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MLB Announces Implementation Of Pitch Clock For Spring Training Games

By Steve Adams | February 22, 2019 at 2:30pm CDT

Major League Baseball has formally announced the implementation of a 20-second pitch clock to be tested during Spring Training games. Jeff Passan of ESPN reported minutes prior to the announcement that it’d be made today. Per the league’s announcement, there has been no decision made regarding the potential implementation of the pitch clock during the upcoming regular season, though Passan tweeted that there is a “very real possibility” of that happening.

Early in Spring Training, as players adjust to the latest pace-of-play tactic put in place by commissioner Rob Manfred, there will not be any ball or strike penalties for pitch-clock violations. By the second week of games, umpires will begin to issue warnings, and eventually, umps “will be instructed to begin assessing ball-strike penalties for violations.”

Notably, the pitch clock comes with numerous restrictions. It does not apply to the first pitch of a plate appearance, and the pitcher need only start his motion before the clock expires rather than deliver the actual pitch. Hitters will be required to be in the batter’s box by the time there are five seconds remaining on the clock, and the clock will reset when the pitcher receives the ball back from the catcher.

On pickoff plays, the clock will reset when the pitcher once again receives the ball from the infielder to whom he threw. The clock will also reset if pitchers feint a pickoff motion or step off the rubber with a runner on base. Mound visits will also cause the clock to reset. If an umpire calls or grants time, the pitch clock will not be used on the following pitch (unless time was called to swap out a ball thrown in the dirt).

Manfred has the ability to unilaterally implement the pitch clock for the 2019 regular season even if he does not come to an agreement on its implementation with the players’ union. However, Passan notes — as does today’s release announcing the clock — that the league will continue to negotiate with the players in search of an agreement on the matter.

Whether the clock is implemented in 2019 or not, today’s announcement serves as a harbinger for change in 2020 and beyond. Manfred has made improving the pace-of-play one of the focal points of his tenure as the league’s commissioner and has regularly put initiatives into place — most recently limiting the number of mound visits allowed per game and instituting automatic intentional walks. The pitch clock would be a more dramatic measure — one with far greater potential to impact the outcome of games — than other recent changes, however.

That said, while it’d be a change requiring adjustment for many established big leaguers, a pitch clock has been in place in the minor leagues dating back to the 2015 season. Because of that, it’d be a familiar regulation to the next wave of prospects who make their way to the big leagues. In theory, the pitch clock should be largely unnoticed once the league grows accustomed to its existence — be it this coming season or in the future — though there’ll surely be some early growing pains with the new system. And, of course, the move will likely be unpopular among most longstanding baseball fans; while part of Manfred’s aim in accelerating the pace of play is to grow the general appeal of baseball, there is of course a sizable (and oft-vocal) portion of the existing fanbase that does not want to see any such changes put into place.

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186 Comments

  1. bjhaas1977

    6 years ago

    Fire this Commissioner

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    • refereemn77

      6 years ago

      Not going to happen. The owners unanimously extended his contract through 2024 in November. The owners like him, so he’s not going away.

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    • PopeMarley

      6 years ago

      What’s your justification for this?

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      • RedFeather

        6 years ago

        He’s putting in a pitch clock before a NL DH.

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        • PopeMarley

          6 years ago

          One has nothing to do with the other. He also met with Tony Clark about it, and he’s talked about this for a couple of years. The Minor Leagues already use a pitch clock.

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        • Polymath

          6 years ago

          After reading this article, I posted my comment less than 20 seconds after I finished. I passed.

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    • twinsfan368

      6 years ago

      Have u ever tried to watch lance lynn or Jake odorizzi throw a pitch. They throw a pitch every minute. It gets so annoying. This is the way baseball should be played from now on. Heck, give it 15 seconds bro!

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      • jjd002

        6 years ago

        One of the reasons I enjoyed watching Roy Oswalt. The man got the ball from Ausmus at the front of the mount, moved to the rubber and throw. Like 10 seconds, even with a shake off.

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        • dimitrios in la

          6 years ago

          And Mark Buerhle worked fast too. Good stuff.

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        • Marius

          6 years ago

          Watching Halladay vs. Buerhle were the best games lol

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        • PhanaticDuck26

          6 years ago

          Rollins had a few good quotes about fast Cliff Lee worked

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        • goalieguy41

          6 years ago

          Yes. Game were like 90 mins long

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    • xabial

      6 years ago

      Why?

      Pitch clock will do more good than 3PT added to NBA.

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      • stevewpants

        6 years ago

        X did you fall and hit your head?Seems like an out of character position for you to take.

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        • xabial

          6 years ago

          I posted this here before in the thread about chance of implementing it unilaterally 2018:

          “Reminds me of reaction when the NBA added 3 PT line to make the game more exciting. Many people thought it was a “gimmick” in what itwas trying to accomplish. That’s what this eerily reminds me of^ Bold prediction: game changes same way.”

          All I got was dislikes/pessimism Im optimistic

          @stevewpants
          Have you hit your head? That personal jab is unlike you, I’ve been ganged up by trolls many times and appreciate you getting my back.

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        • stevewpants

          6 years ago

          A friendly jab, it was a legit question on my end, i truly thought it was out of character. I was mistaken and just didn’t remember you posting that i guess. And for the record I’m against the pitch clock because I don’t think they have any metric to tell them if it “works” whatever that would even mean to them. Like in experiments there is a test group and a control. Where is their information on exactly how and why the pitch clock “works?”

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        • stevewpants

          6 years ago

          What comparisons have they made pitting no pitch clock game outcomes against pitch clock game outcomes and why are those differences good things or bad things and who decides? I think they have done none of this, they are just throwing ideas at the wall hoping that something, anything, gets more people watching. In my opinion they should make any and every single game available for a 99 cent download each time, on whatever device you want no blackouts anywhere. Thats what the kids want, no strings, immediate access, wherever they are, whenever they feel like it at the click of a button.

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        • Prospectnvstr

          6 years ago

          As stated in the article, it’s been implemented in the minors since 2015.

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        • stevewpants

          6 years ago

          where does it say how the pitch clocked changed different aspects of the games and who decided if those changes were good or bad?

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      • DarkSide830

        6 years ago

        sometimes i wonder if you get enough dislikes…

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    • keystoneguru

      6 years ago

      Yes please mlb! This guy is the worst thing to happen to MLB since the last strike. Get someone who ACTUALLY knows the game and played it at a competitive level. Manfred probably last had cleats on when he was 8 or so. Just a shady lawyer trying to make a easy buck.

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  2. lucasd

    6 years ago

    how are pitchers supposed to control the running game with a pitch clock?

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    • ericm25

      6 years ago

      I think the pitch clock will be off with runners on base.

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      • Steve Adams

        6 years ago

        Might want to read the post.

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      • zachgwest

        6 years ago

        Wow good point! Everyone would run on 21 seconds haha

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        • clrrogers 2

          6 years ago

          The pitchers will need to vary the times that they deliver to the plate. i.e. at 15 seconds, 18 seconds, etc. so the runner doesn’t get that advantage.

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      • gmenfan

        6 years ago

        Nope, pitch clock does not change with runners on. It simply resets after a pickoff attempt.

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        • Chicks Dig the Longball

          6 years ago

          Can’t wait for a pitcher to step off 6 or 7 times in a row just to slow the game down.

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        • twinsfan368

          6 years ago

          Amen bro

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        • PhanaticDuck26

          6 years ago

          i’d like to see him feign the throw to first base to reset the clock, even if there is no runner there…

          you know that’s what Beltre would do if he were pitching

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  3. gmenfan

    6 years ago

    Slippery slope …

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  4. Disco Dave

    6 years ago

    baseball is unique where there is no game clock. stop this nonsense.

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    • Vizionaire

      6 years ago

      no matter what manfred does less number of youngsters are going to choose baseball over other sports.

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      • One Bite Hotdog

        6 years ago

        Salary cap making more teams competitive. Free agency will be more exciting. With more competitive teams, more local (or regional) interest. Games will be more exciting. Excitement is good entertainment. People like good entertainment. Good entertainment leads to interest.

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      • PopeMarley

        6 years ago

        Way lesser number of younger people watch it.

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      • dobsonel

        6 years ago

        They already are.

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    • roundtree

      6 years ago

      I agree with you….They just need to leave the game alone instead of adding new rules… The game is fine the way it is….

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    • Prospectnvstr

      6 years ago

      The competition between pitchers & batters is like a chess match. Even in competitive chess matches they use a clock. Pitch clock (Yes) N.L. DH (No).

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  5. matt41265

    6 years ago

    the thing that concerns me the most this is this is just the beginning

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    • gmenfan

      6 years ago

      The automatic intentional walk was the beginning, and this is another push in that direction. But you’re right – this leaves me thinking “what’s next ?”

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      • Yelsnit

        6 years ago

        Didn’t the “challenge” come first?

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      • Prospectnvstr

        6 years ago

        Does the NFL still use leather helmets? is the set shot still used in the NBA? Progressive tweaks/ changes happen in all sports and in life.

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        • jd396

          6 years ago

          That doesn’t mean every single idea is good or necessary.

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    • PhanaticDuck26

      6 years ago

      …just the beginning…

      ROBOT UMPS!

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      • xabial

        6 years ago

        Robot umps coming. Umpire lives won’t matter.

        Say hello to your ump overlords. First order of business:

        Fire Angel Hernandez!!

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        • xabial

          6 years ago

          Dont worry “human element”! INF umps… will never be replaced by machines… I hope (!)

          I don’t think I’ll see laser K zone replace umps in my life

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    • its_happening

      6 years ago

      Agreed Matt. I already brought this up nearly a year ago and got flack. Now we’re seeing it on full display. This will continue, only baseball will be focused on adjusting one side (pitching) rather than all sides to do what they feel is necessary.

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  6. digimike

    6 years ago

    How about a Harper signing clock.

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    • twinsfan368

      6 years ago

      Lol

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      • spudchukar

        6 years ago

        Pretty sure Boras would find a loophole.

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  7. machom36

    6 years ago

    Does anyone know how minor league games are affected by the pitch clock?

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    • petrie000

      6 years ago

      I think the fact that you even have to ask this shows how badly some people are over reacting. It’s present in the minors and it hasn’t radically changed the game

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      • iverbure

        6 years ago

        Let’s not let facts destroy this stupid narrative ok?

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    • luclusciano

      6 years ago

      Just look it up. It’s used in college as well, and keeps the game flowing.

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  8. c ya

    6 years ago

    Soon the best game will be down to 5 innings with all this BS chatter.

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  9. Vizionaire

    6 years ago

    hope the commish steps on a rattler!

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  10. gmenfan

    6 years ago

    Cant wait until we have instant replays to see if a pitcher started his rotation before the pitch clock expired.

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    • vinnie

      6 years ago

      And a horn like nba , sounds familiar to a Dominican winter league

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    • iverbure

      6 years ago

      I can’t wait for this vocal minority to find something else to complain about after this becomes a non issue that they don’t even notice. I remember you guys lost it over limiting mound visits lol

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  11. Francys01

    6 years ago

    I am watching the Mariners vs. Athletics game in the tv and that pitch clock is super annoying. I am putting more attention to the clock then to the game it is a huge distraction.

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    • Chicks Dig the Longball

      6 years ago

      That sounds like a “you” problem

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      • Francys01

        6 years ago

        I have to get used to it.

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      • Fuck Me Bitch

        6 years ago

        I wouldn’t say it’s a “you” problem. There are already too many distractions between what is going on the field and what the viewer on TV sees at home. In the “olden” days there would be the pitch on the screen, and it was all. The rest was baseball!

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    • Old User Name

      6 years ago

      I’m watching as well and paying attention to the clock but I think that’s just because it’s new. But I also find it interesting.

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  12. Meow Meow

    6 years ago

    Pitch clock is one of the frequently-cited pace-of-play initiatives that I’m most in favor of. Most pitchers will barely notice the difference or be affected in a major way, but it’ll really help rein in some of the biggest offenders.

    I have a sense that a lot of the crowd here is going to be vehemently opposed to this (I feel like there’s an aversion to pretty much any sort of new rules?), but a really slow at-bat really does just kill the excitement in an inning, in my opinion.

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    • Steve Adams

      6 years ago

      I’m not in favor of it, necessarily, but I’m pretty ambivalent about the whole concept.

      Generally, I agree that it’s not a major issue. I’ll bristle in its early stages when it’s resulting in extra balls/strikes being called from time to time, but I imagine that we’ll soon get to a point where we go entire games without the clock ever really being a factor.

      Eventually, if we get to a point where we forget it’s even there — and I do think that’ll happen — then it’s not really worth fretting over.

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      • Fuck Me Bitch

        6 years ago

        We will only forget that clock is there if it isn’t shown ticking down. Any human being will watch a clock ticking down to a moment of do or don’t! Human nature.

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        • spudchukar

          6 years ago

          The clock is ticking on me too. I don’t need a reminder.

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    • Cat Mando

      6 years ago

      Had MLB network on yesterday and someone (I didn’t see who…I was in another room nearby) said it hasn’t been a problem in the minors and AFL when tested. The players seem OK with it.
      Interestingly enough, 86%+ of the players polled last year by the Athletic were against it. In a side note 53%+ were against the DH in the NL.

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  13. jdgoat

    6 years ago

    Fix FA before you fix something that isn’t broken.

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    • spudchukar

      6 years ago

      Can’t wait until a pitcher is in his delivery, and he is called for taking too much time. Let’s go to instant replay. That ought to speed things up.

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    • Prospectnvstr

      6 years ago

      Yeah, it’s time to force Bryce Harper to make up his mind on which team to play for!!!!!!!

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  14. stansfield123

    6 years ago

    Pointless.

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  15. bbatardo

    6 years ago

    As a baseball purist I hate the idea of a pitch clock, but some pitchers do slow the game down way too much

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    • spudchukar

      6 years ago

      Then flag them. Give the umps some power here. One warning then an automatic walk. Wouldn’t bother me at all, and I hate the idea of a clock. Sure there would be arguments, but I would prefer it to arguments as to whether a pitcher had released the ball in time.

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  16. kiddhoff

    6 years ago

    Ahhhhhh. More stupid rules. While you’re at it, shorten the games to 6 innings. In lieu of extra innings, have each captain play horseshoes to determine the winner.

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    • spudchukar

      6 years ago

      Yeah the “special rules” for extra inning games sucks. It is so cool when games go on into infinity. Sure the stadiums become empty, position players pitch, but let’s face it, It is unique in sports, and I for one hope that part of the game remains in tact. It is special that the clock never runs out on a team.

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    • Prospectnvstr

      6 years ago

      Do you have those knee jerk reactions/ responses often?

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  17. batty

    6 years ago

    Tick-tock

    This won’t go well.

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  18. beetlejuice

    6 years ago

    And I thought Selig was a meddling nuisance.

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  19. IloveMACfootball

    6 years ago

    In this case, all the slippery slope arguments in the comments are illogical. The pitch clock is the end game the league has been moving towards and we’ve always known that.

    I don’t really think the clock is necessary and I doubt it will get the results MLB is looking for, but to worry about “what next” doesn’t make any sense.

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    • Chicks Dig the Longball

      6 years ago

      What happens when pitchers or hitter find a way to abuse the pitch clock for an advantage? It is inevitably going to happen. What then?

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      • ABStract

        6 years ago

        And there’s no way this is the end of the pace of play fixes…

        The one that would really speed things up and make the game far more fair and exponentially more watchable would be removing umpires from calling balls and strikes.
        That’s what I’m waiting for! I can’t stand the inconsistency the way things currently stand, the calls are all over the place and the strike zone can change from pitch to pitch.
        The fact that this can, but hasn’t been addressed yet is insane to me

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        • ABStract

          6 years ago

          But also, when something like the MLB has been so resistant to change for 150 years and then starts making a ton of changes all of a sudden, the slippery slope argument becomes far more appropriate

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        • spudchukar

          6 years ago

          Look, umps should be better, with some degree of consistency with the strike zone. But right now the technology isn’t there, and the strike zone really isn’t defined. The tech still has issues with 3D, and I for one would like the zone to emphasize lower pitches not higher ones. If MLB wants more runs then don’t start calling shoulder high strikes, strikes. Pitchers are already adjusting to the higher strike calls, which makes the homer or nothing approach even more difficult. The game worked well with less strikeouts, and calling higher strikes will only diminish runs. Nobody now knows what is a low strike. The knees, well that is pretty fungible. I don’t think there is much evidence that supports the idea that calling the high strike has increased runs. That is my issue with taking away the home plate ump. As a hitter I would hate it. If I get called out on a border line knee high strike, I might disagree, but not to one that is to the degree of one that is “shoulder high,” a pitch you have been taught to lay off of since Little League. I am convinced that going to a robotic approach to calling balls and strikes will diminish runs, not exactly what MLB is looking for.

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  20. geronimoradio

    6 years ago

    Tommy John injuries and surgeries are about to quintuple.

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    • Chicks Dig the Longball

      6 years ago

      I think this is an overlooked issue. Muscles need to rest in between pitches. The average pitch was every 24 seconds. If they shrink it to 20, then that is 4 seconds more of muscle fatigue per pitch. If a pitcher throws 80 pitches. That is 5 total minutes. That is not even taking to account that each pitch in sequence causes more stress than the last. So each 4 seconds is more important than the last.

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      • Santee Alley

        6 years ago

        How do you know that? What if using the muscles more consistently is better for the arm? If i bench press, I don’t wait 24 seconds between reps.

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        • braveshomer

          6 years ago

          good point when you think of it that way, keeps the blood flowing regularly to the muscle the shorter amount of time between reps/pitches. Keeps you more in flow I would think

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        • Chicks Dig the Longball

          6 years ago

          thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2016/06/06/study-says-…
          tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02640414.2016.115…

          This is good research study that shows what could happen.

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      • whyhayzee

        6 years ago

        The muscles are not hurt by the throwing, they are hurt by the slowing down after throwing. Kind of like running downhill. More pounding. There probably is some sort of optimal recovery time. But like all the other ideas, no one is looking out for pitcher health at the rule change level.

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      • its_happening

        6 years ago

        More TJ surgeries means more jobs. I’m sure MLB knows that. It’s a problem they do not care to address.

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    • petrie000

      6 years ago

      I’m not sure I trust your medical degree if this is the conclusion you immediately jump to…

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    • iverbure

      6 years ago

      TJ are up because pitchers are taught and trained to throw harder. Longer you give pitchers to pitch between pitches they can maintain velo for longer. God forbid guys will have to learn how to pitch instead of relying on velo.

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  21. Chicks Dig the Longball

    6 years ago

    The length of games is not the issue. The NFL game is about 20 minutes longer than an MLB game and people still watch it. It’s the content of the game that is boring. It’s too much of the same thing over and over and over for fans to get engaged. It’s 3 true outcome after 3 true outcome.

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    • theredsoxrule

      6 years ago

      the big difference is a NFL game clock is only 60 minutes but it takes 3 hrs to play but why don’t people complain about THAT…I’ll watch any mlb game over any nfl game anyday

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      • ABStract

        6 years ago

        True, they need to lower the mound or move it back or something…all this power pitching is great and all, but I’ve heard that chicks dig the long ball…and we all like to watch offense
        Baseball is on the verge of becoming soccer at this rate

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        • Chicks Dig the Longball

          6 years ago

          Home runs are at an all time high though

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        • ABStract

          6 years ago

          That was just a nod to u

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    • Rallyshirt

      6 years ago

      We have to consider what’s not working in the broadcast booth too. It’d be cool if every game were called by guys trained by intentional talk or something.
      Young fans are so bored by this grandpa stuff.

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      • Vizionaire

        6 years ago

        sissy boy ron darling must go!

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    • Cat Mando

      6 years ago

      I think much of the fading enthusiasm for the younger generations is based on several things. When you play a sport, even a sandlot version, as a kid you tend to follow it growing up.
      It’s easy to play basketball, two kids – one ball…..even football is the same. Of course it’s better with a few more kids and a wide open space for football but it’s not essential.
      Baseball you need at least 7 on each side, each needs a glove and gloves can be outgrown. Personal bats are nice too and a few baseballs (We always seemed to lose at least one per game…lol) Then there is the space and place to play.
      I doubt (but I may be wrong) that you find many kids playing stick ball in the streets. At the same time I bet touch football is still played.
      Basketball and football are just easier no matter where you live…and cheaper too.

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      • Vizionaire

        6 years ago

        there are countless basketball rings installed at many homes. but i have seen only one house with a baseball field. one in atlanta.

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      • PhanaticDuck26

        6 years ago

        good point, cat. I grew up in Philly and while we spent hours throwing back and forth in a pitcher-catcher alignment (no pitch clock), the opportunity to hone in your baseball-hitting skills was a bit more limited. It also seems to me that collecting baseball cards was such an awesome complement to enjoying the game itself, but kids dont care to collect and trade baseball cards like I did 25 years ago. To me thats just another sign that the popularity of the game is fading with the younger generation

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      • sasafrass81

        6 years ago

        When I grew up we played 1on1 baseball, 1 ball, 1 bat and 1 glove in our front yard or back yard. We had 11 teams and 2 divisions. We used ghost runners and chalkboards as scoreboards. Sometimes we all played together at my buddies house bc he had a large corner lot. We named our teams and our fields. I still see it today as I did 20 years ago and the high school I work for has just as many kids tryout for baseball as football.

        However, back when I was growing up there was maybe 60 + games on tv and now there are 162 aired (talking about your favorite team or regional team)! I believe baseball has lost that special feeling of the game (or few games ) of the week. You can miss a game bc one will be on tomorrow. ESPN shows at least half a dozen games a week as does MLB Network.

        Maybe younger fans are less likely than I to watch 150+ games a year of my team plus the countless other games I watch. I also see that the younger generation is more technology savy and would prefer to watch on tablets and phones. I hope we see kids return to baseball and data to show that.

        I’m not sure if these ideas will help, but I am 35 and I see more soccer played than anything else. I still see basketball hoops in streets, but I also see kids playing baseball at school fields, parks and little league is still popular here. I love baseball and will continue to help grow it in any way I can.

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  22. vinnie

    6 years ago

    MLB should reduce the advertisement time and we as fans will be glad

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    • bobtillman

      6 years ago

      Oh ya, like that’s gonna happen….expect instead, during a pitching change, “This pat on the butt is brought to you by Preparation H. Always check for hemorrhoids when changing pitchers!”.

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      • ABStract

        6 years ago

        Wow, that’s pretty great Bob

        Don’t give Manfred any ideas though!

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  23. BlueSkyLA

    6 years ago

    Great, now MLB can add another 30 seconds between innings to sell more commercials.

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  24. kenneth cole

    6 years ago

    As long as they don’t show it on TV. I don’t want the K zone or pitch clock aware to me as I watch. Too much of an arcade game feel

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    • Meow Meow

      6 years ago

      I’m 100% down with getting rid of the K-zone on TV because it seems to just make me mad about missed calls more than anything

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  25. VivaBeavis

    6 years ago

    Not liking the clock, nor the 3 batter rule for relievers. It doesn’t mean I want games to drag on forever, but these rules seem like making a change for no other reason than making a change. I do not see them as necessary.

    If pace of play is an issue, have a clock that the umps can be alerted about from the box. If the pitcher is egregiously violating the pace of play, a warning can be given, and if it continues, a clock can be put on that pitcher. I’d much rather see the pitcher and hitter be properly ready for those tense at bats.

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  26. Bone19

    6 years ago

    This is a dark day for MLB. As someone else already mentioned, this is a slipperly slope. Making drastic changes to a game that has been played the same way for 100+ years now opening up the possibily for even MORE changes. Its a daring and risky move all around cause on one hand you might draw in people who were never interested in baseball before, or on the other hand you lose the old fans that want the game to continue on same as always.

    This game is legendary and something historic in many ways. I would love it if my kids could see the SAME GAME I grew up playing and watching. Next thing you know my kids little league team will implement a pitch clock…

    There are numerous ways to help with pace of play that don’t involve changing the fundamentals of the rules to the sport.

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  27. bobtillman

    6 years ago

    I watch and attend a lot of minor league games….by April 15, you won’t even know the clock is there. And it DOES move the game along.

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  28. yamsi1912

    6 years ago

    GTFO Manfred.

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  29. Ryan Mayfield

    6 years ago

    Its called the national PASTIME for a reason. I’m not in a hurry to get the game over with. However, the biggest time waste is between innings. The player run out and we start play. How about cutting down the time there? I suspect its not good for commercial breaks and a non-starter in a game that is increasingly market driven and not baseball driven.

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  30. beetlejuice

    6 years ago

    Yeah, just like making hitters keep one foot in the box.

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  31. breckdog

    6 years ago

    I would be a nervous batter in spring training. Guys throwing hard and rushed is a bad idea especially so early in the year.

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  32. basquiat

    6 years ago

    They did this already a few years ago. By the end of the season they ignored it. Nonsense. If the owners want to do it, they will do it. The commissioner does what they tell him to do.

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  33. carlos15

    6 years ago

    Manfred is f’ing awful

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  34. gofish 2

    6 years ago

    How about a maximum of five foul balls when you have two strikes? If you have two strikes, and you foul off six pitches afterwards, you’re out. Counts as a K for the pitcher.

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    • ABStract

      6 years ago

      Naw

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  35. Swinging Friars

    6 years ago

    BOO!!!!!

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  36. FutureDaydream

    6 years ago

    It’s just a way to enforce the current rules though they have added 8 seconds.

    Rule 5.07(c) Pitcher Delays
    When the bases are unoccupied, the pitcher shall deliver the ball to
    the batter within 12 seconds after he receives the ball. Each time
    the pitcher delays the game by violating this rule, the umpire shall
    call “Ball.”
    The 12-second timing starts when the pitcher is in possession of the
    ball and the batter is in the box, alert to the pitcher. The timing
    stops when the pitcher releases the ball.

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    • Cat Mando

      6 years ago

      The big difference is in the following paragraph ………….
      “The intent of this rule is to avoid unnecessary delays. The umpire shall insist that the catcher return the ball promptly to the pitcher, and that the pitcher take his position on the rubber promptly. Obvious delay by the pitcher should instantly be penalized by the umpire ”
      As it stand now the rules say the pitcher “should” be penalized. The rule never mandated a penalty, it just suggested one could be given.

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      • Vizionaire

        6 years ago

        that may cause more injuries to pitchers. a lot of them relax by waking around the mound. also if they have to immediately step on the rubber how can they use rosin bags?

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        • its_happening

          6 years ago

          Considering how long umpires allow hitters to step out, do a routine and step back in the box they really can’t enforce the 12-second rule.

          One way to get the hitters ready to go is to allow a “quick pitch” (Rule 8). Meaning, once both feet are in the batters box the pitcher can throw.

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  37. firstbleed

    6 years ago

    Brent Suter approves (but I doubt any other pitchers do).

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  38. TreyMancini

    6 years ago

    So if there’s runners on base, then literally the pitcher can just step off to get more time. Nice.

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  39. pitnick

    6 years ago

    There’s no need for a new rule. There’s a perfectly good one on the rulebooks already, 5.07(c):

    “When the bases are unoccupied, the pitcher shall deliver the ball to
    the batter within 12 seconds after he receives the ball. Each time
    the pitcher delays the game by violating this rule, the umpire shall
    call “Ball.”

    The 12-second timing starts when the pitcher is in possession of the
    ball and the batter is in the box, alert to the pitcher. The timing
    stops when the pitcher releases the ball.”

    Just enforce that longstanding rule.

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    • Cat Mando

      6 years ago

      read the next paragraph…a penalty is not mandated. It says….”Obvious delay by the pitcher should instantly be penalized by the umpire” Should.

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  40. someoldguy

    6 years ago

    meaningless taking a game that is 3 hours and 5 minutes long and making it 2 hours and 59 minutes long to try please people with the attention span of a 140 characters is an exercise in failing to understand the real issue..

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  41. Vizionaire

    6 years ago

    the worst part of baseball is not how long it takes. it is the umps. so, what has commish ever done about that?

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    • ABStract

      6 years ago

      Thank you!

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    • PhanaticDuck26

      6 years ago

      ROBOT UMPS! welcome to the future.

      Reply
  42. DonC.

    6 years ago

    I’m a NL fan love the dh wish they would implement it!

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    • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

      6 years ago

      FTR, you are are AL fan who wants to ruin the NL.

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    • petrie000

      6 years ago

      Wouldn’t that paradoxically increase the length of the average game?

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  43. Marius

    6 years ago

    Limit mound meetings. When a pitcher is to come out of the game, the manager pulls him from where he is in the dugout. No need to go out there and get him. It’s just like a substitution in any other sport.

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  44. Marius

    6 years ago

    Video review is also broken. Either you challenge it right away or you don’t. I dislike how they wait for the bench coach to get the signal from the press box and then relay to the manager who is just playing in the grass waiting for the thumbs up or down.

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  45. stevewpants

    6 years ago

    Dumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumbdumb

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  46. its_happening

    6 years ago

    Manfraud making sure to check his marketing focus group full of casual and non-fans saying they would like the game to move along faster. This is what trying to reach a new audience looks like.

    Yes, fire Manfraud.

    For those wanting to point toward record revenues, check yourself. The TV deals that allowed record revenues had nothing to do with Manfraud.

    Impose and enforce hitters to stay in the batters box. That should have been the first order of business. MLB will only try to punish or force pitchers to adjust, never the hitter. Total bush.

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  47. sheagoodbye

    6 years ago

    Might sound nice in theory, but its implementation is guaranteed to be a mess. In other words, I doubt it’s actually going to be enforced on a regular basis, except on maybe the slowest tier of pitchers. I certainly hope that ends up being the case, for the pitchers’ sake.

    I’m all for sensible pace-of-play initiatives, but this one wouldn’t qualify as such in its current state. A much better solution would be to treat slow pitch times similar to how the NBA treats technical fouls: rack up too many games of them in a season and start getting fined past a certain figure.

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  48. Z-A 2

    6 years ago

    So the NBA and NFL can implement a rule change and it happens that year. MLB needs to beta test it for a decade.

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  49. Solar Flare

    6 years ago

    I thought that the MLB could not possibly have a worse commissioner than Steroid King Bud Selig, guess I was wrong.

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  50. Fuck Me Bitch

    6 years ago

    The real problem is the amount of relief pitching in today’s game! This is the elephant in the room. Ideas must be put forth and implemented if we are to get back to a reasonable game again.

    Buster Olney wrote this in an article last summer,

    “Here’s a fundamental change that would improve the game on many levels: Limit managers to the use of four pitchers per nine innings, with exceptions built in for injuries and blowouts.

    “Major league baseball desperately needs to get off the growing front-office addiction to relief pitchers, which is helping to destroy important components of the game.”

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    • its_happening

      6 years ago

      Or just stop bending rules that cater or overprotect hitters to boost offense. More hitters take pitches and prolong at bats due to enormous plate coverage they’ve been allowed to have thanks to the protection(s). Maybe pitchers will scale back the fastball if MLB lifts the mound back to 1967 levels.

      At least by keeping some semblance of tradition you can cut down the time rather than come up with limitations. The game of baseball wasn’t born with these time limits. The beauty of the game is that it’s limitless.

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  51. DarkSide830

    6 years ago

    the chances that this unwarranted change noticably affects the pace of the game is highly unlikely. the chances of unfavorable side effects? much higher.

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  52. petrie000

    6 years ago

    Honestly, 20 seconds is more than enough to to get a sign from the catcher, check the runners, and throw a pitch. So I’m not sure why so many people see this as the end of baseball as we know it

    Speeding up the pace of play means you don’t have to radically change the game to make it more tv friendly. And does anybody really enjoy watching pitchers or hitter go through needlessly complex routines before every pitch?

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    • stevewpants

      6 years ago

      I like watching pitchers and hitters who are both as ready and comfortable as they can possibly be while being primed for success. If that takes 22 seconds instead of 20 so be it. All the pace of play is nonsense anyways, the brass at mlb says they want more offense and making pitchers throw the ball faster may possibly lead to that, but more offense will make the games longer so the shortening the game argument goes out the window.

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    • jd396

      6 years ago

      You’d think all baseball games were 5 hours long before. They weren’t. When people say “I don’t watch baseball because it’s boring” it’s not about the run time of the game. It’s that they don’t really get it. They don’t see a guy throw a curveball over the outside edge of the plate for a strike on a 2-0 count and appreciate what just happened. It’s just a nothing throwaway play to them. No amount of Manfred’s pace of play stuff is going to change that.

      Other sports are relatively straight forward and easy to pick up. Baseball has always been more esoteric, but used to be easier to pick up, because it was more engrained in the culture. It isn’t anymore. That’s the problem.

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  53. GOLDENARM83

    6 years ago

    This is the type of nonsense that is driving away baseballs loyal fans…. Manfred is an idiot

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  54. coldbeer

    6 years ago

    I laugh when relief pitchers get driven out of the pen in the custom golf carts. I don’t anticipate i will be laughing much at the pitch clock. Sigh. *single tear*

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  55. timewalk42

    6 years ago

    You heard it first pitch clock will result in more stolen base attempts

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    • stevewpants

      6 years ago

      Mostly though just more times of the pitchers stepping off the rubber with runners on getting big leads and the time winding down.

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  56. SFGiantsGallore

    6 years ago

    Aww yes, the infamous pitch clock. Gone are the days of 5-10 minute at bats between the Yanks and Red Sox in the playoffs. I kinda miss that lol. Next step will be adding a runner on 2nd during extra innings. Just like many before us, we will use the phrase: “back in my day….” as the Millennials watch a timed 1 hour, umpire-less, aluminum bat, and digitally programmed baseball game.

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    • stevewpants

      6 years ago

      Easy there old timer, its actually the generation coming after millenials that aren’t remotely interested in the game. Its 2019 now, people born in 2000 are turning 19, they are not millenials and they are not watching much baseball either.

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      • jd396

        6 years ago

        It’s bad, however you slice it…

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  57. AvidRockiesFan

    6 years ago

    Ugh, I am not a fan of this at all. Instead of changing a timeless game & thus ruining in for us who appreciate the timelessness & purity of baseball, how about changing the attention spans of people who want to speed through things? Also how about teaching the younger generation that pitchers taking time in between pitches, & batters stepping out of the box is all about strategy & trying to throw the other off of their timing. A chess match on a field. Same as managers should be allowed to match up their pitchers with the opposition’s hitter. Like the saying goes: “Baseball is a Smart Person’s Sport.”

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    • themed

      6 years ago

      Great post avidRockies fan. I hate all the ignorant changes also. You’d even be surprised how many pitchers got the yips while trying to intentionally walk someone.

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  58. Royalsfan12

    6 years ago

    You’re taking away one of the unique parts of baseball. The sports has never had timers until now. Where’s the NL DH that we need?

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  59. chisoxjuan

    6 years ago

    What exactly are the penalties? Is it a strike or an out if the batter isn’t back in the box before the clock ticks down to 5 secs? Does an absent hitter reset the clock or is the pitcher still expected to deliver the pitch in those 5 secs? If both fail, are the penalties offset? is it a ball or a walk if the pitcher is late?

    Are there ejections for 3 penalties by the same player in a game?

    I imagine the pitch clock will greatly add to the stress of players. Is anybody going to produce a great WAR with that kind of pressure?

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  60. some guy 2

    6 years ago

    Seems like a better way to do it would be to leave it to the discretion of the umpire. If pitchers take longer than 20 seconds, they give a warning. If the continue to delay, award baserunners a base.

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    • Robertowannabe

      6 years ago

      Can’t leave it to umpire discretion. Too much on outcomes of games. Has to be uniform rules or not at all.

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  61. Equinsu Ocha

    6 years ago

    this is such a lame duck solution to the issue of game length. how can shaving a few seconds or even minutes, do anything to change the perception that the game is too long?!

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    • jd396

      6 years ago

      And at the same time they’re thinking about altering the game to increase offense. Which slows the game down.

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  62. draushaus

    6 years ago

    I don’t like clocks in baseball at all. But where a pitch clock could be useful is the high school and college levels. Players need to be taught sensible rhythm at a young age; then we wouldn’t have these issues in the bigs.

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  63. neoncactus

    6 years ago

    The clock might be harder on the hitters who like to step out of the box and readjust their batting gloves after every pitch than on most pitchers.

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  64. chisoxjuan

    6 years ago

    I looked up the NCAA rules & indeed 3 violations by a batter at a PA equals a strike out. Similarly, 4 violations by a pitcher at a PA equals a walk. The batter does have to be in the box ready to hit with 5 secs on the clock. The pitcher has to be on the rubber in his windup before the clock expires. If both the batter & pitcher are deemed not ready, it’s a ball. The burden is on the pitcher.

    Each player gets 1 game warning before the violations are penalized. Players requesting time had better have a good reason as the norm will be for umpires to deny such requests. That goes for the catcher as well. If the batter & pitcher are both “ready” but the catcher is not & time was not granted, a violation occurs & a ball is recorded.

    Arguing a violation will result in an ejection but there are seemingly no limits to how many violations a player might get in a game.

    I don’t know whether this is used in international play, but I can’t see the players accepting this. If MLB forces it on them I think they will strike. I can’t recall many games where pitchers & hitters were ready in that time. I think they need another 10 secs at least. As a compromise maybe they can get a 30 sec clock in exchange for 4 fouls is an out. I’m not sure if current fans like the lengthy PA any more.

    I’d be ok with that as long as they curtail current video review to scoring plays only.
    I’d rather they add more umps to the field then continue to pause the game for lengthy video reviews of non-scoring plays.

    At first I thought this destroys MLB’s link to the past, but realistically the focus on WAR & OPS has already done that. Offensive players of the past tailored their game to boost their H, R, & RBI. K’s were the worst. Now it’s all about stressing the pitcher:
    Push the pitch count, draw the free pass, & move the runner. R & RBI are considered just circumstantial stats. You can’t even compare the 90’s to today’s game so forget about prior decades. You can’t really compare present NFL or NBA to the past either so it’s not all that surprising. I guess the NHL & Soccer hold the strongest links to their past.

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  65. jd396

    6 years ago

    Bud Selig may have been a dirtbag but at least he wasn’t a blithering idiot. The game is fine, right now, but Manfred sees some of the indicators that are not good for the long term health of the game and he’s just throwing turds at the wall anymore.

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  66. jd396

    6 years ago

    Can we just stick to talking about religion?

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  67. terry g

    6 years ago

    Pace-of-the-game is not really the problem. It’s how do we get younger people to follow and watch the game.? I don’t there’s much that can be done to be honest. It’s much easy for a fan to block out 3 hours once a week than 3 hours a day. No sport has a schedule like baseball. The NFL is sort of an event. You watch your team play once a week. I love baseball because it is an every day event but it’s hard to get others to that level of commitment.

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  68. ReverieDays

    6 years ago

    Why not just play 7 inning games, too?

    Reply
  69. SFGiantsGallore

    6 years ago

    Anyone have the stats of the minor league games with and without the pitch clock? Just wondering how much the pitch clock affects the total duration of the game. Seconds? Minutes? Hours?

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  70. stan lee the manly

    6 years ago

    Manfred is not good for the game of baseball

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  71. redsoxsuk1

    6 years ago

    Just throw the damn ball!!

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  72. luclusciano

    6 years ago

    I think this is a good idea. The one complaint new. Baseball fans have is the game is too slow. The implemented this in both college and minors to just make pitchers throw, and apparently it will take too long to wait for those players to get to the bigs.
    I guess my question to all the down voters is – what bad will this cause other than it being different and change?

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    • Swinging Friars

      6 years ago

      I don’t think that is a complaint by an actual fan..

      This is just more tinkering to allow for more runs scored. Which will lengthen these games not shorten them

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    • Swinging Friars

      6 years ago

      Strategy wise = if the runners and batter know the timing of the pitcher that is a huge gift to them. Huge

      This whole stepping off the rubber thing is all about timing. Now everyone knows when the pitch is coming. Either it’s coming right away or you know when that final second ticks it’s coming. Time is the only thing freezing that runner. It’s also reeking havoc on the batter’s nerves

      This isn’t a small rule change. This is more akin to lowering the mound

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    • DrDan75

      6 years ago

      The one thing that makes baseball different from every other spectator sport is the fact that there is no clock. The game is over when the last out is made in the final inning, not when the clock runs down to zero.

      I am pretty much a baseball purist all around. I don’t like the DH and I don’t like the instant replay crap either. Make pitchers hit, let human error be part of the game, and let pitchers throw the ball when they’re ready.

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    • AtlSoxFan

      6 years ago

      So basically reinforcing the stereotype that kids and millenials have problems with delayed gratification and want everything now, now, NOW.

      Where’s it end, going to an 8 inning game? 7 innings? How about 3 balls for a walk? If 2 strikes exist we count any fouls as a ball? Requiring a time limited delivery? All also STUPID ideas I’m sure manfred already is looking at.

      Shaving 5 or 10 minutes tops off the game isn’t worth destroying all the other facets and strategy involved

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  73. Bobby Czyz

    6 years ago

    Clocks don’t belong in baseball! I don’t want to look at a clock!

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  74. DougieJones

    6 years ago

    Manfred is such a loser. People that don’t like baseball aren’t going to like it any more with timers. But those that like it will like it less with timers.
    MANFRED IS RUINING BASEBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  75. DougieJones

    6 years ago

    Next there are going to be tie games after 12 innings!!!

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    • AtlSoxFan

      6 years ago

      Didn’t you hear? Manfred wants to kill long extra inning games too.

      10th inning and beyond starting a runner at 2nd base each inning is the proposal on the table – again, something he said he can do without MLBPA agreement.

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  76. AtlSoxFan

    6 years ago

    If we really wanted to shave time off a game he’d reduce the commercial time outs.

    All these pace of play things aren’t about fan experience… they’re about tv contracts and the networks complaining that their programming schedule (and post game shows) get messed up by games exceeding the allocated slot so often.

    Fans are just fine on the whole with long games, they can leave the ballpark early if they want. I’d prefer a 3 hour game to a 90 minute one myself, more time for the ballpark experience and to enjoy those unhealthy creations and drinks before the 7th inning cutoff

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