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Giants Designate Derek Holland, Ryder Jones

By Connor Byrne and George Miller | July 21, 2019 at 12:35pm CDT

The Giants have designated left-hander Derek Holland for assignment, Alex Pavlovic of NBC Sports Bay Area reports. In addition, Henry Schulman of the San Francisco Chronicle tweets that Ryder Jones has also been designated for assignment, clearing a second spot on the Giants’ 40-man roster.

Holland, formerly with the Rangers and White Sox, joined the Giants entering 2018 on a minor league contract. He was coming off multiple rough seasons at the time, but Holland made his way to San Francisco last year and enjoyed a career renaissance. Holland’s output a year ago was enough to convince new president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi to make the 32-year-old his most expensive free-agent signing in a modest winter for the club.

The Giants inked Holland to a one-year, $7MM guarantee with a matching club option for 2020. They’re now likely have to eat the approximately $2.67MM remaining on Holland’s deal, as it’s difficult to believe a team would take on him and his money in light of the subpar production he has put up this season.

Holland got off to such a poor start out of the Giants’ rotation this season that they shifted him to their bullpen. Neither job has worked out that well in 2019 for Holland, though. Across 68 2/3 innings, Holland has pitched to a 5.90 ERA/6.08 FIP with 9.31 K/9, 4.59 BB/9 and a 41.4 percent groundball rate. Home runs helped lead to the death of Holland’s Giants tenure, as he yielded them on 23 percent of fly balls this year en route to his designation. He did, however, stymie same-handed hitters, who batted .182/.276/.195 against him. With that in mind, perhaps a team will take a chance on Holland as a LOOGY. Regardless, his next deal will likely be of the minor league variety.

Jones, meanwhile, has largely failed to live up to expectations after the Giants made him a second-round draft selection in 2013. With just four home runs and a .133 ISO in his Major League career, he has yet to show the power that is necessary for a lumbering corner infielder. Jones’s struggles this season—the first under Zaidi—may have sealed his fate; the 25-year-old has managed just a .529 OPS across several levels of the minor leagues, though injuries have limited his availability, having appeared in just 12 games. Jones could be an intriguing case for teams eyeing the waiver wire, given his draft history, age, and raw power.

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  1. gmenfan

    2 years ago

    Finally !

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    • claude raymond

      2 years ago

      Check his numbers versus lefties. Javy Lopez lefty specialist like

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  2. giantsfan57

    2 years ago

    Not that surprised by this… except that Pomeranz is still on the roster.

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    • Ronin6

      2 years ago

      Pommy is next, house cleaning has started

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      • jpm9q3

        2 years ago

        Pomeranian could be traded for a “prospect”. He’s dirt cheap and left-handed.

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        • GareBear

          2 years ago

          Yeah, I’ve heard cash considerations has raised his stock this year. Maybe that would net him

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        • lowtalker1

          2 years ago

          Like a number 30 rated prospect in the Os or marlins system ?

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        • justin33broja

          2 years ago

          Why do you say O’s or Marlins? Cause they’re bad teams? They both have solid farm systems. Go bully on the Red Sox or Cubs farm systems they’re terrible.

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        • antibelt

          2 years ago

          Touchy touchy lol. No, because they can give immediate playing time to see what they have.

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        • mstrchef13

          2 years ago

          As an Orioles fan, I’m here to tell you that the O’s do NOT have a solid farm system. It’s getting better, but it’s very bottom heavy. There are exactly four players at AAA who would be considered prospects, two of which have health issues and one who doesn’t have a position. I’m excited about AA and below, but those guys are two or more years away.

          I’d be happy to take on Holland for the rest of the year as an arm, considering that we still have Dan freaking Straily at AAA waiting for another chance, but I’m not giving up anything (literally, anything) for him.

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  3. SashaBanksFan

    2 years ago

    Next to Angels

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  4. Pickle_Britches

    2 years ago

    Sweet baby Jesus!!

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  5. arc89

    2 years ago

    Knuckle head Holland pitches left handed so he will find a job somewhere.

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  6. davengmusic

    2 years ago

    If the moon was made of ribs, would you eat it?

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    • connfyoozed

      2 years ago

      “I know I would!”

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  7. Giantsfan775

    2 years ago

    Can Pomeranz be next please?

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    • Ronin6

      2 years ago

      The House Cleaning has started

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  8. baseball10

    2 years ago

    If the Giants want to compete they will need to get creative. Cardinals looking to dump Wacha’s salary i think he would be a good fit

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    • Ronin6

      2 years ago

      No more washed up Veterans, better to take a chance with under achieving prospects or prospects locked out by veterans on the big club.

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    • jpm9q3

      2 years ago

      wacha sucks. hard pass.

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    • Xavier Blaine

      2 years ago

      Giants have been good because of their pitching. Why would they use their limited money on a washed up SP? I think they’ll trade from their pitching to acquire hitting, something like Will Smith for Clint Frazier or along those lines.

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      • dandan

        2 years ago

        Assuming in your theoretical situation the Giants are trying to compete… how would trading their all-star closer help them do that? Not to mention the Yankees probably balking at that offer in the first place.

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        • Balk

          2 years ago

          Reyes Morantas is a perfect example on how we would still compete without Smith. I do agree with the fact that the Giants and Yankees won’t be a match for a trade this year. We can pry better talent out of a team that has a bigger need for Smith then the Yanks.

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        • 22jclark

          2 years ago

          Moronta is wildly inconsistent. He has electric stuff but he needs to command it better and drop a few lbs. I think he could be a closer but he needs to tighten things up. He’s young, throws hard and fits their future. Hopefully, they don’t move him

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        • Gobbysteiner

          2 years ago

          Their future closer ain’t moronta, it’s Melvin adon. 104 MPH fastball and devastating breaking stuff. Just needs to work on his command

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        • Balk

          2 years ago

          Nobody said he was there future, what I said is that if we move Smith he would probably take that responsibility. Aron is probably the future but Moronta could and probably will hold down the fort

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        • Pickle_Britches

          2 years ago

          I agree. If he shed some weight and got in shape I think it would help him.

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      • tad2b13

        2 years ago

        Two things: Did you mean unlimited money? Because of all their problems, money is not one of them. The other thing is they are not trading Will Smith for Clint Frazier. Frazier isn’t the type of guy that the Giants like. I’m sure they’ve set their sights on a better return for Smith than Clint Frazier.

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  9. TroyVan

    2 years ago

    Tigers could use him on a prorated league minimum salary.

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    • TigerFanFromIndiana

      2 years ago

      I was thinking the same thing, he would actually be an upgrade over the Zimmerman, Carpenter and Soto trio they have been marching out there

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      • TroyVan

        2 years ago

        And, add in Boyd’s probable departure, now Turnbull’s injury, Tigers are definitely in trouble right now.

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  10. Bob Melvin

    2 years ago

    We are monitoring his situation. Thanks Bob!!

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  11. ericm25

    2 years ago

    I’m sure the phillies will pick him up. it’s right in their motto. pick up some scrubs and see if it works out. give it a week or so ..

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    • Georgiajeff

      2 years ago

      Or the Mets

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  12. mbgutt

    2 years ago

    Pirates

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  13. lippy10195

    2 years ago

    Future Phillie

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  14. davemlaw

    2 years ago

    Holland sealed his fate when he claimed Zaidi put him on the DL when he wasn’t hurt. And the Dutch Oven wasn’t playing like a guy who wanted to be there. Too bad, because his velocity really picked up and he was effective against lefties. And he used to be funny! Harry Carey impersonations and self deprecation.

    Oh well. The Giants should have received more on their $7M investment but it’s not worth keeping a player who appears to not want to be there.

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  15. Sheep8

    2 years ago

    Phillies??!! Ranger? Or Rangers than Phillies!

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    • DarkSide830

      2 years ago

      id take Jones over Walding, but Holland is terrible.

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  16. Matt Galvin

    2 years ago

    Braves? Cardinals? Red Sox? Yankees? Astros? Brewers?

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    • scarfish

      2 years ago

      Pension.

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  17. sfjackcoke

    2 years ago

    Too much left on the contract to be claimed, a trade is likely where the SFG chip most of $ and get a low A bullpen guy or something like that. SFG used Holland to work full innings someone could easily view him as a LOOGY.

    This was not a 100% baseball decision, Holland has been pretty effective since June 1 coming out of the bullpen. A no doubt factor was him throwing the front office under the bus earlier in the year. Or maybe SF simply thought with the trade market not yet open they could force things with a DFA.

    10 days to the deadline, I’m not sure the vets in the clubhouse will look at this as the team fielding their best 25 guys. My only other guess at why him and not Pomeranz is because Pom is stretched out to start.

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  18. 22jclark

    2 years ago

    This sucks. I hope Holland catches on with another team in a pitcher friendly park. He created part of this with his fake injury claim but had been pitching better until yesterday. Probably more things going on behind the scenes but I liked him and wish him the best.
    If Menez looks good today, he’ll probably get another start and that would mean the end of Pomeranz. Not sure how he kept a roster spot. I figured it would be Pomeranz and Blach when they brought up Green and Menez. Guess that’s why I’m in Fresno and not being consulted by Zaidi and company! More moves to come. Also, it would be beneficial to start scoring a few more runs again. Let’s not revert back to 1-3 runs 5 games a week. Let’s go Giants!

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  19. Lance

    2 years ago

    Sadly, the Dutch Oven’s career seems to be over. But, he’s gonna be a great baseball announcer, IMO.

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    • Gobbysteiner

      2 years ago

      He would be, he’s hilarious. He’d be great as a color guy somewhere

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  20. letimmysmoke55

    2 years ago

    thank God “dutch” Holland is trash!!!! tired of seeing this guy serving up fastballs down the middle

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  21. DougieJones

    2 years ago

    Long time coming. Both are good moves. It’s time the Giants see what they have in Menez and Green.

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    • Baytown

      2 years ago

      Might as well. So far the moves have been part of the dynamic emergence of the team. Holland was on shakey grounds after complaining about his ‘dl or IL’ as it is today anyhow.
      Menez will be fun to see in about 20 minutes or so.

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      • DougieJones

        2 years ago

        Word. Menez looked great. And I agree, Holland throwing Zaidi under the bus wasn’t a good move. Holland would have stuck around if he pitched better but he has been pretty bad all year.

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        • Baytown

          2 years ago

          Very impressive how the young ones have performed Coop. That’s been my stance all along, i.e. time to go young starting 2 years ago. Vets are surely needed but nothing replaces youthful energy.

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  22. 2weeks

    2 years ago

    come back to Texas come back home

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  23. Joe W.

    2 years ago

    seems like the type of reclumation project ray and the pirates might have luck with.

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  24. Kingman#26

    2 years ago

    Menez had good control, a more poised Jonathan Sanchez but better command. Green looked fearless, who’s gonna go when Longo comes back?

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    • tad2b13

      2 years ago

      It may be awhile before Longo comes back. That’s the same issue that Ryan Zimmerman is having, and he’s missed a ton of time. He aggravated today in the game against the Braves and was pulled.

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  25. Solar Flare

    2 years ago

    RIP Giants career of Derek Lastname 2018-2019

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  26. JayRyder

    2 years ago

    What’s Amazing. About the Win today. . . Is there doing Exactly. What they need to do. . .

    I think the Holland assignment. Was more about chemistry. Than anything else… He made some snide remarks early in the season. And moving forward he wasn’t part of Farhans plans. Nor should he be. It makes a mark in the clubhouse, That we’re here to win. And build at the same time.

    Holland is a wake up call. To perform. And bring positive vibes. Instead of clownish behavior. I think he instilled going back to last season… Like he owned a piece for himself… One small casualty. That I think will pay off… And let’s see what we have in the minors too…

    They win today. 3/4 like they needed. Now if they can take 2/3 from the Cubs and Pads. . . We Have Something Really Cooking. !!!

    Great Teams can Win when they have too.. And the Giants have the best Bullpen… Offense has got to get going. They need another outfielder…

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  27. agentx

    2 years ago

    If DiPoto doesn’t find a better use for that dead money owned Vizcaino, maybe SEA and the Giants could work out an even money trade or one just slightly favoring SF to give the Mariners a club option and a chance to get to know Holland better?

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  28. upandcomerballplayer1087

    2 years ago

    Sure Dutch Holland is trash… but look at his cleats!!! He used custom cleats on some UA Hovr havoc basketball shoes and turned em into cleats. Gotta give him some credit for that if you ask me ;P

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