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MLBTR Poll: AL Wild Card Race

By Jeff Todd | September 12, 2019 at 6:47am CDT

We just gathered your latest predictions on the National League side, where there are still quite a few scenarios to consider. But the situation in the American League has gained quite a bit of clarity of late. It appears we’re looking at a potentially fascinating three-team race … with only one of those clubs ultimately getting a full divisional series.

Entering play today, the Rays half a half-game lead over the Athletics, who in turn carry another half-game advantage over the Indians. The Red Sox have fallen well out of the picture, removing one possibility for intrigue. Odds are, we’re going to see those three clubs duke it out down the stretch for position.

Okay, there is still one other realistic outcome. The Indians still have an outside chance of catching the Twins in the AL Central. And if that’s the case, then it’s also true that there’s even a possibility that the Twins will fall outside the postseason picture entirely. But even with Minnesota’s recent run of roster woes, the four-game spread gives them a stout advantage. And it’s especially improbable — so say the postseason odds estimators, at least — that the Minny faithful will be left without even a single playoff contest. Fangraphs and 538 both put the odds at less than one percent of that scenario.

Accordingly, we’ll focus on the Tampa Bay-Oakland-Cleveland low-revenue battle royale. There are any number of outrageous late-season scenarios if we end up with various sorts of ties. Regardless, it’s quite likely that only one of those organizations will be left standing when the ALDS begins.

Every minor factor matters at this stage of the season. The quality of the opposition is an especially major consideration. Here’s the remaining schedule for these three teams.

Rays

@ Rangers (1), @Angels (3), @Dodgers (2), vs. Red Sox (4), vs. Yankees (2), @ Blue Jays (3)

Athletics

@ Astros (1), @ Rangers (3), vs. Royals (3), vs. Rangers (3), @Angels (2), @Mariners (4)

Indians

vs. Twins (3), vs. Tigers (3), vs. Phillies (3), @ White Sox (3), @Nationals (3)


How do you think it’ll turn out? (Poll link for app users. Response order randomized.)

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  1. batty

    4 years ago

    Let’s just hope they all 3 end the season tied.

    Reply
    • Bocephus

      4 years ago

      Why?

      Reply
      • batty

        4 years ago

        Because extra baseball games is the simple reason. But also, we’d get the extra feeling of do or die games. How would that be bad for fans of baseball?

        Reply
        • Bocephus

          4 years ago

          The playoffs are too long, ratings are down as it is among other problems with the sport.

        • batty

          4 years ago

          So you are hoping that a situation that would raise ratings doesn’t happen? The playoffs are not too long. Would you rather it go back to World Series only “playoffs”?

        • Bocephus

          4 years ago

          Over saturation doesn’t raise ratings.

        • srechter

          4 years ago

          But unique and momentous do or die games absolutely do draw in the crowds. We’re not talking about extending the length of a series, we’re talking about an extremely rare and intriguing tie situation that would undoubtedly draw interest from a wider range of sports fans.

        • Bocephus

          4 years ago

          “But unique and momentous do or die games absolutely do draw in the crowds” Nothing, but nothing seems to help on that front. Baseball has truly become just a niche sport.

        • srechter

          4 years ago

          I mean, statistically speaking, you are wrong about what I just suggested. Yes, overall, baseball has become less wide-ranging in interest, but games such as those proposed, statistically, draw in greater crowds than, say, game 3 of a championship series.

        • Bocephus

          4 years ago

          “statistically speaking” most of the eyes drawn to those extra games will be regional fans of those teams, and that’s the trouble with baseball in 2019.

        • terry

          4 years ago

          Honestly? There are times I would.
          I’d rather add 2 teams and have four divisions in each league and no wild card games.

        • Phantomofdb

          4 years ago

          @ Bocephus you have an overly pessimistic view of the sport. General viewership across all sports is down. These types of games historically do bring some of the best ratings, there’s no reason to think that would be any different this time around.

        • rayrayner

          4 years ago

          Regional interest is why all the playoff games are on cable. The games don’t draw enough of an audience for FOX or another broadcast network to interrupt their regular programs. National audiences are only drawn for the World Series or maybe a Game 7 of an LCS.

          I do like the Wild Card games. I don’t know for sure, but I imagine they have a small increase in audience compared to an opening LDS or LCS game.

        • kleppy12

          4 years ago

          When there have been game 163’s they have been one of the most watched games of the season nationally and the wildcard games have been highly watched as well so stats disagree with you.

        • rayrayner

          4 years ago

          And you would have to normalize for the teams involved. There’s a big difference in viewing audience for New York as opposed to Milwaukee.

        • Bocephus

          4 years ago

          When FOX news programs outperform those games, things are bad. Viewership went down for the NFL for half a season, and have since bounced back

        • srechter

          4 years ago

          Again, what Kleppy just referred to. You obviously have an immovably pessimistic view on this issue, so no point to try and budge you. But, facts show that these particular games reach a wider-than-regional viewing audience.

        • batty

          4 years ago

          One of the things that hurts baseball is that the season continues into football season. Younger people don’t view sports in the same way as older folks do…meaning, it’s not as high of a priority. I have posted this before, but i strongly feel it would help baseball as a whole:

          Add 1 team to each league

          Shorten the season to 144 games

          Have 2 divisions in each league

          Eliminate interleague play

          Top 4 in each division make the playoffs

          1 v 4, 2 v 3 in 3 game division series

          Then re=seed the remaining teams 1 v 4, 2 v 3 in 5 game series

          LCS from remaining 2 teams in each league in 7 game series

          WS 7 game series

          Right now there are a possible 41 playoff games (including the WS) that could happen, if all went full series. If they went to what i suggest there would be 65 total if they all went full series (again, including the WS). But less than half of all 5 and 7 game series go the full sries, so in reality we’d likely be looking at roughly 52-ish games. That’s still more than are played now, so lost revenue from the 9 gone home games can be made up, easily. All out tanking would be less common because getting to the playoffs would be more lucrative and sustaining a quality chance of getting to the playoffs would also be more lucrative.

          The season would end before September and NFL season. The playoffs would draw better ratings because it won’t be happening in the part of the NFL season where fans are as ensconced in that sport. The playoffs could be scheduled where they end before October begins.

          It won’t happen because the owners will likely never OK a shorter season because of losing 9 home games. But really, attendance per game will likely rise due to fewer games scheduled.

        • rayrayner

          4 years ago

          Here’s how I would adjust your proposal:

          Add 2 teams (this wont happen until Oakland and TB figure out their stadium situations)

          Shorten the season to 154 games (only 4 less home games per team)

          Have 4 divisions of eight teams per division, no leagues (that’s right, no AL, no NL, just MLB)

          14 games vs team intra-division (98 total), 7 games vs. team in another division with division matchups occurring every three years (56 total).

          2nd place vs 3rd place meet in Wild Card game
          Winner meets 1st place team in division series but must win 4 games, 1st place team only needs to win 3.games.

          Then re=seed the remaining teams 1 v 4, 2 v 3 in 7 game series to get into the World Series

          WS 7 game series

        • rayrayner

          4 years ago

          DH would be needed league-wide but teams could let pitchers bat instead (Ohtani, Lorenzen, etc.)

          World Series would be in mid-October, just like it used to be.

        • Tigernut2000

          4 years ago

          “Top 4 in each division make the playoffs”! Please, no.

    • KingTiger

      4 years ago

      Cuz that would be really, really, cool…

      Reply
    • JDGoat

      4 years ago

      Oakland would really have to choke against bad competition for that to happen.

      Reply
      • batty

        4 years ago

        Yes, but it happens sometimes.

        Reply
      • OaklandFan22

        4 years ago

        Being an A’s fan for so many years, never take anything for granted. Could easily miss the playoffs, should be interesting.

        Reply
    • rayrayner

      4 years ago

      I can see all three ending at 96-76.

      Reply
      • WereAllJustGuestsHere

        4 years ago

        You’d be the only one; MLB does not have a 172 game schedule.

        Reply
        • rayrayner

          4 years ago

          Whoops! 96-66,.. you know what I mean.

        • WereAllJustGuestsHere

          4 years ago

          All is good Ray.

  2. twinsfan368

    4 years ago

    I just hope Cleveland is out let’s go RAYS and A’S!!!!

    Reply
  3. 3768902

    4 years ago

    I hate to say it, but I’d put the Twins somewhere in this poll as well. Only 4 up with 3 still left vs Cleveland, and while players are out for both teams, the Twins are getting less out of their depth than the tribe.

    Reply
    • kleppy12

      4 years ago

      After they play the Indians the Twins play the White Sox (3), KC (4), Detroit (3), KC (3) even if the Indians sweep the Twinz they would still be in 2nd and the Twins would be playing AA teams the rest of the year, they aren’t losing the division.

      Reply
      • 3768902

        4 years ago

        Hope you’re right.

        Reply
        • Phantomofdb

          4 years ago

          Well, the math is definitely in the Twins’ favor. Indians have 3 left against Twins, 3 left against Tigers, 3 left against White Sox. Let’s pretend they go 9-0 in those games. They then have 3 against the Phillies and 3 against the Nationals. If they go 3-3 in those… so saying a pretty generous 12-3 to finish the season, INCLUDING a sweep of the Twins… the Twins would still “only” have to go 10-4 while playing 1 against the Nationals, 3 against the Tigers, 3 against the White Sox, and 7 against the Royals.

          But. crazier things have happened.

  4. chico65

    4 years ago

    I keep waiting for the Rays to tank it but the chances of that happening are starting to dry up

    Reply
    • ColossusOfClout

      4 years ago

      Rays have the toughest remaining schedule.

      Reply
      • kc38

        4 years ago

        And have been playing the best, as a Rays fan I really don’t mind having the toughest schedule. Gotta determine your own fate and if you wanna be in the playoffs with the big boys you should play them hard and see what happens. Playing non contending teams just to make it then get knocked out the first round isn’t even worth making it.

        Reply
    • OaklandFan22

      4 years ago

      Rays have been playing a bunch of duds, looking forward to seeing them play some real teams.

      Reply
  5. kc38

    4 years ago

    I love when people think the Rays are gonna tank just because we don’t have the name recognized players that people know. There is no chance of the Rays dropping with Snell coming back, Glasnow back and continuing to stretch out, chirinos coming back. Rays have the best team out of the wild card teams by far and the healthier they get that’ll be shown

    Reply
    • bowserhound

      4 years ago

      By far? Yet only a combined 1 game ahead of the other two teams.

      Reply
      • krillin89

        4 years ago

        To be fair, their top 3 pitchers have been injured and they still remain in the lead. All 3 are coming back. KC38 has a solid point

        Reply
        • bowserhound

          4 years ago

          Perhaps you have not looked at the A’s rotation…they don’t even have a top 3.

        • kleppy12

          4 years ago

          Or the fact that the very same thing happened to Cleveland with even better pitchers than the Ray’s have.

    • OaklandFan22

      4 years ago

      Lol

      Reply
      • kc38

        4 years ago

        We’ve had 1 true starting pitcher for over a month now, I’d love to see any other team in baseball be able to gain games in the standings like that

        Reply
        • Phantomofdb

          4 years ago

          Baseball rarely works out that way. Gaining ground with the replacements doesn’t, in any way, guarantee that you’ll get even hotter with your regulars coming back.

        • kleppy12

          4 years ago

          Glad to see you know nothing about the Cleveland Indians.

  6. OaklandFan22

    4 years ago

    Jesus Luzardo, remember that name.

    Reply
    • krillin89

      4 years ago

      Jesus saves

      Reply
  7. GarryHarris

    4 years ago

    Tiger’s fans say: “Who cares; let’s just get this season over with.”

    Reply
  8. statman

    4 years ago

    The real race is for lowest home attendance – my bet is oakland will prevail in that category.

    Reply
    • drgntrnr

      4 years ago

      Doubtful, that’s definitely the Rays.

      Reply
  9. Bbrom

    4 years ago

    Rays do have the toughest schedule on paper but the Divers clinching already plus Boston’s starters are so weak..they still can hold on.

    Reply
  10. Bbrom

    4 years ago

    Dodgers*

    Reply

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