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Phillies In Lead For Bryce Harper

By Connor Byrne | February 17, 2019 at 7:00pm CDT

7:00PM: Harper’s market is still “evolving,” as Heyman puts it in his latest tweet.  The Phillies are still seen as the likeliest team to land Harper, though the outfielder has received several long-term deals with an average annual value of more than $30MM per season.

6:01PM: There is no deal yet, though according to USA Today’s Bob Nightengale (Twitter link), Harper “will ultimately receive” a larger contract than the ten-year, $300MM offer he received from the Nationals before free agency began.

1:15PM: As was the case a month ago, the Phillies are the favorites to sign free-agent outfielder Bryce Harper, Jon Heyman of MLB Network tweets. But Harper’s market has “intensified,” according to Heyman, who unsurprisingly notes he’ll eventually sign a long-term contract.

Philadelphia met with Harper back on Jan. 10, though he and fellow free-agent superstar/Phillies target Manny Machado have shockingly remained on the market since then. Both the Giants and Padres have since joined the race for Harper, who, as of two weeks ago, had drawn interest from “at least” eight teams, Heyman reported. Only five suitors have been identified, though, with Harper’s career-long club – the Nationals – accompanying the Phillies, Giants, Padres and White Sox. The Yankees and Mets are two teams that can be ruled out, Andy Martino of SNY tweets.

Harper entered the offseason seeking a contract worth upward of $300MM – a figure that he could still match or exceed, despite his unexpectedly long stay on the market. And the Phillies are arguably in better position than anyone else to bid an extravagant amount for Harper, as they came into the winter expecting to spend “stupid” money, according to owner John Middleton. The big-market team has been aggressive in improving its roster to this point, having added J.T. Realmuto, Jean Segura, Andrew McCutchen and David Robertson, but it’s not spending an eyebrow-raising sum on any of those players. Plus, despite those upgrades, the Phillies still aren’t in great shape in the outfield, with Odubel Herrera, Nick Williams, Roman Quinn and Aaron Altherr serving as their best options besides McCutchen. The 26-year-old Harper blows that group out of the water, needless to say, and his presence would significantly boost the Phillies’ chances of breaking their seven-season playoff drought in 2019.

Should Harper head to Philly, it would remove a prime suitor for Machado, as the club’s only willing to sign one of the two. Without the Phillies in the mix, Machado would seemingly be left to choose between the Padres and White Sox, who have courted him, though it’s possible a previous suitor such as the Yankees or a mystery team could involve themselves in the race to sign him.

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351 Comments

  1. RiverCatsFilms

    6 years ago

    Yay another rumor

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    • brooksinga

      6 years ago

      Isn’t that the point of the app?

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      • justinept

        6 years ago

        It’s February… It isn’t the fault of the app, but I think people just want some closure on FA already…

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      • vinnie

        6 years ago

        1
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      • greglowcws

        6 years ago

        Haha true true it’s not called MLB Trade Facts.

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    • AC_Slater123 2

      6 years ago

      Who would’ve thought we’d get rumors on TradeRumors

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    • DannyQ3913

      6 years ago

      That’s the apps name hahaha

      Reply
    • todd76

      6 years ago

      X where’s your comments on this article?

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    • hohnav21

      6 years ago

      Hahahahaha

      Reply
  2. Brixton

    6 years ago

    9/297, opt out after 3 and a opt-out-veto-arrieta-thingy after year 7, where the phillies can veto his opt out for 2/66 with 3/105

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  3. kobo77

    6 years ago

    I wonder if there is a bidding war going on at the moment

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    • jleve618

      6 years ago

      I wonder what I’m going to eat for dinner…

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      • DarkSide830

        6 years ago

        i wonder what the purpose of this comment is

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        • MB923

          6 years ago

          I wonder what the purpose of this comment was

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        • Cuso

          6 years ago

          Oh I wonder, wonder who mmbadooh o-oh. Who wrote the book of love?

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        • clepto

          6 years ago

          quality dig on a dig. nice work. keep it up. you got an upvote.

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        • clepto

          6 years ago

          downvoted. unoriginal. try again.

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        • chicagofan1978

          6 years ago

          I’m new to this app, so I’m genuinely wondering. Why do you keep saying upvote or downvote? I get it’s your schtick like the k. guy or dumpster diving theo, but I don’t even see an option to downvote or upvote. So really I don’t get it. Maybe I’m doing something wrong. Or it’s a joke I don’t get or it’s just not funny to me idk. Thanks

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        • Cat Mando

          6 years ago

          chicagofan1978
          Up and down vote are not view able on the app, only the actual website

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        • Captain Dunsel

          6 years ago

          The Monotones.

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        • mattingly23

          6 years ago

          Ppl who access the site using a browser have the option to vote on comments. Those of us using the app on phones don’t see any of that. As a result, some people “weaponize” their upvotes and downvotes thinking to try and hurt others’ self-worth. Anyhow, welcome to the comments section. I

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        • clepto

          6 years ago

          weaponized downvote applied to your comment. you sir, have a nice positive rest of your day.

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        • chicagofan1978

          6 years ago

          Ah ok, thanks guys. Yeah the browser one is too much work for me I guess. Anyway have an upvote even though it’s not technically legit

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        • ThisIsTheYear

          6 years ago

          Lol how old are you XD

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        • murphydog

          6 years ago

          I wonder, did I leave the iron on?

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        • fox471 Dave

          6 years ago

          I did

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        • fox471 Dave

          6 years ago

          Thank you. Wondered about the downvote stuff.

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      • clepto

        6 years ago

        quality dig. upvoted

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        • canocorn

          6 years ago

          Bryce in wonder land.

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      • outinleftfield

        6 years ago

        You win the internet today.

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    • scottn59c

      6 years ago

      No, because the Phillies are the only team willing to offer 10 years and over 300 million.

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      • outinleftfield

        6 years ago

        Right now he has at least 3 offers over $300 million including the Nationals.

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    • gmenfan

      6 years ago

      Yes, the Phillies trying to outbid the Phillies.

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      • nymetsking

        6 years ago

        Careful, the Phillies are lurking as a mystery bidder.

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        • sasafrass81

          6 years ago

          I heard from one of my sources that the Phillies have told Boras that after the Phillies or even the Phillies make an offer to circle back to the Phillies so they can take one last stab at Harper to outbid the presumed front winner Phillies…

          That Philly office at CBP must be going crazy right now wondering which bid they made will be accepted lol

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        • canocorn

          6 years ago

          Did I mention Phillie?

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        • fox471 Dave

          6 years ago

          Smile.

          Reply
  4. rsmlbtr

    6 years ago

    I heard 10 years 310 million

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    • Balk

      6 years ago

      Source?

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      • DarkSide830

        6 years ago

        some other randos on this site

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      • Cat Mando

        6 years ago

        CBS sports
        twitter.com/DavidPSamson/status/109715487843305472…
        Took less than 10 seconds to find it

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        • Balk

          6 years ago

          Boo, it’s Twitter!! Bahahaha, I thought it was an actual source. What’s funny is when you ask someone who is putting out rumors for a source people get there panties in a bunch! Some of these people on this site crack me up. All I know, is sign already, damn!

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        • outinleftfield

          6 years ago

          He is repeating a rumor started by @mlbinsider_ on Twitter. Its garbage.

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        • Cat Mando

          6 years ago

          Balk…………
          So an employee of CBS sports who tweets is not a source? OK…have a nice day.

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        • outinleftfield

          6 years ago

          Sampson repeated a tweet by a fake account.

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        • Balk

          6 years ago

          Exactly my point outinleftfield. More bull!

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      • cscd1111

        6 years ago

        David P. Samson of CBS Sports

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      • rsmlbtr

        6 years ago

        David P. Sampson of CBS sports

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    • hiflew

      6 years ago

      I heard 52 years 17 billion. Of course I also said it, so maybe take it with a grain of salt.

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      • bobtillman

        6 years ago

        Funny I heard the same thing….from an un-named source at the White House.….

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        • elscorchot

          6 years ago

          They only spend the biggest, best money for the greatest players, there

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        • ThisIsTheYear

          6 years ago

          Which source in the White House would ever put their name on it?

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        • jim31762

          6 years ago

          You mean Waffle House

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      • Joe Covert

        6 years ago

        Only if a Rascal is included and oxygen.

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      • jekporkins

        6 years ago

        You posted it on Twitter so I believe you, buddy.

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      • sasafrass81

        6 years ago

        Sad! They couldn’t get that 53rd year, but the money adds up, good AAV for Harp. Hopefully in the next CBA they raise the luxury tax a tad5…

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        • Al Jab

          6 years ago

          Opt out after year 40

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    • Bklyn913

      6 years ago

      I heard an unknown team offered 10 years at 311 million to beat that offer…

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      • marshmallowman

        6 years ago

        i heard 311 should be investigated. where was SA Martinez on 311? i heard it stands for Space Alien Martinez.

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      • El Kabong

        6 years ago

        Yes, the New York Knicks.. Dolan wants a star.

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    • scjohn92

      6 years ago

      I heard it’s a minor league deal with, an invite to Spring Training.

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      • bobtillman

        6 years ago

        Stop the calls…we have a winner…..

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    • mlbfan1978

      6 years ago

      I read this as well. #mlbinsider on Twitter

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      • outinleftfield

        6 years ago

        It’s not @MLBInsider it was an account with the name @mlbinsider_. Its not real.

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    • Comrade Tipsy McStagger

      6 years ago

      I also heard/read on ESPN (admittedly the source was unnamed) that the Nationals had upped their initial offer.

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      • Balk

        6 years ago

        Heard the same

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  5. DarkSide830

    6 years ago

    wow, neither surprising nor really even news

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  6. arc89

    6 years ago

    Boras will wait to the very last moment for Harper gets signed. Boras will then go to the media and pretend he got the best deal at the last moment and how many teams were unwilling to negotiate with him. Same old story year after year.

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  7. Balk

    6 years ago

    Same ole same ole. Why don’t they say they really don’t know? Couple days ago, he has made up his mind, now it’s more of this crap. Hope the players do strike. They don’t deserve this garbage.

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    • debubba

      6 years ago

      This player turned down a 10 year 300 million contract to stay in Washington. Grandall turned down $20 + million over four years “to help the union”. They deserve this.

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      • Balk

        6 years ago

        You don’t know what that offer had in it, I agree that these players feel like you should throw the world at them but there’s a lot of mistreatment going on with clubs not signing players cause they aren’t in “win” now mode. Every player that’s ever played the game is always in win now mode. Don’t freeze the market to drive the cost down on these good ball players

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        • AtlSoxFan

          6 years ago

          Many players do leave it all on the field. Some dont.

          Manny being Manny. Puig dogging it, even winding up back in the minors.

          How about Machado “not going to be johnny hustle”??

          How about deGrom threatening a self imposed workload and pitch count in his remaining 2 years of control if not awarded a huge extension past his age 32 season before this year starts?

          Could go on and on. Not every player is balls to the wall in win now mode the way guys like Dustin Pedroia who trashed his body every play are.

          Personally I don’t see a freeze out, just that a team doesn’t want to give a life contract out. At 5 or 6yrs, 30 to 40 mil per both would already be signed long ago…

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  8. vinnie

    6 years ago

    Id like to have harper in my team

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    • elscorchot

      6 years ago

      Sounds kinky

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      • bobtillman

        6 years ago

        Nah, that would only be variety. Now Harper AND Machado, THAT would be kinky…….
        Not that there’s anything wrong with that….

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  9. fasbal1

    6 years ago

    The leader in these types of deals rarely land the prize

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    • scottn59c

      6 years ago

      If he goes to the Phillies, that’s exactly what the majority of baseball pundits have predicted and expected all offseason.

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  10. Francys01

    6 years ago

    Get it done Phillies. It will be fun when the Phillies play against Washington with Harper

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  11. c1234

    6 years ago

    Ok good sign then

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  12. Philliesfan4life

    6 years ago

    Hopefully this deal gets done, I think this would put them over the top of the braves and nationals, also if they sign keuchel.

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    • Miguel Jr

      6 years ago

      Someone want this to happen to increase the chances of Fish Trout staying in LA next year! LMAO

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  13. chop246

    6 years ago

    I feel no one wants to play in philly

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    • ruffintumble 2

      6 years ago

      That would be incorrect. The list of players the Phils have trotted out over the last 15 years is an impressive one.

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      • scottn59c

        6 years ago

        Correction: the players the Phillies trotted out 15 years AGO were impressive ones.

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        • ruffintumble 2

          6 years ago

          They don’t count? Thome, Lee, Halladay, Oswald, Pedro, Papelbon, Ibanez, Polanco, Howard, Utley, Rollins, Hamels, Victorino all chose to play in Philly. McCutchen, Robertson, Segura and Realmuto seem quite happy. But hey, opinions trump fact.

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        • scottn59c

          6 years ago

          The guys at the top of your list were all excellent players….many years ago. Philly has been rebuilding, and that’s been a major detractor for many free agents. The guys at the bottom of your list went there not for Philly’s club but because that was where they were offered the most lucrative contract. If Harper ends up in Philly, it will be because they paid him top dollar, and it will likely be with some unspoken reluctance because Philly has sucked for over half a decade now.

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        • terror661

          6 years ago

          Cody Ross ended an entire race of Phillies. Amazing.

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        • Pressfocus

          6 years ago

          Wherever Harper signs it will be because they paid him top dollar. Yes, Philly has been rebuilding for the past 5 years. At least they’re now built to win.

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        • Syndergaarden Cop

          6 years ago

          @ruffintumble Yeah, Lee Harvey was really fantastic .

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        • ruffintumble 2

          6 years ago

          Lol! “Lee Halladay Oswald”! I guess my phone autocorrects “Oswalt”?

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        • kzw

          6 years ago

          And AJ Burnett left millions on the table to leave and go back to Pittsburgh.

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        • ruffintumble 2

          6 years ago

          That’s the case with any team, really. Losing isn’t very enticing. The Yankees couldn’t even get the bigger free agents in the 80’s (aside from Winfield and Henderson).

          I just get bent out of shape a bit when people assume the franchise is garbage or undesirable or the city is a complete cesspool (about 25% of it is actually beautiful….). They’ve always been amongst the most loyal franchises in sports. An example of that is Halladay’s wife not wanting him to go into Cooperstown wearing a Jays cap (which he absolutely should be wearing); the Phillies have treated them so well over the years that she wants him to go in without a logo because of the respect the family has for the Phillies organization. Also, Philly may not be the best City in the country, but South Jersey is a beautiful place to live (despite high cost of living). I would guess 90% of the pro athletes that come through town live there and a fair amount of them stay after retirement or keep a home here.

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        • ruffintumble 2

          6 years ago

          Somehow they pulled it off against a far better team on paper. Kudos to the Giants.

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        • ruffintumble 2

          6 years ago

          Anecdotal evidence. No one claimed that every player was dying to play in Philly.

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        • Marc (Phillies Phan)

          6 years ago

          I have to agree – 10-15 years ago everyone wanted to play in Philly. They have to win some more to not “overpay” free agents right now. With Kapler and Klentak there right now, I don’t know if they could win without the big names – and I sometimes wonder if we had the Yankees’ roster how much Kapler and Klentak would destroy it. I don’t want Harper or Machado on my team, but it will take them to sign now, for others to want to play there. Until Middleton spends stupidly on a new GM and manager, I hold no hope.

          …And yes, Cody Ross did end the Phillies. Who’d a thunk?

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    • Polish Hammer

      6 years ago

      A hitter would want to play in that band box. Harper would fit in well in Philly, hope he does sign there.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      6 years ago

      Phillies are an extremely young team with lots of young talent, but unlike some other young teams they’re in win-now mode. It’s a pretty unique situation that gives the team a large contending window. (There are other teams in this situation of course.)

      Now at the end of the day, I think any free agents main motivator is money, but the ability to compete for multiple years is certainly appealing. The Phillies can offer both. Win win for Harper.

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      • ruffintumble 2

        6 years ago

        People somehow think the Phillies have had trouble signing and keeping players in Philly over the last 15 years. There’s absolutely nothing to suggest that Philly isn’t a premier destination for pro athletes. Let’s stop with the nonsense.

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  14. Corazon5

    6 years ago

    I’m pretty sure this is like the 10th time his market has ‘intensified’ so forgive me for not holding my breath

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    • dugdog83

      6 years ago

      Like the JT trade

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  15. James1955

    6 years ago

    Rumors are something to pass the time Rumors are wrong most of the time. “Phillies are the favorites, market has intensified.”

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  16. potter23

    6 years ago

    I’ll believe it when I see it.

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  17. megaj

    6 years ago

    Just pointing out a worthless Heyman tweet and saying something that has already been said a 1000 times gets your story posted on MLBTR? He didn’t even use any originality, even repeating the tired “shockingly” line we have seen a dozen times. Must be one of Tim’s friends.

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    • nonadhominem

      6 years ago

      I know. What’s with the “shockingly” narrative.

      These guys want 300+million.

      Anyone who is shocked that teams have been reluctant to go that high has no perspective.

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  18. gooddumps

    6 years ago

    The gavel’s out — going once, going twice…..

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  19. John Kidd

    6 years ago

    Breaking news Bryce Harper signs with Cleburne Railroaders. Team says he will hit behind Rafael Palmiero.

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  20. FishyHalo

    6 years ago

    Harper to Philly
    Machado to WhiteSocks

    Boring Winter, everyone kinda knows where this is ending. I guess the anticipation is, are we all right?

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  21. LosAngelesAngelesAngelesAngelsOfLosAngeles

    6 years ago

    I would have never guessed that Harper, Machado, Keuchel and Kimbrel would still be in the open market a week before Spring Training.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      6 years ago

      Not comparing Arrieta with those four big names, but Arrieta signed in March last year. Unfortunately, I think this is a disturbing trend in FA that will lead to a strike.

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      • LosAngelesAngelesAngelesAngelsOfLosAngeles

        6 years ago

        Can’t say I disagree.

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      • megaj

        6 years ago

        Yes, the owners should definitely strike if this continues. These tactics by agents to drive up prices has gone on long enough. Give me break with the “strike” talk. Do you have any idea the ramifications that would have? Fans are sick of it already, they will lose half their fan base if that were to happen.

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        • DadsInDaniaBeach

          6 years ago

          Fans will revolt, but the strike winds have been blowing for some time..

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          6 years ago

          I’m not saying I’m pro-strike or anything, but to the writing is on the wall. Fan revolt or no.

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  22. doxiedevil

    6 years ago

    How about 10 years, 340 million, 10% of gate, 5 % parking, 5 % concessions and 5 % ownership in the club. Sounds fair, that should sooth any ego.

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    • dugdog83

      6 years ago

      5% concessions is just ridiculous.

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      • braveshomer

        6 years ago

        lol yeah, that’s the breaking point ahaha

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      • bobtillman

        6 years ago

        The Yanks offered CC 5% of concession revenues, but he wanted 5% of the concessions instead…..

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        • AtlSoxFan

          6 years ago

          That mightve been the sox with sandoval you’re thinking of

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        • El Kabong

          6 years ago

          …with unlimited mustard and ketchup.

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  23. Cat Mando

    6 years ago

    I would still rather have Manny at 3rd to shore up the infield D, plus he is more consistent at the plate.

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    • DadsInDaniaBeach

      6 years ago

      Cat, I know I’m in the minority, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see the Phillies still in on Machado if they do in fact sign Harper.

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      • Cat Mando

        6 years ago

        Both would shock me

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  24. batty

    6 years ago

    Oh Heyman, try reporting something new.

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  25. Foreveryankees

    6 years ago

    Harper has bust written all over him!! Yankees are wise to stay away!!

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    • dugdog83

      6 years ago

      Wise or financially screwed for years cuz of Stanton?

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    • dirtydan

      6 years ago

      How so?

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    • Polish Hammer

      6 years ago

      Yeah nothing says bust and talent going awol that a kid that dropped out of high school to get his GED and get drafted a year sooner and then fly through the minors to find major league success at a very early age.

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    • Ryan W

      6 years ago

      Ahhh exclamation!!!!!!

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    • drcliffk

      6 years ago

      hitters, either for average or power, seem to suffer when they change their mailing address to Philadelphia. Don’t know why that is? So Harper does scare me but so would any hitter P’s sign.

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  26. Grizalt

    6 years ago

    End this already!

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    • Solar Flare

      6 years ago

      I agree, as do many other people. Many also feel the same about the Machado rumors and many felt the same about Realmuto and I’m sure they feel the same about Keuchel and Kimbrel rumors.

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  27. bobtillman

    6 years ago

    Nats get him on one of their deferred contracts….$1,000,000 a year for 400 years…….

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    • kodiak920

      6 years ago

      Good one!

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    • braveshomer

      6 years ago

      Bobby Bonilla would be proud

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  28. depressedtribefan

    6 years ago

    this is ridiculous… just sign already

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  29. Comrade Tipsy McStagger

    6 years ago

    I would be shocked at this point if Harper didn’t end up a Phillie and Machado didn’t end up a White Sox. Both have been subtly hinting as much over the past couple of weeks. As much as I would love for the Padres to get Machado, it seems unlikely. Both players want not only the money, but also to play with a team that has a strong national market (which means more money and, perhaps more importantly, fame). San Diego does not have that capability. I hope I am wrong about Machado and he does sign with San Diego.

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    • Philliesfan4life

      6 years ago

      Harper for philly , machado to the white sox or padres. And the yankees get burned for not getting machado.

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      • ctguy

        6 years ago

        Yankees didn’t get burned. They haven’t made an offer for the years or dollars that Macado wants. That’s hardly getting burned

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    • Comrade Tipsy McStagger

      6 years ago

      Agree 100%. I think Harper could stay a National, but I think he wants change. And Machado is more of a wild card, but keeps wearing the darn White Sox colors around.

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      • outinleftfield

        6 years ago

        Yankees colors

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        • Comrade Tipsy McStagger

          6 years ago

          I guess those could be Yankees colors, though he has worn more explicit White Sox gear than Yankee gear.

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        • ChiSoxCity

          6 years ago

          White Sox logo on baby shoes.

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    • Tazdad22

      6 years ago

      You got your wish! Congrats! Machado to San Diego, ten years for 300,000,000.

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  30. braveshomer

    6 years ago

    Phillies seem to be bidding against themselves but if they win…I bet its Phil’s, Nats, Braves, Mets then Marlins to round out the division this season

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    • christian18cutshaw

      6 years ago

      Get the hell outta here what kinda braves fan are you

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      • braveshomer

        6 years ago

        an Objective one… slightly pessimistic I’m sure but ultimately Objective. Of course I hope I’m way off, but just simply judging the off season leans that way doesn’t it?

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        • christian18cutshaw

          6 years ago

          No. It doesn’t at all

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        • petfoodfella

          6 years ago

          So, other teams added (no Harper/Machado yet) to catch the 90 win Atlanta team. Come on.

          Braves will be first or second, Wild Card at worst.

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        • braveshomer

          6 years ago

          3rd place can still get wildcard. Do you really think 90 wins will win the division again tho? We played great the first 6 weeks but played mostly .500 the rest of the season coupled with a Phills collapse, and underperforming Nats and Mets allowed us to run away with it. Obviously I hope we repeat because summer time is way better when we win. But I am the only remembering the bullpen walking everything under the sun plus a starting pitching staff that almost never past 5 inning. What have we done to improve that thus far?…we picked up a great hitter but I think the Braves are banking a tad bit too much on another season of growth when it comes to pitching

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        • christian18cutshaw

          6 years ago

          We have 3 young stars that have a higher potential that hasn’t been nearly touched than any players our rivals have added. Acuna, Albies, and Swanson. Plus we added Donaldson which could very well be a lot better than Harper. And likely will. If those three youngsters and Donaldson play to their potential the I don’t care if PHI gets Harper and Machado they still don’t stand a chance against ATL. Swanson is no name to sleep on this year. I truly believe he was breaking out last year right before he got hurt.

          Best case scenario, offensively we could be great next year if some players bloom and take the next step and others play to their potential.
          This is best case scenario in my eyes.
          Inciarte .295/.360/.400
          Donaldson .285/.380/.550
          Freeman .315/.400/.530
          Acuna .300/.360/.585
          McCann (healthy) .250/.320/.500
          Albies .285/.345/.500
          Markakis .290/.375/.420
          Swanson .305/.350/.450
          Of course this is best case scenario topping out what I think each players potential is.
          I believe we have 3 guys that can easily top 30 homers.
          4 others getting close to or topping 20
          And every one in the lineup capable of topping 30 doubles.

          I’m not worried at all about the Braves passing on that big RF bat. I will be upset though if they don’t do something to upgrade the pen though. (Kimbrel)

          With the rotation depth and offensive potential I think there is no way we finish lower than 2nd in the east behind the Nationals. But I got us taking the division and making a series push in the post season.

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        • christian18cutshaw

          6 years ago

          We have better than Harper and Machado in Acuna and Donaldson in my opinion.

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        • El Kabong

          6 years ago

          The Braves are not going to have five players with slugging percentages of .500. My guess is only Freeman, though his power numbers were down in 2018’s second half. Acuna is a great talent, but don’t be surprised if he takes a step back in his second season. There are many examples of this happening. Look at Cody Bellinger a year ago. Baseball is a difficult game to play. The road to stardom does not go in a straight line. Always expect peaks and valleys, especially with young players who have yet to master the art of plate discipline. Acuna had 123 strikeouts and just 45 walks in 2018.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      6 years ago

      I still think the Braves are the best balanced team even if the Phils get Harper. But this division is insanely competitive right now (even without Harper).

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      • Philliesfan4life

        6 years ago

        if the phillies add harper and possibly keuchel, I think that puts them over the top. While Machado will prolly sign with the white sox or padres.

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        • oldleftylong

          6 years ago

          Everyone dreams to play in SD or the South Side of Chicago.

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    • DadsInDaniaBeach

      6 years ago

      I keep seeing commenters write that..Where do you get that from..beyond stupid…
      Bravos must be worried, huh?

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      • braveshomer

        6 years ago

        Anything you’ve seen that proves otherwise? Beyond stupid how?…seriously want to know how that thought process could be wrong. Right now all we can do is judge who wins the offseason; that’s all anyone can do. Of course winning offseason doesn’t mean anything and I hope I’m wrong but nothing’s guaranteed for any team correct?

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    • ATLbravos

      6 years ago

      I fully agree with you, but I have the braves 4th. 1-3 is going to be a battle for sure. Braves fans are praying on a “IF” from Donaldson. People forget we won 90 games last year bc of a weak division. I guess they didn’t watch us get beat by every team out of it. just seen a guy say swanson is going to hit .305 lolololol. next year wont be handed to the braves like last year. And at the end of the day, how do we compare to the dodgers? I don’t care about division titles, the goal is to win a world series.

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  31. Gary White

    6 years ago

    As long as he doesn’t end up in a Cardinal uniform and weight down there options in the next 10 years I don’t care where he end up. Let’s just get to summer already.

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  32. chippahawk

    6 years ago

    Oh sick!
    Toronto called and they want their AA back..

    Enjoy the scenery of wanting a championship Philly and going for it.

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  33. RunDMC

    6 years ago

    From a Braves fan, I’d much rather see PHI sign Harper than Machado. PHI bent over backwards to get Hoskins and his (-3.6 dWAR) out of the OF, so it’d be nice to see Harper and his -3.2 dWAR stroll right back in. He’ll need to hit a lot of HR to make up for it. And it’ll be interesting to see if it makes PHI any more enticing to Trout (in 2 years).

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    • petfoodfella

      6 years ago

      I just want Harper to either be a Brave or out of the Division, or the NL all together.

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      • acmeants

        6 years ago

        No on the Braves. Not a good fit. Mark my words. Wherever he signs, Harper will suck all of the air out of the clubhouse.

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      • RunDMC

        6 years ago

        Why? They cannot seem to win a playoff series with Harper, even with one of the best rotations in MLB. Sure, they won a few divisions while ATL, PHI rebuilt and MIA, NYM remained stagnant. Now that’s changed – so let’s see how much of a threat WSH will be. Let PHI take Harper and soak up all that stupid money.

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      • chippahawk

        6 years ago

        Agreed..
        Phillys payback for taking Werth and then being stuck with his injuries at the end.
        Phillies lineup getting lit!
        Braves needed a LEGIT cleanup in the worst way, otherwise we have acuna, jdo, and freeman 123 than hope for a double from a slowwwwww cleanup hitter with Crap for pop..
        If there was time to make the Braves one scary lineup Harper was the key no doubt..

        Nevermind still not out of it I see.. Cmon AA make me a believer, make my day! Put us back out front and we will deal with the rest from here easily.

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  34. VonPurpleHayes

    6 years ago

    I prefer Harper to Machado in Philly. I’m actually a fan of Franco at 3rd and I think the offensive OF upgrade Harper is over Altherr/Williams/Quinn is a great need for Philly. Don’t get me wrong Machado is a huge upgrade over Franco, but Altherr and Williams give you absolutely nothing on offense. Franco was at time the Phillies best hitter last year; not saying much I know. Franco’s defense leaves a bit to be desired, but he wasn’t as awful as people make him out to be. I really hope the Harper rumors are true and the Phillies roll with Franco as opposed to all the Machado and Moustakas rumors. With this new improved lineup, I can see Franco’s offensive numbers really improving.

    All this being said, this is just more speculation. We know nothing. I can see Harper signing with any team.

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    • El Kabong

      6 years ago

      VonPurpleHayes, tremendous off-season by them. Acquiring Segura is the best trade anyone has made. Huge upgrade at SS.

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      • nonadhominem

        6 years ago

        The Realmuto trade was huge too.

        They “bought” one of the three best position players available this offseason.

        The cost was in one MLB player and two prospects.

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        • El Kabong

          6 years ago

          nonadhominem, Absolutely. Big improvements up the middle. I’ve always been a believer in building teams that way. They are going for it, as opposed to a team like the Mets halfway going for it. I can see the Phillies further tinkering if/when the Harper signing happens. Gonna be a real good team. Harper will affect things up and down that lineup.

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  35. Z-A 2

    6 years ago

    Cool story bro

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      6 years ago

      Thanks for that enlightening reply. Changed my worldview.

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      • Z-A 2

        6 years ago

        You be you brah.

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        • jd396

          6 years ago

          Cool schtick bro

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          6 years ago

          And you be you. Peace and love.

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    • LosAngelesAngelesAngelesAngelsOfLosAngeles

      6 years ago

      Warm Sentence Sis

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  36. nonadhominem

    6 years ago

    As a Phils fan I don’t want either if these guys along with the certain albatross of a 10 year contract.

    They already acquired one of the three best players available this offseason and have improved a lot.

    I wouldn’t offer more than 7 years for either of them.

    If I don’t get them? Ok.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      6 years ago

      I think these guys (Harper/Machado) are young enough for 10 years contracts to work.

      10 year deals are scary and often don’t work out, but A-Rod’s deal with Texas is the example I use for a successful long-term deal. I think Harper and Machado have a chance to match that, but of course there’s huge risk there. I agree.

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      • El Kabong

        6 years ago

        DH is coming to the NL soon. This will help the Phillies ride out the latter part of the 10-year deal. Dodger fan in the Philly area. I will be going to plenty of games annually if they land either guy. I might even root for them a bit for not participating in the obvious collusion.

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      • nonadhominem

        6 years ago

        I would prefer Machado to Harper anyway.

        If the Phillies give an inconsistent player like Harper 10 years then IMHO they’re playing with fire.

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        • El Kabong

          6 years ago

          Inconsistent? You will love Harper hitting in that ballpark. His best years are still to come.

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        • nonadhominem

          6 years ago

          Yes, year to year Harper has been inconsistent.

          If you look at his track record, he is EXACTLY that.

          7 years in MLB. One monster season of 10 rWAR. Of the other 6 seasons, 3 were below 4 WAR and 3 were above. But only 2 were above 5, yet the same number were below 2.

          That is NOT the track record of a consistent player.

          It’s why I prefer Machado. He may not have the upside as a hitter that Harper has, but being a very superior defender he’s going to be a better bet to add value every season.

          I am a Phillies fan, and if the Phillies give him a contract of 10/300+, they will regret it.

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        • El Kabong

          6 years ago

          He is not being paid just for what he’s done in the past, but for what he is expected to do. It comes down to talent evaluation. I totally understand your concerns. As a Dodger fan, I had similar feelings when they were linked to Harper. And I would also prefer Machado, who has never struck out more than 120 times in a season. Either player should make a huge impact over the first half of a 10-year contract. The Phillies deserve credit for getting one of them along with the other moves they’ve made. I would rather have 10 years of Harper than six years of Patrick Corbin.

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        • nonadhominem

          6 years ago

          I acknowledge your point, but, again, the inconsistency gives me pause.

          It tells me that even during the first half of the contract that you cite, he’s only likely to be worth the contract half the time.

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        • El Kabong

          6 years ago

          Or he may fully develop into the masher scouts have projected him to be. It’s a reason we watch the games. To find out. Living here in the Philly area but not a Phillies fan, I will go see them quite a bit more if they land one guy or the other. It will be nice having a top team in my backyard.

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  37. socalsoxfan78

    6 years ago

    In other news, Air is dry, and water is wet.

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    • Comrade Tipsy McStagger

      6 years ago

      Wrong. Tell that to people living in San Francisco, Seattle, Bellingham, Port Townsend, Portland, OR. Air is not dry. And water is not always wet in Minneapolis, St. Paul, Duluth, Denver, Buffalo, Chicago, Flint, and Boston, Detroit, and Burlington.

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    • dugdog83

      6 years ago

      10 people say that every post. Get some new material socal

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    • knuck2

      6 years ago

      Actually water isn’t wet at all. It makes other stuff wet.

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  38. BrewersMVP08

    6 years ago

    pretty sure these writers are just making things up now, just to put an article out there.

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  39. SupremeZeus

    6 years ago

    Fabulous kabuki theater. Boras & Hey man can really spin a yarn. Philly has been the only serious suitor since Harper rejected the Nats offer.

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  40. Norm Chouinard

    6 years ago

    This is just the latest press release from the Boras Corp which may mean anything or nothing.

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  41. chitowninwi

    6 years ago

    Don’t forget that Boras will contact the Cubs before any signing !!
    I hope not he’s overrated !

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    • BrewersMVP08

      6 years ago

      the cubs were having serious internal discussions of if they could afford middle of the road bullpen arms. their payroll is one of the tighter ones right now from all the awful contracts they’ve given out. harper is not gonna be a cub

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    • kodiak920

      6 years ago

      Oh sure. Just like he will contact Ted Lerner before any signing, and the Giants, and any other team interested.

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  42. Central Valley

    6 years ago

    It’s going to be a long year for us Giants fans. I knew Harper wouldn’t choose SF.

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    • terror661

      6 years ago

      It’s for the best. It’s all good.

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    • Balk

      6 years ago

      Thank the stars and hope he doesn’t sign with the Giants. I don’t see great things coming for Harper in our stadium. Now Trout? That’s who I would put that kind of money into!

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    • scottn59c

      6 years ago

      SF gave him a crappy short-term offer. Can’t blame him for holding out for more if he knows he can get it.

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      • terror661

        6 years ago

        What was the exact offer? Because no one knows. I heard they offered him SF property and a contract north of 7 years with lots of player options. That’s a bad short term offer? I don’t think so…

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        • scottn59c

          6 years ago

          I don’t know what they offered him; But I do know it wasn’t > 300 million/10 years.

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        • terror661

          6 years ago

          Yeah it’s not that. But 7 years is not a short term contract but compared to 12-13 years it is no doubt.

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  43. R.D.

    6 years ago

    Manfred keeps trying to adjust mlb rules and pace of play but the off-seasons he has lorded over have honestly been an embarassment. Fix the market, add a bottom cap to keep teams from completely tanking and maybe 1/3 of mlb teams won’t be rebuilding ghost lands.

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    • Cat Mando

      6 years ago

      R.D.
      A floor has been proposed multiple times beginning in the 90’s and rejected each time. A “world-wide amateur draft (all amateurs would be subject to the draft, not just those from the US, Puerto Rico and Canada)” was proposed in 2002 and rejected.
      Most of the things people propose on comment boards to “fix the game” have already been brought up and rejected. It’s very doubtful a floor will be approved by the owners without a cap, and the MLBPA won’t accept a cap

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    • batty

      6 years ago

      A floor cap really wouldn’t keep all teams from tanking. Don’t get me wrong, i believe there needs to be a floor cap. But what may well happen is, teams that go into full rebuild/tanking would likely hand out just enough 1 year contracts to older veterans on low AAV’s that they’d pay little dividends for fans to pay to see.

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      • Polish Hammer

        6 years ago

        Nothing’s like breaking camp and already knowing the majority of the teams have zero chance at the title. Then they can’t even trade their draft choices. Somehow caps and trading picks works for every other league but MLB always has catered to the big boys so we’ll continue to have the haves and have nots…

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    • Vedder80

      6 years ago

      He can’t add a floor without opening the collective bargaining agreement to change, which the owners would never let happen. If a salary floor comes, it comes under the next collective bargaining agreement and no sooner.

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    • James1955

      6 years ago

      RD. There are not very many good athletes. You have a few good teams and a lot of bad teams. The CBT is a salary cap. You probably want other teams to have a cap and you want your team to go over the cap, With the salary floor, do you want to see washed vets on 1 year contracts, while a team is rebuilding. If you don’t like sports, don’t follow sports.

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  44. Comrade Tipsy McStagger

    6 years ago

    While I have no affinity for Boras, he is simply matching the strategy of the oligarchic owners to get top market value for his client.

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  45. VegasSDfan

    6 years ago

    I will call the Dodgers at 8/300 with two option years for the Dodgers. Harper cant opt out after the 3rd year.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      6 years ago

      Keep making that call and you will always go to voicemail. Anybody who takes more than a superficial look at the Dodgers knows they were never seriously interested in Harper.

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  46. mike156

    6 years ago

    Heyman saying a Boras client’s market has “intensified” leaves me with chills of anticipation.
    I really doubt the Yankees are seriously in on either Harper or Machado. But we will see. I like Phillies for Harper and Machado for White Sox. Good for both teams, good for both team’s fans.

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  47. PiratesFan1981

    6 years ago

    And the Pittsburgh Pirates swoop in to make a blockbuster for Harper!

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    • BrewersMVP08

      6 years ago

      then the edibles wore off

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  48. gmenfan

    6 years ago

    Interest in this saga has “deintensified.”

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  49. Pressfocus

    6 years ago

    Wherever Harper signs it will be because they paid him top dollar. Yes, Philly has been rebuilding for the past 5 years. At least they’re now built to win.

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  50. HubcapDiamondStarHalo

    6 years ago

    If Harper signs with Philly tomorrow, I’d get the team AND the date right in the pool I entered with a bunch of baseball pals!! For ONE DAY, I could be a Phillies fan…

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  51. kodiak920

    6 years ago

    Yawn…

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  52. terror661

    6 years ago

    And we are all acting like we didn’t know this would eventually happen… There was no market for Harper long term but a few teams so he played the Phillies for more dough and it worked. How much more dough? We will find out soon but, idk how anyone can act surprised. It will be fun watching Phillies fans go crazy when he has a bad few months. They treat their struggling players really well. And we all know Bryce is soft. Ask the Nationals manager who just was quoted saying he is happy he is gone because he, “dances to the beat of his own drum and was never a leader in the clubhouse….” Sounds like the same things all of his other managers who were fired said. It’s not a huge loss for any team who missed out and it’s not a huge WS winning gain for the Phillies. It’s just Scott Boras being a worm like he’s always been. Lol

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  53. radhippo

    6 years ago

    Angels 7years 220mil …..it’s over folks!!

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    • Vedder80

      6 years ago

      If that’s all he signs for it won’t be in Anaheim. Plenty of teams who are consistently in the playoffs can match or beat that and would be happy to do so.

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      • ctguy

        6 years ago

        Agreed. The Angels won’t make the post season again this year.

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  54. 68tigers84

    6 years ago

    He walks too much, gets his bat taken out of his hands. Just look at his total base numbers, only had one season over 300tb. Just my opinion(which probably isn’t worth much).

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    • HubcapDiamondStarHalo

      6 years ago

      You DO realize that the ability to walk often is considered a valuable skill, right? It gets you on base and is better than an out, in case you didn’t know…

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      • 68tigers84

        6 years ago

        Just saying that the walks limit his damage ability. Example: last two seasons(Harper, 125 xbh, 523 tb), (Nick Castellanos, 146 xbh, 611 tb).

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    • Solar Flare

      6 years ago

      And there is a very good reason why he gets walked a lot, because he is extremely dangerous and pitchers hate pitching to guys like that.

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      • Comrade Tipsy McStagger

        6 years ago

        Yes the walk is valuable, but 68tigers has an important point, one that has been noted by GMs and various sportswriters — Harper walks too much. Because of prolonged slumps throughout his career, Harper is more comfortable working the walk rather than swinging the bat. And pitchers, going off his reputation of being a still dangerous hitter, still show enough respect to allow that to happen. So really, you are both correct.

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  55. VegasSDfan

    6 years ago

    He is not going to the Phillies..

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  56. MetsFanaticDanny

    6 years ago

    It’s already been reported by several people that the contract is going to be 10 yrs & $310 million. Not bad.

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  57. Oxford Karma

    6 years ago

    Phillies should move on and sign Keuschel.

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    • jdrushton

      6 years ago

      They’ll sign Kuechel after signing Harper.

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  58. Goose

    6 years ago

    Harper is a good fit in Philly. He and Hoskins could combine for 70+ home runs without too much trouble.

    With the exception of McCann and Elsbury the Yankees have not spent any big bucks on any free agent since George died. The Stanton deal was perceived value and filling salary that came off the books. If the Yankees signed any position player at this point it might be Machado and let him play SS. Tulo is a stop gap at this moment and I doubt he can stay healthy.

    My bet the Yankees will lose some payroll this season and prep an all in for Trout. He would upgrade their OF with Judge and Stanton being slow moving T-Rexs out there.

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    • Vedder80

      6 years ago

      Trout is unlikely to ever leave the Angels. Moreno can afford him, and won’t want to be known as the owner who let a once in generation player walk. The only way Trout doesn’t stay in Anaheim is if he takes less money because he really wants out.

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      • Philliesfan4life

        6 years ago

        If trout does leave the angels, he’s gonna head home to the phillies

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      • Goose

        6 years ago

        @Vedder80 the Angels are in rebuild mode and the Yankees are in competition, plus all the endorsement money out of New York. Currently his agent is Chris Landis, who I don’t know a lot about. It is a question of does he want to get every dollar possible and will the union sway him because he is the biggest star right now.

        If I had to bet on Vegas 60% chance the Yankees, 30% the Angels and 10% anyone else.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      6 years ago

      The Yankees will be spending big money to extend the contracts on their already talented roster.

      Also not spending on free agents? Happ, Britton. Ottavino. LeMahieu.

      Not sure what you’re talking about. I guess the narrative is that the Yankees should sign every free agent ever even when they don’t need to.

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      • Goose

        6 years ago

        @VonPurpleHayes I said big bucks. Are you seriously putting Happ, Britton, Ottavino and LeMahieu in the same conversation as Machado or Harper?

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        • El Kabong

          6 years ago

          It’s a matter of philosophy. The Yankees signed those four players for less than it would take to sign Harper and Machado. They are projected to win about 100 games. You can’t have everyone.

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    • kodiak920

      6 years ago

      I agree with you. If George was alive, he would have probably signed at least one of Harper or Machado, and almost assuredly Corbin.

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  59. Vedder80

    6 years ago

    They can’t be that far in the lead or he would have signed already.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      6 years ago

      Could be starting a fake bidding war to up some teams’ ante. Harper has no reason to rush.

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      • Vedder80

        6 years ago

        He had no reason to rush. Once February began he had every reason to rush.

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  60. Central Valley

    6 years ago

    Atleast the Giants will have a new scoreboard this year. Looking forward to seeing their out of shape, often injured players with no power, on that new scoreboard. Hopefully Zaidi finds a few gems . I trust Zaidi ….

    I don’t blame Harper.

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    • 22Leo

      6 years ago

      Giants fans will be calling for Zaidi’s head before the end of the season

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      • terror661

        6 years ago

        He hasn’t done anything bad so far.

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  61. 54scooterb

    6 years ago

    Still think Theo gets the go ahead.

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    • lefty58

      6 years ago

      Why?

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  62. Potpot106

    6 years ago

    Please just end the suffering

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  63. citizen

    6 years ago

    Judging by the stats of phillies of, looks more like developing players who regressed last year. Signing Harper is no guantee the rest of the Of will fall into line or Harper will put up MVP season year in and year out of a 10 year contract, And an expensive one. Even Harper regressed last year. Mccuthen seems more like the veteran option this team already has, but if philly wants to sell Harper jerseys and marketing, probably a better fit.

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  64. drcliffk

    6 years ago

    Phils fan as long as I can remember now at 80+ & it ain’t so until it’s really so. But this novella is nothing like what I go through with my favorite EnglishPremier League football team Tottenham Hotspurs. Team is 9th richest soccer club in world but owners are greedy billionaires. All during the open transfer (trading/player signing) season in the summer & month of Jan.tweets about who the Spurs were going to sign. Some real world talent. They’ve now set a Premier league record of NOT having signed a player for more than a year. You don’t know how pissed a collection of fans can be as Tottenham’s especially because team is doing very well, 3rd in league & in final 16 of European elite competition,, the Championship league. At least, finally, Phils are signing some talent & seem to be serious about one of the remaining big fish. Just think if they had been challenging in the division, kept promising to add yet never did, how up in arms we’d be?

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    • Al Jab

      6 years ago

      Totenham is too busy with their overdue new stadium

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      • drcliffk

        6 years ago

        second guy I’ve found who knows something/and is follower of Philly sports & Tottenham. Whats wrong with us?

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        • nonadhominem

          6 years ago

          That’s easy. You must be mentally deficient or emotionally unstable, as no rational person would do Philly and Tottenham.

          Of course, I’m a Fulham and Phillies fan so I know whereof I speak.

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        • drcliffk

          6 years ago

          we are both suffering but you more so for it looks like Fulham’s going down. But I do love their grounds at Craven Cottage. That’s the way I picture ENglish soccer parks to look and not like the space ship that’ll be new home to Spurs.Good thing there is no relegation in MLB for the Phils might have dropped out the leagues all together during their many horrendous spells.

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        • nonadhominem

          6 years ago

          Yes, the 30 year stretch from 1919 – 1948 was no a good one for the Phillies. They would have been relegated down more than one league.

          Reply
  65. b-rar

    6 years ago

    “Bryce Harper” has the same number of letters as “Jayson Werth”. Just something to think about.

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    • 22Leo

      6 years ago

      No, that is nothing to think about.

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  66. Strike Four

    6 years ago

    Werth was 32 when he signed with the Nats, Harper will be 27. Harper also has a MVP. Something to think about.

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  67. Strike Four

    6 years ago

    I’m guessing they will get Machado too, what was the name they were calling the money they had to spend around this year? Stupid money? Yeah, they might not have been lying.

    Segura-Harper-Machado-Hoskins-Realmuto-McCutchen-Hernandez-Herrera is going to be insane.

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  68. lefty58

    6 years ago

    Philly or the Nats for Harper, loser gets Manny.

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    • Gambit1193

      6 years ago

      Nats won’t make the slightest attempt at Machado

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  69. Bluemarlin528

    6 years ago

    If they are smart they wait for Trout…

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    • proof2006

      6 years ago

      They’ll be waiting forever. 0 chance trout hits free agency.

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  70. franksouze

    6 years ago

    prong these two gonads – im tired of this protracted drama .

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  71. shane

    6 years ago

    If he signs with the Phillies for a reported $10 million more than what the Nats offered that’s a pretty big slap in the face. I realize that the Nats offer may now be off the table, but damn. Dude coulda been a legend in Washington.

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  72. neverbunt

    6 years ago

    Oh so Phillies are in the lead for Harper and he wants a long term deal? This is breaking news we totally didn’t know months ago

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  73. chesteraarthur

    6 years ago

    Obvious mouth piece is obvious.

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  74. Bryzzo2016

    6 years ago

    I really thought Bryce would sign w/ the Dodgers and the Phils or Yanks would sign Machado. That said, I can’t fault the LAD for not committing to 10 years. Those contracts become burdens. I actually applaud LA for not being desperate in spite of their fanbase being anxious to get over the hump. From a business perspective, Harper presents much more value to a team like the Phillies that don’t currently have a legit superstar to help market their product, as opposed to teams like the Dodgers, Yankees, Cubs, etc… that are stacked with star players.

    In spite of a potentially bad contract, I can actually see the Phils getting a nice ROI from this signing, business wise.

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    • 22Leo

      6 years ago

      The Dodgers were obviously never really interested in Harper.

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      • Bryzzo2016

        6 years ago

        I thought they were, especially after the deal they made with Cincy. But, yeah, at 10 years, 300 mil +, it’s not a smart deal.

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        • terror661

          6 years ago

          I love this logic… Dodgers have 6 lefties that hit for 9 billion home runs already… “Let’s pay 40 million annually for one more, that will get us over the hump.” I really wished the Dodgers had.

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        • 22Leo

          6 years ago

          The only way Friedman would sign anyone to a contract like that is if Kasten ordered him to do so. They really don’t need another left-handed bat though. I think that whichever team signs either Harper or Machado is going to regret it anyway.

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    • Aaron Sapoznik

      6 years ago

      Some good points although I still feel that the Dodgers dropped the ball in regards to Harper. The same argument with the Phillies could also be made in the case of the White Sox for signing one of Harper or Machado although that would surely cause some pain for a Cubs fan like yourself.

      Btw-I had Harper going to the Cubs before they picked up Cole Hamels option and then the Dodgers after that fact. I also had the Yankees inking Machado. If the White Sox strike out on both FA’s, especially if they lose out to the Padres with the latter, they will never hear the end of it from their fans. That being said, I still maintain that JR and the FO will finally net a big fish in the coming days.

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    • El Kabong

      6 years ago

      I’m a Dodger fan who is happy with the current front office philosophy. A World Series title would be great, but this team is being built to contend on an annual basis. Plus, I don’t feel back-to-back World Series appearances represent bad years. If the 162-game season has taught me anything, it’s patience. I don’t live and die with every single pitch. Different kind of fan, I guess. There are people who think the slumping player should be benched forever. But if you’ve followed the game for a length of time, you know that player will eventually come around. I like Friedman and Roberts as a front office/field manager combo. Great time to be a Dodger fan.

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  75. Jimcarlo Slaton

    6 years ago

    Rumor is all media outlets have colluded to eff with the minds of baseball fans.

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    • Bryzzo2016

      6 years ago

      Haha, yep!

      Reply
  76. Jimcarlo Slaton

    6 years ago

    THE KINKS

    “TIRED OF WAITING FOR YOU”

    I’m so tired
    Tired of waiting
    Tired of waiting for you

    I’m so tired
    Tired of waiting
    Tired of waiting for you

    I was a lonely soul
    I had nobody till I met you
    But you keep-a me waiting
    All of the time
    What can I do?

    It’s your life
    And you can do what you want
    Do what you like
    But please don’t keep-a me waiting
    Please don’t keep-a me waiting

    ‘Cause I’m so tired
    Tired of waiting
    Tired of waiting for you

    So tired
    Tired of waiting
    Tired of waiting for you

    I was a lonely soul
    I had nobody till I met you
    But you keep-a me waiting
    All of the time
    What can I do?

    It’s your life
    And you can do what you want
    Do what you like
    But please don’t keep-a me waiting
    Please don’t keep-a me waiting

    ‘Cause I’m so tired
    Tired of waiting
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    So tired
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    For you
    For you

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    • geejohnny

      6 years ago

      Thanks for the effort….appreciate that. Now if Machado would’ve had the same effort in last yrs WS…….he may have been signed by now.

      Reply
    • retire21

      6 years ago

      Thanks Ray!

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    • impactrookies

      6 years ago

      That was great, I still downvoted you but that was epic! Definitely a downvote though.

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  77. tarheelfan

    6 years ago

    Phillies Sales staff have been called into work tomorrow on a day off. Look for an announcement Monday morning for Harper to Philly…

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    • Jimcarlo Slaton

      6 years ago

      I believe you at least as much as Heyman, Bowden and Nightengale combined.

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  78. Rickeo02

    6 years ago

    Snore

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  79. James1955

    6 years ago

    It’s June. Harper unsigned. Phillies the favorites to sign him. 🙂

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  80. KF

    6 years ago

    Brevity and Clarity 101:

    “Both the Giants and Padres have since joined the race for Harper, who, as of two weeks ago, had drawn interest from “at least” eight teams, Heyman reported.”

    Could be:

    “Per Heyman, Harper had drawn interest from “at least” eight teams as of two weeks ago, joined since by the Padres and Giants.”

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  81. geejohnny

    6 years ago

    I can see it now…….Machado, unable to beat the value of Harper’s contract will begin an extended sulk into spring training ultimately taking a one yr contract and doing it all over again next yr.

    Reply
  82. bravesfan

    6 years ago

    Braves sitting back doing nothing to that brutal bullpen while Mets and Phillies buy better teams… scary

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    • Bryzzo2016

      6 years ago

      Yeah, the Braves offseason is puzzling. It seemed like their window is starting to open, I assumed they would spend this offseason and go to the next level.

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      • petfoodfella

        6 years ago

        Spend on what? There are no real holes

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        • proof2006

          6 years ago

          There must be some holes they won one game in the playoffs.

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        • chippahawk

          6 years ago

          No cleanup hitter and no true ace but yea, who wouldn’t be scared of that..

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        • El Kabong

          6 years ago

          Yes, but some players get better from one year to the next. There was no real reason for teams like the Braves and Dodgers to go on wild spending sprees. Just let their young players continue to develop.

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  83. Gwynning's Anal Lover

    6 years ago

    Silly talk

    Reply
  84. Gwynning's Anal Lover

    6 years ago

    The owners can build a significant wall across the border of Mexico if they didn’t sign Harper or Machado.

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    • El Kabong

      6 years ago

      The wall is a moronic idea regardless of where the money would come from.

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      • chesteraarthur

        6 years ago

        I agree, we need an electric fence.

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        • El Kabong

          6 years ago

          Afraid of brown-skinned people, are you?

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        • megaj

          6 years ago

          Has nothing to do with race or color genius. Educate yourself about borders and why countries need them before saying something stupid.

          Reply
  85. VegasSDfan

    6 years ago

    Least likely teams to sign Harper, Orioles and Marlins

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    • Begamin

      6 years ago

      Dallas Cowboys

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  86. Michael Chaney

    6 years ago

    His contract will become the worst in the sport as soon as the ink dries

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    • Robertowannabe

      6 years ago

      That long?? I say as he is signing it!

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  87. jimmertee

    6 years ago

    Who cares.
    When one of them signs, I’ll care. Until then it is a waste of focus and typing.

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    • Krampus

      6 years ago

      You just typed about this. Not caring, is not responding to the thread.

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    • James1955

      6 years ago

      jimmertee. Practice what you preach. Not caring is not reading the articles and not posting.

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  88. dixoncayne

    6 years ago

    Please end it!

    Reply
  89. impactrookies

    6 years ago

    Unsubstantiated contract offer. Rest of career for majority ownership of the Lansing Lugnuts and the New Hampshire Fisher Cats! Who did I sign with??

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  90. mike156

    6 years ago

    Evolving, maturing, intensifying, ripening, culturing, simmering over a slow fire, flame-broiled, smoked, brined….Heyman has a gift.

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  91. BrewersMVP08

    6 years ago

    “market is still evolving”? lmao really? you mean 2 teams interested?

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  92. El Kabong

    6 years ago

    Fans are funny. They complain when their team doesn’t spend money to get good players, then also complain when they do spend the money.

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    • James1955

      6 years ago

      Jimssouls. Not all fans. Complainers complain. Excessive complaints. Disagreeable, unpleasant person.

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  93. jonesadoug

    6 years ago

    Nobody wants that bum Manny. Costs too much wont hustle and plays dirty. Harper seems to get hurt a lot. Hes overrated also. Better off saving that 300 million.

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  94. bobtillman

    6 years ago

    And not a mention on the site about Refsnyder being invited to D-Backs camp (they needed somebody to wash the supporters).

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  95. whyhayzee

    6 years ago

    Why is it $30MM? Is it 30 million million? Why not $30M? I’m confused by the need for the two M’s.

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    • nonadhominem

      6 years ago

      Learn your Roman numerals.

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      • proof2006

        6 years ago

        MM is 2000 in Roman numerals…

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        • Sky14

          6 years ago

          Thousand, thousand or million.

          Reply
        • proof2006

          6 years ago

          Like I said below. That isn’t how Roman numerals work. Roman numerals use addition not multiplication

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    • 22Leo

      6 years ago

      30 million monies for the people person.

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    • whyhayzee

      6 years ago

      I know its 1,000 1,000s. It just seems really pointless.

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    • proof2006

      6 years ago

      It’s uses the Roman numerals M for 1000 except instead of adding like you are supposed to with them they multiply. It’s an accounting thing

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  96. Thronson5

    6 years ago

    Lol this if funny.

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  97. 68tigers84

    6 years ago

    I thought it was some kind of coated candy.

    Reply
  98. yamsi1912

    6 years ago

    Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is gonna be running 3 Honda Civic’s with spoon engines. On top of that he just came into Harry’s and ordered 3 t66 turbo’s with NOS’s and a Motec System Exhaust.

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  99. Coast1

    6 years ago

    Harper to Lakers confirmed. LeBron wanted him as a teammate and got him.

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  100. hopper15

    6 years ago

    Today was a just a reminder why I stopped following Heyman on Twitter.

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  101. Jnkns1

    6 years ago

    I think it would be great if nobody signed either one of them.

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  102. jorge78

    6 years ago

    Time for Boras to “inflate” the market via his media sources!
    Gentlemen, hide your daughters!

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  103. zachgwest

    6 years ago

    I don’t know how more fair negotiations can be for a player. Auction them off on live tv like the draft!!!!!!!!!!!

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  104. martyvan90

    6 years ago

    I think this headline means “Boras still willing to take more Money”.

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  105. 68tigers84

    6 years ago

    Let’s see, 10 years(300 million). Figure 2000 hits over that period, equals $150,000 per hit.

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  106. ThatBallwasBryzzoed

    6 years ago

    Just sign already to get your stupid money

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  107. Cat Mando

    6 years ago

    “Though few mention it, subtracting Harper, while it will cost 34 homers, a .899 career OPS and some amazing hair flips, would help any team improve its attention to fundamentals. When the most famous player on the team can’t go 10 days without failing to run out a groundball or overthrowing a cutoff man by 15 feet or throwing to the wrong base or being caught unprepared in the outfield or on the bases, it’s hard to demand total alertness from the other 24.”

    ‘“Write it,” one prominent Nats vet said.”
    washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/how-can-the-na…
    I would rather have Manny

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  108. tfranco

    6 years ago

    Harper actually concerns me more than Machado. People will point to Harper’s success at a young age, but it isn’t unprecedented. Harper is 26, so I looked at his stats for his last three years leading up to FA. I compared Harper’s age 23-25 seasons to all other OFs since 1960 in their age 23-25 seasons. Per FanGraphs.

    Player 1: .262/.340/.493 with 91 HRs, .231 ISO, 121 wRC+, .355 wOBA, 10.5 WAR (3.5/yr)
    Player 2: .267/.391/.505 with 87 HRs, .238 ISO, 132 wRC+, .375 wOBA, 11.2 WAR (3.7/yr)
    Player 3: .246/.379/.532 with 113 HRs, .286 ISO, 132 wRC+, .385 wOBA, 10.2 WAR (3.4/yr)
    Player 4: .279/.380/.499 with 85 HRs, .221 ISO, 131 wRC+, .378 wOBA, 21.6 WAR (7.2/yr)
    Player 5: .286/.370/.516 with 85 HRs, .231 ISO, 138 wRC+, .386 wOBA, 7.2 WAR (2.4/yr)

    Which one on this list is Harper, and which ones are Adam Dunn, Jay Bruce, Danny Tartabull, and Grady Sizemore? Actually, they are easy to pick out but the point is these are examples of why there is concern about Harper.

    Player 1 is Jay Bruce. He averaged 1.0 WAR for ages 26-32.
    Player 2 is Bryce Harper.
    Player 3 is Adam Dunn, who averaged 1.2 WAR from 26-32.
    Player 4 is Grady Sizemore. He averaged 1.4 WAR from 26-32.
    Player 5 is Danny Tartabull. He averaged 2.0 WAR from 26-32.

    Of the 40 OFs that played at least 400 games during 23-25 seasons and averaged 3-5 WAR/yr during that period, (34) saw a decline in their production. So those banking on Harper being more the 2015 version (10.0 WAR) vs the 2014 (1.1), 2016 (1.5), 2017 (4.7), 2018 (1.3) version will likely be disappointed.

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    • nonadhominem

      6 years ago

      tfranco, excellent post. The idiots who think Harper is worth 10/300+ are ignoring not only comps, but they’re ignoring Harper’s own track record.

      They think whoever signs him is signing a perennial MVP candidate. He had one monster year, but 4 of his 7 years he’s produced under 4 WAR.

      That’s not the performance of a perennial MVP candidate.

      Give me Manny. Let Bryce go somewhere else.

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      • Cat Mando

        6 years ago

        nonadhominem…..give me Manny anyday as well. He is much more consistent and his splits are almost indentical. The Phillies infield D was pretty bad (I’m being kind) last year. Granted, some of it was Kapler’s terrible shifts as chronicled by Bill James Online here…. link to billjamesonline.com . If Kapler removes his head from his backside and becomes an MLB manager the addition of Segura and adding Manny would be amazing.

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        • nonadhominem

          6 years ago

          Exactly.

          Manny has had more seasons above 5 rWAR than Harper, and less below 2 rWAR.

          He’s also had more seasons above 5 fWAR (4) than Harper (2).

          He’s been a much more consistent player. Harper had one monster year. There are also questions as to whether the shift is going to hurt him a lot (Ryan Howard says “hello”).

          If the Phillies are going to spend 300MM, please let it be on Manny.

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  109. Bertin Lefkovic

    6 years ago

    I predict that Harper gets 10/320 from the Phillies with opt-outs after years 3 and 7, and team options for each of the years 11 through 15 at $16MM per year with a $6MM buyout at any time that the team decides to decline the option, guaranteeing Harper $326MM and the largest contract in MLB history, and potentially reaching $400MM over 15 years if played out to the end. Those numbers should be sufficient to satisfy Harper’s enormous ego.

    Once Harper signs with the Phillies, Machado is going to be SOL. If he truly doesn’t want to play on the West Coast, he is going to have to take whatever the White Sox are willing to give him or hope that the Phillies have another big contract left in them. I would not be shocked if they found a way to not only sign Machado, but Keuchel and Kimbrel as well. If they do, they will most certainly become my favorite National League team.

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  110. billysbballz

    6 years ago

    Wait for it, as soon as Phillies sign Harper at 10/325 at least 25% of bitter anti Hal Yankee fans will be crying poverty and demanding answers! The truth is if Harper gets that contract I have to admit that trading for Stanton last season may have been the right decision. Stanton owed approx 265 mill through 2028 (9 full seasons including this coming season) with an opt out after next season so to me even though Stanton truly clogs up this lineup as he really belongs in RF the Yanks did ok compared to what Harper is allegedly going to receive within near future. Too bad Stanton is not a left handed bat but we all seen what happens to left handed bats more then righty bats with this shift.

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    • Begamin

      6 years ago

      As a Yankees fan I’ll be jumping in joy when Harper/Machado sign elsewhere. You on the other hand already sound salty about the Yankees and they arent even gonna sign Harper

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      • dust44

        6 years ago

        I’ve been on record saying I absolutely didn’t want Machado. And that I wanted Harper on the Yanks. Payroll wise with all the young guys needing to get paid Harper is a luxury that they really don’t need. But would still b nice to add that premium power lefty. I won’t per say b jumping for joy as much as I will b ok with not spending now to extend the young guys in the next year or two.

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        • drcliffk

          6 years ago

          Ps outfield pretty feeble. Not much power & usually (Machado was an exception) along with 1B that’s where you usually rely on run production. Harper would, on paper, really change that outlook.

          Reply
      • billysbballz

        6 years ago

        What are you talking about? Where in my comment did I seem upset about yanks missing out on Harper? Where? Where? Please explain your idiotic reply.

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  111. myaccount

    6 years ago

    And idiots really didn’t think he could beat the Nats initial offer.

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  112. Shuda22

    6 years ago

    Sick of hearing about this tool

    Reply
  113. washington_bonercats

    6 years ago

    Someone is going to end up overpaying for Harper by about 50 million. Boras bought the magnums this year

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  114. User 3617846742

    6 years ago

    Steinbrenner is not going after Harper. As he already signed his outfield free agent Brett “No Hit, No Throw, and No Bunt” Gardner. Rumors are now true Hal is Cheap!

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  115. dust44

    6 years ago

    At this point I really do think the Yankees r a player in this. And I hope they do sign him and can trade Frazier for another starting pitcher. The 3 holes on the team r LF, 1B and the long reliever/spot starter. Gardner isn’t hateful but I’d like an upgrade. Voit and Bird r competing for 1B but neither is super inspiring. And who’s ur spot starter/long reliever? Chance Adams? Losiagna? Another young guy? Maybe packaging Frazier and Kahnle for a vet or a up and coming starter who can fill that 6th starter/LR role.

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    • billysbballz

      6 years ago

      Why would we deal Frazier. Gardner is gone after season. Hicks maybe gone. Elsbury is a non factor. Flores maybe over rated at this time. We have zero outfield depth.

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  116. billysbballz

    6 years ago

    Here my Yankee wish list trade:
    Stanton to LAD after waiting no trade. Elsbury to San Fran after waiving no trade. LAD send 2 prospects to San Fran. Yanks got rid of 44 mill and back under cap. Yanks sign Harper at 10/325 for annual avg of 32.5 with numerous opt outs.
    Now no more clogged up DH spot and Harper can play all 3 outfield positions and maybe some first while giving you similar offense of Stanton and a much needed left handed bat.

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    • nyy42

      6 years ago

      Have your dad explain to you why this will never happen!

      Reply
  117. ullnvrknw

    6 years ago

    Starting to look like a 1 year 35 million deal to the Yankees is coming

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