead on boosting the ability to score runs. It certainly does not sound as if the Dodgers are particularly inclined to pursue further reliever acquisitions in August, though perhaps that still cannot be ruled out either.
  • The Padres gambled in this past winter’s Rule 5 Draft by leaving slugger Franmil Reyes unprotected, writes MLB.com’s AJ Cassavell, and the towering outfielder is now forcing himself into the team’s long-term plans. Reyes acknowledges that he was “disappointed” to be left off the 40-man roster, though Cassavell reports that there was some strategy involved in that roll of the dice; Reyes underwent minor surgery on his hand not long before the deadline to set 40-man rosters in advance of the Rule 5, and the Padres felt it would lessen the chances of him being taken. That proved to be the case, and while Reyes’ overall .278 OBP is an eyesore, he’s demonstrated prodigious power and cut back on his strikeouts (admittedly, in a tiny sample) since returning from the minors — though he has also encountered a particularly dry spell of late. Between Reyes, Franchy Cordero, Manuel Margot, Wil Myers, Hunter Renfroe and Travis Jankowski (among others), the Friars’ front office will have some decisions to make this winter.
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  1. GOP Lizards

    7 years ago

    I guess Friedman says the politically correct thing for the newspapers, b/c he cannot possibly believe it to be true.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      7 years ago

      How is completely avoiding taking ownership of the problem he created “politically correct?” This is just more typical Friedman babble of the kind that infuriates fans, who on more than one occasion he’s told to go away and not bother him while he plays the big boy game. He never takes responsibility for anything. No accountability, no communication, no tact whatsoever.

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      • Cam

        7 years ago

        Oh no, he put faith in the guys he has, to do the job!

        I’m not even going to acknowledge the OP, his Friedman trolling borders on needing a restraining order.

        But otherwise, I think people need to reserve judgement. Who knows what the asking prices were on the market. Freidman built a Team that was a few Darvish tipped pitches away from winning the whole thing. He has a fair idea what he’s doing.

        He doesn’t owe you, or anyone else, some empty words about responsibility. It’s grind time, his focus is on the Dodgers, not appeasing fans who desperately need their views validated.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          I’ve seen enough to render a judgement. The focus here from Opening Day was on keeping payroll under $197M. And you know what, I get that. This is why I’ve been saying all season long that if ownership tells us this is a reset season, that they’re keeping that lid on to go all in next year, I’m not necessarily thrilled, but I understand. But trying to tell us the flawed team they built is really okay despite all of the evidence to the contrary, then that’s hoping just we’re too dumb to notice. And that’s just insulting.

          So no, not empty words. Real words, on behalf of the paying customers. You know, the ones without whom he doesn’t have a job?

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        • Bocephus

          7 years ago

          “He has a fair idea what he’s doing” and why is that? How many rings does he have exactly? How much winning experience does he actually have in that position? Playing with the big boys in management calls for total accountability.

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        • marijuasher

          7 years ago

          Anonymous people calling for accountability of others is one of those Internet trend things that gets me real excited about the future.

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        • Bocephus

          7 years ago

          I bet it’s been quite some time since you got excited.

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        • bigkempin

          7 years ago

          The flawed team with arguably more depth than any team. They don’t really have any holes on offense and their rotation is so deep that they can move 2 solid SP’s to the BP. You’re a glass half empty guy.

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        • GOP Lizards

          7 years ago

          Yeah getting Darvish over Verlander was a great idea.

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        • thedarkbutler

          7 years ago

          Guys chill. Look, on paper the Dodgers should be dominant this season. We barely changed anything as offense goes and lost some bullpen. We suffered a giant plague of injuries and some yips at the plate. Front office could not predict this. They spend their days in the office talking about averages and how these guys will fit into the clubhouse and their bank account. On paper we have an incredible offense and a decent staff. Just no one is producing.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          You should read the article I linked below. It answers your question about what could and could not have been predicted.

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      • Senioreditor

        7 years ago

        Can you at least wait until they don’t succeed this year to chastised him? I agree it doesn’t look good and he’s made a few questionable moves but they did make the WS last year and who knows how this season will end. Everyone was happy with 104 wins last year and they ultimately failed. Maybe they’ll sneak in this year and win it all? I doubt it but you never know.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          I didn’t get on Friedman’s case last season. This year is a different story because the hard rule they’d clearly made for themselves from the start was not to exceed the luxury tax. This was bound to produce a team with holes and those holes have been apparent from the first week of the season. My objection here is Friedman thinking he can talk over the heads of the fans who can see the flaws with their own eyes. A little candor would go a long way here.

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        • dimitrios in la

          7 years ago

          BlueSky you make a lot of sense. I’m an O’s Fan (despite my name here) but if payroll was such an issue heading into the season, why didn’t he/they trade some from the surplus of starters this late offseason? It seems it would have given them roster/payroll flexibility now, perhaps even a chance to fortify the bullpen now (despite AF’s comments TW which are really just wishful thinking)?

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        • Mattimeo09

          7 years ago

          If a team has to rely on spending over 200M just to win the division, you’re a bad team.
          As soon as Dodgers/Yankees stop spending ridiculous amounts of money, they have much worse seasons. Meanwhile the Indians had 1 less win than the Dodgers last year & Houston beat the Dodgers in the World Series. Both teams had payrolls well under 200M

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          Friedman had plenty of opportunities to improve the bullpen but he passed on all of them, and when he finally had something to say about why his bullpen stinks and why he did nothing to fix it, his answers are vague and mealy-mouthed corporate-speak. Then he had the nerve to say that all this losing makes him not a fun guy to be around at home. Aw, poor guy!

          He thinks the fans don’t notice that they don’t seem to figure in here at all. At least some of us do notice. In fact the Dodgers are now being booed by the hometown fans, and not for no reason. If I was Andrew Friedman, I’d take that as a sign of something I really need to address. But that isn’t his style. His style is trying to snow us into believing it’s all okay, when anyone with eyes to see knows that it is far from okay.

          You can see the value of making sense. Lots of downvotes and snark, but hardly anyone engaging in an actual discussion.

          Anyway, some observations on this mess from Plaschke::

          latimes.com/sports/dodgers/la-sp-dodgers-bullpen-p…

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        • frankiegxiii

          7 years ago

          So if a team has to tank to win does that make them a better team? Or does tanking “not exist”?

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        • iverbure

          7 years ago

          Lol wut? The Yankees were on pace to win over a 100 wins before Judge went down with a injury.

          Dodgers are right in the mix for a playoff spot despite several of their players batting heart issues.

          You people that think spending equals wins are something else.

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      • GOP Lizards

        7 years ago

        Ok, let me simplify it for you. Praising the pen even saying “it will be a strength” when all signs point otherwise I’d say at the very least is the politically correct thing to say when they’ve blown multiple games in such a short period of time, games when LA had the lead going into 8th or 9th. Granted putting Kike in to pitch extra innings (tantamount to giving up) is not exactly the pen’s fault. Friedman has failed absolutely failed in addressing a problem that was present at the outset.

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      • Kenleyfornia74

        7 years ago

        Take accountability for what? Friedman has set this franchise up to succeed for years. Traded Kemp and Dee Gordon as soon as he came in (which caused fans to freak out) and won both those deals. And didn’t re sign Hanley Ramirez. Traded a guy with domestic violence issues for Alex Wood in his first years. Held onto guys like Cody Bellinger, Seager and key farm system pieces to keep the pipeline relevant. His drafts have been really good too. Only bad trades were Josh Fields and Tony Watson because they will regret the prospects he got rid of in those deals. Avoided signing huge contracts the team will be stuck with. McCarthey and Kazmir were absolute busts but they were short teams risks that were going to expire this year. As opposed to 1 bad Jeff Samardzija contract. He should have got another pen arm this season but that doesnt justify the amount of garbage he gets on here.

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        • GOP Lizards

          7 years ago

          And preferred Darvish to Verlander.

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        • Kenleyfornia74

          7 years ago

          Maybe that has something to do with the fact Verlander is owed 30 million a year until 2020. Acquiring him would have put them so far over the tax with no hope of re setting it any time soon

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          I don’t see the point ticking down a laundry list of everything he’s done right and wrong. I see a number of pluses and have said so when I’ve seen them, you should know that. But what has gone right doesn’t blind me to the minuses. What we are talking about here specifically is being accountable for building a weak bullpen at the start of the season and doing nothing to fix it along the way. Simple as that. When the hometown fans are booing their own team, a little accountability might be in order. Being accountable isn’t just about taking credit for things that go right, it’s also about accepting responsibility when things go wrong. This is what grownups do. Some of us have noticed that this concept isn’t in Friedman’s vocabulary, and it is not to his credit.

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        • Kenleyfornia74

          7 years ago

          Didnt you hear when Bill Shakin asked him about Roberts job security in May and Friedman said ” its not his fault its mine”. Thats as clear as day and exactly what you claim you wanted to hear.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          Oh, that interview, where he said nothing really needed to be done then just as he says nothing needs to be done now. On taking responsibility, this is what he actually said in response to repeated questions about whether Roberts was in danger of being fired:

          “I’m very comfortable in saying that, if we had to assign blame at this point, it should be me who is taking that, and not Doc.”

          IF. That was in May. So are we assigning blame yet?

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        • Kenleyfornia74

          7 years ago

          Thats him being accountable. What do you want him to do fire himself? If they miss the playoffs i guarantee he will tale some kind of blame. He is not going to say anything now because their fate is not sealed yet

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          But it wasn’t, really. He made the same lame excuses for doing nothing then as he is making now. Strangely enough he is also continuing to use the same nonsensical analogy of “clicking on cylinders,” if only to tell us how little his thinking has changed. It’s only a small iceberg, no need to change course. I’ve already said what I think would be a demonstration of accountability. Nothing too hard for most people, but apparently impossible for Friedman. The fans will continue to boo and he won’t even acknowledge that he understands why.

          As for guarantees of who will take blame, I would not count on Friedman taking any of it. A far more likely outcome of failure would be firing Dave Roberts. I think we both know his head will be on the block, not Friedman’s.

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        • Kenleyfornia74

          7 years ago

          The cylinders thing seems true to me. Suarez second half ERA was 7 and Dodgers got nothing off him. Bettis got rocked the start before the Dodgers. He dominated them. The bullpen takes all the flack but you have to score to win and the offensive efforts during the losing streaks was just as pathetic as the bullpen. They need the team to be firing on all 3 cylinders to win.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          Partly it was the “clicking” thing that struck me as sadly accurate. As you say, the expression is “firing” on cylinders. If your cylinders click your engine might be ready to seize up. A little pedantic I realize but to me it’s just a function of his tendency to babble incomprehensibly. Even if you like his work you have to agree it would be better for him to not speak to the media if he doesn’t have more to communicate. Maybe Zaidi can be out front instead. He could not possibly be worse at it than Friedman.

          Anyway, exhausting this analogy, this team was created with one bum cylinder. We have reason to hope the others are workable, but that one needed to be overhauled from the start. Is the mechanic on duty?

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        • fox471 Dave

          7 years ago

          Agreed!

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        • fox471 Dave

          7 years ago

          Agreeing to someone else not the Friedman rant.

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        • BlueSkyLA

          7 years ago

          Call it a “rant” so you can avoid responding? Nice all-purpose method of avoidance.

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        • fox471 Dave

          7 years ago

          Must have missed your praise for Friedman. Will go back and review.

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        • fox471 Dave

          7 years ago

          You are the one “fan” I never avoid responding to. The tiresome excoriating of Friedman day after day, however, precludes response.

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  2. nutznboltz

    7 years ago

    Meyers and renfroe are strikeout machines. They must go. The Padres are trying to trade Meyers, but no takers. Too bad Dickerson keeps getting hurt because I think he could be the best of them all. I will say this one more time; the Padres have the most overrated minor league system in mlb.

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    • lowtalker1

      7 years ago

      Who is Meyers ?

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      • nutznboltz

        7 years ago

        Will Meyers.

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        • lowtalker1

          7 years ago

          Who is meyers

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        • keepinthafaithsd1

          7 years ago

          Is that oscars cousin?

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    • scogan

      7 years ago

      Go home troll

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    • juicemane

      7 years ago

      Yeah but Franmil is also a strikeout machine. Myers is a potential 30/30 guy.
      #watchbaseball

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      • lowtalker1

        7 years ago

        Yes I agree
        Fran has no future here. Maybe on an al club but it hurts my eyes to watch him play right field

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        • alexryanperry

          7 years ago

          DH coming to an NL near you.

          The Franimal actually has intangible value when compared to a guy like Renfroe, who is essentially the same player but without : a huge personality, Spanish-language skills (Tatis, Mejia, Urias, Morejon, Patino, etc., are all core pieces from overseas), and a dope San Diego tattoo.

          I wouldn’t take him over a demonstrably better player when that time comes, but I think he has a place moving forward, especially as DH. He hits bombs and is only 23.

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      • padreforlife

        7 years ago

        Potential my ass. He’s 28 he is what he is overpaid average player

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    • Senioreditor

      7 years ago

      Why don’t we wait a year or two more before making such pronouncements

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  3. SixFlagsMagicPadres

    7 years ago

    They’ll have to do something about that outfield logjam. Maybe an offseason trade will be in the works. They could combine some of those outfielders with rule-5 eligible guys.

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    • juicemane

      7 years ago

      A trade you say?! No Way!!! Not in a million ye…..wait that has happened nearly every offseason for every team for the past 30 years…

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      • SixFlagsMagicPadres

        7 years ago

        Well, technically they don’t have to trade any of them. They could do nothing and option guys like Reyes, Or just cut some of these guys (like Spangenberg).

        You seem like a very aggressive person.

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  4. HalosHeavenJJ

    7 years ago

    The Hosmer signing continues to look worse.

    Myers should be playing first, that keeps him healthy and frees up an outfield spot while saving boatloads of money.

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    • padreforlife

      7 years ago

      Myers and Hosmer suck fire Preller

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      • lowtalker1

        7 years ago

        Go home troll no one likes you

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        • padreforlife

          7 years ago

          Overpaid and suck

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  5. bleacherbum

    7 years ago

    The three big things I think the Padres do this offseason:

    The first thing they will do is trade for Sonny Gray and try to rebuild him. Get him in a place similar to Oakland that doesn’t have the big lights like NY. Maybe the Padres can exchange bullpen help for Robertson and Britton departing.

    Next, I think they sign Donaldson. A big bat when healthy with fit nicely in between Myers and Hosmer. Maybe he takes an incentive laden deal? I know he and Hosmer are good friends, maybe Preller takes a shot on catching more lighting in a bottle with him. Myers can give him more days off at 3rd now that he has show the ability to be serviceable there.

    Lastly, sign Trevor Rosenthal. Push Yates back to the 8th, Stammen is in NY from the Gray trade, so Stock/Wingenter/Castillo get the 7th inning in 2019. I’d also move Strahm to the rotation, his stuff is really good.

    If you can get Donaldson for 2 years 27.5M and Rosenthal I can see signing a one year prove it deal, 1 year 8.5M. That coupled with giving up Stammen and a prospect for Gray. I’d also advocate for a trade of Reyes plus Spangenberg and Robbie Erlin for Danny Duffy.

    I just hope they don’t blow the farm for Syndergaard, Fulmer or Strohman.

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    • Bocephus

      7 years ago

      Yankees are gonna want more for Gray than a couple BP pieces. If Gray is as fixable with the change of scenery as you say than prospects would be more in line, because NY has in house replacements for Robertson and Britton.

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      • Dodgethis

        7 years ago

        Also, Oakland is in th3 bay area, which is the north end of the silicon valley, which is a gigantic market with lots of pressure.

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        • beersy

          7 years ago

          The bay area may be a large market, but you can’t compare the pressure/scrutiny a Yankee player is under to what a Giant or A’s player deals with.

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      • Jbigz12

        7 years ago

        If the Yankees are a contender moving gray for major league help makes much more sense. When your contending you tend to want to help your ML team, not Scranton.

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    • phnxdark23

      7 years ago

      If Donaldson can’t get more money than that – which I have a very hard time believing despite his issues this year – I don’t see why he wouldn’t go to a team that’s truly contending, as there are quite a few that could use him at that bargain price. Atlanta, Boston, Arizona, Cleveland…if you’re taking a “make-good” deal, it makes a lot more sense to do it on a contender, rather than a team in full rebuild mode.

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      • Niekro

        7 years ago

        All though the circumstances are much different, I think too many teams are kicking themselves for missing out on JD Martinez, Donaldson is going to get some good offers if he is reasonable.

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    • padreforlife

      7 years ago

      Big vibe last night at Petco

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    • flippinbats79

      7 years ago

      FYI I’m almost 100% sure that the Jays give Donaldson a QO. If he turns down $18m+ then any team signing him would have to give up a pick plus $. I’m not sure anyone wants to do that. The Jays will hope he bounces back and then trade him. This FO is all about asset management so I doubt they just let him walk.

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    • bilak33

      7 years ago

      I’m not sold on Rosenthal, otherwise this is probably the best idea I’ve seen in here. I’d be ok with depleting the farm a bit for Thor or DeGrom honestly, but no others. Not sure if all of this would really work, but it’s definitely the type of thinking the Padres should have. Here’s hoping AJ reads this!

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      • bleacherbum

        7 years ago

        Rosenthal has shown he can be lights out at times and if he is willing to pitch for a year in PETCO I think his numbers would be legit. It’s an opportunity to catch lighting in a bottle. If the team sucks again you flip him at the deadline and re-coup value.

        I prefer Jose Iglesias this time around on a 1 year deal. Bridge the gap to Tatis Jr.

        I’d rather call on Strohman or Fulmer than pay the price for Syndergaard or DeGrom. You saw what Pittsburgh had to pay for Archer. Ouch.

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          How stupid would Preller look if he traded for Fulmer?

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        • bleacherbum

          7 years ago

          Soooo stupid. Hudson Potts should be him right now. Sigh

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        • padreforlife

          7 years ago

          He’s Preller stupid his middle name. 226 mil for Hosmer and Myers combined

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      • RedRooster

        7 years ago

        Chris Archer and his 4.1 ERA over the past 2 and a half seasons netted the Rays Tyler Glasnow, Austin Meadows and Shane Baz. deGrom and Thor are actually good. One can only imagine what they’d cost. Especially with no one really wanting to trade with Preller.

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    • juicemane

      7 years ago

      Reyes plus Spangenberg and Robbie Erlin for Danny Duffy.
      I dont think any team is remotely interested in these 3 padre players.

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      • bleacherbum

        7 years ago

        Then you can keep Duffy and that contract throughout your rebuild.

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    • keepinthafaithsd1

      7 years ago

      Usually i agree and like a lot of things you say on here bud…but i think you had a little extra friday sauce. Where in the hell are they going to put Donaldson? The pads need to do everything they can to keep Myers at 3b if not he’ll ride the pine on the dl for the rest of those 5 years. I kinda agree with landing Gray but i dont see NY giving him up cheap.

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    • padreforlife

      7 years ago

      Why would they sign Donaldson lol

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  6. bleacherbum

    7 years ago

    2019 Starting lineup:

    CF- Margot
    2B- Urias
    LF- Myers/Mejia
    1B- Hosmer
    3B-Donaldson
    RF-Cordero/Renfroe
    C -Mejia/Hedges
    SS- Galvis/Hechavarria/Iglesias, to start the season on a one/year deal until Tatis is ready.
    P

    Rotation:

    1. Duffy
    2. Gray
    3. Richard
    4. Lucchesi
    5. Strahm/Lauer/Nix/Perdomo

    Lamet due back early in the season from TJ. Rea -also another year removed from surgery, possible resurgence from him.

    Quantrill and Paddack next to be infused to to rotation through the system.

    There is enough arms in the pen even if one of Stammen or Yates is moved. Bring in Rosenthal cheap and motivated for a 2017 Rockies Greg Holland potential situation.

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    • CheeseHeadPadre

      7 years ago

      Wow, kudos to the legwork and analysis. This comment is the reason why I read comments on this site.
      That team likely doesn’t push for contention, but there’s some chance there, and a lot of opportunity for trade chips to emerge.
      I like it. That would be the most exciting Padres team in a very long time with the number one farm system in baseball backing it up.
      I’m interested to see how Preller approaches this off-season, the general vibe I get is they’re starting to get impatient but I agree that I absolutely don’t want to see them pay a premium for a front of the rotation starter. At least not this year.
      If we go the way of the Brewers and just randomly have a contending team then sure, go in a bit more but we’re likely 2 years out from becoming that team.

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      • bleacherbum

        7 years ago

        I mean you have to add without hurting what you’ve created right? The Braves did a really good job of that at this years trade deadline for example. They didn’t make the sexy splash trade for Archer or Machado but they got quality in other ways. Coming out with Gausman, Brach and Venters was very creative and cost effective but most importantly didn’t cost them Soroka, Wright, Touissant, Anderson, etc.

        Padres need that mentality this offseason. Add but don’t hurt what you’ve created. Adding Sonny Gray for (Craig Stammen plus mid level prospects) and Danny Duffy for (rule V bubble guys plus take on cash from Duffy’s deal) to anchor the rotation via trade doesn’t hurt the farm much at all. Not nearly as much as if they went out and got Syndergaard and Fulmer.

        Then you add a guy who is hungry to prove himself after injury in Rosenthal. You make him the closer and maximize potential like I referred to the Holland 2.0 of 17’

        Lastly, MOVE STRAHM to the rotation. He has lights out stuff. He will be a good solid #4 in my opinion.

        I love the flexibility Mejia will give this roster as well by not having to carry a tradition back up catcher. The Padres have always been grandfather in their thinking and have done that. To have a hybrid guy who can play other positions while not not starting at Catcher gives the team another roster spot to utilize essentially. It’s a luxury but SD should take advantage.

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        • padreforlife

          7 years ago

          Can Mejia play a game before you assume he’s good.

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        • bleacherbum

          7 years ago

          Knock on wood

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          Can you make a smart, relevant comment?

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        • bosoxforlife

          7 years ago

          The third catcher who can play other positions is a tremendous asset. It takes the handcuffs off the manager and he can pinch hit or pinch run for the catcher who starts the game. That is why Swihart, even at present form, was more valuable to the Red Sox when the decision was made to send Hanley to the scrap heap.

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    • Bocephus

      7 years ago

      What’s that payroll look like?

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      • bleacherbum

        7 years ago

        Payroll is 99 million dollars right now. There is room to add progressively and smart. Myers is cheap right now and gets more expensive soon. Stammen’s salary would wash would Gray’s in my suggested trade. Padres would assume some but not all of Danny Duffy’s contract, could see the payroll for the 19’ club to be around 125-130 million.

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        • Bocephus

          7 years ago

          Do you think they’d actually go there?

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        • juicemane

          7 years ago

          if any team could trade 3 minus WAR players and only take on part of Duffy’s contract….I would say 30 out of 30 teams would be interested…

          Dude this is pie in the sky, its not going to happen. Duffy’s road ERA is sub two over the past couple months. in the AL! only pitcher better on the road in the AL past couple months….some guy named Chris Sale. and only one better on the road in the NL…some guy named Max Scherzer.

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        • Jbigz12

          7 years ago

          I don’t understand the thought of Franmil Reyes being a significant piece in a trade. 229/270/457 Slash line and he grades out as a negative in the outfield. K’s 33% of the time and when he does actually put the ball in play 47% of those are groundballs. That isn’t the profile of someone who is very interesting..Looks a lot like Domingo Santana without the positive baserunning.

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        • bleacherbum

          7 years ago

          I didn’t know he was performing that well this year. Anyways, the point remains the same. The Padres have a lot of rule V eligible guys that would surely entice Kansas City couple with a lot of guys at the top of the system who are stuck in log jams. Asuaje, Austin Allen, Josh Naylor, etc.

          Kansas City would be smart to pick through SD’s system, it won’t be top 10 talent but I could definitely see a few guys in the 13-25 range on the top 30.

          He would be the left handed mentor that Lucchesi and Lauer can really learn from. Not Clayton Richard.

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        • lasershow45

          7 years ago

          Why wouldn’t KC just wait and then draft the fringe 40 man guys the Padres would be wanting to trade? It’s not like KCs 40 man will be locked up this offseason

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        • bleacherbum

          7 years ago

          They aren’t necessary fringe.

          The Padres can make room for them if need be, it just seems there are more pressing needs. I believe there are guys who are already up they can part with to create room before giving up on guys before you even got to see a glimpse.

          Got to figure: Ellis, Galvis, Pirela, Mitchell, Córdoba, Guerra are the 5 most likely to not return to the 40 man next year. That allows Quantrill, Gettys, Logan Allen, Luis Urias and Brad Wieck and Anderson Espinoza 40 man protection.

          That leaves Austin Allen, Josh Naylor and a handful of interesting arms up for debate.

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        • RedRooster

          7 years ago

          Stop saying we have to protect Quantrill, Logan Allen and Wieck. Quantrill and Logan Allen don’t have to be protected this offseason and Brad Wieck already was protected last year.

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        • padreforlife

          7 years ago

          “Love the flexibility of Mejia” 0 MLB AB’s another beauty

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  7. bleacherbum

    7 years ago

    Apologies for the long winded answer but the Padres will make room if they need to, but let’s say Kansas City is like look. You don’t need Naylor or Gettys, the Padres agree and deal them willingly. Instead of “trying” to catch them in the Rule V draft, and even if you did get lucky and got one of them, you will now stunt their growth with an early entrance into the MLB before they are ready.

    It just makes sense to acquire them outright. They then immediately become your property. Because if they stink right off the bat which most position player Rule V guys do, then you can’t option them without losing them. If you acquire a handful of them then you can option them up and down whenever and you can continue to let them develop naturally.

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