Feb. 21: The Padres have formally announced the signing and confirmed the terms of the contract (10 years, $300MM). To clear room on the 40-man roster, right-hander Dinelson Lamet was transferred to the 60-day injured list.
Per Heyman, the deal will pay Machado $30MM annually and contain a six-team no-trade clause (Twitter links). Technically, the first season of the deal is paid out in the form of a $10MM salary and a $20MM signing bonus — that latter of which is not subject to the same level of taxation as Machado’s actual salary. Machado will play third base in San Diego.
Feb. 19, 10:20pm: Machado’s deal doesn’t contain any deferred money, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale tweets.
6:23pm: Machado’s deal will contain limited no-trade protection, Passan tweets. The contract should be formally announced Thursday or Friday, he adds.
12:58pm: There are some key elements of the deal still to be worked out, per Jon Heyman of MLB Network (Twitter link). Notably, the sides have yet to hammer out terms on trade protection. That said, it seems the final pieces are not expected to pose an obstacle to the contract’s completion. Machado will receive the $300MM on a fairly evenly spread basis, with the opt-out chance midway through the deal.
11:27am: The Padres have agreed to terms on a free agent contract with star infielder Manny Machado, according to ESPN.com’s Jeff Passan (via Twitter). It’s a ten-year, $300MM deal for the MVP Sports Group client, according to MLB.com’s Mark Feinsand (Twitter link). The contract includes an opt-out after the fifth season, per Tim Brown of Yahoo Sports (Twitter link).
Nothing is formally concluded here, it bears noting. If nothing else, it seems a physical will still need to be completed. Padres chairman Ron Fowler says a deal is not complete, per Dennis Lin of The Athletic (via Twitter), saying the sides are “continuing discussions.” Of course, that hardly means there isn’t an agreement in principle on the key terms.
Certainly, the White Sox believe they’ve lost their primary winter target. VP Kenny Williams expressed shock in comments to reporters. “We could not go to that $300MM level,” he said (via Daryl Van Schouwen of the Chicago Sun-Times, Twitter links). Williams indicated that he had believed the South Siders were the high bidders, and he maintains “there was more potential for him to make more here than that reported deal.” It seems, though, that Machado preferred the greater guaranteed money and other elements of his new deal to the structure proposed by a White Sox organization that had rolled out quite a welcome mat, including the acquisition of Machado’s comrades Yonder Alonso and Jon Jay.
It’s a stunning result for the 26-year-old Machado, whose long-running open-market saga has coincided with that of fellow star Bryce Harper. It took some time, but Machado will still spend the bulk of Spring Training with his new teammates.
Last year, the Friars shocked the baseball world by outbidding the market for first baseman Eric Hosmer. Now, they’ve followed up that move with a much bigger commitment to an even better and younger player.
The move plainly sets the Padres organization on a course to compete in the near-term, though the investment will hopefully coincide with a rather lengthy competitive window. It’s reasonable to wonder, though, whether this move sets the stage for further action this winter. The Padres have a fairly crowded outfield group, a ton of top prospect talent, and clear room to improve the MLB pitching staff. They could consider pursuing the top remaining open-market pitchers (Craig Kimbrel, Dallas Keuchel, Gio Gonzalez) while revisiting trade talks on other starters.
[RELATED: MLBTR Free Agent Tracker]
It’s not hard to see how this signing could have a ripple effect in the market, with the potential for a highly intriguing late-spring reignition of the hot stove. If nothing else, there’s now a clear mark for Harper to try to top, with several teams potentially interested in landing him after missing on Machado.
The 10/300 price is precisely where many anticipated Machado landing at the outset of the market. It sets a free agent record in terms of total guarantee, at least before adjusting for inflation, though falls shy of Giancarlo Stanton’s extension and may soon be topped by Harper’s own deal.
Despite his excellence to this point of his career, and the promise of many more productive seasons to come, Machado entered the market with some questions. He raised eyebrows with some questionable acts and words during the postseason, leaving many fans — and perhaps some organizational leaders — with the sense that, as he himself put it, he’s “not the type of player that’s going to be ’Johnny Hustle.'”
Clearly, those oft-cited comments didn’t cost Machado a chance at a massive contract. He also picked up support of several former teammates and coaches, so it’s not as if there weren’t countervailing facts. Clearly, though, the ill-advised words didn’t help his cause. We’ll never know the full extent of the impact, but reduced interest from even a single potential suitor could have changed the way the market took shape. The Yankees never fully engaged despite making sense on paper, while it seems the Phillies passed on a chance to outbid the more budget-conscious Padres, though those and other organizations were surely weighing other factors as well.
In truth, the hustle chatter held such attention in no small part due to Machado’s otherwise mostly impeccable resume. He has topped 6 fWAR in three of the past four seasons, owing to a combination of outstanding glovework and well-rounded offensive production. Despite some knee issues earlier in his career, Machado has played all 162 games in two seasons (2015, 2018) and missed just 11 total contests in the two intervening campaigns.
Over his seven seasons in the majors, Machado carries a .282/.335/.487 batting line with 175 home runs. That perhaps understates his present ability with the bat, though, as Machado has posted 130+ wRC+ campaigns in three of the past four years and has hit between 33 and 37 long balls in all four seasons. He has also successfully honed his plate discipline over the years, setting career-best marks in 2018 with a 9.9% walk rate and 14.7% strikeout rate.
It’s a more interesting question on the defensive side of things. Machado had long graded as an outstanding defender at third base, but drew negative reviews upon shifting back to his native shortstop in 2018. Of course, the numbers reversed somewhat after he landed with the Dodgers in a mid-season trade, perhaps indicating that he still has the potential to handle short at an average or better clip if surrounded by the appropriate analytical resources and adjacent defenders.
Regardless, the plan seems to be for Machado to slide back to the hot corner in San Diego. The club has been searching for a piece there all winter long. Indications are that Luis Urias (with an assist from Greg Garcia) will keep the seat warm at shortstop while uber prospect Fernando Tatis Jr. finishes his development. Urias could ultimately slide back to second, though that position is occupied for the time being by veteran Ian Kinsler. Of course, as noted above, it still seems premature to guess at the overall roster picture, as the Padres could explore a nearly endless variety of complementary moves.
Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.
Michael Herman
Wowza
PickleRiccck
Wow
PickleRiccck
10 year $300 million. Those fools who thought both Machado and Harper would get $500 million+, where are they at now? I bet Harper gets no more than $320 million.
southbeachbully
The only idiots dumber than those who thought they would get $400 mil are those who thought either would get $500 mil.
herecomethephillies2018
I don’t recall anyone predicting that much except for Scott Boras…
24TheKid
I’ll tell you where they are now, they’re the ones writing this article.
iverbure
I don’t think anyone expected the CBA to punish Lux tax teams as harshly as they do currently. Without those penalties it was easily reasonable to expect both players on the open market to exceed Stanton’s deal with the way inflation works.
Only fools here are the people who thought they could predict the PA for negotiation such ludicrous terms that actually hurt the players. Now next CBA they’ll be negotiating to get rid of the terms they negotiated last time around. It’s hilarious.
24TheKid
Your link doesn’t work on the app, is there a way you could send it to me?
PeterDipersio
10 years 300 million ! I don’t see Machado producing at the age of 35 or 36 like he is now! This is a bad move ! It has Jacoby Ellsbury type ramifications!
dontown85
Good riddance!!!
Ironman_4life
I don’t ever recall anybody saying 500 million but I do recall someone saying 13 years 400 million
mrpadre19
In 10 years he also won’t be the highest paid player any longer.
Not even close.
Plus I doubt he’s a Padre for the full 10.
murphydog
Other agents, players, bloggers, so called journalists, sports editorial writers and sports broadcasters (including MLB network and MLB XM radio all predicted 400 ml and 10 or more years.
luclusciano
I don’t remember much above 300 being predicted for Machado. Maybe one person mentioned his name and high 300’s
outinleftfield
Not for Machado. It was always right around $30 million AAV for him and that is what he got.
geejohnny
And anyone who believes what comes out of Boros’ mouth anyway has no idea what he’s about. He’s about Boros.
youthinkwhat
There are big differences between those players… Jacoby was a bag of glass before he signed that deal. Machado has a great track record and produces.. the Johnny hustle quote didn’t help him at all but the reality is he can produce. Will he be worth 30mm? I say he will be and I also feel that in 5 years 30mm won’t be as crazy as it sounds today. The Padres got a good player and it’s awesome to see small market teams spend on a good player.
deweybelongsinthehall
Negotiating is a game. Agents and owners both say things out of the norm to see what sticks. In my profession, one side says their rock bottom number is X, the other says their final offer is Y. We get into the mediation room and that bottom line number gets further reduced and that “final” offer suddenly isn’t so final. Great for the sport that he signed with SD.
socraticgadfly
If a WAR is worth about $7M, maybe a bit more, he’s being underpaid slightly right now. Could be overpaid later. He may opt out after 5 and the Padres may be lucky he does.
Grizalt
Jesus. Not this tired argument again. No player will ever opt out in a scenario where his team would “be lucky if he does.”
Coast1
Two to three years ago when Chris Davis got $161 million and Stanton got $325 people were predicting it.
vinnie
Probable
vinnie
Id like to see the Contract details
Willy Mays
Saying WAR is 7 million a point is ridiculous. Do you believe Didi Gregorius is going to get 28 million per. Do you see Mike Trout getting 75 million per.How about Degrom getting 70 million per.Turning WAR into dollars per year is a ridiculous argument. Try to explain Harpers salary in dollars per year.Using your numbers he’s worth about 10 million per
Coast1
1 WAR was worth around $4 million if you take total payroll divided by total WAR.
socraticgadfly
I wasn’t referring to his first five years of performance; that may not have been clear. I meant he may have so great a first five that he opts out … and then has a fairly sharp aging curve.
socraticgadfly
Actually, you’re right on Harper and I’ve long said that. I wouldn’t pay him more than $22M or so a year, as his one 10-WAR season looks more and more like a fluke.
Grizalt
If he has a great first five years and the Padres are still worried about him having a sharp aging curve, if not for the opt-out they would be able to get value out of the contract via trade. Instead they lose him for nothing. Opt out can only hurt the team.
JaysForDays
Kaepernick?
atomicfront
He won’t opt out,. The Padres will win 65 games next season just as if they didn’t sign him.
socalbball
This site’s prediction on Machado was 13 years, 390 million. They got the average annual value correct, but were off by 3 years on the length of contract.
MuleorAstroMule
Huh, that’s like saying guys never fall off a cliff. They do, and opt outs haven’t been around long enough yet for us to see which teams dodge a bullet by having their player opt out due to good performance and then enter a steep decline.
jaysfan1994
Why his defense should stay steady like a lot of other 3B types until he’s really old. Beltre for example was constantly a great fielder until he retired and Machado should also retain that ability as well since having great hands is something that tends to remain with you.
As for his bat, sure. He probably won’t be the same player at 35 that he was at 27. I don’t think anyone is expecting that, if he gives them 7-8 great years and 2 above average years he’s worth it.
Grizalt
Cute story you keep repeating. But how many players have actually opted out in a scenario where their team benefited from it? Other than A.J. Burnett with the Phillies (who knew he wasn’t going to beat the money he was leaving on the table in free agency but spending his last season before he retired pitching for a contender was evidently more important to him), I can’t think of any. It’ll be the same way with Stanton, Machado and Harper. They will opt out if and only if opting out hurts their team.
jdgoat
Machado is 10 times the player Ellsbury ever was.
Padsfan
Boris is not machado agent
Isthisserious
How is opt- out bad for the team?
Grizalt
Without the opt-out, if the player is providing surplus value on the contract, the team can either keep the superstar they have signed for below market value or trade him for a haul of prospects. With the opt-out, if the player is providing surplus value on the contract, they have to either up his pay or lose him for nothing.
Pads Fans
$10.5 million.
rgreen
I remember reading 400m,and I thought that was crazy.But I also understand why.26year old star caliber players don’t reach free agency very often anymore.
Idosteroids
1 WAR is worth almost 10 mil running into 2019.
Pads Fans
The value of WAR per point is based on free agents only. It was $10.5 million for 2018 according to Fangraphs.
Only free agents are able to negotiate for the top possible dollar value in contracts.
Pads Fans
The Padres are off the board in Las Vegas right now until this deal is finalized, but before the signing the Padres were at 78 wins. This signing makes them a .500 team and I don’t think they are done.
Pads Fans
Players start to decline after their age 30 season. The Padres have 5 seasons of Machado’s peak playing years.
sdfriarfan
That might be balanced out by the uptick in attendance and merchandise sales. I’m just thinking of how Pujols helped the Angels.
Mikel Grady
What app do you use if you are a grumpy old man bothered by someone that gets joy from telling people I told you so ? Just asking for you .
SoxPow
That’s like Xabial-caliber down votes
Ejemp2006
Padre Conspiracy!!!
HonestFeedback
Too bad they don’t really have enough to contend… They have almost zero pitching and all prospects other than tatis are long shots…
This is a bad signing. The Padres do not have the resources to overcome any mistakes.
deweybelongsinthehall
The question I have is whether or not ownerships’ hesitation is real or artificial. If the latter, Machado signing with a small market club helps balance teams out but won’t be as big an issue with bigger contracts moving forward as how many $30m players can a team have if their maximum payroll is $250m (or so for 2019). This could be the real issue to address in the next CBA. I still propose rewarding teams with a lesser penalty when they re-sign their own players. Other than lowering prices, it’s as good a benefit for the fans as there is. Cut the luxury tax impact to 50% after year 4.
Koamalu
Wow. You got downvoted for that. MLBTR predicted 13/390 which is 30 million AAV.
nowheretogobutup
Its a great move for the Padres who would have thunk it, now if they trade for Kluber or another top SP you’ll see the Padres in 2020 in the playoffs and in 2021 in the WS, Couldn’t be happier with this, Lots of talent in the farm coming through this year and next year. GO FRIARS
WubbaLubbaDubDub
Team can always trade prior to the opt out – treat it like a contract year.
ColossusOfClout
True, Pujols did help ticket sales when the Angels signed him… until he actually started playing and stunk the joint out!
oldleftylong
$300M if lucky. Phillies, it is.
nypadre66
Did the Padres draw any better or have higher merch sales when the hometown boy Adrian Gonzalez was in his prime? Maybe you’ll get a few more Chicago or St. Louis transplants buying tickets to watch their boys beat up on the Padres, but I doubt it will make an appreciable difference past the first few months.
daalie
Really…. how many long term deals were/are great?
SDHotDawg
Jeez. Bitter much?
nonadhominem
Actually, if you take TOTAL payroll, you have to divide it by the TOTAL number of wins, not the marginal “wins above replacement”. To just use wins above replacement is to say that a team’s first 48 wins have no value.
Therefore:
MLB 2018 total payroll
$4,320,469,805 divided by 2,430 total wins = $1,777,971.
That’s what the average win cost an MLB team in 2018.
So, the question becomes, what will teams pay for a win above replacement?
The numbers often spouted here by some posters ($7 – 9 MM) are bogus, because even Fangraphs in their fine print says it’s what teams will pay in FREE AGENCY for a win above replacement. By definition, that’s marginal WARs above what they already pay for on their roster, to pre-arb and arb players..
For instance, Francisco Lindor put up 7.6 fWAR in 2018, but was only paid $623,200. So using those numbers the WAR produced by Lindor was worth only $82,000.
J.D. Martinez put up 5.6 fWAR and was paid $23,750,000, or $4,241,071 per WAR.
Mat Kemp produced 1.6 fWAR at a cost of $21,750,000: $13,593,750 per WAR.
So which number is accurate?
Few, if any teams can actually afford to pay the mythical $7 – 9 MM per WAR that is tossed around.
If the Red Sox had paid $7MM per WAR last year, their total payroll would have been $420MM. At $9MM per WAR it would have been $540MM. I’m pretty sure even they can’t afford a payroll that high.
But they didn’t pay that much, because they got Betts’ 10.4 fWAR for $10,500,000, or $1,009,615 per WAR, and a lot of other producers for a far lower cost per WAR than what teams are willing to pay in free agency.
So, a WAR really isn’t “worth” $7MM overall. Will teams pay that for wins on the margin to try to make it over the top? Yes, of course.
But that is part of the readjustment that is going on in the game. Many teams aren’t necessarily tanking, but they’ve figured out it makes no sense to pay $7 – 9MM for a marginal win if they have no chance to make the playoffs.
One thing that will happen if players get to FA faster or the minimum salary is, say, doubled: it will affect the amount of money older vets get paid because it will be redirected to younger players.
it will be interesting to see what happens.
Ejemp2006
False
amandafafi
Your calling them fools
But your going to work in an hour
What a Putz
Solar Flare
Exactly, but who said that Ellsbury was better than Machado?
JoeBrady
Those were just clueless writers looking for clicks, Even though they are relatively young, 10 years is still slightly outside their productive years.
Having said that, $30M for a projected 5.4 player is not bad.
JoeBrady
The CBA was signed before Machado became a FA. I think it was more a factor of which teams were going to bid. LAD has Turner, the NYY have a good 3B with 5 years of control. The RS have the same, and no money. LAA has to re-sign Trout. The Phillies have a decent 3B.
If you want to break the bank, you need teams that have real spending money and real need.
JoeBrady
I agree. My biggest tactical issue I have with many teams is not that they don’t spend, but they don’t spend at the right time. BA & TO should’ve traded Machado & Donaldson during the 2017 season, and then tanked heavily.
OTOH, the NYMs have great pitching and should’ve dove into the FA to go over the top.
IMO, and I don’t like Preller or Machado, but this is the perfect signing at the perfect time. They have some existing talent, and a ton of prospects. Now is the time to pick up the guy that can anchor them.
larry48
Padres to trade him within 3 years when they still suck
Grizalt
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BartoloHRball
WAR is used to evaluate FREE AGENT valuation, as that is the only time the player has access to a free market. Do whatever math you want, but how you quantified it is not how clubs go about it.
Koamalu
It changes every year.
niched
Excellent post
jcanose
Same. I want to know who he can’t be traded too.
jameyc
actually I saw them at 76 wins and with machado 78. signing him is great for the team but if anyone thinks he is turning them into a contender their crazy. its not like basketball where one guy can have that influence. he is only one of 25 guys on that roster, and one of nine starters. they better hope some of those prospects pan out big time or this signing is for not. he will surely opt out after 5 years if that isnt the case.
SDHotDawg
It all depends on what Preller can do with our pitching. But … No worries. Most of our fans seem to be convinced that our pitching prospects are going to compete with each other for the Cy Young from the moment they make their big league debuts.
Grizalt
No, we think they are going to compete for the Cy Young, MVP, ROY, MOY and be the new messiahs!
Come on man. If you are going to put a straw-man out there, you need to really go for it.
SDHotDawg
It’s not a straw man if I’m not applying it to a specific argument.
You’ve seen it. You’ve even posted some of it. It seems like everybody believes our prospects are going to hit the big leagues fully developed and ready to dominate ML hitters. You know as well as I do it doesn’t work that way, and it’s an unrealistic expectation
Grizalt
It is a straw-man if you are attacking an argument no one is making.
What I said was “With the quality and quantity of the pitching prospects that the Padres have, if they can’t put together a quality rotation, no one can.” Even with pessimistic estimates on the hit rates of pitching prospects, they should still be able to put together a quality rotation. Pitching is the strength of their system.
SDHotDawg
Not attacking an argument, just making a point. Pointing out an absurdity with an absurdity. Some people seem to ignore the reality and nature of prospects, especially pitching prospects.
As of now, we need a decent SP or two until the kids are ready to show what they can do in the big leagues.
camdenyards46
No one said that lmao
SDHotDawg
You haven’t been paying attention for the last 3 years.
commentinggenius
Tony Clark is going to Pizza Hut tonight BABY!!
soxscelticspats
Pizza Hut. No way , He is going to Sizzler. Lol
Gunnerson
hahahahhahahahhahah
Chicks Dig the Longball
Tony Clark tonight:
youtube.com/watch?v=GskUYxVzNF0
hook316
c ya
LOL, Any more of them exist?
fasbal1
Tony like his Popeyes
dazhk
Speechless. Not the amount but the Padres?!?! Good for them!!!!
Questionable_Source
Why? The Padres are the only team that’s still overpaying for free agents.
baseballhobo
Thank you Padres! I like when teams overpay for free agents.
commentinggenius
Patrick Corbin?
gmenfan
Tony, is that you ?
CursedRangers
Padres have $20M in dead salary on the books. Once that comes off their ledger, they will still be around league average in payroll. Even with the Manny signing.
Pushes them to a .500 team next year. Seems odd for a $300M investment…
Lorenzo
That’s THIS year, 2019. The Farm is rich in premium pitching talent just beginning to arrive, and pitching is the heart of the game.
Ejemp2006
*Padre conspiracy* All owners met in basement of Sacramento Dave and Busters. All agree that Padre will be landing spot for one big bad contract each off season until CBA. All know one big bad contracts won’t help Padre win.
Then at CBA, owners and owner lawyers point media attention to Padre big bad signings and still losing. Hosmer! Machado! Next year too! Still only win less of 75!
Koamalu
With Machado the Padres are at $110 million including the $20 million in dead salaries. What is league average?
nowheretogobutup
I hear a lot of envy here too bad for your team
SDHotDawg
Somebody down voted a legit question? Wow. BTW, if I rember correctly, league average is just over $140MM.
busterhyman
They finally have a hitter capable of hitting over .260. Now they just need a #1, 2, 3, and 4 starter. They have plenty of #5’s.
iverbure
And those starters just need to win 20,15,15 and 10 games right. Batting avg lol
jbigz12
Iver you don’t have to post like a grade A coc,sucker. Tell me how much smarter you are than everyone else. You’re just so far ahead of the curve. Why don’t they put you in a front office already?
Prospectnvstr
The Padres starters are going to surprise most of the country. They have no name recognition but decent solid upside, especially with Manny’s bat AND excellent glove at 3rd.
Lorenzo
Almost every starter in the Hall Of Fame began as a #5 starter. The average age of the starters who finished 2018 is 25.
SDHotDawg
You might want to look at the 2001-2003 Texas Rangers.
After that, you should do some research on pitching prospects. (TNSTAAPP!)
We Padre fans have a lot to be excited about at the moment, but let’s be real about it.
HonestFeedback
Pitching prospects totally never fail to be aces. Especially lefties.
Pads Fans
As someone said, all pitchers start as prospects. TINSTAAPP is not only incorrect, its not possible.
larry48
Manny will not be pitch to unless he swings at pitchers pitch. Afier they walk him Padres will fail to hit as normal worst offense in MLB in 2018.
davidcoonce74
There were three teams worse than SD, offensively, in MLB in 2018 (Phillies, Detroit, Texas). There’s every reason to believe that the Padres will be better in 2018, besides just adding Machado. Tatis will be up at some point, Urias will be starting all season, Hosmer can’t be any worse, the young outfielders are all a year better….we’ll see. Their offensive stats are hurt a bit by the home park, which is closer to neutral than it once was but still favors pitching, and adding 5+ WAR to the gaping hole that was third base is a huge upgrade for the Padres.
JoeBrady
Lamet, Lauer, and Lucchesi all project to be #3’s or better.
Lucchesi had a 4.08 as a rookie with a 3.37 K/W.
Lauer had a 4.37 as a rookie, with a 2.17 K/W.
Lamet had a 4.57 as a rookie with a 2.57 K/W
They certainly need an ace type to accompany them, maybe even a #2 type as well. But I’d bet real money that all three of those guys develop into #3 guys in the next season or two.
And, as a RS fan, I am still annoyed we felt the need to throw in Allen in the Kimbrel trade.
SDHotDawg
Hell has frozen over.
Officially.
Lorenzo
Hell, Michigan froze over weeks ago, during the polar vortex.
todd76
In the end Manny was just about “show me the money”, not about playing for a legitimate contender. I’m not surprised.
jbigz12
In year one. The Padres future looks as bright as any current non contender in the game. 10 years is a damn long time.
Bryzzo2016
Did a legitimate contender extend him an offer? The Yanks? Cubs? Red Sox? LAD? Astros? Nope. So the next best thing is a rebuilding team that you believe has a chance to actually have a successful rebuild, plus more guaranteed money. Clearly the Padres rebuild looks much more promising than that parade of busts on the south side. This isn’t that complicated.
xabial
I’m posting on top of a thread of nearly 1K comments
Here’s the White Sox FINAL offer: (espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/26031051/manny-machado-san…)
“The White Sox’s final offer to Machado was for eight years and $250 million, sources said. It included a pair of club options based on plate appearances that could have brought the value of the package to $320 million.”
Pads Fans
The only source that has said that it was 8/250 was Nightengale. Even Rosenthal just quoted Nightengale on it. Nightengale also said it was 7/175 earlier which we know is a lie.
You can count the times Nightengale has been correct about any FA signing on the fingers of one hand.
Dan Miller
The Padres are going to be praying that Machado exercises the opt out halfway through the contract, but by then everyone will know he isn’t worth anywhere near the money and the market will dictate that he stay in San Diego. One guy is not going to save the Padres, and especially if he’s Manny Machado. WAY overrated! Good luck, San Diego; you’ll need it.
Grizalt
“The Padres are going to be praying that Machado exercises the opt out halfway through the contract…”
If that is the case (and I’m not saying it isn’t) then the odds of him opting out, even if he wins MVP all 5 years, are effectively zero from the get-go.
SDHotDawg
That will depend entirely on Preller. Getting Machado is an awesome step forward, but Preller has yet to demonstrate he knows anything about building a Major League roster. Especially when it comes to scouting and acquiring Major League pitching talent.
I’m excited to see where we go from here. It’s definitely a step in the right direction.
My biggest concern is that we end up like Preller’s alma mater, the Texas Rangers, after they made headlines by signing Alex Rodriguez to a historic 10 year contract in his prime. For three years, from 2001-2003, they couldn’t win more than 74 games, in spite of leading the AL in most offensive categories. Why? They had zero pitching, being at or near the bottom of the league. After 3 years, they sent Mr. Juice packing to the Yankees (along with some cash).
The time is NOW to see if Preller knows anything about building a winner.
SDHotDawg
Edit- “73 games.”
Pads Fans
The first two pitchers out of the 2016 draft to pitch in the majors were Padres. Both were about average in MLB. In other words, both were #3 starters in 2018.
6 pitchers that Preller has drafted since his first draft with the Padres in 2015 were on the 2018 MLB roster.
I would say that is a dang good record with drafting and developing MLB pitchers.
SDHotDawg
Can we let them get some dirt in their cleats before we pronounce them successful big league pitchers? It takes starting pitchers an average of two full seasons to start reaching their potential.
Luchessi showed great promise in his rookie year. He was on track to finish with a sub-4 ERA until his second to last start. Green left him in to take a pounding, presumably as a learning experience. Throw out that game, his performance was well above average for a rookie SP.
Lauer looks like he needs another year of seasoning. Lamet was showing a lot of promise, now we have to wait and see how he comes back from TJ. Erlin still shows promise, but only if they let him start so he can figure it out. Strahm is intriguing, I’d like to see what he can do as a starter. Mitchell was Preller’s “project,” he was given every (undeserved) opportunity to succeed, and failed; he should be DFA’d. Perdomo? See Mitchell.
Grizalt
What happened to “Eric Lauer will never be anything more than a back-end starter because he doesn’t have an out pitch?”
SDHotDawg
I never said that about Lauer. In fact, I debated that point the guy who did.
Grizalt
Comment was in response to Pads Fans. I actually hit reply to his comment but this site stops indenting comments after a certain point.
Pads Fans
Preller’s 1st draft was 2015. To have 6 pitchers make the majors within 3 years of that draft is outstanding. No one drafted since 2015 has had any chance to “get some dirt in their cleats”. Before you pronounce Preller a failure, how about you give credit where credit is due? He knocked it out of the park so far.
Mitchell was injured in spring training and pitched through it into early June. When he returned from a 3 month stint on the DL his velocity and command was back and he pitched very well. 2.19 ERA in those last 4 starts. He is throwing mid-90s already in camp. If he pitches well in spring training then Preller’s “project” could very well be a big win.
SDHotDawg
Mitchell has sat 96 from day one with the Yankees. He can’t pitch.
Pads Fans
If he is overrated, what was Willie Mays? Barry Bonds? Machado has been better to this point in his career than those two were. In fact, he ranks 34th all time through age 25. So glad that the Padres got such an overrated player.
jameyc
but sadly his prime years will most likely be wasted on another losing franchise,,but that money sure is nice.
kershawsgrandma22
Wow
ortsacnilrats
Finally!
AidanVega123
Wow
37santobanks
Finally!!
PeeWeeGaskins
OH SNAP!!
davidcoonce74
America! F Yeah!
Juicemane 2019
no no no, lets call it a “inexplicable” contract. right? lol you can’t like this. look at his away numbers. Pads are going to be paying Hos 13 mil in a couple years, but this contract is good???
do you still wish that we didn’t sign Myers or Hosmer?
If we only had Machado we would suck worse than last year?
davidcoonce74
The difference is that Machado was literally five times better than Hosmer last season. He’s a better hitter, defender and baserunner.
PickleRiccck
Reported for profanity. I know the F stands for Friars as in San Diego Padres.
Vizionaire
get a job and a room!
davidcoonce74
It’s from a movie!
Juicemane 2019
yes, and an awfully prophetic movie considering what happened last year.
joepanikatthedisco
that makes zero sense
gorav114
Really hope you’re joking??
scurvyrickets
His humor is far more sophisticated than ours…he’s a Rick and Morty fan!
Ryan W
Oh. My. Gosh!!!!!
canocorn
News Anchor:
“World War III broke out today, … but we’re going to get away from that for a while and bring you the latest on Manny Machado…”
walls17
I love it. Team is getting better. I’m gonna be watching a lot more of the Padres this year
Frisco500
I dont know about better. But they just got lazier and whole lot dirtier.
jdgoat
You’re an idiot if you don’t think they’re better.
pr0ject2501
We’ll they did just sign a player that throws his bat at pitchers.
youtu.be/65JTu0lxDSE
Koamalu
Padres were a 76-78 win team without Machado. Now they are an 81-83 win team. Add a couple of starting pitchers and they are contending for a WC.
SDHotDawg
One player – even Machado – does not suddenly make us a .500 team. You’ve seen our pitching, right?
I just hope we don’t end up like the 2001-2003 Rangers.
Pads Fans
@koamalu is essentially right. Las Vegas odds makers had the Padres at 77.5 wins before signing Machado. Fangraphs had the Padres at 76 wins before this signing.
Machado is at least 5 wins better than Ty France, Greg Garcia, or Pirela. That puts the Padres at or very close to .500 ball.
Now if they add a starter like Kluber who is 4-5 wins better than anyone else on the squad, they are close to contending for a Wild Card berth.
Grizalt
The same Vegas oddsmakers that had the Royals finishing last in their division in 2015?
Pads Fans
In 2015 the baseball writers like those at CBS had the Royals finishing last. Caesars Palace had them at 86.5 wins in their first line of the year. Others had them at 80.5 wins when the season started. They won 95 games.
No one is perfect, except you of course Ryan, but for the 2015 season the odds maker at Caesars Palace were within 2 wins for the league.
pustule bosey
Padres aren’t all that better this year, possibly in the next 2 years though
outinleftfield
The got 5 wins better in one player. Without Machado they were predicted to win 78 games. I would guess that a trade of an OF along with some prospects for a starting pitcher is coming in the next few days.
SDHotDawg
I hope you’re right about that.
Juicemane 2019
Nah, we will be pushing for a wild card this season.
This offense will score 6-7+ runs a game.
If our bullpen can be “historically good” like it was last year…we’re looking good.
endtheDH
“This offense will score 6-7+ runs a game”
lmao dude the top offense in baseball averaged 5.4 this year. Pads averaged 3.8. Manny is not going to give you 3 runs a game
jakec77
Machado not the only improvement on last year with young players arriving/developing, but yeah, they aren’t averaging 7 runs a game. They won’t even be the top offense.
Yelsnit
LOL!!!!!!
MB923
Awaits jokes for White Sox/Yankees fans
Congrats Padres.
Meow Meow
I’m just happy I won’t have to see him face the Sox 19 times/year anymore (assuming this story holds). He’s always such a pest at the plate D:
Bryzzo2016
Haha
Robertowannabe
Actually waiting for the Yankee and ChiSox fans all saying that they are happy that he did not sign with them and he is just not a good player…..
MB923
As a Yankee fan I’m already used to this lol
Jockstrapper
ikr.
jameyc
not from me and I’m a yankees fan. they simply did not need him, period. that lineup is already stacked and with the best overall pitching staff, bullpen included, in baseball.
benintendiimpersonator
This was the thing I was least expecting as I opened this tab
Yankeepride88
Padres going for it in the future? Bold move
david klein
Now Harper hopefully signs with the Giants.
norcalblue
Love to see that. Would make them a 75 win team, moving them down in the draft and sucking resources from the rebuild.
solaris602
Agreed. Signing Harper would be the absolute worst thing they could do. I think Zaidi knows better than to hang himself this early on in his tenure.
ncaachampillini
It would be astonishing if both these mega free agents sign with NL West teams. Nobody would have predicted that 3 months ago. Seriously doubt Harper signs in SF though.
Yelsnit
That way the Madres and Gnats could compete for last place in the division.
Redwolves3
Glad Machado is finally off the board. Time will tell how Machado impacts the Padres.
If Harper truly wants to be a Giant he will sign soon. Would definitely be an impact player both offensively, defensively and to other players around him.
Maybe the Giants need to have Pence and Lincecum give him a call. They can tell him about their experiences not just on the field but the support the fans will give him.
At this point, it’s definitely up to Harper. We can only wait and hope.
ChiSox_Fan
Even with uncertainty about Manager retiring after this year?
brucebochyisthemarlboroman
Oh boy!!! Here we go!!!!
deal1122
Ahahahahahaha the Padres!!
bigalcathey
8/275
LumberJerk9Billion
Finally this is over
ZGDC
About time! Harper to the Phillies up next
coastalcarolinachamps
no surprise.
frankiegxiii
Really? You knew all along where he was going and didn’t tell us!?
Slipknot37
Good job Padres! Surprised he signed with them but I like it
reflect
Wow it actually happened
DanzigInTheDark
LOVE IT
Tyson’s Pet Tiger
Harper is calling Philly but getting a busy signal
Brad Connelly
Damn Comcast lol.
Deve
underrated comment sir lol
ruffintumble 2
Lol!
PhilliePhan
I’m happy for the Padres fans. They should be very excited about this.
lowtalker1
Well that means phils get Harper
And padres sign an arm
solaris602
Keuchel is best available SP, and SD needs an ace badly.
Priggs89
Being the best SP available =/= being an ace
Wolverines2
Trade possibility as well.
bad bruce
Now the Padres can get possibly get to 70 wins !!!
taylorcm
With both the Rockies & D’Backs potentially taking a step back. They seem positioned well for the future.
outinleftfield
Padres were projected to win 78 before this signing.
SDHotDawg
By whom? And you take it seriously? I just saw today on MLB Network that they’re “still” projected at 68.
You really can’t put much stock in those projections and rankings.
Pads Fans
No you didn’t. MLB Network on 3 different programs today showed the Padres as projected at 77.5 wins by Caesar’s Palace and 76 wins by Fangraphs. The different programs must share the same graphic, because it was exactly the same one on all three.
Las Vegas casinos make or lose billions based on those projections, so I personally put the most stock in them of any projections and they are usually very close to the final outcome.
southi
Good to hear for San Diego. It has seemingly been a long time since a big name free agent signed with them (not counting the puzzling signing of Hosmer).
slowcurve
Why would you not count Hosmer? He was literally a big name free agent.
southi
Simply because no one doubts that Machado is an impact player but at least half of the “experts” seriously questioned the Hosmer signing. Hosmer simply isn’t a difference making firstbaseman. Machado is a difference maker whether he plays as or third.
slowcurve
I’ll have to respectfully disagree. No comparison needed between the two players. Hosmer was a big name free agent. He signed with the Padres. You said “it has seemingly been a long time since a big name free agent signed with [the Padres]”. I just found it to be an odd statement. I certainly didn’t mean Hosmer is the same caliber player as Machado, but he’s no minor league pickup either.
acarneglia
Wow! Congrats Padres. Bryce shortly
cubsfan2489
X, where you at?
xXabial
haha I was awaiting for that response.
Grizalt
You’re like in love with him I swear
Isthisserious
I still think he’a going to the Yanks, book it!
dellarocco72
Now go sign Kimbrel and Keuchel!!
nats3256
Didnt they already have 1 round of Kimbrel?
Solar Flare
Yes
Grizalt
Yup. Then they traded him for a haul of prospects then turned around and paid Fernando Rodney $3m to be better the following season than Kimbrel was. Overpaying for relievers is the last thing the Padres need to do.
Scott Kliesen
It’s so fun telling others how to spend their money!
lowtalker1
Where is that white Sox guy at that talked smack to me yesterday
Bryzzo2016
Hahaha … ~crickets~
Padres2019ha
Where are all the Padre haters now. Eat crow snitches
lewisbrinsonisgod
The Padres still stink.
They won’t in a few years though.
Padres2019ha
So does Lewis Brinson?? You still stink. But you can always shower
Scott Kliesen
If you think Machado was a lazy player last year, just wait for this year now that he has 300 million reasons to not hustle.
pr0ject2501
There are no padres haters. Because no one thinks about them. They’ve always been a doormat, always will be.
Smelly_Cobb
not true, mostly dodger fans love talking about the padres
BrewersMVP08
put makeup on a pig, still a pig underneath.
herecomethephillies2018
One down one to go…
Priggs89
Great job, Jerry.
Aaron Sapoznik
Bridesmaid in free agency yet again. That being said I had always preferred the Bryce Harper fit in the White Sox batting order over Manny Machado but fat chance JR will outbid the “stupid money” that the Phillies will offer.
Priggs89
I have also preferred Harper this entire time, but Kenny already said they couldn’t go to $300M (despite having a ridiculously low payroll after this year) because they need to build a “full team.” It’s probably not happening.
Willy Mays
Why do so many people “prefer” Harper., Harper has hit under 250 2 of the last 3 years In 7 years he’s hit over 30 hrs twice. He is a trainwreck defensively.Please explain yourselves
GoCubsGo
Jerry is bad for the city. The family has completely flat-lined the proud Bulls franchise and he has run the Sox like they play in Tulsa, OK or something. With as close as the Sox huge prospects are to the show, a big signing like this is something that would have energized the fan base and helped kick start a run in what looks like the weakest division in baseball. I would be willing to bet increased ticket and merchandise sales would’ve helped make up for the huge expenditure.
Priggs89
Because he has shown (multiple times) that he can be ELITE with his bat, and even in a “down year,” like last year, he still put up a ~.900 OPS. His value to an organization also goes far beyond just what he does on the field, which I think is VERY important for a team like the White Sox.
Personally, if I’m paying a guy $30M/yr, it’s 90+% because of the impact he makes with his bat. Either that, or he plays elite defense at a premium position and still has a very good bat (someone like Lindor). Defense is great, but I’m not paying a non-premium position player $30M/yr because he’s a great defender or baserunner; that’s asking for a disaster (hi, Jason Heyward).
Plus, I don’t buy that he’s a “train wreck defensively.” Yes, he was brutal last year, but he was always fine before that. I’d have to imagine not self-preservation played a pretty big role in that (i.e. not wanting to get hurt before his big payday). I don’t necessarily agree with it, but I have a hard time faulting him for that with the amount he has/had to lose. He’s also not a centerfielder, so playing him out there for ~500 innings last year is on the Nats, not him.
Note – NONE of this is a knock on Manny. I’ve said many, many times that I’d happily take either. I’ve also defended Manny’s “Johnny Hustle” comments in many threads. I think he’s a very good player, and I would’ve had no problem with the White Sox paying him $30M/yr – I just prefer Harper.
Aaron Sapoznik
My preference for Bryce Harper had to do with his career .900 OPS left-handed bat which the White Sox seem to lack in their system. I view him as a better fit batting in front of right-handed uber power hitting prospect Eloy Jimenez. Harper’s ability to also get on base (.388 career OBP), along with the likelihood of Luis Robert and Nick Madrigal occupying the leadoff and #2 spots as soon as 2020 would provide better balance to a future White Sox batting order that leans right-handed.
I realize prospects are called that for a reason. That being said, I feel confident that Jimenez, Robert and Madrigal will become future impact players along with another right-handed bat in Jake Burger who will play at one of the infield corners spots, most likely 1B.
kroeg49
As a lifelong White Sox fan, I agree that neither Manny or Bryce is worth this type of money. That being said, I had hoped the Sox would have signed Machado, if for no other reasons, showing the fans that wins mean more than dollars for this billionaire. Every year we are the free agent bridesmaid that continues our fate as cellar dwellers. Maybe tightwad Jerry should have been allowed to move the White Sox to Tampa in the 80’s. Then maybe we would have been lucky to get an expansion team in Chicago with owners wanting to win for a faithful fan base. Increased revenue would have easily paid for Manny’s salary. I hope we draw about 10-12 thousand a game. Hopefully that will then inspire Jerry to sell our team to someone serious. In another slap to the White Sox fans, why are you so loyal to your incompetent employees at the expense of a wining atmosphere and team. Disgusted that KW still has any type of job with the White Sox. There’s my rant. Not going to expect any excitement from the White Sox in 2019 and beyond.
davidcoonce74
Harper gets on base. A lot. He creates lots of runs by getting on base. The goal of a baseball hitter is to get on base, and not make outs. Harper is exceptional at those things. Those things lead to runs. Runs win games. The end.
Rallyshirt
Could’ve been the MAN in Chicago. Now he’s just some guy in San Diego.
stymeedone
Yes, Padres have so many superstars, Machado fades to the background.
Rallyshirt
It’s true. The guy passed on plus incentives, playing with his friends and family, franchise centerpiece in a world class city while Cub fans switch sides in droves.
He’s just kinda ordinary now. He skipped the biggest deal any club has ever put together for easy cash. Cya.
davidcoonce74
I like how you completely contradicted yourself in that last sentence, in just ten words. He skipped the most biggest deal for more money? Huh? Which is it?
Also, I truly doubt that one season playing alongside Jon Jay and Yonder Alonso figured much into his decision to sign a long-term deal. And it’s not like San Diego is some podunk town or something.
And I lived in Chicago; Cubs fans and White Sox fans aren’t “switching sides” for anything; I lived there when the Sox won the WS and I’ll tell you, there weren’t Cubs fans “switching sides” even for that.
Rallyshirt
Okay, it pains me to return to this subject, but for what it’s worth I’d like to make clear, the deal the White Sox placed on the table is valued higher than SD’s.
Second, referring to my earlier post, THE MAN deal was offered by CWS. Machado took a lesser deal in sleepy SD.
Third, his friends make it a new level deal, assuring he does not slump during 1st year adjustment period. Ground breaking, if you look deeper. It’s like they offered him a “Legendary Deal”.
I live in Chicago and I assure you many Cub fans are switching to the Sox in response to race political issues with Cub ownership and legal issues with players.
A two second search on Chicago Tribune and you’ll see this unusual situation between north and south sides.
I’m not saying SD is podunk. I’m saying Chicago is a major market and media world class city. To pass coming here, with the highest expectations, with full ownership commitment to essentially make Machado comparable potentially to the Michael Jordan of baseball, and instead take guaranteed $$ in a beach bed and breakfast city is not only an insult to himself, his representation, but also to any baseball fan who reads more than the headline of a trade deal.
Grizalt
TIL that $250m is valued higher than $300m
Swinging Friars
yikes
serious case of sour grapes here
Rallyshirt
I’m upset the media heralds this decision and says “poor White Sox” instead of the truth “The guy or his agent is an idiot”.
What you guys are failing to see is you’ve paid him to sit on his *** for what turns out to be less money. White Sox paid for him to play, to back it up, to achieve, to be a legend, a man deal. You guys paid him for some casual bragging rights and to fill the void ticket sales after your competitive-level football team leaves. Which BTW, I’m sorry about.
Rallyshirt
If anything I’m spurred at the media for how they blew off any legitimate analysis of the actual unprecedented deal, and took the shortcut heralding SD’s acquisition winning out against the “now angered White Sox organization”.
There are many baseball fans that wanted the White Sox deal for the sake of the game itself because of the deal offered. I can’t be bothered explaining all the reasons why. White Sox deal was legendary. SD deal in comparison is merely an unreasonable promise proven to be a mistake by every ball club’s unwillingness to go 10 years on any player ever again. Why should fans root for this now unless they’re trying to be obnoxious?
All I can say is good luck.
Swinging Friars
haha
Sour grapes with a capital s!
Swinging Friars
you are not trying at all…..this post is not obnoxious at all…
bhaahahahahahahaah!
Grizalt
He also has the potential to make more than $300m with the Padres deal. He has an opt-out. So if he’s still mashing 5 years from now, he can re-enter free agency and try for more money.
tigersfan1320
You’d have to think this means Harper will be going to the Phillies now
the outlaw
Almost anti climatic now
Grizalt
Holy…
lefty58
At least the White Sox have all of his friends and relatives.
Bryzzo2016
LMAO
bobtillman
Also……
eric9690
I’m a sox fan and it makes me so angry we are now stuck with two 30yr old replacement players in an attempt to coax machado to sign for less money. Especially with 5 outfield prospects, and a perennial all star at 1st base before this off-season started.
Bryzzo2016
It’s cool, if the Padres visit the South Side this year, Manny will have people to have dinner with. It’s a win win… as long as you’re not a Sox fan.
gogosox40
For the perennial all star at 1st base are you referring to Abreu or a prospect?
tharrie0820
Abreu, since every team has to have 1 representative and who else would go from that team?
frankiegxiii
Don’t worry, your farm is stacked, W.Sox will be contending soon enough
canocorn
These things happen for a reason. As much as I wanted Manny on a our side, we’re still in a great place. Not sour grapes, just making the most of what we’ve got to work with!!!
canocorn
These things happen for a reason. As much as I wanted Manny on a our side, we’re still in a great place. Not sour grapes, just making the most of what we’ve got to work with!!!
jameyc
prospects are still prospects, and the chance of more than 2 or 3 of them panning out is possible.
logan26
He doesn’t care about winning. Just the money
david klein
Padres a year or two away from being real good
JT19
Oh boo he’s trying to set him and his family up for the future. Shame on him for taking the big payday that almost every other single person in the world would gladly take.
Wolverines2
Would be pretty sweet deal to make that much money and be a star on a franchise that is getting very close to being very good for a long time.
Moneyballer
Do they expect Machado to pitch for them?
lapadsfan
Padres have a glut of pitching about to break into the majors.
Senioreditor
They have a few pitching prospects
Dave 32
falling in love with prospects will break your heart…
it’s one thing to have guys who look lights out in AAA, and then they get to the Majors and guys show them what’s really up. Or the season long workload leaves them injured in August. I’d keep my expectations low. It’s way easier for a team to acquire starters than it is to develop them and have them all mature at the right time to make a run.
Moneyballer
No offense but the guys you have in your starting five right now were prospects not long ago and they turned into average to below-average mlb starters. I don’t see anyone in your farm just blowing hitters away. Sorry!
SdPadSquad
Right but these aren’t the highly coveted guys. You probably haven’t heard of Logan Allen, Chris Paddack and McKenzie Gore. When those guys come up you can talk. Until then your comment really isn’t valid. But hey everyone is entitled to their own opinion!
Padres458
Who though? Luchessi, lauer were never top 100 guys. Those two are 2016 draftees. I’m still excited about them. No one in the padres rotation has recently been regarded as a great prospect
Four4fore
Trying to win 10-9 everyday?
Wolverines2
Dude…between prospects, surplus at other positions to trade from, and a clear willingness to spend, pitching will be ok. Nobody predicting playoffs this year in San Diego, but give me a break. If you don’t see where it is heading over the next few years, you are not paying attention.
Four4fore
Deep farm system means winning games at a lower level. Potential means maybe.
Jake1972
Cubs sign Harper and trade Chatwood, Russell, and J-Hey to the Giants for a class A player…
Kidding.
Congrats Friar Fans…
southbeachbully
Wow. Good for Manny I guess? I know he wanted to be a Yankee and all but my guess is, he and his family will be fine. Good to see a smaller market team step up. Hopefully, they can afford to build a good team around him and keep him for the long haul of his deal.
Scott Kliesen
San Diego is a “smaller” market? Than LA I suppose, but it isn’t ever going to be confused with KC, Milwaukee, or Pittsburgh.
davidcoonce74
I’m predicting that within one hour this thread will break the MLBTR record for “comments”.” I also predict about half those comments will reference some dumb thing said once about “not hustling” while ignoring the body of work.
elscorchot
You’re the first to add those comments
davidcoonce74
First!
Wolverines2
Absolutely, no question about that…
Oxford Karma
Not one person mentioned that before you did.
PalmaBoy
Half of the record comments will be yours, of which 99% will be yoir standard self bravado. All while you dont have the first clue what it takes to run an ML club.
Grizalt
Or morons talking about how Machado will be traded within one year, as if the other 29 teams didn’t all have the ability to pay him all that money this offseason and didn’t all collectively say “No thanks.”
Bryzzo2016
Wait…no, this must be fake news. He’s signing with the Northwest Indiana White Sux! If you don’t believe me, just ask one of their dozens of fans.
excusemeflo
Come on, stop making Cubs fans look bad with garbage like this
Kelly Wunsch N' Munch
Bryzzo2016
You’ve got to be the most pathetic person that posts to this page. Do everyone a favor, and please go away. You’re an inept Cub fanboy with nothing to add to any baseball conversation (except perhaps Cub news).
thurmanmerman33
$100 says Bryzzo isn’t from or doesn’t live in Chicago. He has to be from California. Im a Sox fan but follow the cubs closely because so much air time is dedicated to them in Chicago. There is no point in hating them because they literally have no impact on what the Sox are trying to accomplish. I think true Chicagoans on both sides of town would agree. Bryzzo regurgitates the same crap over and over again on every comment “bust bust bust, northwest Indiana white sux, proven core, irrelevant, blah blah blah”. He criticizes fans that repeat what they read in articles then goes and quotes what analyst are saying about a particular prospect. He literally contradicts everything he says. He embodies the stereotype that cubs fans have but don’t deserve. What I find ironic is he is so critical of the Sox rebuild and says that prospects are not proven but praises a potential future playoff opponent (Padres) saying they will be “extremely fun to watch” because of the prospects that will be called up this year. Hilarious.
Kwflanne
Wow! Very happy this happened. Really hope they pass on Harper now. This is just fine. And let him play SS to start the season with Kinsler at third… DO NOT move Urias as a rookie. Nice move Padres. Hate the person…. attitude, effort, etc… it alls comes off bad…. but the player?? Oh I’ll take that any day
osfandan
As an Orioles fan, your assessment is dead on.
fmj
Good for baseball that he’s signing with an “underdog”
Equinsu Ocha
would have rather had Harper. How long do you suppose the ChiSox will hang on to Machado’s buddies?
lowtalker1
Until the trade deadline at the latest
PhilliePhan
Being reported as 10 years $300 million
c ya
25 years, 280
MB923
10 year/$300 million according to Feinsand. Biggest FA contract ever (we will see how long that lasts)
xabial
MB923, you’re one of my favorite Yankee posters.
On a Scale of 1-100, our chances of signing Harper?
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
I guess this signals a new era in Padres baseball. This is exciting. Wow!
pullhitter445
White Sox are a typical jerry reinsdorf trash organization. His front offices in two separate leagues would mess up a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Priggs89
This is 100% on Jerry, not the rest of the front office.
Bryzzo2016
You’ll always have the memory of signing Albert Belle… or was it Joey? lol
KP23
Unrelated but I remember Bruce levine coming out and tweeting that the sox wouldn’t go over 8 years, and over 250 to sign Machado. Everyone was trashing levine about only being a cub beat writer and a specific quote I saw was
“the next time Bruce levine is right about anything Sox related will be the first time ”
Well looks like he was right all along…
canocorn
puller;
Don’t criticize what you can’t understand.
spudchukar
Good for Baseball.
g55s
Wonder if his opt out clause is game by game instead of season?
tony gwynn
We did it… we actually did it. I must say I’m utterly stunned. Still a lot of work to do, but what a major step in the right direction. Congratulations, Padres!!!
bleacherbum
Let’s go!!! #friarfaithful
Soldierofgod619
Padres making moves when everyone though they were just clickbait.
osfandan
I knew I should have taken the +600 odds on him signing there! I had a feeling.
SFGiantsGallore
Holy guacamole!
ZGDC
Great to see a smaller-market team get such a big fish
lowtalker1
Maybe the padres will finally dfa pirela but I’m guessing it will be Guerra since he wears number 8
Grizalt
Nope. Lamet to 60-day DL
vtadave
Our long national nightmare is over.
driftcat28 2
Wow. I bet he gets traded in a couple of seasons
Lefty Grove’s right hand
It’s over. It’s finally over.
robertj53086
Minor league deal?
southbeachbully
I wonder if this will compel the Giants to sign Harper? Looks like the Giants might be the bottom feeder in the West in 2019. Them or the Rockies right? Then again, with the 2020 manager being a question mark would Harper sign there not knowing who might be the manager next year?
VonPurpleHayes
Harper will sign with whatever team gives him the best off. I believe the Phillies will win that bidding war, but who knows?
Jake1972
I have a funny feeling Joe Maddon will be the Giants next skipper…
Polymath
Jake, most interesting comment I read on here today. Very possible.
thethrill
As a Giants fan, Why the Rockies? They will probably finish 2nd! I think DBacks finish in last, they lost too many guys (Goldy, Corbin, Pollack, etc).
I predict Dodgers, Rockies, Padres, Giants, DBacks but I could see any of SD, SF, Arz finishing last.
jbigz12
Them or the Rockies? The Rockies have at least 2 high level pitchers possibly 3 with gray. They still have Arenado,Trevor Story. Charlie Blackmon and they added Daniel Murphy. Id bet on a better year out of wade davis as well. The giants have the ghost of Evan Longoria at 3rd and the worst collection of outfielders west of Cleveland. Not to mention the D’Backs who lost Goldy, Corbin and Pollock. Rockies still look like the 2nd best in the division to me.
24TheKid
He’s going to miss hitting in Camden Yards.
slowcurve
Wow! Finally. Enjoy the hustle SD! (and the 30 HRs and 90 RBI)
VonPurpleHayes
Good on the Padres.
Bryzzo2016
Good for the Padres! This will definitely speed up their rebuild. Tatis Jr will be up soon, thanks to someone taking No Game Shields of their hands. The Padres are gonna be exciting pretty soon!
Priggs89
You have a strange obsession with the White Sox.
Bryzzo2016
No, reload your twitter feed. This has NOTHING to do with the Sux, Manny signed with SAN DIEGO. The Padres… The San Diego Padres. Like Manny, no one cares about the Northwest Indiana White Sux.
Priggs89
Nobody but you, obviously.
canocorn
Still can’t get over 2005 I see.
Foreveryankees
They can have the cancer!
butch779988
Typical Yankee comment.
If they got him”greatest thing since sliced bread”
Wolverines2
Damn butch, you beat me to it….
Ichiro51
Just because a Yankee makes a comment you do not like doesn’t mean the moron is a typical Yankee. I think Manny is awesome no matter what team he’s on. I did not want Manny on the team because of how much he cost. However, you sound like a “typical Yankee hater”
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
Wait — Manny has cancer? Why wasn’t the media informed? Do the Padres know? You wait until NOW to come out with these details? SHame on you yankeedoodle. Shame on you. This changes everything!
nmc420theambassador
the hype is lit fam
joepanikatthedisco
First real face of the franchise since Trevor Hoffman. About time for San Diego!
SargentDownvote
As a Friars fan, I am already preparing for my team to shop him mid-season.
Harper is going to San Fran.
Phillies can keep their crazy money.
slowcurve
Pretty sure being a fan of 4 teams automatically revokes your right to use “my team” regarding any of those teams.
Willy Mays
Question to all of those guys saying he will be traded in the next couple of years. Why would any team not willing to pay this much now be willing to give up other players to pay him the same amount later getting fewer of the good years and more over the 30+ years. Doesn’t make a lot of sense
A'sfaninLondonUK
Willy – you are an oasis of sense in a desert of tomfoolery….
Willy Mays
Hey thanks A’s fan. That’s a great line. Can I use that
mrpadre19
I don’t think he will be traded either but..
.Teams needs change.
Teams have large contracts come off the books.
Teams find themselves in a pennant race needing a “big bat”.
Teams sometimes have a glut of prospects and fewer roster spots.
Just a few reasons it “could” happen.
Grizalt
Nope. If they wanted to pay Machado this kind of money they’d have done it now. His stock is the highest it has ever been with the season he had.
SdPadSquad
Maybe the Padres under their old ownership. No one seems to realize this new owner group and GM system doesn’t trade away talent anymore. This isn’t the same group that destroyed our team 10 years ago. Enough with that
Grizalt
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Willy Mays
Padresfanatic I don’t know whether you’re trying to make fun of me or agrreeing with me but I think the Lisa Simpson link is verycool
Grizalt
Comment was in response to Sox-Yanks-Friars-BJaysFan
Willy Mays
That makes it even better. Thanks for the laugh and I obviously agree with you
ffjsisk
Wow, good for both parties.
McScotty
10year 300million
DadsInDaniaBeach
I for one do not think this makes Harper to the Phils inevitable at all..in fact, I think it makes it more difficult for them..I now expect the Nationals to step it up to get him back..
raef715
i was assuming Phils were keeping Machado on hold until they knew they had Harper…but you never know, Machado may have gotten impatient and the Padres blinked on the 300 mil mark.
After that article about the Nats being better without Harper last week, would be quite interesting to see him return there.
VonPurpleHayes
I agree that it doesn’t make Harper to Philly more inevitable, but what makes you think this affects the Nationals at all? I don’t think the Nats had any interest in Machado. I think they of course still have interest in Harper, but I don’t think the Machado deal affected it one way or the other.
I am not arguing. Just curious to hear your opinion.
I still think the likeliest Harper destinations are Nationals, Phillies, Giants, White Sox and Yankees, You can never count out the Yankees even when the move makes no sense.
guille
The Nats are better off without Harper. Soto/Robles/Eaton crazy OF, great lineup, insane top of rotation. They´ll probably win WS this year, remember my words.
VonPurpleHayes
The Nats are NOT better off without Harper. It’ll be crazy to think Harper does not help improve that already good team.
That being said, the Nats did improve drastically this offseason. I can see them making a run without Harper, but Harper averages a career 3.0 WAR. So saying he doesn’t improve any team is just bitterness.
bad bruce
10 years $300 mil
ramonskee
They’re idiots. They can have him for at price. I’m glad Rick Hahn and the Sox didn’t given to those ridiculous demands. Score another one for the superstar agents who know a dumba$$ team will eventually come along and pay the asking price.
Bryzzo2016
Hahahaha, this comment is so transparent. We knew this would happen. Kenny was practically in tears when he heard the news. Just like you and the dozens of other Sux fans. Hey, keep your head up, you’ll always have Albert Belle to prove you’re big time free agent players… or was it Joey? Lol
ramonskee
You (a Cubs fan) and I have the same amount of WS titles in our lifetimes and it took you 11 more years to get yours. And no, a second title is not guaranteed for your amazing dynasty of a team. Not sure why you’re riding your high horse around today – your team is unable to sign Bryce Harper today because your GM is terrible decision-maker when it comes to handing out big money deals (see Jayson Heyward and Yu Darvish – those two names should be Bryce Harper and Jake Arrieta).
AtlSoxFan
At least they got Lester and that HOF pick off move to 1st base… 😉
Bryzzo2016
Hahaha, you mean the proven champion Lester? Lester is a better pitcher on his off days throwing side sessions than any of the bums the south siders throw out there on the bump. Wait…. didn’t this site JUST highlight the worst rotations in baseball and weren’t the Sux at the top of the list?! Hahahaha, clown.
Jake1972
I will agree I would prefer Jake over Darvish but for some reason I prefer J-Hey over Harper.
Signings like Chatwood and Darvish has hurt the Cubs more than J-Hey.
niched
Nice reply
billysbballz
Wow
I’ll bet anyone on here he doesn’t stay in San Diego 5 years of the contract
CursedRangers
I concur. He will be traded way before his contract is up
Wolverines2
You guys are hilarious.
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
Why would he be traded before his contract is up? I don’t understand. My understanding is that he will be way too busy winning world series titles to want to get traded.
Begamin
You should look at the last time the Padres won the offseason. They sold off everybody they signed.
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
Benjamin — very different circumstances. 2015 was more of a “let’s try it and see if it works. Excite the fan base. Maybe the stars will align.” This is structured around a context of building up the best minor league system in baseball, maybe the best in quite some time.
maximumvelocity
Hahn blew this big time. I hope they plan on pursuing someone like Keuchel, because they have done nothing to improve the roster for the long term.
Priggs89
A deal this big is a Jerry decision, not a Hahn one.
dellarocco72
They have 10 of the top 100 prospects. That improves their roster long term.
Sports
I hope the padres sign Harper also. Would be incredible.
Wade Herbers
What’s the over/under on how many years it will be until Manny wants out? I’ll take 3 years. Bold move by the Friars!!!! Congrats Padres fans!!
Danbino
That’s a ton of money between Machado and Hosmer for SD. They are really banking on these prospects panning out or will we see a Marlins style firesale in 3 years?
arc89
Manny better produce because one not running out a pop up will have fans quickly turn on him.
thegreatcerealfamine
Everyone’s thoughts exactly.
Odd
They are reporting Machado can opt out after 5 years, so maybe he’ll just leave if the team doesn’t improve
Danbino
That is definitely possible. But Stanton had opt outs too and got traded before it.
I’d love for this all to work out for SD. I like their park and SD is a great city. Would love to see their franchise in consistent contention.
Odd
He was never going to sign with the white Sox, not with that low ball offer they tried to give him
lefty58
Even if they offered top dollar, the White Sox are not a destination people choose voluteerily.
Odd
Completely agree, the w/Sox are not a place any players want to go, seems like all reinsdorf owned teams are not a “destination” any players want to go t
ramonskee
What was the low ball offer? Did Manny show it to you? Or are you his agent on a burner account? Don’t be a sheep.
Odd
Going by what was reported, and you call me a sheep, we’re all on a rumor site fellow sheep
ramonskee
What was reported? 8y/$250M is what most sources pointed to. That 7/$175M was shot down immediately and never reported again. I stand corrected, you’re not a sheep but rather a troll.
Odd
I’m listening to the w/Sox beat writer, stated that all signs pointed at 8 years, low $200 mil, you can hear more about it later when Ken Williams said he didn’t think Machado was going to get $300 million and that he though the w/Sox were the highest bidders, then say that they could not go to $300 mil, now pay the troll
ramonskee
“Low 200s” can be 200 – 220? So 8/240 is not far off from 8/220. Definitely not a “low ball” offer. And I’m glad they didn’t go up to 300 – that’s just reckless. The 2019 Padres = the 2000 Texas Rangers.
ramonskee
Per Ken Rosenthal: White Sox offer was 8/$250M and with incentives it would’ve been worth way more than $300M. I’ll quietly watch you walk out of the room with your tail tucked between your legs.
pr0ject2501
HA!
canocorn
OverDosedDope – “… and you call me a sheep, we’re all on a rumor site fellow sheep”
Thaaaat’s your daaaad!
Odd
ramonskee, I’ll see if any player in their right mind would take a deal that has incentives to make the guaranteed money he got at the end of the contract, after you’ve already played through your prime years, tell me what player would want to prove they are worth incentives when they are at retirements door? When a team just gave you a guaranteed contract, my point stands and it’s proven, w/Sox are cheap, no top tear free agent will sign with a reinsdork owned team, and yeah, with no opt-out, as per team policy, ha ha ha, they are running the team as if this was still the 1980’s-90’s, bunch of clowns, just like you
Phanatic 2022
They should look at kuechel now
Rocklobster
Double win for the Yanks. 1) Didn’t spend 30m per for 10 yrs 2) Machado is in the NL for at least 5 yrs. I think the Yanks should look hard at Dallas K. What is he looking for 15m-18m for 4 yrs?
nymetsking
Manny Who?
lefty58
It’ll be interesting to see how front loaded it is and where the opt-outs are.
c1234
Wow this is huge. Happy for the Padre fans! Now hopefully the FA Market can speed up a little now I assume.
jdolan74
It’s funny how everyone was saying no way Manny gets his $300MM, he waited too long, he misread the market, blah, blah, blah… let the agents do their job.
CalcetinesBlancos
So is Tony Clark going to STFU now?
Solar Flare
Not until Harper and Kimbrel get their ridiculous contracts.
canocorn
Does the Pope sit in the woods?
greenbaygiants
Smart move for Machado and SD. I’m sure he’s got an opt-out in three years that will let him test the waters again. Biggest risk for the Pads is he doesn’t get hurt, but also doesn’t live up to the contract. Probably worth the shot since they’ll have good and inexpensive talent around him.
kershawsgrandma22
Holy crap 6 years $450 million!
Thor-DarkKnight-CaptainAmerica-16
Shocking! He took the most money and longest years. Good luck Manny. And good luck Padre fans.
stretch123
The question now is if SFG will pony up and offer Harper 325 million… my money is on the Phils but be cautious of SF.
HarveyD82
Reminds me of Arod and Texas. All money no WS
Roll
i was thinking same thing .. trade to yankees in 2 years when some money off the books?
VonPurpleHayes
Arod did very well in Texas. That’s the example I give of long-term deals that DO work out. Winning a WS takes a lot.
Arod performed really well in that timeframe and put a lot of butts in seats.
niched
It worked out for ARod but not for the Rangers. That team wasn’t balanced enough to win even after signing the best hitter in the game. Interesting how they got good years later without him
Wolverines2
Except one of those things happened in the past and the other hasn’t yet.
theredsoxrule
who cares about winning when you’re making 300mill…
dugdog83
Padres fans
Cardinalsfan4ever
He can’t pitch, run the bases or hustle. You will find this out. OVERRATED.
csspackler
In other words, you’re jealous as hell.
Bryzzo2016
Exactly. The Cards fans were setting themselves when they thought they were getting Stanton. Basically the same contract for a player that only hits bombs, nowhere near the player that Machado is. Then of course, Stanton wanted no part of STL because it’s BORING among other things… so naturally they have to shift and talk nonsense to save face. STL fans would be ecstatic to attract a free agent like Machado. Hahaha, is transparent. Watch, when Goldy signs w/ the Yankees next winter, they’ll claim they didn’t want to keep him either.
pullhitter445
Anyone else envisioning bryzzo16 as a 5 ft 4inch Napoleon complexed boy in his upper 20’s still living with mommy and daddy, spending his work day glued to his phone instead of actually being productive for his company? Probably drives a pickup truck along with many other ways to compensate for his short comings
Wolverines2
I love how a Cardinals fan is telling Padres fans what we will find out about a player who has spent his career in Baltimore and Los Angeles. We have electricity on the West Coast too. We follow the game, know who has talent, etc. You aren’t a coach or scout for the Orioles I would assume, so your expertise is far from necessary. Enjoy the rest of your winter.
DarkSide830
…and still is a top flight player
trident
Trade for Kluber next?
Ralphie
He’ll get traded within 3 years.
Jake1972
Depends on his production and if he is helping to fill seats. I see him opting out when he has the chance if the market is strong for him.
davidcoonce74
If he is traded in three year he’ll be 29 and the return would be incredible. No fears, though at all. He’s the superstar that a great farm system can be built around.
Grizalt
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heater
What do you have to say Tony Clark?
BrewCrew1302
Dodgers still going to win the division every season lmao cheers to 3rd place
Vizionaire
dodgers have no balls to win when it matters!
frankiegxiii
Does it not matter during the regular season?
Wolverines2
And what if we said this to the Brewers 3 years ago?
Bryzzo2016
It would be bullying to say that to Brewer fans. You do realize that the Brewers have made the playoffs just 4 times in THEIR ENTIRE PATHETIC EXISTENCE with exactly ZERO rings to show for it… ever. To put that in perspective, the Cubs have made the playoffs 4 times …. IN THE LAST 4 YEARS. Including 3 straight NLCS and a RING. So the Cubs have literally accomplished more in just the last 4 years than the Brewers have… EVER. So, we don’t pick on the sad Brewers trolls, low hanging fruit, just move on. Let them sit in the corner and eat their paste in peace.
dellarocco72
In other news … Jon Jay and Yonder Alonso designated for assignment.
DarkSide830
they might be the second and third best players on that team this year…
southpaw2153
Padres will still win nothing. Thank heavens the Yanks blew off this guy.
Wolverines2
And if you had signed him you’d be talking about how he is a perfect fit. joke.
Begamin
a lot yankees fans were begging that the yankees PASS on both harper and machado. i would say it was half and half between all yankees fans. the smarter ones didnt want either and the dumber would just say that George wouldve got both. but believe whatever half-truth you want to fit your personal narrative.
niched
I’m an O’s fan and kind of agree with you. I think the Yanks dodged a bullet. Manny’s worst tendencies are getting the better of him. He’s gotten cocky without really being competitive. He needs to find what made him great in the first place because it went missing while he was in LA
Boogaloo
Better hope those prospects lije up to the hype.
Otherwise you got 50 million a year in machado and Hosmer and not much else
Cardinalsfan4ever
No way would I want that kind of player.
Wolverines2
…You are the reason baseball has fallen behind football and basketball.
theredsoxrule
@Wolverines2 why ? what’s wrong with not wanting to sign a player because he’s a jackass?
Begamin
baseball has fallen behind because it doesnt appeal to the kids. the answer to that is video games but MLB doesnt see it. madden and 2k got so many kids into the sports of football and basketball. i mean, just look at how a terrible game like fortnite gets so popular and then look at how there is only one baseball game worth getting and its stuck on one console and is a stagnant mess with no budget
DadsInDaniaBeach
Really? 10 years $300m…what does that say to what Bryce will get…could be huge
heater
Harper to LAD.
frankiegxiii
334 million a year from their TV deal alone and they still won’t go after him…
sethesq
Good for San Diego!
Reeve
Wow. Congrats to the Padre fans. I’m sure most are excited as hell now and they should be.
met man
This should open up the flood gates for many more free agent signings
BrewCrew1302
clearly all about the money and not the chance to win right now
Wolverines2
Well it’s a 10 year contract and they have the best system in baseball so…
BrewersMVP08
doesn’t mean any are going to pan out. idk why he didn’t go to philly. instant postseason contender as soon as you sign
Wolverines2
I guess Keston Hiura probably won’t pan out either. That would really be something if none of the Padres 10 players in the top 100 pan out. Yikes…its also called prospect capital…Every now and then, teams trade established players for excellent prospects.
Grizalt
If none of the Padres’ prospects are going to pan out what makes you think any of the Phillies’ prospects will pan out? Both teams will need at least a couple guys from the farm to pay dividends if they want to contend.
Not Xabial
Really cool to see a small-market team get a player of this caliber. Obviously they won’t contend this year or next, but I’m excited to see how the Pads future plays out. Good for them.
sandman12
On behalf of the USA and State of California, thank you to Manny Machado for the $142M donation!
Coast1
The state of California doesn’t have a 47% tax rate. It only feels that way.
LongBeachPadre
LETS GOOO FRIAR FAITHFUL!! IM SO HAPPY I CANT CONTAIN MYSELF!! BEAT LA!
frankiegxiii
Beat L.A.? Magic 8 Ball says “Don’t count on it”.
Scott Kliesen
Couple thoughts:
1. I guess Adam Wainwright won’t be chirping about players going on strike this season anymore.
2. Do the Dodgers & Giants feel pressure to overpay for Harper now?
Bryzzo2016
No, the Padres (although exciting) are still not a threat to the Dodgers in the NL West this year. The Giants… too many horrible contracts, they won’t be a threat to contend next year even w/ Harper. Bryce is going to Philly.
bleacherbum
Let’s goooooooooo!!!!!!!
Disco Dave
RIP Padres
Disco Dave
diagnosis is in…
cancer
Vizionaire
yup! you.
ScottRC
And the Padres will come to regret it no more than two years later.
Al Jab
They better bring the fences in, this has disaster written all over it
Vizionaire
congrats, padres and machado!
MB_
I wonder what this means for Urias and Tatis. I’d assume Manny stays at SS, so Urias to 2nd and Tatis to 3rd?
Joe Kerr
only if they are dumb. Why would they move an incredible 3rd baseman to SS and a SS to 3rd?
Roll
lets be honest Machado wanted to be SS because that is a prime position and would allow for biggest payday … now he got money he doesnt care if he is utility guy off the bench. With his “hussle” i wouldnt be surprised if he didnt prefer that spot.
Wolverines2
Tatis will be at SS when he comes up in mid April.
Chicks Dig the Longball
My guess is Tatis is SS and Machado is 3B, but I’m sure there will be a fun battle this spring to see which one is the better defender.
Pads Fans
Padres said all through their pursuit of Machado that it was to play 3B. I doubt they changed their mind.
Yossi Ronnen
Good for him and the Padres…Moustakas is probably upset he didn’t wait a few more days before signing, because his market value just went up.
leftcoaster
Can you say albatross?
southbeachbully
Heard there’s an opt out after the 5th season. What’s the over/under that he’s a Padre for the full term of the deal?
3eyedjohnny
Small market team “stepped up” which is a euphemism for overpaid.
Congrats, SD. Not sure if they learned anything from the Astros and Cubs on how to rebuild and win.
csspackler
Yes. They did. Build a No. 1 farm system … just like the Cubs and Astros.
Bunselpower
Just lose long enough…
Vizionaire
padres have great future as long as the management tries to win.
Wolverines2
Jason Heyward is on line 2.
PhilliePhan
Will he play SS or 3B?
dellapple
Why the Padres?
The Human Toilet
Why not? San Diego is a awesome place to live, plus Padres have a incredibly deep farm system that is getting very close to reaching to the major. If things god right. the Dodgers dominance of the NL West will come to a end in 2 years
JPADA
Pretty sure it’s because they offered the best deal.
theredsoxrule
300million reasons
davidcoonce74
170 comments in 17 minutes. I hope this doesn’t break MLBTR!
I’m happy. The guy played all 162 games last season (interesting for a guy who supposedly “doesn’t hustle” ) , the numbers are elite, he can play third or short with Tatis moving, he’s only 26, And seriously, he’s putting butts in seats and selling jerseys for a team that, while improving, hasn’t had a “face of the franchise” in quite a while.
brownbomber
It was never about the money though. He’s said all along how much he likes san diego fans.
DadsInDaniaBeach
LOL! It’s always about the money..
brownbomber
I was being sarcastic
dust44
Really thought he’d b a White Sox. Buts if Tatis Jr is really good when he comes up then they def have a good start to there rebuild now.
iloveatkinsandshapiro
Wow
bradthebluefish
Enjoy paying 50% of your taxes to the USA and California. However, the Padres are on the rise and San Diego is absolutely gorgeous.
Vizionaire
where did you get that figure? out of fish brain?
raef715
where is he paying the other 50% of his taxes to?
spudchukar
Were that true, with 5 teams in California, high speed rail should be expected all over Cali.
WarrenSpahn
Doh!…I’m glad you’re not doing my taxes…
Juggy
How many opt out clauses lol?
Vizionaire
1 after 5.
sergefunction
!!!Oy Gevalt!!!
joncoley
I still think the Yankees will sign him.
joepanikatthedisco
suck a gigantic egg
DarkSide830
underrated comment
billysbballz
Twitter rumors now has Yanks making late move on Harper?
I truly doubt that but I’m guessing he signs in next few days with Phillis 10/325?
Balk
Damn!! Good for the Padres! Nice to see them making a push! They’ve been in the dumps for a long time! Look out Dodgers! Hahahahaha
Balk
Can’t wait for this new rivalry! Lol
Bryzzo2016
Tatis Jr expected to be up by mid May, right? A slew of other prospects not far behind. The Padres will be very interesting!
Juggy
Now Harper to Philadelphia.
Melchez
Will he play short or third? Tatis is expected to be the shortstop in a couple years. Urias can be second baseman or short now.
highandtight
This is a good signing. Glad to see the Padres make the move. Yes, the price is high, but with their young core, they have the money available. This move doesn’t vault them over the Dodgers, but it should get them in trending in the right direction. They still need some starters, but with 10 years to work with, their window is open.
Smelly_Cobb
No body believed that was possible a month ago. I guess I’m heading to Arizona
Goose
The Padres have started to open up the pocket book these last few years. I can’t believe they don’t have a big deal coming. They have two catchers and six outfielders that any team would like.
How many times do you Yankee fans have to get beaten over the head with non signings for the top free agents before they realize George is dead and the kids are frugal.
Moneyballer
breaking news out of chicago…white sox sign bryce harper’s best friend, neighbor and butler to lifetime deals. Wait patiently for decision…..
radioball123
Great…now we have to see this guy step on Muncy’s foot every time he “runs” to first.
AlexVerdugoat
This is even worse for baseball than him not signing
DarkSide830
because a great young player getting 30 million a year is bad for the sport.
AlexVerdugoat
Think of this in the view of Urias and Tatis Jr.
Kwflanne
Don’t expect them to compete this year. The goal is, and probably should be, .500 baseball. The pitching staff is still a mess. That being said…. one-two more years, if 2-3 of Gore, Paddack, Morejon, Baez, Patino, Allen, Quantrill, weathers, Espinoza…. just need 2-3 of those to work out…. then this Padres team not looking too shabby. Also need Tatis jr to work out as expected…. but as long as he can get strikeouts under control (not necessarily an easy thing to do), but if he can do it, this team looks really good on paper.
AlexVerdugoat
Think of this in the view of Urias and Tatis Jr., Padres could flip Manny next offseason for a Mitch Keller/Whitley type prospect.
Grizalt
If a team wanted to pay Machado that kind of money they’d have signed him. They wouldn’t give up prospects (and certainly not blue chippers like Whitley or Keller) to do it in a year. Such a stupid suggestion.
66TheNumberOfTheBest
Does $330 million over 11 years get Harper? Or will Boras hold out to top the AAV, too?
Dodgerfan34
First thought….. He is in the same place as he was in Baltimore. They are rebuilding also, now you can say that the Padres prospects are better but how do you know? We will have to see how the Padre players work out.
So Manny has cash in fist and is in the middle of a rebuild…. only difference is that one place is on the East Coast and the other in the west? ummmm……ok……
joepanikatthedisco
The O’s were good in Manny’s first few years. Consistent 90-win squad albeit trending downward. These Padres are average as of today but trending upward with all those prospects
Dodgerfan34
The outcome is the same. He made his money but he is on a non contender. SO what was this all for money or about winning…..$$$$$$$
Dodgerfan34
Best comment ever!
niched
The Os weren’t flush with great prospects the way the Padres are now. Angelos could never build a minor league system the way SD has the was he avoided international signings. The Os never really had a chance the way Angelos botched that organization. Padres might botch it too but they already look a good deal better than the Os did 6-7 years ago
AUTiger7222
What are the Padres doing? First Hosmer last year and now Machado this year. They’ve got 3 players now making over $20M. Too bad the majority of the rest of their roster looks like garbage! Hello 3rd place at best.
Ryrodaddy
Pads just guaranteed no titles in the next 10 years…….
brewersjp
Nice work Johnny Hustle, just glad it’s not our team. What a waste… 30 Mil for a thug… hope he blows out both knees on his way to sign the contract.
DadsInDaniaBeach
Brew!That’s rough! What are you so angry about? Not your team.
joepanikatthedisco
Well your team already has 2 starting third basemen so…
leftcoaster
A bit harsh.
Priggs89
Wishing for a 26 year old baseball player to blow out his knees, and HE’S the piece of crap in this equation? Something doesn’t add up.
sdpadsfan11
Your tears taste yummy!!
Bryzzo2016
He’s a Brewer fan, cut him some slack. If you lived in Wisconsin you’d be bitter too, if your team had made the playoffs just 4 times in their ENTIRE pathetic existence… you’d be bitter too.
Cardinalsfan4ever
Brew fan said it right.
DarkSide830
daaaaang. Padres did a great job here. They managed to beat out the field and still get a good deal on him.
carlosrosette76
WOW WOW I AM IN SHOCK !!! WOW GOOD JOB AJ ROCKER GM San Diego PADRES YEA .. NOW WE NEED A STARTER .. ACE TYPE TO CONTEND. IN THE NL WEST.. YEA!!! 🙂
Syndergaarden Cop
you need a lot more than that to contend
bobtillman
I suppose now Bryce will want 10/300 and a MAGA hat……
$crewBaLL
Fire sale in 2-3 years. congrats to machado on signing with a franchise that wont sniff October,
Padres2019ha
Sniff this
chesteraarthur
So…still not October? You can’t even troll well.
$crewBaLL
your salty cause its true
Grizalt
His what is salty cuz it’s true?
Syndergaarden Cop
About damn time !
Padres2019ha
Dam White Sox…you could have had Tatis Jr AND Machado..but no, The Padres do
Bryzzo2016
Truth
DarkSide830
yikes, that stings (and im not even a sox fan)
Moneyballer
Geez pour salt on the wound why don’t ya!
Grizalt
Yeah they could have had Machado… if they wanted to grossly overpay.
Padres2019ha
Padresforlife I presume? You and WCR have disappeared..hmm
kahnkobra
and the Padres still have no pitching
itslonelyatthetrop
Take the money and (don’t) run…
trianalife
Ha. Congrats to pads. But I would spend 300 mil on someone who doesn’t hustle or play like it. On top of that. He will probably be in trade rumors 2 years from now. You heard it here first. #mannytraded2021
Grizalt
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Begamin
Machado is a good get for the Padres, but will it be enough? Eh, I have my doubts.
baseballin
padres have a star player!! im excited for the locals here in SD. they will love him out here.
Clarkwburnett
Hurrah for the Padres,I think Harper will sign with the Phillies.
nailz#4life
Just Horrible !!! Good luck winning with no SP or closer. AJ making another stupid ungodly move. Apparently No one has yet learned from the Big Albert contract from hell. Are they going to put Manny at 3B, otherwise Tatis JR is screwed out of a job. No way they compete with LAD at this time. Im sure Harper gets 10Y $350m now with Philly or Wash.
Chicks Dig the Longball
1. Kirby Yates was pretty darn good last year. They actually have a really good bullpen. Sure, there are no big names, just big production.
2. They have a lot of pitching prospects. Like 9 guys with a 50 grade or higher. So if 3 pan out and they can go after a guy next year, they will be in good shape.
3. The Albert Pujols comp makes no sense. Machado is 6 years younger when he signed the contract.
4. I’m pretty sure they will put either Tatis or Machado at 3B. They will both be on the field.
5. They have 10 years of Machado and nearly 7 of them are in his prime years. They will have put together a good team around him in a year or 2.
Seriously stop having opinions if they are all this bad.
Vizionaire
pujols may not have brought post season success to the angels but fans love him. arte’s pocket loves him, too.
antsmith7
Machado/Tatis is going to be insane.
Bryzzo2016
Yep
cobbalicious
That resolved a lot quicker then I thought it would. Bryce is going to the Phillies now
terror661
Haven’t Phillies fans been saying this for 2 months? Lol. “He’s coming today…” – everyday.
terror661
No? Dislike for being right? lol. Typical
Sir Becks
What amount of that 300mil$ cake will eat California?
terror661
13% plus federal taxes. I good portion. But he will still have a ton of dough and live on the beach. A lot better than Chicago or Philly.
DarkSide830
okay, because im sure you speak for him on which city he prefers.
terror661
? What? Lol
Victoroy
He’s Dominican…If he wanted to be with his “peeps” he would have signed with the Yankees. Us Dominicans don’t usually like the West Coast.
niched
Property taxes in California are low – one reason why properties are so expensive here. He’ll find plenty of real estate in La Jolla and Del Mar he’ll like. Anyway tax obsession is a trailer trash hobby.
PieroBr
Padres management says no the deal is not done … still talking? Back to who’s on first, Harper or Machado. Padres could easily fit BOTH players and still have plenty of flexibility in their payroll.
sufferforsnakes
I’m not up on the Padres. Do they have decent starting pitching?
goldenmisfit
Machado can say whatever he wants the fact of the matter is he chose the largest contract over signing with a winning team for just a little less. Plus San Diego is a very laid-back area they will not get on him for the hustling issue.
mrpadre19
Which “winning team” are you talking about?
The White Sox?
Lol
The Padres will be in the playoffs before the Sox…..especially now.
stymeedone
Given his list of suitors, choosing to play for a team with a winning record was not one of his options.
jcanose
Honestly thought he would sign with White Sox. I was wrong.
MB923
But according to “small market” fans, I thought small market teams couldn’t afford these contracts? The 2 largest contracts (as of now) in baseball history were given out by the Marlins and Padres, 2 “small market” teams. I’m well aware Stanton is not in a small market anymore, but it was still originally done by the Marlins
Separate note – Now the Padres have screwed the White Sox twice. First for getting Tatis Jr. for James Shields, and now this.
Priggs89
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to prove… The Marlins COULDN’T afford that contract, which is why they had to trade him for pennies on the dollar. Time will tell how it works out for the Padres, but that’s a ton of money tied up between Machado, Hosmer, and Myers. If the prospects don’t pan out as expected, they’ll be handcuffed for a while.
MB923
“The Marlins COULDN’T afford that contract,”
That doesn’t argue against what I originally said which was that they signed him to it. It also takes Two to make a trade, so if the Yankees said No, with his NTC, he very well could have been a Marlin still.. I had forgotten to point out that his original contract was obviously signed under Loria, but that doesn’t exclude the fact that today And back then they still were a small market team.
Priggs89
Maybe I should’ve phrased it differently. Being able to sign a player to a contract like that doesn’t mean anything – every team is capable of doing it. That doesn’t mean they can afford it though. They still need to be able to put a team around that player. If the Yankees said no and the Marlins were stuck with that contract, they’d be fielding a AAA team around Stanton for the next ~10 years. If they could’ve afforded that contract, they wouldn’t have been so desperate to move him – aka being willing to eat money AND take back mediocre at best prospects.
Bryzzo2016
Ummmm, I’ll take their “prospects” over the parade of BUSTS that the Sox have trotted out there. Those that actually get paid for their opinions are right. Moncada is already drawing comps to Buxton as a BUST. Rodon, Fulmer, Giolito, Lopez, BUST, BUST, BUST, BUST and Kopech’s arm fell off… good news there is he won’t be labeled a BUST til 2020. Manny isn’t stupid, he sees what everyone (except Sux) sees, the Sox rebuild is a joke and the Padres rebuild looks legit.
Chicks Dig the Longball
Dude, a lot of these guys have had productive stretches. Giolito, Lopez, Moncada, Buxton, and Kopech are still incredibly young and could still be as advertised. Rodon has been pretty good at times. Have some freaking patience.
Priggs89
What part of that has anything to do with what I said? I know you live to troll, but at least pick a comment where I mention (or even hint at) the White Sox.
Oh yah, and Manny sees GREEN. Don’t be a fool.
Bryzzo2016
Nope, I prefer to stomp out trolls. Big difference. Too many Sox fans pouncing on ANYTHING Cubs related. There’s a tax for that. As far as money, Machado could have reached 350 mil w/ the Sox offer. I think he does want to win. The Yanks, Cubs, LAD or any other legit contenders weren’t going to drop 300 mil or anywhere near it. So it looks like he believes in the Padres rebuild more than the Sox rebuild.
The Ranger Fan
Hold it, Didn’t the Padres just sign Ian Kinsler a couple months back, and what about the rookie Tatis, who’s playing what position.
guille
Kinsler will be in the bench once Tatis is up.
Padres2019ha
It’s really not that hard…urias at 2b, Machado at shirt til Tatis is up, kinsler 3rd…
Then urias 2b, Tatis SS, Machado 3rd
Grizalt
Kinsler is strictly a 2B
Chicks Dig the Longball
He better learn fast because he just became their worst infielder.
Grizalt
Stop saying Manny will be traded!
No one is going to trade for a contract they had no interest in giving a guy in free agency when he was coming off his best season and cost no prospects!
STOP SAYING MANNY WILL BE TRADED!
Ryrodaddy
they will when its 50 cents on the dollar.
pr0ject2501
Manny will be traded
Rickeo02
Good for the Padres
realgone2
The rime of the ancient mariner.
The Ranger Fan
Glad he left the American League and better San Diego than Texas. Wow that’s a lot of money committed to one player for ever and ever and ever.
petersdylan36
Best thing about this is that it means that Pirela will most likely be DFA
Haha but seriously,
As a Padres fan, I’m so excited!
guille
Why the Pirela hate? Cheap utility guy, was great in 2017.
Grizalt
Should have been the first or second guy cut after the season was over.
Grizalt
Nope. Lamet to 60-day DL
TheIncident
I bet they place Lamet on 60 day DL instead. His days are numbered though.
Grizalt
If I had it my way they would DFA Pirela for the roster spot just to get it over with (actually if I had it my way he would have been one of the guys DFA’d when they needed roster spots for Rule 5 protections) but realistically, they aren’t going to DFA him when he has a minor league option remaining and they already have a guy in Lamet who can be placed on the 60-day DL.
Spencer Smith
stupid is as stupid does.
hiflew
Over/under on the time before he is a Yankee — 3 years What say you?
em650r
I agree when the Yankees need help San Diego will be picking up the phone
Grizalt
If the Yankees wanted to pay him this kinda money they’d have signed him in the first place.
joepanikatthedisco
You don’t think Andujar will be relevant in 3 years?
hiflew
I don’t think he will be a Yankee in 3 years. And yes I do seriously doubt his relevance in 3 years.
indiansfan44
Now they need to do something with the rotation. They have a lot of good pitching prospects but the jump to the majors is the hardest.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they go after Kuechel or did call about Kluber again but now that spring training has started they would really need to blow them away to convince them to make a deal. Probably need the jaws of life to pull Tito off him as he leaves the complex too. But this changed things. Kluber didn’t fit well in their window before but it moved up with Machado.
greenbaygiants
Just looked at Machado’s H/R splits. Less than an .800 career road OPS despite playing in the AL East most of his career? That’s a giant “we’ll see” for playing half his games at Petco. Playing 9 or 10 games at Coors Field will help a little, but…
raisethejollyroger
Not worth it!
fs54
Nice move by Padres! Hope it works out for both sides so teams aren’t as averse to signing talented players as they have been lately.
JPADA
Just because these guys aren’t singing in November team are averse to singing talented players? You do realize players are the ones who actually decide whether or not to sign the contract. All teams do is offer contracts. Players hold out for the best deal possible, anyone with half a brain would do the same. I know if I were in that position I wouldn’t be in any hurry to sign a contract until I knew it was the best possible offer I could get.
em650r
In about 3/4 years Machado will get traded
Chicks Dig the Longball
Why would a team be willing to take on that contact for a 3 years older player?
Grizalt
No he won’t dipstick
SanDiegoTom
F yea! Let’s go padres!
KingSall77
I still don’t think that the Padres are a playoff team. They still have terrible starting pitching.
dirkg
BRAVO Padres. Those not from SoCal dont know how much the Chargers leaving SD was a blow to the city. The Padres now own the SD sports scene and this is a great move for the fan base. Congrats Pads fans!
Yankeepatriot
Well then !!!!!
He won’t be there the whole 10 years though, I just can’t see that happening
Grizalt
Sure he will. No one is trading for that contract.
Yankeepatriot
I disagree. They won’t have to absorb the whole thing in a trade unless the team squiring him is more than willing to
Grizalt
If they were willing to absorb the whole thing they’d have signed him in the first place. You can’t even use the excuse that he cost a draft pick to sign or that he has value to rebuild like you can with Harper.
Yankeepatriot
In a couple of years some of the money owed to manny will be already off the books so they wouldn’t have to pay 300 million
Grizalt
They would have to pay the same AAV tho and some of his prime years will have already passed. No one is trading for Manny. People said the same crap about Hosmer last year and it was any more true then.
iRiE-G
Now lets go get harper!! LOL GO PADRES!!
Chicks Dig the Longball
Please explain why?
Bruin1012
I’m quite surprised that he didn’t go to the Yankees but this is a great signing for the Padres. They have so much quality young talent coming up and not really anyone who plays third base it just made sense for the Padres to go after him I’m mildly surprised that he is going to sign with the Pads though. Really thought he would take less to play for Yanks. Congrats Pads fans I’m looking forward to seeing all that young talent mature.
gorav114
The Pad fans are going to love the first time he turns a double into a single or jogs out a weak ground ball to third. He seemed like a good teammate as an Oriole and was fun to watch play but was frustrating sometimes when you could see the talent was better than the results. He has the talent to be a hall of famer.
LongTimeListener1stTimecaller
my condolences to San Diego
sdpadsfan11
Wow!!!
There’s a brown storm on the horizon headed to your town!!! Y’all better bring a lot of toilet paper because you are about to get 5 h 1 t on!!!
Papabueno
LMAO…so funny.
Fanof29teams
Niceeeeeeee well done San Diego.
montana blue
Padres are saying they do not have a deal…fake news?
EvilDeadpool
Who would of think the Padres would make the Playoffs 3+ yrs in a row. Wow
CHW1214
Looks like the white sox moving is inevitable at this point. And Jerry Reinsdorf has no one to blame but himself no matter how much he wants to blame the fans. Enjoy Machado Padres fans
SheaGoodbye
Looks like that even after all of this drama, Machado will still get the money he originally expected to. Guess we can dial back talk of the FA market being completely broken, which was nonsense to begin with.
Personally, I wouldn’t have made this move and Machado probably won’t be worth the value of his contract, but you know what? If the Padres have a good run for a couple of years, that’s worth something for a franchise that has lacked excitement for the better part of a decade. I hope it works out for them even though I don’t expect it to.
RedSox4Life4ever
lmao!!!
bobtillman
THANK GOD! Now we can worry about the really important stuff. Like who gets Swihart from the Red Sox.
Gwynning
Super stoked! Welcome to the Gaslamp District, Manny! Might play some SS until Tatis is “ready”. Now, about that rotation…
Bartman
They’ll be sorry in 3-4 years…and he won’t opt out. So they will be on the hook for $180M for nothing. Enough to kill a franchise for a decade.
its_happening
Best place to be when you need to boost your rep. San Diego is much quieter than LA and New York. Machado was never going to the Yankees for less years and less money, especially after the Yankees signed Lemahieu. Also a good place to be with a good farm system ready to roll beginning next year.
Steve45
How long until the Padres eat a big chunk of this ridiculous salary to foist him on another team? I say three years.
kodiak920
This was a good sign. He and Hosmer are young enough to be still producing when the wave of prospects get here and establishes themselves. The pitching, though, has big enough holes to drive a truck through. Really aren’t any difference makers in free agency to address that, this year. Even Keuchel is probably a low three or high four, at this point in his career.
BrewersMVP08
what’s slower? machado getting down the line at first base, or the padres making the playoffs in the next 10 years?
Bryzzo2016
Hahaha… the Brewers EVER winning a ring. That’s the slowest. Seriously, a Brewer fan trolling a SD fan…. a Sewer fan trolling ANYBODY?!?!? In the Brewers ENTIRE pathetic existence, they’ve made the post season a grand total of 4 times with ZERO rings… EVER! Think about that? (The Cubs in just the last 4 years have accomplished more than the Brewers have EVER, 4 playoffs, 3 straight NLCS and a ring… the Brewers can’t even say that for their entire history, hahaha) The Brewers wish they had the history of the Padres.
Begamin
(((((Padres dont have a ring)))))
Bryzzo2016
(((((Neither does the Brewers))))))
Begamin
so theyre even? i doubt anyone wishes for the padres history
Wolverines2
I’d say Mike Moustakas is slower.
DarkSide830
…then he fails his physical and the affair starts over again
metslvt17
Good, exciting signing for baseball. The Padres have built their farm system and expect to be competitive in 2-3 years. They won’t be paying their homegrown stars too much at that point so Manny’s contract shouldn’t be too much of an obstacle for a majority of the length. That LF fence in SD should benefit Manny too.
Chicks Dig the Longball
C Mejia
1B Hosmer
2B Urias
3B Machado
SS Tatis
LF Myers
CF Margot
RF Who ever pans out between Renfroe, Cordero, Reyes.
DH Naylor (eventually)
That’s a good young lineup that will compete for several years. Hopefully enough of their pitching prospects pan out.
They will be good enough for a wildcard spot by next year.
Grizalt
Don’t like the opt out. Eliminates a lot of the upside and none of the downside.
Moneyballer
Let’s be honest here. It’s really 5/150.
Grizalt
You don’t know that he’s going to opt out. If anything I’d bet strongly against it.
Smelly_Cobb
I’d give it a 20% chance he opts out, and even that is a high estimate IMO
Grizalt
As a general rule of thumb, if you think for even a second that the team would benefit from the player opting out, he’s not going to opt out. Cases like A.J. Burnett with the Phillies are few and far between.
mrpadre19
But the opt out gives him incentive to keep performing.
If he continues to play at an All Star level he “could” opt out for more.
Others will get even bigger deals in the next 5 years.
Without the opt out he could just take it easy and take in $300 mil.
I like the opt out for the Padres to keep him invested in producing.
Grizalt
That’s one way to look at it. He’s still only going to opt out if the Padres want him to stay tho.
stymeedone
Really? You believe the opt out will keep him motivated? If he gets $33mm per instead of $30mm, will he be able to add the HBO package to his Prime account? Once you can afford anything you want, how is more a motivator?
Padres2019ha
I think the deal will be front loaded. $35 a year for first 5 years-5/175. Last 5/125. He’d have a better chance at opting out.
bucketheadsdad
10 years, 300 million. After paying the taxes in the state of California, Manny Machado joins the end of a long line. Qualifying for public assistance.
NeedsMoreTime
Smh… Learn how they’re taxed before that tired line is spewed.
bucketheadsdad
I know how they’re taxed.
Damn, no one appreciates snark anymore.
That is a shame.
minoso9
It’s all about the money for Machado. He sniffed around for the top dollar and finally found that it lead to San Diego. I hope he does well and this will help even out the balance of power in the N.L. West. Go Padres, Rockies, Dbacks.
mrpadre19
It’s “all about the money” for every MLB player.
That’s why it was so rare that a guy like Tony Gwynn took less to stay in S.D.
JayRyder
Harper GIANTS. !!!!!
terror661
Naw.
Judge Judy
Harper to NY is all but guaranteed now.
Yankeepatriot
im Not expecting the yanks to get Harper so that means neither of the big two will land in ny. Disappointing to many yes but they are already in much better shape than the teams acquiring them both anyway
Chicks Dig the Longball
I’m sure more people are happier than sad that neither will wind up in NY. It’s like New Yorkers think the rest of the country cares about them as much as they do.
Wolverines2
I can’t read these comments anymore. You haters are bringing me down. Ecstatic Padre fan. Just signed an absolute stud 26 year old who is a perfect fit position-wise on a team that has the top minor league system in the game. Ownership has shown they will spend. Plenty of prospects to deal and/or develop. I’ve enjoyed watching Machado play for years and anyone who questions his desire to win based on a comment is not seeing the whole picture. The contract is huge – but no larger than what was being predicted when the season ended. You guys can keep your negativity, and we will enjoy watching Machado and this team play in this beautiful city.
BrewersMVP08
need a tissue?
Begamin
lol he can wipe his own tears away, thank you!
Wolverines2
Nah man, I’m good. Say hi to Wisconsin for me.
BrewCrew1302
umm okay? Wisconsin says hi back 🙂
GoCubsGo
Enjoy your new toy! This signing is good for baseball. Should we keep seeing the big FAs sign with the Yankees/Dodgers/Cubs/Red Sox/Angels/Phillies/Nats year after year after year? Nice to see a smaller market team go for it!
Bryzzo2016
This
VonPurpleHayes
I don’t think that grouping is exactly fair. How often do the Phillies and Nats sign big free agents? I mean it happens certainly, but probably to the extent that it does in small markets.
That being said I agree with your main point.
Rickey O'Sunnyvale
As a Dodger fan, I’m looking forward to a more intense rivalry as the Pads blossom into a contender. Good day for the NL West. Come on Andrew: Bryce would look awful nice in the LA outfield.
Basebal101
As a Dodger’s fan congrats on your teams signing. Ignore the boneheads on here. Hope this brings SD back into contention. Baseball needs it.
Francys01
That is too much money for a player. The only player that I would give a contract like that would be to Mike Trout. Wow, the Padres could had offer at least 280.
Hibbie
Dirty player
Bryzzo2016
Ok, who’s gonna admit they were wrong? I predicted Manny to the Yanks and Bryce to the LAD when the winter began. So, I’m 0-1 so far
Wolverines2
If I’m being honest, I was still predicting those exact signings about a week ago until the reporting about Harper to Philadelphia. Unreal.
bbatardo
I really don’t understand the hate… Padres get a bad rep for being cheap and now that they are actually spending and trying to win people complain about the signings lol. 30 mill annually is a lot, but he Padres don’t have much on the books and the #1 farm system. It’s an exciting time as a Padre fan!
Bryzzo2016
The hate is jealousy, nothing more. The Padres have the best farm in the game and they just signed a superstar at age 26 to speed up the process. Don’t listen to the bitter White Sux fans, Yankees… Phillies fans. I’m not a SD fan and I’m even excited to see them. Especially when Tatis Jr. gets called up.
Begamin
I dont think people are jealous of the Padres tbqh
Wolverines2
You forgot about the salty and dreaded Brewers fans who apparently are angry at SD as well.
Bryzzo2016
It’s Milwaukee…. they are angry at life in general.
Papabueno
Wow. I’m surprised any player would sign with the Padres. The weather in SD sucks and the women are ugly!!
frankf
He will proudly join other Padres greats, such as Tony Gwynn and…um…did I mention Tony Gwynn?
wyatterp
Trevor Hoffman?
maxbaseball09
Now grab Keuchel, and give Buchholz a little deal (7-2, 2.01 last year)… and I’m throwing a party!!!!
Z-A 2
Waiting to see how front-loaded it is. Good for the Padres, and Manny can go back to baseball obscurity and out of the lime-light.
Grizalt
Manny gets a bit of a (possibly deserved) reputation for dirty play. But it will be nice to see a player with some actual cojones on this team for once. Had Manny been a Padre in 2017, he would not have let Anthony Rizzo get away with that dirty slide into Austin Hedges, for example.
And despite his reputation, Manny appears to have been very well liked by his actual teammates in both BAL and LA.
MetsFanaticDanny
About time!!!
Papabueno
OK. Serious question. For a team that spends $300M on a FA, what does it take to call it a success (from a baseball prospective)? Does the team have to win a World Series? If the Padres win a couple of division titles and win one playoff series in the next ten years, would it be worth it?
Same for the Phillies if Harper signs with them for more?
Z-A 2
Padres – relevancy = success, and more ticket sales.
Phillies – WS or bust.
Begamin
“If you aint 1st youre last”
But it depends what baseball perspective you are referring to. That of the FO care about profit AND on-field success (usually because on field success increases profit/value of brand). The baseball team itself cares about winning the WS. The fans can care simply about an entertaining product win or lose or they can have the Ricky Bobby-esque attitude that if you aint first you last.
What is success is subjective
Kk3445
If they could get some starting pitching, they’d be in good shape.
Grizalt
Look at their farm
Yankeepatriot
The prospects are good but they aren’t guaranteed. A guy like Dallas would help. The pads had one of the worst rotations in mlb last season and their guys in the farm like gore aren’t ready right now
Grizalt
If the Padres can’t build a rotation with the quality and quantity of pitching prospects they have, no one can.
Yankeepatriot
Thus is the luck of the draw with prospects my friend
socraticgadfly
And Manny’s D will help young pitchers.
boltz82
So, Padres fans, do they Padres try to sign Harper still or invest funds on Kuechel/Gonzalez?
murphydog
Philadelphia- yuk. Chicago-yuk. San Diego-great place to live. But….California taxes will take its toll in a huge way. Those taxes will take that contract down below 250 ml.
The Human Toilet
I think he will survive
fermier
If the Democrats get their way, 70% of that money will go o the government!
passed_balls
Won’t someone think of the poor multimillionaires playing a game????
GB85
And if the Republicans do, anyone not white will be deported.
Big Hurt
As a White Sox fan I wanted him, but 30M per for 10 years… meh. I would have rather had Harper, but that seems to have sailed too… Let’s go Marwin!!! 😉
carlos15
Pay those extra CA taxes.
Rightout
well I guess this makes the Padres about 5 games better then last year….but Padres with all there prospects coming up ….will be very good for a long time……Manny will be the cornerstone….Still need pitching moving forward….I assume Philly now must sign Harper between 32-34 million per year 10 years….lots of cash for two selfish players…..
joew
> “outstanding glovework”
At third base. Not so much short stop.
but i dont think any would complain tooo much if they put manny at short if they already had a decent third basemen 🙂
stlsoxfan
Beat out by the Padres….a new low for Sox fans. I have always tended to agree with ownership on player salary expectations but Sox Management failed here. With past and current payroll the money would seem to be there,….my interest is fading
norcalblue
Guys who self disclose playing hard is for other players usually don’t age well. Particularly after getting the big payday!
bigdaddyhacks
Sucks to suck SD.
wrigleyhawkeye
What are the terms of the opt out? Player? Team? Mutual? Buyouts?
Grizalt
Team opt outs in the middle of large long-term contracts will never happen. Never. Ever. Ever.
socraticgadfly
Kikuchi contract has a quasi opt-out for the Mariners, if you will, or a non-opt-in. mlbtraderumors.com/2019/01/mariners-sign-yusei-kik…
Grizalt
Well… swellopts do happen nowadays. But no agent is going to let their player sight a contract that has a straight-up team opt out in the middle of the contract.
SupremeZeus
Rick Hahn to the DL, shoulder injury. Injured patting himself on the back for participating.
Zachg547
I guess it’ll be another disappointing offseason for the White Sox. Lol
Bryzzo2016
Oh they’re fine. They’re still living off the high of the last big ticket free agent they signed in his prime… Albert(or Joey) Belle. It’s only been 25 years or so.
Yankeepatriot
Trade protection still needs to be worked out. I bet it’s simmilar to Stanton’s and if so then the pads will have limited trade partners To flip him too if they want out of his contract
jakethesnizake
Finally we can stop talking about this guy. Will be nice to not have to read incessant comments from the spoiled, crybaby version of Yankees fans who don’t get their baba and their pacifier too.
Good luck in SD, Manny. Glad you’re out of the AL East, out of the AL, and not on the Yankees.
Anyone who doesn’t think Harper will get more than $300m is a buffoon. He’ll probably now get closer to $350m.
MB923
Do you have any idea how much more he was linked with the White Sox than the Yankees??
sdpadsfan11
Warning!!! Warning!!! Warning!!! Warning!!!
The national weather service has issued an emergency warning that brown storm is heading to your city!!! Strap on the floaties and run for your life!!!!!
Bryzzo2016
Hmmmm, Brown storm sounds gross.
Grizalt
Why does he need a no-trade clause? The contract in and of itself already functions as a no-trade clause in that no one is going to want to trade for him with the money he’s making. Plus it was my impression that money was the sole reason he was signing with the Padres (let’s face it they’re not a prime free agent destination) so why would he care if he gets traded. He gets paid regardless.
Yankeepatriot
The no trade clause is to protect him from possibly being traded to a team he doesn’t want to go to, that’s why he needs it (and others in the past). Stanton’s helped him avoid st luis and San Fran last off season for starters
Grizalt
I mean he’s already signing with a team that has made the playoffs 5 times in 50 years and has no championships.
Yankeepatriot
Take the money now and if he isn’t happy there and the pads are still struggling he will be flipped to a contender later down the line. Gets the best of both worlds
Grizalt
No he won’t. A contender has to actually agree to trade for him. If they wanted to do that they’d have offered him this contract in the first place.
SupremeZeus
So they can’t trade him to the White Sox. He wants White Sox protection. Lol.
Chicks Dig the Longball
If Stanton could be traded, Machado could be traded. A better player on a cheaper deal.
Grizalt
Marlins are paying some money in the deal and in hindsight the Yankees probably don’t trade for him at all.
elgmac
Marlins will only pay $30 mil if he doesn’t opt out
Grizalt
He’s not going to opt out
Willy Mays
Having a no trade clause might in the future give him future bargaining power if the Padres want to trade him and he’s put up great numbers. He could determine where he wants to go and maybe get more money out of the team he’s going to. Remember Stanton with a huge contract was able to force a trade to the Yankees when he was destined for SF. Truth is though as you said the size of that contract will mean no trades will happen unless they eat some of the contract
Grizalt
The only way he can get more money for accepting a trade is if his contract has a club option that he can ask to be guaranteed in exchange for him accepting a trade.
Willy Mays
I believe since he has an optout after 5 years he can renegotiate the contract to get rid of the opt out if hes traded to a new team and make it a more lucrative deal with no opt out.I could be wrong but I believe he could do that
Grizalt
He already has an opt out. Getting rid of the opt out is bad for the player. Why would he give up that leverage AND approve a trade? He gains nothing by doing that.
SFGiantsGallore
Dude, the padres are going to be sitting pretty in the next couple years. Prospects and big time producers might give them a decent shot at taking the NL West crown. Hardcore giants fan here, but ya gotta give credit when it’s due.
68tigers84
This makes the Reds contract with the then 26yo Suarez look amazing. 7 years 66 million contract with Eugenia Suarez, who had a super 2018 season.
socraticgadfly
So, Heyman’s Fan Rag, Fan Cred or whatever …. folded, if it was just him? Booted him if it wasn’t just him? And now, Commish Corleone is stuck with him.
citizen
So the much touted mlbtr 2018-2019 free agaent mega class drags on. Just think, who is going to give a large contract to bautista or Jose Reyes or Hanley Ramirez????
Come on White Sox!
Grizalt
And lastly, last offseason people were saying the Padres should trade for Machado in order to “gain the inside track to signing him.” Well guess what? They didn’t trade for him and were able to sign him anyway! And thanks to the Dodgers he didn’t even cost a draft pick to sign.
Yankeepatriot
Imagine how trouts market is going to drag (if he hits the market) if this off season is any indication. my goodness lol
MarlinsFanBase
The dynamic between the two South Florida guys, Hosmer and Machado, one who plays hard and the other who takes plays off, will be interesting.
Pads Fans
Just curious, but other than an ill-timed and out of context comment in the playoffs, do you have any evidence that Machado takes plays off?
He was one of the better players in baseball last season, he was among the faster players to 1B, and he was near the top in extra bases taken. Not sure exactly what he supposedly did to indicate to you that he takes plays off.
BrewCrew1302
“Im not johnny hustle”
*walking to first in the world series hitting a ball off the wall*
Cant hustle in the World Series and the NLCS? make dumb comments about your hustling in the playoffs DURING his walk year?
yeah, hes going to be playing his heart for the Padres!!!
Begamin
“other than the evidence of claim A, do you have evidence for claim A?”
MarlinsFanBase
I guess you didn’t watch him in Baltimore much. If you did, you wouldn’t be asking. If anything, you’d be embarrassed to ask that question. No worries, if the Padres are struggling, you’re going to get a good view of him taking plays off…especially now that he got paid.
I’m in South Florida. We’re proud of him. But, if there is a kid to be concerned about slacking off after getting a big contract, it’s Manny.
Now don’t take my statements wrong. The kid is as gifted as they come and is a once in a generation talent, and I saw that firsthand when he was a kid playing down here, but you don’t know what you’re going to get – a motivated Manny on every play; a Manny that slacks off when he’s unmotivated during a loss season for his team; or a guy that ends all effort now that he’s gotten paid.
Remember that I spoke these words.
stymeedone
@marlinsfanbase
First, congratulations for being selected to represent an entire fan base. Second, there is no need to remember what you said, as you stated every possible outcome and took no actual position as to which you think will happen.
csspackler
Look, there’s no chance they went ahead with this without doing due diligence … they’ve spoken with teammates, coaches, managers, etc., who undoubtedly vouched for him. Forget fan comments about player character. Typecasting is not unusual, especially to those who have never even sniffed a major league clubhouse.
Fact is, the guy has played 637 out of 648 games over the past four years. Averaged .5.8 WAR during that time. Two Gold Gloves at third. He’s the real deal.
MarlinsFanBase
Yeah, because teams never sign guys to bad contracts while doing their due diligence (something they do for every player for a big contract like this). Yep, doing due diligence has guaranteed that teams never sign players to bad contracts.
csspackler
Point missed.
Kwflanne
Just curious, how was his comment “out of context”??
c ya
Congratulations to the Padres, their fans and Manny.
I hope everyone enjoys the additions made to their teams, it will be one heck of a year in baseball.
jacobteam
500+ comments and NO ONE mentions Ty France?!? 😉
Was looking forward to the local boy, coached by Tony Gwynn at SD State, to get a shot at playing time. Pads should trade him to the White Sox…or Phillies…
Pads Fans
Seriously? You were looking forward to a non-prospect that has been decidedly meh in the minors taking over at 3B for the Padres?
Pads Fans
I guess the guy on my flight here yesterday was not talking out his behind.
Rightout
Playball….one overpriced player signed one more too go….Padres should sign Bryce 34 for 10 and then throw 20 million for 4 at Dallas Kuechel and win an extra 12 games this year ….just kidding around…..good luck Padre fans….
Moneyballer
Solid joke.
Yankeepatriot
Apparently wfan is reporting that hal didn’t even make manny a formal offer
keepinthafaithsd1
If they dfa pirela for Machado he will be my new favorite player for life…besides gywnn cami and hoffy
metnoxious
Maximum shelf life: 3 years.
csspackler
Apparently Fowler, Seidler and Preller met with Lozano last night in Peoria to finalize the deal.
RIPprosports
Looks like NL West will have to stock up on extra catcher helmet protection and reverse shin guards for the first basemen!
csspackler
By the way, I don’t believe in leveling ill-feelings toward the White Sox or anyone else. Pretty much wasted energy.
thomasg2018
Both non factors.
Cam
Where are all the people who swore black and blue he wouldn’t even get $200mil? They were incredibly vocal over the last few months, but have gone quiet fast.
AngelDiceClay
Haha The stupid Yankee fans thought Manny was there’s haha. As Ahnold Swarzenegger would say” Yankee fans, smoke a doobie and shut up”
MB923
As if the White Sox fans didn’t do the same??
Moneyballer
What if San Diego was like ALL-IN – Padres sign Bryce Harper 10/330 – Al Gore’s internet would break!
woodguy
Lmao
sdfriarfan
The Padres and Fowler have made their statement. These are not the Padres of old. They are beginning to build a competitive team with the hopes of making to the World Series. Machado, regardless of what the haters on this site say, is a good start. He and Tatis jr. are from the same country. It’s likely management has discussed him being a mentor (for all things positive) for Tatis. If Myers would get his cabeza out of his arse, he could be an integral part of a successful team in the upcoming years. I don’t care what the naysayers think, I’m very excited and welcome Manny to our team.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
I had expected Padres to sign Moose for two years and $30 million ($15 million per year) as the stop gap until Padres young pitchers hit the majors. Manny and the Padres will be lucky to win 75 games in the next two years without some starting pitching. Personally, I think that no team should have offered Manny more than five years and $175 million ($35 million per year). Ten year contracts are mistakes unless you are going to completely ignore the luxury tax and pay ten years to get 6-7 good years.. But if there was a team to do it, it is a team like the Padres that needs a star to help attract more free agents down the road.
Koamalu
There was a great article on that subject in The Athletic. They found that half of the deals have worked out well for the teams. All of those deals were for guys 4-5 years older than Machado. Players prime is 26-30 years old. Machado is just entering that range this season.
SoCalBrave
Harper has to be thinking 350 now
Scorpion226
Where are all the players complaining of COLLUSION??? Bro just set a record contract!
Koamalu
Largest free agent contract in the history of North American sports. By the Padres. Things have sure changed in baseball. Be honest, how many of you thought there was no way the Padres would sign either Machado or Harper?
STLBaseballFanSince2020
I am not surprised one bit. He was either going to the Padres or Yankees.
IMO Philly and CWS are the only two teams still hunting Harper and he’s not keen on either one. If Washington Is smart they probably reduced their offer to 10/$275,000,000 just incase he comes running home when the sun starts setting on the offseason. (NOW)
I’d think the Yankees, Dodgers, and ??? would have a lowball offer in place in the event Harper gets nervous and wants to go to top off a large market super team.
If I’m the Cardinals I’m throwing up a 1 year, $35-40 million offer. Harper would mesh well with Carpenter and Goldschmidt in the lineup. His questionable defense would see some relief with Bader in CF and Wong at 2B. Then we can bench Fowler and win 120 games!
sdfriarfan
Here is another positive (potentially) for the Padres. Myers no longer feels like he has to be the leader of the team ( never was) or lead the team (never did) and can now relax and focus on producing like he could/should. Imagine if he, Hosmer, and Manny all produced like they could? This could be very interesting.
Grizalt
Well, if my aunt had balls and all that.
niched
Won’t be surprised if the Padres will be trying to unload this contract on the Yankees or Mets in 3 or 4 years.
Grizalt
Won’t be able to. If those teams wanted to pay Manny all that money they had the option to do so this offseason and they both said “No thanks.” The Padres did not buy low on Manny.
niched
Well, if Manny is a stud and the Padres remain mediocre, then they may be able to entice someone if the Padres keep a portion of the salary. I think Manny is a great player but nowhere near the best player in baseball — which is what this kind of money says he is. That said, if Manny only gets better and the Padres don’t — could be another Cano / Stanton type trade situation.
STLBaseballFanSince2020
3B Manny and SS Manny are like 2+ WAR apart. I don’t think the Padres will regret signing Manny as long as he’s the full time 3B.
Kwflanne
That logic doesn’t make much sense. That’s like saying any free agent ever will never get traded mid-contract because other teams didn’t originally offer that contract? Huh?? I’m a Padres fan and hope machado is here for the duration of his deal… but if he is traded at some point, another team taking him on or not taking him on will not be because they didn’t want to give him this contract originally. Their financial situation/team needs could be completely different at the time of a future trade. That just simply isn’t a factor
Grizalt
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smkelly1970
The 2 big winners from this (besides Harper, when he inks a deal) will be Mike Trout and Mookie Betts. They both could well command $400-500 million by the time their free agencies hit.
niched
Maybe $400 but not $500. Manny and Bryce are probably more likely to disappoint relative to their contracts than not. If they do it will only make teams question huge long-term contracts even more. Is Manny even one of the 10 best players in the game? I’m not so sure he is. He might not even be one of the 3 best third basemen (offensively I mean) in the game. In this sense he reminds me of Mark Teixeira, who seemed way overpaid only two or three years into his deal with the Yankees.
Scrap1ron
Glad that drama is over. Now sign Harper and the rest, let’s get this party started.
modifish
Machado fits in nicely with SD. Laid back city, not gonna get railed by the media and fans for his nonchalant ways. I am a bit surprised the Phils chose to pursue Harper more than Machado over the last month as they seemed to prefer him back a couple months ago. Harper does fit the Philly mold better, plays hard and intense. Might be a reason in addition to Harper being a lefty bat in the outfield, a bigger weakness than 3rd for the Phils. Now if Harper see’s Philly being a better fit is a big question….I still have a nagging doubt that Harper ends up back in Washington…if so that would be classic when the Nats come to town….
Grizalt
It’ll be interesting to see how he is received when the Padres play on the road at Dodger Stadium. If it weren’t for Manny the Dodgers don’t make it to the World Series in the first place but he tanked in the actual World Series and then jumped ship to a division rival after spending just 40% of a season with LA and costing them a not-insignificant package of prospects.
RIPprosports
If it weren’t for Manny, Dodgers wouldn’t have made the WS? Boy, it didn’t take you long to start swinging on his jock!
Grizalt
They certainly wouldn’t have forced a game 163 against the Rockies. They would have had to win the Wild Card game. Who knows what would have happened there?
RIPprosports
OK know it all
Assuming you called Manny coming to SD too?
Grizalt
Nope. Had him going to the Phillies or Yankees.
Are you trying to say that Manny didn’t make a difference in at least one game for the Dodgers after they acquired him? Cuz if not, they would have not forced a game 163.
RIPprosports
Nope
Just saying Manny wasn’t the reason we went to the WS
I’m not going to assume different scenarios for a season that already is over. You can’t either
mdbaseball05
To say he didn’t help is just silly. Manny hit .273 with 13 HRs and was good for 2.8 WAR for the Dodgers after they acquired him.
The Dodgers won the NL West by 1 game over the Rockies. Without the help of Manny, the Rockies possibly win the West and play the Braves, also likely steam rolling them, while the Dodgers instead play a series in which the Brewers have the home field advantage instead of opening against Atlanta.
Obviously, you never know what happens, but the road to the World Series is MUCH harder if you don’t win the NL West and open the playoffs against the Braves.
Doesn’t really matter either way. The World Series was always just going to be “who gets to lose to the Red Sox”
RIPprosports
It’ll take about half the season to regret having him on the team. That’s all it took for the Dodgers.
Mystery Team
In a shocking turn of events the Padres have decided to forego the next year and a half and have already traded Manny Machado and $40 million to the Mets for prospects.
Yep it is
Typical Williams whining he lost out. Get over it. San Diego or the team in Chicago nobody cares about? Tough call there
goldenmisfit
Anyone who thought Manny Machado was going to get 500 million get drug tested LOL. I did not even think he would get 400 my prediction in November was 10 years 350 so I was not all that far off. As far as Harper is concerned I thought he could get close to 400 million but now looks like he will probably get a little bit more than Manny probably around 350. As a Yankees fan I am in a way happy nanny did not go there. He has proven the biggest contract trumped any chance of getting a ring. When you are a 96 lost team spending 300million on one player is not the smartest business strategy. They have no starting pitching they have no bullpen this team is still at the very least three or four years away. Do not be surprised if you hear on this app within three years San Diego padres shopping Manny Machado.
Grizalt
“… they have no bullpen…”
How do you figure?
Smelly_Cobb
Garbage analysis, Even worse grammar.
lowtalker1
Wrong. Their starters as a whole suck but their bullpen was their strength and it’s a really good one
davidcoonce74
Padres bullpen, by WAR and WPA, was the sixth-best bullpen of all time in 2018. Granted, the 2018 Yanks were the first-best of all time in 2018, but the notion that the Padres don’t have a good bullpen is absurd. It was the one area the team excelled at in 2018.
Padres2019ha
Such an uninformed and grammatically lazy statement.
csspackler
Uninformed and lazy statement, grammar notwithstanding. Get used to the off-the-cuff pugnacity. Those fomenting have vision that is limited to the tips of their noses.
Deleted Userr
Let’s not talk about “uninformed and grammatically lazy statements” my guy.
Kwflanne
Aside from the bullpen comment, I agree about the timeframe. The bullpen is actually above average and approaching very good, they lack a pure or star-caliber closer, however. But I agree that this team is still 3ish years away. Some people love the farm system so much, they think they will all be all-stars in their rookie years with no growing pains whatsoever. Not to mention most of their top-tier pitching talent is at least two years away. Yeah, the Padres story was “2018 we are jumpstarting our competing by signing Hosmer” and finished even worse. 2019 the rotation is still very questionable at best, and the lineup still isn’t anything to be super thrilled with. Say Tatis comes up late in the year, don’t expect him to set the world on fire right away… it takes time. I see 2022 as a best case scenario for the likes of Tatis Jr, Urias, Gore, Patino, Morejon, and a few others to be actually performing to their expectations and make the Padres a real contender. Some prospects on the Padres rankings, while I have hope for, I’m more cautious than some fellow Padres fans. Example: Chris Paddack. Absolutely DOMINATED last year, but people seem to forget he is still essentially a two pitch pitcher (fastball/changeup) who has only made 7 starts above A ball. So the numbers look great, but in terms of projecting his impact on the Padres…. I think it’ll be a bit down the road, and that’s only if he gets a more consistent third pitch, and if he handles AA/AAA as well as he handled A-ball
Caleb Clark
Machado going to the padres is a great move but sucks for teams like the white sox, phillies, and yankees
johnny koshi
COLLUSION! Those b-stard billionaire owners………….
Knowthemarket
Well..if there was going to be a team that would have to 10 years it would be the Padres. That’s not intended as an insult. The Marlins or Orioles probably couldn’t tempt him with anything. The Padres have a tantalizing farm but aren’t as close to contention as the Phillies so they would have to beat out whatever offer they offered. The White Sox are in a similar position as the Padres and so would have to outbid them as well.
I guess this is ACE saying “Your move Boras.”
GarryHarris
How much did Manny Machado’s behavior during the post season against Milwaukee and his Team Manny like insistence on moving to SS in Baltimore effect the interest? Although he’s rich beyond reason, last year, I predicted he would draw a great deal more interest this off season.
James1955
GarryHarris. Based on last offseason and this offseason, players are not getting a lot of interest.
GarryHarris
Perhaps MLB has realized that a salary of $30M per year is significantly higher than a team of managing directors of most major corporations and that paying an absurd salary to one or two players not only does not make the team better but is detrimental to the entire franchise.
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
Garry – You are thinking about this wrong from a GM perspective. They don’t look at the players as workers. It would be more in tune to a trade deal, or some kind of contract where a corporation hires a company to help make a product. This isn’t, oh, jerry over there is really good at the financial end of mergers, so let’s pay him twice our salary. It is more like a CEO that makes $30 million being responsible for a billion dollar acquisition. Machado is that billion dollar acquisition in this line of thinking. To them, he is a purchasable product that they hope gives an even bigger return on. We don’t have to like that line of thinking, but that is what it amounts to.
chisox93
Yeah. As a White Sox fan, I am not going to pretend I am happy about this. I really wanted to see him come to the Southside. And Harper is going to most likely go to Phillies so it looks like we will grab some aging former star who can’t find work.
VonPurpleHayes
I really hope you’re right about Harper going to Philly, but what if…he also goes to San Diego?
Philliesfan4life
They said Machado would of earned more in AAV with the white sox if he took their deal. 8 years 240-250 mill I believe it was plus incentives
Rex Block
300 / 10 = 30
240 / 8 = 30
They isn’t always a reliable source.
padam
You win the internet today.
nowheretogobutup
Eight years with the Sox with incentives to earn up to $340M, Sox thought Manny was a done deal
Gwynning's Anal Lover
I’m gonna sign for $301 million.
VonPurpleHayes
That feeling when you realize that Pads can still easily afford Harper as well…
Grizalt
I predict the Padres hope that Wil Myers rebounds in the first half then try to trade him at the deadline, both to free up some $ and space in the outfield. Gonna have to kick in some $ and/or prospects in the trade tho.
Kwflanne
If he rebounds to anywhere near his all-star form, why would they even consider trading him? They want to move him NOW, because he is underperforming and blocking young prospects playing time. If he starts performing, the prospects (Reyes, renfroe, Cordero) are not so highly regarded that they MUST make room for them. If he bounces back and outs up respectable numbers, he stays. It’s clear the Padres think they are close to competing (although I think they are further off than some believe). But if they believe they are close, and they have Myers performing well…. they don’t look to move him. Yeah his value is up, but they aren’t “rebuilding” at that point and looking to sell. That would be the last two years. When a team believes it’s close to competing, and it’s players are performing….. generally they like to hold on to those guys
Grizalt
They would look to move him because their other OF’s are better value and because he might regress or get hurt later on.
Kwflanne
Wow. They might look to trade their entire roster then if their concern is a player MIGHT regress or MIGHT get hurt later on… guess they will look to trade everybody with those kind of concerns
Grizalt
First rule of being a GM: Buy low, sell high
Kwflanne
…. but they didn’t buy low on Myers. They signed him to an extension, which is incredibly backloaded. Sooooo….??? And if your team is competing, like the Padres beilieve they will be, they don’t “sell high”… they need those players if they are competing. Seriously….. your argument here makes no sense at all.
Grizalt
No, they don’t need Myers spending half the year on the DL, putting up decent but not All Star stats when he is healthy and blocking the younger, cheaper OF’s from getting PT. You have said multiple times that the Padres are going to have to trade an outfielder at some point this year.
padam
To think they traded Turner for him…
Grizalt
I can’t say anything about that that hasn’t already been said 100 times. Probably best to just let it go.
padam
I guess Alonzo and Jay are now available for trade. What blows my mind is that a big city team like Chicago lost out to San Diego. Kudos to SD for getting it done. Going to be an interesting team to watch in the years to come.
Yankeepatriot
Alonzo and jay will probably be DFA’d or released lol
rerogers
Machado is still a chump regardless of his ability. And the Pads are still irrelevant. But big bucks for him.
sdfriarfan
What a clown statement. Machado is still a chump regardless of his ability which earned him 300 million? Go back to your basement dufus.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Machado’s public statements about not being the type who hustles did slightly hurt baseball. And Machado has had a couple instances of dirty plays. So if the poster is saying he is a great player but he does not like his personality then it is a fair comment. If he is saying that Machado is not talented, then he is in denial.
megaj
Even If I won the Powerball tomorrow, it wouldn’t be as much as they get to play ball 3 hours a day in the summer. When does it end? Are we going to make a billionaire out of a jock one day?
Pads Fans
Ballplayers today work out intensely all year and from February to October they have 10-12 hour days, every day.
ffrhb14Sox
You may not like it but ignorant statement. Games may be 3 hours, now think about other time. Game days players show up hours before games, they generally play 6 days a week and sometimes go 20+ days in a row. They log time in the gym. They travel away from home for half of their games and often travel on game days so that day is extremely long from getting to the park to getting in the hotel. They also have team meetings, media commitments and so much more. All of that is just to showit is alot more than 3 hours a day. Regardless of all of that, they have a rare skill and are compensated bc people pay money to see that skill. It is a very popular and profitable business.
megaj
Morons. Sure, let’s pay the jester as much as the king and encourage them by paying 500 bucks to take the family to see one game. Oh yeah, they work SO much harder than I do in construction. SMH.
SheaGoodbye
The sport generates a lot of revenue and someone has to get those dollars. Can’t blame the players for getting their share.
kster224488k
And the Padres will still suck …this clubhouse cancer will kill any chance they have anyway…being a Braves fan I could care less
san diego4life
Dam you still bitter the padres beat the Braves in 1998 ?
AlexVerdugoat
And the Jays probably in 1992
sdfriarfan
I’ve never read any Orioles or Dodger players say he is a club house cancer. Can you cite sources? If not, go suck a brave tomahawk.
jussayin619
Not sure where kster224488k gets his info… possibly something maybe his mother told him and he soaked it up… but Machado is actually regarded as a great teammate. There has never been any report about him to surface as him being disruptive in any club house… maybe do your own research before u speak again ya?
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Agreed, he is accused of playing dirty and not hustling, but he gets along fine with teammates.
Vizionaire
braves may be the cancer of mlb but most people don’t say it not to look so foolish as kster.
Grizalt
1. So you do care, at least a little?
2. According to who is he a clubhouse cancer?
Matthew De Lorge
Congrats to Machado for getting lost in the bermuda triangle of baseball teams called the San Diego Padres.
At least Padres fans can watch them lose games 7-5 instead of 7-1. Padres still lose 90 games with 450 mil on the corners of the infield.
sdfriarfan
So what? We support our team win or lose. Are you a fairweather fan? Sounds like it. If the Padres are not your team, why make such a stupid comment?
VonPurpleHayes
True fans know how to sit through losing seasons.
Padres fans deserve to be excited about Machado. And anyone pooping on their parade is just bitter that Machado didn’t pick their team.
Vizionaire
my son went to school in sd and still works there. the whole company went into party mode as soon as i texted him about the signing. even the owner who is from georgia was celebrating.
pr0ject2501
Attendance stats say otherwise. They point to pads fans being very unsupportive and extremely fair-weathered. See you at pet smart.
Pads Fans
Padres pretty much always are about league average in attendance and have 3-4 playoff teams that had less fan support. espn.com/mlb/attendance/_/year/2018 Lying is not good just because you hate the Padres.
Matthew De Lorge
So, I trashed on fans? No, I trashed on the team for consistently putting a bad product on the field. I actually feel bad for fans of teams with bad ownership. Team would have been better off investing the money on several players and spreading it out rather than empty the wallet on 2 guys, 1 in which already isn’t giving you a good return.
Risks should be taken by teams close to winning, not by teams that will lose 90 games regardless.
Really, stop being emotional because you know the team is awful regardless of this pickup. Stop acting like I insulted the fans when I am insulting the ownership….it’s well deserved!
nowheretogobutup
Matthew, I know who you are, one of the losers from the old board, you just changed your name, nice try.
Matthew De Lorge
Old board? Yeah, loser fans are fans who cheer on perennial losers bud.
AlexVerdugoat
As a Jays/Dodgers fan, would have thought the same if he somehow ended up with the Jays. He would have rotted away in the environment.
jussayin619
This is based off the assumption that the padres will suck? Someone explain to me how having manny Tatis urias Hosmer and hedges/Mejia on the infield at the same time won’t be considered a great defense on the field? This honestly could go down as one of the best infields of all time if everyone pans out
chesteraarthur
Hosmer isn’t good?
Vizionaire
surrounded by great teammates he should play much better.
nowheretogobutup
Hosmer is a vacuum at 1B our IF will be one of the best in baseball
Matthew De Lorge
So Tatis is good already? NONE of your prospects have shown anything, so pump the breaks. Hosmer has already put up a bad first season, that will likely continue.
I am assuming what has been, and will likely continue, them being a bad team. You are assuming that they are going to be good though? Based on?
Safely assuming a bad team that really added 1 good player all offseason is going to still be bad is not a stretch.
They have A LOT of work to do if they are going to be a good team.
nowheretogobutup
Padres are two players away from the playoffs, both SP’s
Matthew De Lorge
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah!!!!
TWO PLAYERS HE SAID!!!
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!
jbigz12
ROFLCOPTER LMAO. The Padres are moving in the right direction. They’ve got a collection of minor league talent that is second to none. It’s not like Machado just re-upped with the orioles who are just starting a rebuild. The Padres are nearing the next stage and the NL west is extremely vulnerable outside of LA starting this year. Rox are still here for now but even they look to take a step back in 2020 if they lose Arenado. Don’t need to be so pompous there de lorge.
Matthew De Lorge
No, you’re right, he didn’t sign with the Orioles. The Orioles have been relevant in more recent memory than the Padres have. Enjoy 70 wins with Manny….. and think “it’s more than 63”. That’s a lot to hope for.
The problem with your thinking is that the remainder of the teams in the division try to win more than the Padres. The Dodgers can buy themselves to 90 wins and the Rockies play in a place where average hitters get a bump. You’re putting an awful lot of stock into the farm.
On average how many prospects pan out?
jbigz12
On average how many teams have 10 of the top 100 In the game and probably 15-16 of the top 200. That system is stacked like no other. And your comment on Rockies is asinine because the other team that goes to Colorado gets to hit in the same place. Padres are a team moving the right way.
Matthew De Lorge
Until the prospects actually do something it’s just a shot in the dark. Hosmer was a bad signing and is already garbage.
Heading in the right direction would be signing Harper alongside Machado. They do that and commit to a high payroll when/if the propects come up and they’ll sell me.
If they don’t plan on having a high payroll, blowing the majority of their payroll on three players, two in which aren’t performing to those contracts, will be wasteful and foolish.
davidcoonce74
You watch baseball, right? Maybe take a look at the Atlanta Braves, 2018. None of those prospects was nearly the caliber of the Padres prospects. They won the division.
Grizalt
Acuña?
Matthew De Lorge
Are you serious? Acuna? Also, who cares where they are ranked. Who had a better year last year, Andujar or Torres? Torres was ranked 3 on many lists in all of baseball, where was Andujar ranked?
Who cares how many and where your prospects are ranked, til they produce they are just untapped potential that could prove out to be AAAA players.
You obviously do not watch baseball….well good baseball anyhow hahahahah
The Padres should have waited to see if their prospects would ACTUALLY make them a good team before blowing all this money. The Braves and Yankees developed and saw what they had before spending to finish out their team. The Braves actually should have spent more on pitching, but that’s another topic.
The Padres dumped cash on a VERY overrated Hosmer and opened the wallet for Myers, who is awful and they can’t even find a permanent position for him.
So add Manny, cuz the 60-70 win category means GO FOR IT!
Again, you had better pray the Padres commit to a large payroll or else you won’t go far with ONE great player and two over paid bums in Hosmer and Myers.
davidcoonce74
Well, this decision was made with an eye to the future, when their prospects are good major leaguers, if they are going to be. Their window, they believe, is around 2020. Machado wouldn’t be a free agent in 2020. So they had to pull the trigger now. There’s not really any potential superstars that are projected to be free agents in 2020, except Mike Trout, who is definitely not going to SD.
Will Myers isn’t awful by the way. He’s just injured a little too often, but last year he put up a 2.5 WAR season in half a year. Hosmer wasn’t good at all last year, but who knows if he figures out how to improve his launch angle, something the Padres have supposedly been working with him on.
Of course it’s a gamble, hoping that the majority of a team’s prospects pan out, but the Padres have ten of the top-100 prospects in the game currently, with a guy who is ranked no. 1 overall on some lists. The Acuna example is simply that he was never ranked that high on any top prospect lists. And he obviously turned out great, as did Albies and some of the Barves pitching prospects. That’s a model to look at.
Matthew De Lorge
There are a BUNCH of good free agents next year. They could have brought up some of their top guys and seen SOMETHING out of them. Arenado, Betts, Benintiendi, JBJ, JD Martinez, Sale, are all guys entering FA in the coming few years.
Machado, yes is 26, but if they really don’t hit on these prospects and Hosmer continues to suck, and Myers cannot stay on the field, where will they be? Also, if they hit on prospects they will NEED to sign some pitching, and even at that, Machado can opt out after the 2023 season. If they started bringing guys up this year that would still have many of them in their arbitration years. Machado could be opting out JUST as they actually contend if a lot goes right.
The gamble is HIGH at this point. I would have taken a small glimpse with calling a few of these guys up this year to see if the team can actually start to contend. All they did was make their draft pick worse if they win another 6 or 7 games this year if all they have is Machado. Imagine, another VERY high pick and prospect with no Machado, then sign Arenado or Betts next year.
Again, if they sign Harper I will change my opinion entirely. They had better start pushing prospects up though and signing a big pitcher next offseason if they end up pulling both off.
davidcoonce74
Let’s take all the names you mentiond. Arenado: Machado is better and younger and doesn’t have the home/road Coors effect. Mookie Betts isn’t leaving Boston, and isn’t even a free agent next off season, or the one after; he’s not a free agent until after 2020 season. That’s two years away. Benintendi is nowhere near as good as Machado, is a corner outfielder, and isn’t a free agent until after the 2023 season, five years from now. JD Martinez, seriously? He’s in his mid-30s and is a DH only. JBJ is not a FA until after the 2021 season, and is a defense-first center-fielder who is just an average hitter. Nowhere near as good as Machado. Chris Sale is already breaking down, and he’s 30 and, again, not a free agent for two more years. Not really sure what you’re getting at here.
AlexVerdugoat
Harper to Toronto? My brain has been echoing this since the Pollock signing. Machado to San Diego would ultimately justify this. Where I am confused, is the fact that the Padres’ farm system is based mostly in their infield, just like the Jays. (But the Jays have no pitching in their system excluding Reid Foley and Pardinho) Anyone think they have a shot, they have no outfield prospects either. Too bad we signed Pollock.
Grizalt
What are you talking about? Besides Tatis their prospect depth on the left side of the infield is very weak. Potts and Edwards have some upside but also plenty of risk.
VladJrHype
Woah what? You’re forgetting Nate Pearson who is arguably the Jay’s top pitching prospect and is a consensus top 100 in the MLB. That being said, I thought Machado would have been a great fit to solidify the infield of the future with Vlad jr and Bichette coming up.
chop246
Sucks for the Phills. I dont think anyone wants to be in philly
Grizalt
What did they offer?
raef715
machado was taking the biggest offer, and the Phils didnt offer it.
johnnybadd2019
Good deal for the Pods now. They will trade him by year 4 or 5 to the AL
Grizalt
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shane
Not if they only want the older declining years
Grizalt
Which is all they will be getting if they trade for him.
James1955
Not a Padre fan. Machado and prospects not that far away. Looking good. Shock the world. Sign Harper.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
They do not need an elite outfielder, they need two elite pitchers, how about Keuchel and Kimbrel.
Grizalt
Padres don’t need to overpay for elite relievers (which, Kimbrel is not if he can’t re-gain the control he lost last year).
lowtalker1
Padres had kimbrel and don’t need him again. Plus hs is we preformed here
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
Hope hes prepared to lose fir at least the first 4 maybe 5 years.
Grizalt
Hope you are prepared for when KB is traded next offseason
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
Never gonna happen. If anything it will be an extension. KB will be a Cubs player for life. Nice troll attempt. Try harder next time.
Grizalt
Just wait my friend… Just wait 🙂
lowtalker1
Bryant won’t be extended. That’s a fact. Too expensive for the broke cubs
Hayward and deavish come back to bit ya
sdfriarfan
In those 4-5 years, he will have earned 120-150 million. I don’t think he’ll be too bummed.
pr0ject2501
No, but you will be.
pr0ject2501
Try all ten.
imindless
Clearly winning was not in his mindset. He wont win much being the only quality player in san diego. Hosmers deal is looking great so far lol
sdfriarfan
So…when he is 40 years old and retired, do you think he’ll be looking at the number of world series rings he did/did not win or the number of millions in his bank account?. I’d be looking for financial security from a up and coming team every day of the week rather than a lesser contract.
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Better chance with Padres than White Sox, all depends on Gore, Morejon and other prospect pitchers. Now, 2019, Padres won’t top 75 wins, young pitching maybe 2-3 years away.
Pads Fans
Las Vegas had the Padres at 77.5 wins before signing Machado. He is a 5+ win player.
Grizalt
They also had the Royals coming in 5th in their division in 2015.
Pads Fans
86.5 wins in 2015 was the Caesars Palace line on February 1st.
Grizalt
There is more than place that makes those lines. You conveniently picked the most bullish one.
Koamalu
He used the one that was on MLB Network. What should he have used?
Grizalt
All of them. Not surprising tho. Cherry-picking is kinda just what he does.
nowheretogobutup
Padres will be in the playoffs in 2020 and possible WS in 2021 get ready folks,
jameyc
id love some of what you are smoking brother.
RiverKKiller999
300 million dollars …..i can assure you he won’t be heart broken or commit suicide over the Padres losing any amount of games….
Matthew De Lorge
Seeing how many players take pay cuts and were willing to give up all of their awards just to sniff a ring, you obviously have no competitive bone in your body. He may be enjoying his money when he is 40, but his legacy WILL be on his mind.
Too bad he will have to look in the toilet to find that legacy now that he is with the Padres. The brown in the uniform will be fitting…..
sdfriarfan
I’d take Manny’s route. If you are living to create a lasting legacy for yourself, then you are your own biggest fan. Must be a lonely life Matt.
Manny is married. He’s created a very fine legacy for his wife and future family.
RiverKKiller999
That was kind of a sappy remark talking about his “legacy”… I almost cued the violin. If he looks in the toilet he might end up finding a couple million dollars he misplaced.
nowheretogobutup
Jealously reigns on this board, Matthew sorry you lose Padres Win.
Matthew De Lorge
Legacy as far as sports, something MANY players regret when they leave the sport with nothing. Seeing your reply was incoherent and had NOTHING to do with his legacy as a player, which I was referring to, I will assume you have no answer to this.
Thank you for playing though……
SG
I’m happy for you SD fans.
You’ll get instant national TV games in prime time.
Now you can work on the pitching.
You have some great young talent coming back and coming up.
I have an additional competitive team to watch on the West Coast.
I’m an East Coast night owl with MLB Extra Innings.
So I get all the games.
Manny is a good player.
I saw him play for years in Baltimore.
Wish you SD fans the best.
ReverieDays
Some stupid team is going to spend more than this soon on a worse player in Harper.
raef715
if they make more money off of Harper than Machado, is it still stupid?
bravesfan
Can I have like 1% of this contract? Lol
shane
I’d laugh if the orioles are on the no trade list
axisofhonor25
Nice job White Sox. Whiffed once again because y’all too cheap to open the wallet. Will most definitely whiff on Harper too. Will not buy a ticket this year.
STLBaseballFanSince2020
$300 million
Chicago vs San Diego
I mean, I know what I’m picking..
RIPprosports
Horrible decision to put this guy on such a young team. Why would you want someone like this mentoring your young talent for the next 10 years?
Matthew De Lorge
They will lead the league in spiked opponents
pr0ject2501
And bats thrown at pitchers.
youtu.be/65JTu0lxDSE
nowheretogobutup
Get ready Dodger fans here comes the start of a new dynasty in the West, there’ more coming before the season starts, could be an Ace SP trade or two.
Bunselpower
I agree with you. But many people don’t see chemistry and the locker room as significant.
VegasSDfan
As I said, choosing San Diego over Philly is a no brainer
raef715
ask Howard, Utley, Rollins, Hamels if they would have traded playing in front of Philly fans in 08-11 for San Diego.
if you want to relax and have warm weather, San Diego is great, of course. SD will be great for a guy like Machado..
DadsInDaniaBeach
I’m guessing you’ve never been to Philly..
I’ve never been to SD and would never say something about a city I had no knowledge of..
empty barrel
VegasSDfan
I have been to San Diego, its mild in the Summer, nice beaches, downtown, gaslamp district, nice stadium, variety of places to live well under his budget. For a larger city, it’s fairly safe. Tell me about philly
jt3z
Shiitiest fans in the us for every sports team would be the best way to describe philly
raef715
if you are winning, or exert effort, it’s a great place to play.
yes, some bad fans, but the lazy media still throws out the stories from 30 to 60 years ago.
VegasSDfan
I have been to San Diego, its mild in the Summer, nice beaches, downtown, gaslamp district, nice stadium, variety of places to live well under his budget. For a larger city, it’s fairly safe. It’s on the coast. Tell me about Philly
Ebouch25
Good luck with the Padres dealing with that punk.
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
To one person he is a punk, and to another he may prove to be a small market savior. While he may dog it to first on the occasional routine ground ball, I don’t think there is a fiercer competitor than Manny. Manny wants to win and he will do whatever it takes to do so, even play a little dirty at times. I’m cool with that.
Jimcarlo Slaton
When you’re out by 30 feet on a routine ground ball and kick the first baseman, that’s not playing to win, it’s sulking.. By all means, enjoy the signing if you’re a Padre fan, but saying he plays dirty to win is disingenuous at this point.
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
He plays to win — period. And I have never heard a teammate, in any capacity claim otherwise. I’ll take Machado antics like that any day if he can excite the fan base and bring some life to San Diego sports.
Ebouch25
Dirty at times? The guy has about 5 egregious acts every season. Whether it’s fights, arguments, trying to hurt someone or just giving up. If he didn’t have his talent, he wouldn’t even be a bench player with that attitude.
nowheretogobutup
I see envy showing when he comes to your town you can boo all you want but SD will be cheering for a looooong time
iamoldboy
Good. NL. Sayanora.
SG
I’m guessing that MLB was afraid of Tony Clark and the Union …… LOL
ONLY KIDDING !!!!!
Maybe Tampa picks up Harper …. LOL
They’ll be an instant contender!
DadsInDaniaBeach
Rhys Hoskins on Harper::::
“”””””Would I like to play with somebody that I know?” Hoskins said. “Of course I would. I think him and I are developing a relationship that could last a long time. Any time you can play with a friend, I think that’s always exciting.””””””
As a Phan, I still want to see it..
csspackler
A little perspective.
In terms of impact alone, this is the Padres biggest free agent signing since Steve Garvey in 1982. His contract: 5 years/$6.6 million.
Begamin
What? Big Game James Shield got 4 years, $75MM in 2014-15 offseason. Did you also forget about Hosmer?
mdbaseball05
Haha maybe he just wants to forget about them?
I thought the same thing though. You only had to go back a year to find a contract bigger than Steve Garvey….
lowtalker1
I think he is referring to impact player
DadsInDaniaBeach
I really wanted Machado in Philly..I wish him luck in SD..I don’t think it’s a bad deal at all..
BigB
I’m a diehard White Sox fan. This is disappointing. However, the future is very bright. Congratulations to the Padres.
nowheretogobutup
I agree the White Sox have some good young talent and the future is bright. Good to see your FO and GM stepping up.
jd396
Safe to say… Nobody is acing the FA prediction contest.
nowheretogobutup
No Collusion here that’s for sure, Union and players have nothing to gripe about now
Bryzzo2016
Manny might have said no thanks to the Sux, but he does appreciate their thirsty, desperate contracts extended to his bum, fringe ML friends and relatives. In this FA market, Alonso, Jay, etc… probably wouldn’t have been offered contracts.
jbissell
Congrats to Machado. I think Harper will get something slightly higher.
What will definitely be intriguing is Mike Trouts free agency in 2020. He is on an elite level of his own. Could he be the first 400 or even half a billion dollar player?
Begamin
Depends on what Bryce gets. If Bryce gets 320-350MM, i would assume Trout could get $400MM. Although, Trout would be older than Harper at the time of their FA’s so maybe Trout would still be in the high $300MM’s
Grizalt
This is the second offseason in a row that playing the long-game in free agency has worked out for a player, courtesy of the Padres.
jbigz12
But at least this time they got the checkbook out for a consistently solid player instead of a 1B who did exactly what he has always done. Can’t believe they gave an inconsistent player that much money. I thought Davis was the last big albatross we’d see for a 1B with the way theyve been revalued. The Machado signing fills an Obvious need. I like it personally. It’s a ton of money but combining an impact star with all that young talent could be dangerous in the coming years. Particularly if guys like Mejia,Urias and Tatis hit their ceilings.
timewalk42
Big Money Boring result Pffft.. Manny to the Friars what a let down another all star stuck on a team that’s not gonna snuff the playoffs for years besides nobody outside of San Diego is watching him play now
nowheretogobutup
Padres will be in the playoffs in 2020 and the WS in 2021 YAAAAA
groundhog5150
As a Padres fan, I don’t think I’ve ever said just wait until next year and actually meant it.
2020 can’t come fast enough for me.
nowheretogobutup
Latest on the board Padres are offering three possible four players for Kluber, 1 OF, 1-C, Brad Hand RP and or a top 25 SP. This will fill three holes for the Tribe.
Kluber has two yrs remaining if I’m not mistaken good upside for both teams, Tribe can’t afford to resign Kluber in two years.
If this doesn’t come to fruition there will be another trade for a good SP within the week for the Friars.
SdPadSquad
That’s very interesting, hopefully they don’t trade Renfroe, I feel he just now found himself in the second half of last season. He was monsterous and clutch. Would hate to see him go. But this would highly benefit both sides, being the pads need pitching and Indians need outfielders
nowheretogobutup
The two possibilities mentioned for OF was Renfroe and Margot one of those not both. Margot if he hits again with his speed would be a great leadoff player, Renfore has the power but his K’s are high and not as strong defensively. The C would be Hedges along with Brad Hand.
Grizalt
Trading Brad Hand to CLE for Kluber would be interesting considering Hand already plays for CLE.
Oh and Kluber has three more years of control.
nowheretogobutup
You’re right my bad its the SP in top 25 someone we’d have to give up with a good name plus Hedges and one of the two OF’s. Still could be four players for Kluber and I think it would be worth it. We haven’t had an ACE in a looong time. Of course if Hedges goes who’s really ready to step in, don’t say Mejia he’s a year away.
Grizalt
Mejia. He only has one option year left so the Padres basically have to know what the plan is with him by the end of the 2019 season.
Anyway, the Indians aren’t trading Kluber. They want to win a title now and that’s more likely with Kluber than with anyone they could get for him.
hockeyjohn
Cleveland has no need for Hedges and the Padres outfielders are not exciting as they all have definite flaws. It would cost you prospects that you do not want to trade plus an outfielder to get Kluber. With that said, I don’t see Kluber being traded at this time.
san diego4life
Isn’t hand already on the indians?
GoldenArm
I think the best trading partner for the Pads is Atlanta……..who re-signed an aging Markakis for right field.
The Braves have a HUGE surplus of great arms in their system, and the Pads have lots of outfielders. A 1-for-1 trade would help both teams, and gut neither’s farm system, whereas Kluber would drain a bunch of great prospects, and I believe Kluber has 2 more years as an Ace, tops. I am not up to snuff on either Atlanta’s or San Diego’s ratings of their own prospects, so I can’t venture a fair trade idea, but with so many great prospects on each team, something could and should come to fruition. If Tatis turns into a MLB stud, and they get some pitching, watch OUT! Same for the Braves, one more big bat for the outfield, and some of their young starters come up and backstop their rotation, they are going to be a Dominant force in the NL for years, with Acuna and Albies and Freeman in the middle of that lineup/
kiddhoff
Like most of the other comments here, I really have nothing to add to the conversation. Just wanted to post to help get to 1000 comments.
jleve618
I can get behind that sentiment.
nowheretogobutup
Well done AJ, at least now the Union and players assoc. can’t say there’s collusion,
Mikel Grady
Woo hoo! Jason Heyward looks like a bargain
throwinched10
Except for the fact that Jason Heyward is not a good Major League Baseball player…
STLBaseballFanSince2020
I believe the word you are looking for is ‘burden’
groundhog5150
Bauer is unhappy with the Cleveland brass and has stated that he will only sign one year contracts.
The Indians still need outfield help.
I think Bauer is arbitration eligible for 2020.
Flip him at the 2020 trade deadline if not in contention or submit a qualifying offer.
It would give the young pitchers another 1 1/2- 2 years to sort themselves out.
Yeah, I know I’m dreaming.
SdPadSquad
Huge step forward
Ichiro51
Already have people saying that he will be traded during this mid-season. it’s like none of these people ever watched baseball before commenting. When has a player signed a contract this big and traded within a season…If that was the case they would’ve attempted to sign him for a shorter amount of years. Their signing him for 10 because eventually they’ll contend. maybe even this year…
Grizalt
The problem with trading him, if the Padres wanted to, is that no one is going to want to trade for him.
raef715
isnt that what they said about Robinson Cano?
KyfaninGA
The Padre prospects will have to come on fast for them to contend unless their management is willing to spend a lot more money in future years. This game still requires a full team and they now have too much money tied up in two players. Machado at $30mm, Hosmer at $21mm then no one else is making money yet. Myers makes $20mm next year or they have to trade him. These are nice deals for fans to cheer for Manny but unless they want to have a payroll similar to the Yankees- virtually guarantees their not being a contender. Maybe they have a chance in the first five years if the young guys are as good as promised. The good news is they signed Manny- the bad news is they have to pay Manny. Best wishes to the Padre fans.
max57
Money isn’t that much of an issue. MLB teams are pulling in over $100m in TV rights. The Padres payroll is still under $115m. There’s still room to do more if they want.
jd396
This just in – Harper reportedly agrees to 10 year, $400m contract with Mystery Team.
jleve618
Noone knows what that mystery team is, but Heyman reports that it is in southeastern Pennsylvania.
nonadhominem
I sure hope not. I want my Phillies to have no part of Harper. Too much of the ask is based on hype and inconsistent.
damascusj
so many salty turds.
“wah wah my team didnt sign him so now the padres suck and are stupid!”
“hell be a yankee in 3 years”
all spoken by idiots who dont understand that the pads have the best next few years of any team, thanks to our amazing farm. its gonna be fun to watch the crybabies get silent when the padres beat their team and do some damage in october..
petfoodfella
Who’s gonna pitch in this October you speak of?
davidcoonce74
I think this is a great signing by the Padres. It proves that even “low-budget” teams can, if they want to, sign anyone they want to. Owners pleading poverty is obviously not real. Machado also gives the Padres a marquee player, which they haven’t had since, like, I don’t know, Tony Gwynn? Trevor?
And this stuff about him being “dirty” or “not hustling.” This stuff is overblown; yes he said something dumb about not hustling in the heat of a tough post-season game with a microphone thrust in his face. But the dude plays every game, every year. He doesn’t beg out of the lineup, like we would guess from “non-hustlers.” Ted Williams and Babe Ruth were famously derided by the media for not hustling, all the time (Williams was deserved; Ruth was mostly because he was still groggy from the night before) . Machado isn’t those guys, obviously, but the point is that “hustling” is just a sort of construct to mean whatever we want it to. The whole “lazy” player thing is generally icky (because it’s almost entirely used on non-white players) but it’s also just narrative and is almost always entirely anecdotal.
The dirty player thing is also dumb narrative; people love guys like McCann and Utley and Pierzynski and Rose and Cobb – all those guys were dirty players, using the same standard we’re using for Machado. Except all those guys were called “gamers,” rather than “dirty.” I wonder why that is?
jbigz12
Machado is undoubtedly “dirty.” He throws temper tamptrums. IE throwing the bat or kicking Aguilar’s ankle. There’s no changing that narrative because it’s true. He doesn’t play “hard” so it’s pretty clear why he doesn’t get that narrative. He never runs a ground ball out and he makes a stupid decision to kick someone in the ankle or throw a bat once a year. Doesn’t change the fact that he’s a great player but the narrative fits the individual. And BTW Utley was certainly dirty however a hard slide into 2B is for a reason. Kicking someone’s ankle on 1B is a joke…. Let’s just call it like it is here DC.
jleve618
Only thing though is Machado gets rave reviews from his teammates.
jbigz12
And for that matter how you spin things can significantly change your narrative as well. Machado coming out and saying “I’m not Johnny Hustle” isn’t going to help his persona. Particularly with some of the things he’s done on the baseball field. There’s a way you can sell yourself and tone down the negativity towards you and that certainly isn’t the way. Would a better question be why wasn’t Chase Utley considered dirty? Sure, but there’s not much of an argument for Machado not being a dirty player. When you dog it on ground balls yet go spikes up into guys/kick them in the ankle it’s not hard to imagine why you’d get that narrative. That story fits a little better than being Latino to me.
zachgwest
Not saying Machado is my ideal player but in his defense a first baseman should know better than to have his foot anywhere on top of the bag. He’s actually causing a dangerous situation for the runner deserves to get stepped on…
petfoodfella
What about that one time HE THREW THE BAT into the infield!?
STLBaseballFanSince2020
So did Nyjer Morgan, what’s your point?
davidcoonce74
“He never runs a ground ball out.” Machado was 9th in baseball in 2018 in infield singles. Another dumb narrative inconvenienced by facts.
jbigz12
Wanna post a link to that? Or a running 3 year link on that because I saw Machado play a lot of games in Baltimore and i saw a lot of ground balls not get ran out. If he did, he did. Makes his comment even more asinine if he was among the league leaders in infield singles. Though I doubt over his career he’s anywhere near the top of the league in that category.
davidcoonce74
It’s on fangraphs. You can look it up. The URL is unwieldy. I also don’t know what they classify as an “infield single” but the narrative just doesn’t fit. I understand Machado said something dumb, but pro athletes say lots of dumb things in the locker room after a game.
jbigz12
I couldn’t find any links whatsoever on infield singles which is the only reason I asked. I’ve never bothered to look into that and I couldn’t find anything at all on it.
Pads Fans
Machado ranks 41st in infield hits since 2013 of the 377 players with enough at bats to qualify for the batting title.
fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&…
Charles Russell
You realize Machado never had a lazy narrative attached to him until he attached it to himself last fall? Search for “Benches clear after Donaldson tags Machado” on YouTube and see what pops up. Eric Byrnes on the MLB channel had a compilation video on Machado tonight showing what a jerk he can be and he wondered what the heck was going on with this guy? He has a long history of issues. At the same time, his teammates seem to like him and his talent is unquestionable. Machado is a complex human being like everyone else.
Cut the race crap. I’ve seen plenty of lazy from white players. As a Rangers fan, ask me what I think about Josh Hamilton. Oh yeah – I never liked A. J. Pierzynski, either. Refused to root for him when he was a Ranger.
JoeBrady
He didn’t run out a fly ball off the wall in the biggest game of his career.
Can we leave it at that?
Charles Russell
We? I wasn’t the one who started this nonsense. Machado did. And he wasn’t talking about one play in one game. He was talking about his entire philosophy. Good Lord, blame him. Not “we”.
For the record, I have no issues with Machado and wish he were on my team. Anyone who thinks he isn’t worth the contract he just signed is an idiot.
But he said what he said, and however unfair it may be, that burden is on him. If he wants to change the perception, he”ll have to do something to change that perception – not we. Even if he becomes the new Mr. October and wins multiple WS rings, he will STILL have this following him: “you will remember that this was the guy who once said he would never be Johnny Hustle.”
Sorry, the label will follow him the rest of his life – either as an obstacle he could not fully overcome – or (and I hope this is it) one that he could.
mrpadre19
Lazy players take games off…..not just plays.
Machado played 162 last year.
Cole Shepherd
I’d like to see Bob Gibson throw one at your head.
davidcoonce74
Don Drysdale actively tried to injure players while he was on the mound, hurling a baseball as hard as he could at their heads. Gibson too. Those guys were just gamers, right? Just playing the game hard, right? Pete Rose ended a guy’s career by running him over in a meaningless exhibition game. Just playing hard, right? Ted Williams was pretty well-known for not running out ground balls. He also spit on fans routinely, and had to be forced by his teammates to come out of the dugout after his final at-bat to acknowledge the fans standing ovation. But he was just a gamer, right? Playing the game the right way.
Cole Shepherd
and Gibson was even darker than Machado!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thus destroying your very white and idiotic point.
davidcoonce74
Uh, you seem unhinged, but I was referring to players being “lazy” as being applied inaccurately to non-white players. Not players being dirty. Please try to keep up, if you can get your finger off the exclamation points.
PalmaBoy
In a long line of your dishonest comments this one takes the cake. First off Gibson and Don didn’t ever try to hurt anyone. Second that “meaningless” game was actually a huge payday at that tine for winning clubs players. Ted Williams never ever spit on or at fans. You need to push around kids at your own little league and stop playing internet tough guy know it all. You are 100% full of it.
davidcoonce74
You, um, might want to read a biography of Ted Williams sometime. He had an incredibly antagonistic relationship with the Boston fans. He had an incredibly antagonistic relationship with everyone. He was a surly dude who played baseball because he was great at it, but he didn’t like any other part of the game. As soon as the season was over he was out – he didn’t do fan events, he didn’t barnstorm – he went to his true love, which was hunting and fishing.
And ditto with Drysdale and Gibson. Those guys were headhunters. When you throw a baseball at a guy’s head you can really hurt him. Ask Ray Chapman. Or Adam Greenberg.
davidcoonce74
boston.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2017/08/07/ted-wi…
This is an article that explains how Williams was fined by the Sox for spitting on fans, and declaring “I’d spit again.” This stuff isn’t even hard to find.
davidcoonce74
Ted Williams was fined by his team for spitting on fans, and said he’d “do it again”.” Google is your friend in this one, okay?
JoeBrady
I like the signing. But there is no reason to pretend that he isn’t a dirty player. He’s been caught too often.
James1955
The Padres have a low payroll and top prospects that are not that far away. Most teams don’t want to go over the CBT. Keep your fingers crossed. There is no such thing as a risk free player.
jleve618
Awesome to see the Padres sign him. Great for baseball. Turn the stove’s burners back on.
Juggy
Why would anybody want to sign with Philadelphia? Think about it, the fans are horrible, Philadelphia itself is a filthy city. It’s cold and miserable. Their sports newscaster are taught to be homers and try way to hard on the news and radio. Nothing in Philadelphia is good not even their overrated cheesesteaks
Gwynning's Anal Lover
Good point
Wade Herbers
Isn’t the cheese Velveeta? step above gov. cheese? Good lord for classy!
Juggy
Cheese wiz
whynot 2
San Diego did have climate going for them. Having spent so many cold April nights in Baltimore, he was well aware of what signing with philly would mean.
davidcoonce74
Here’s the real numbers.
Machado, 2018:
162 games. 709 PAs. 84 R, 188 H, 35 2B, 37 HRs, 107 RBI, 14 SB. 297/367/538. 70 BBs,
Every single one of these numbers would have led the Padres in 2018.
And, interestingly, for a guy who “doesn’t hustle,” Machado has missed 11 games in the last four seasons. He doesn’t beg out of games. He doesn’t take days off. He’s maybe the most durable player in baseball at this point.
And another thing; Machado is bilingual. The Padres’ best prospect, Tatis, Jr. is going to be playing alongside him, and speaks Spanish. The Padres 2B, Urias, also is a Spanish speaker. Don’t discount the importance of the ability to communicate in that way.
VonPurpleHayes
davidcoonce74,
Anyone who says Machado and Harper are overrated and not worth, are just flat out wrong. Seeing these big money deals on paper is enough to scare off any fan, but when you get down to it both these guys are worth it. The Padres made a great move for their organization. There’s absolutely no denying it. And they’ll certainly be competing in 2020 and beyond.
whynot 2
If one of those two is worth $30 mil per year, specially over a 10 year period, it is Machado. Despite the less than stellar personality traits demonstrated last season, he plays better defense and has been a more consistent offensive player than Harper. He has an almost nonexistent injury history compared to Harper. Plus Harper’s max effort swing can only lead to mechanical and physical issues as he ages.
The padres window to win will be small, it is hard to imagine a team being able to field a winning team for an extended period of time with only two players taking up $50+ in payroll space. To take the next step they’ll need to sign or trade for a premier pitcher and that could easily mean locking up about $80 mil in three players. They will have to win before their own prospects and young players start getting expensive.
SFGiantsGallore
Couldn’t agree with you more PurpleHayes. The timing of the deal is perfect for the kids coming up from the farm. Total giants fan, but SD is going to be a threat in the coming years for sure!
Indianfan
A lot cheaper to have those young Latin players take English lessons., don’t you think?
davidcoonce74
They do that, too, but there’s absolutely no harm in having bilingual players on the team. It’s a global sport now. And, FWIW, English is a hard language because it’s so imprecise – way too many exceptions, especially in verb forms and plural nouns – and it’s much harder to learn a second language as an adult than as a child. And these guys have limited hours in a day; I’d rather them work on their baseball skills than their English skills.
SargentDownvote
* MLB Rant incoming *
Someone was willing to pay Manny that money… so he’s worth it (I didn’t think he was). If Harper signs for more or the same amount, will the MLB Players Association still have a hissy fit because “it took too long” to sign these players to mega contracts? I am all for players getting as much as they can. But for the greater good, both players and owners will need to understand that ANY work stoppage will further destroy the sport. Stupid pitch clocks and replay reviews.
Just raise the pitcher’s mound to what it used to be and have less commercial breaks between innings (commercial breaks every other inning). Those two changes will speed up a game. Better pitching speeds up a game.
Next year, someone will try to introduce aluminum bats because it will inject more offense in the game (and it will be environmentally friendly). Games will be 23 – 10. Yeah, that will speed up games.
JoeBrady
The PA is filled with idiots. I like Clark from a personality perspective and as a player, but he is in way over his head. The CBA was awful from the moment they signed it. And his subsequent comments just babbling.
whynot 2
I can’t believe I have to say this but baseball is cyclical. It is offense driven for a while until pitching and defense catches up then you end up with less offense until the hitting catches up. There will always be up and downs in amount of scoring so changing the pitching mound is just silly. The last time it was changed was about 50 years ago so you can’t just return it to “what it used to be”.
Also, you can’t be serious about eliminating commercial breaks? You do realize each one of those is worth money right?
Lastly, pitch clock and replay reviews are good. Could the reviews be done faster, sure but it works. They should move to remove umpires from calling balls and strikes, that may be the improvement they should really be looking at.
petfoodfella
There should be a time limit on replays. 60 seconds or the call stands.
Willy Mays
You do realize that pitching is better than its been in many years right. The average batting average in baseball is 248. Why would you raise the pitchers mound. Eras are lower also. Do you watch the game Scooter Gennets 306 average was the sixth highest in all of baseball and you want to help the pitchers. Think before you write
nowheretogobutup
Padres need an Ace and there’s time to trade or sign a FA, that would make a huge difference for their young SP’s. The RP core is very solid, they now have three guys in the middle of the order who can rake some damage, With their farm system ready to come forth also.
GO FRIARS. Its going to be exciting baseball in San Diego for years.
JoeBrady
Congrats. I doubt you can win this year, so I wouldn’t make any more current moves. You definitely need an ace, but I doubt you can get one right now. No reason to overpay to get to .500. Wait until the kids are playing.
Comrade Tipsy McStagger
I’m doing my part to get this to a thousand comments. Are you?
RATTY
Now it’s time for some Baby Pad swagger to come to the party.
mikejju22
About time [after 50 years of existence]! In a very unstable N.L. West It’s looking like the Padres might want to contend. 9 Years since they were above .500, they may be looking at having a winning season again. That is of course if the Dodgers don’t heat up, the D-backs commit to rebuilding without competing, the Rockies don’t figure things out and the Giants falter. But those are all big Ifs. Odds are Colorado, SF, SD & LA are fighting for a spot or 2 in the playoffs.
csspackler
Official. Contract signed.
bobtillman
Padres have also hired Manny’s second cousin on the third side twice removed to be a hot dog vendor. It’s the REAL reason Manny signed in San Diego.
woody0028
So just about the time that the Padres young studs are ready Machado can opt out? Great signing …,
Kwflanne
A) manny won’t be opting out at age 31 with five more years of guaranteed 30 million a year. Won’t happen.
B) the Padres prospects are coming in waves. Some are one year away, some are two, some are three…. (I feel like I shouldn’t have to explain this… all it takes is a little research on your part).
Grizalt
Lol you actually think Padres haters on this website do any research as opposed to just blindly acting like things are still the way they were under Moores?
bradthebluefish
Should be seeing Padres young pitching coming up this summer. 2020 should be their year.
Kwflanne
I’m thinking more like 2021-2022… Some of the top pitchers are still a bit away. Gore, patino still need to play A ball…. Morejon hasn’t pitched a full season due to injuries…. the only ones actually close are Allen and Paddack (maybe Quantrill if he can figure it out). But I’m actually not very high on Allen, and I’m a little worried about Paddack. No denying Paddack numbers last year, but he only made 7 starts above A ball, and he really needs a third pitch. He’s a fastball/changeup and command of each is plus…. but he isn’t exactly a flamethrower with the fastball, so he can’t make mistakes. That’s why he really needs a third pitch to develop. Still plenty of time for that, but patino is actually has a better arsenal of pitches to last as a starter (at this time)
bigwestbaseball
Aguilar kept putting his foot on the bag to hurt the Dodgers (I am 100% correct), and deserved what Machado did. I became a huge Machado fan at that moment. He stuck up for his team! Awesome job Machado, you got paid!!
22Leo
You are so wrong. That is just a flat-out stupid attempt to make an excuse for Machado. What excuse are you going to come up with for the time right after that when he threw his arm out to hit the second baseman as he slid in? Both plays were incredibly dirty and not the first time Machado exhibited that kind of behavior. I’m a Dodgers fan and as soon as I saw that I wanted him off the team. Not to mention that he is a lazy baserunner. Good riddance.
bigdaddyhacks
You have never played organized ball. This post clearly shows that. Machado does that to me and he’s getting whacked instantly.
Grizalt
Lmao I’m sure he is big guy
some guy 2
I wonder if the Orioles are on his 6 team no-trade list
Grizalt
Not likely. Teams generally use the list to block trades to the teams that they think are most likely to trade for them or teams that they have a personal problem with the city or organization. Manny and the Orioles had a good relationship during his time there and being in the early stages of a rebuild they probably won’t be interested in trading for him.
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Swinging Friars
Swwèéeeeeeeeet!
Now bring back the chicken!! 10/100?
axisofhonor25
Fully guaranteed. Of course he signed. Also guaranteed is the bite that Preller is gonna feel in the rear after his team doesn’t make the WS during that decade.
Grizalt
That is some serious crystal ball stuff right there.
Lefty Grove’s right hand
Which six teams are on his no trade list?
Lefty Grove’s right hand
Just a guess
Tampa Bay
Toronto
Miami
Baltimore
Kansas City
And of course Oakland
The usually suspects
Swinging Friars
or the six teams he feels will be competitive and/or most likely to seek him, gain some leverage if he wants something out of it
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
He’s smart getting a partial no trade clause. Shows he likes them but he knows they likely won’t win while he’s there. I would have personally got a 20 team no trade clause.
ThatBallwasBryzzoed
And he wont make the playoffs til his 5th year and he’ll opt out. And still only be 32. And get an 8 year deal with the Jankees.
James1955
If the Yankees want Machado or Harper, why not sign them now at a young age? In 5 years the Yankees may have better options than a 31 year old Machado or Harper.
neurogame
Legend has it that Kenny Williams has yet to take off his sunglasses.
VegasSDfan
Padres, Offer Harper 10/300, with an option.
He wants to be on the West Coast.
OilCanLloyd
Will go down as a bad signing. Hamstring the Friars for the next decade. This was more a business descision rather than baseball one. He’s no difference maker. To his credit, he doesn’t claim to be. “I’m no Charlie Hustle”
Kwflanne
Because being a difference maker and being “Charlie hustle” are the same thing? Yeah, 4 time all-stars and 2 time gold glove winners aren’t usually difference makers, especially when they are hitting around .285 with about 30 homeruns a year…. especially on a team with a lack of offense. Those numbers won’t make a difference…. FYI: Padres ownership is meeting today to see if they can also sign Bryce Harper. Regardless if they end up with him or not, if they were “hamstringed” by the machado contract, they wouldn’t even be considering a Harper signing. Nice try. Move on
Grizalt
Why are White Sox fans mad? The Padres didn’t “steal” Machado from them. They offered him the better contract. If the White Sox really wanted him all they had to do was match what the Padres were offering.
padreforlife
Padre fans think Machado went there because of Hosmer