Some front office and dugout items from around the game…
- Twins chief baseball officer Derek Falvey turned down a request to interview for the top baseball operations job with the Red Sox, La Velle E. Neal III of the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports. There wasn’t much public news about Boston’s search prior to the hiring of Chaim Bloom as the new CBO earlier this week, though there had been rumors that the Sox might have interest in Massachusetts native Falvey, and Neal indeed writes that Falvey was “high on their list of candidates.” Reports from earlier this month suggested that Falvey and the Twins could be close to a contract extension, in the wake of Minnesota’s 101-win season.
- Braves third base coach Ron Washington was the runner-up in the Padres’ managerial search and also won’t be taking on a bench coach job with San Diego, Dennis Lin of The Athletic reports (subscription required). There had been speculation that Washington could provide a veteran counsel to first-time manager Jayce Tingler, though it appears that Washington will remain in his current job in Atlanta.
- Lin’s piece also details the risk GM A.J. Preller is taking in hiring another first-time skipper in what seems like a must-win year for the Padres. Going into such a pivotal season, however, Preller “preferred to take his chances with a candidate he clearly knows and has long held in high regard.” Lin also notes that Preller originally tried to hire Tingler away from the Rangers when Preller first became San Diego’s general manager back in 2014.
- The general consensus has been that the Royals would wait to hire their new manager until John Sherman officially took ownership of the franchise, though GM Dayton Moore tells Lynn Worthy of the Kansas City Star that this isn’t the case. “We have been given full autonomy to hire the next manager of the Kansas City Royals when we feel that we are ready and the process is complete. That could be today, tomorrow or sometime prior to the winter meetings,” Moore said, noting that Sherman has already been involved in the search process.” Since Moore described the front office as still being “in the middle of a very thorough process,” however, a new managerial hire doesn’t yet seem near. Royals special advisor and former Cardinals manager Mike Matheny has been widely seen as the favorite for the job, and to date, the only other publicly known candidates are also internal names, though the club has spoken to some external candidates.
joedirte4life
Ozzie Albies is like a son to Ron Washington and wont leave him unless he has manager job. But Washington does deserve another chance.
jhuck5
think Washington will take over for Snitker soon.
802Ghost
As a Braves fan, I’m not sure how I feel about that.. But, I’d be open to it. I do think he’s different enough from Snitker/Fredi/Bobby, that it’ll be good.
However, part of me would really like a complete different direction for the Braves. I think Snitker is too much like Bobby.
toastyroasty
Snicker is a good manager. Cox was a great manager. Fredie did nothing but suck
BravesCanada
Snitker refused to take Markakis out of the number 5 hole all year. There is not reason he should even start against lefties and Snit had him hitting 5th.
PhilsPhan
and a delicious candy bar
crazylarry
Great Mgrs win more than once in 15 straight years. If he was in football his name would be Marty Schottenheimer.
802Ghost
Great? I’m not sure I’d go great, given the failures of World Series’
Snit has his issues, especially in the pitching department.
802Ghost
Markakis is fine in the 5th hole. He puts good contact with the ball, moves ’em over when he needs to. He doesn’t strikeout. He’s a great #5 hitter.
black69
Agreed. Markakis was a fantastic 5 hole hitter. He hits singles consistently when needed.
grndslam
google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/mlb/2010/03/17/washing…
bravesfan
Braves need to do everything they can to keep Washington. Pay him well enough to not want to manage another team. I like having so many coaches with management experience on our staff. It’s important
BravesFan80
So glad Wash is staying in Atlanta!
lowtalker1
Says who?
Bench coach is an upgrade over 3rd base coach. Someone offered him that position and he wanted it… well
bravesfan
Upgrade is all relative when you already have solid management experience like Washington. Pay is the bigger concern. Would a bench coach get paid more than a high profile 3rd base coach? Prob depends on the team/market. Idk
Alfred E Neuman
And you know about Washington’s personal priorities how, bravesfan? Has he told you this? I love how fans assume that they know what does and doesn’t matter to professionals with whom they are not personally acquainted.
bravesfan
Yea…. it’s not rocket science Alfred lol. Money will likely influence him more than job title when it comes to non manager status. Especially sense he already has successful Mgmt experience on his resume. Lol Braves coaches (even minor league coaches) are traditionally paid well. I can’t imagine him jumping ship all for a title change unless it’s to be the head ball coach. Now, if ur talking realllly personal stuff, like his relationships or ideal work location… I don’t know that. But assuming he was interviewing for other positions, it appears that personal relationships aren’t gonna play the biggest factor in his decisions. Likely money
wordonthestreet
Why would Washington take the bench coach job to work under a novice manager who beat him out
bravesfan
Right. Only case is if the money is significantly better
khaisch
Really cool that preller was able to hire is friend as the GM. This won’t end poorly. Here’s to 5 more years of mediocrity
bleacherbum
The San Diego Tingler’s
nypadre66
Mediocrity would be a huge improvement over the first 5 years of Preller’s tenure.
jakeryan760
How does a GM hire someone else for GM position?
lowtalker1
I still find it funny that you always link cocaine Ron up to a 20 kids with Pittsburgh
bleacherbum
Washington was the right choice in SD. Completely miss-handled the whole situation. It’s funny that there are actually good amount of Padres fans who are hypnotized by ownership to believe that this was a good hire.
I want to puke when I see the supportive this guy, people digging up YouTube video’s and crowning the guy because he is bi-lingual and loves analytics. Knock it off. I can name 5 candidates who posses the same intangibles, with a far better resume.
This season will end like the last 5 have. There is NO WAY, Jayce Tingler comes in and demands respect from the likes of Machado and Hosmer who will make close to half a billion dollars collectively in their deals with SD, they will quit on this guy as fast as they did with Green. Washington, Girardi and Showalter have all managed teams with big salaries and ego’s, in which they have done well with.
lowtalker1
He is probably 100% better than green imo. Also, I don’t think preller would have been able to fully control Washington I like tingle berries.
lowtalker1
But, in reality, everything really depends on, who they sign in the off season, who they trade for, who they release/non tender, what coaches they actually get on board.
Padres have the prospect capital to turn into a winner, but let’s see what happens between now and opening day.
bleacherbum
@lowtalker1
Completely agree. The manager move really means nothing when it boils down to it for the Padres. As unfathomable as it sounded to hire Tingler, it’s a reality for at least a year.
Roster construction on the other hand needs to be better than it was last year. We were told last November that “The outfield logjam would be sorted”, it never was. Going into the season w/multiple corner OF’s on the roster forced Myers to see time in CF and it was bad.
The checklist is pretty obvious this year:
1. Frontline starter
2. LHH outfielder (Naylor, Martini) aren’t options, Cordero is always hurt.
3. 2B platoon with Urias
4. Give Mejia the starting C job, trade Hedges. Sign a veteran RHH backup.
5. Replace Stammen, give Yates a solid veteran partner at the back end of the pen.
imindless
Even if all that happens Which is highly unlikely they are still miles behind dodgers. Still saddled with machado, hosmer and wil myers for the foreseeable future. Not good for a small market.
Show Me Your Tatis
Urias isn’t a platoon bat.
lowtalker1
They wouldn’t be saddled with myers
They plan on trading him and eating half the contract. I can see a team like the jays needing a big name veteran player who thrived in the al east and a discounted rate go for him
padreforlife
Bingo
padreforlife
Myers isn’t worth 10 mil a year after eating 1/2 contract why Padre fans think that’s happening is unreal
bleacherbum
Urias shouldn’t be a platoon bat, but so far he can’t hit righties with Velo. Garcia got a ton of playing time this year because of that.
I could see a guy like Scooter Gennett being brought in as insurance. A year removed from being one of the games best second baseman. He can hit righties. If Urias starts the first month or two ice cold, then the platoon will happen naturally.
bleacherbum
Myers is as good as gone.
Jays are a logically landing spot, so is Seattle and Colorado.
The later two have contracts that can be sent back SD’s way in the hopes of a change of scenery situation.
Show Me Your Tatis
@bleacherbum if you use Urias as a platoon bat that is what he will become. Right-handed platoon bats have ZERO value.
No one is taking Myers. Not even if the Padres eat half his contract.
bleacherbum
@Show Me Your Tatis
I feel you. It would be difficult to put the platoon label on him because he would indeed become that. There is still hope that he puts it together at the big league level.
Only way Myers goes is if the Padres take back a contract eerily similar. Most likely for starting or bullpen pitching depth. Colorado screams a fit due to the influx of unproductive bullpen arms that could benefit from Balsley’s tutelage if he stays.
Show Me Your Tatis
Urias won’t even be 23 until June. Way too early to say he’ll never hit RHP’s.
Would be interesting to see what Wil Myers would become playing half his games in Coors Field.
bleacherbum
Yes, we as an organization have been prone to give up on players way too early, Urias would be another member to add to that list. I like his approach, I can see him settling in just fine. Especially if we add around him offensively.
A deal surrounded around Myers and possibly Ian Desmond makes sense on the surface. Myers would be a huge bounce back candidate getting to play half his games at Coors, where he mashes.
Desmond would come to SD and be an effective matchup guy who is going to bring a lot more value than Myers does. Can spell Hosmer against tough LH matchups, gets starts in LF when the (insert here) Left-Handed Hitting bat is brought in. He has ties to Tingler as well, he was an All-Star with the Rangers when he spent a season over there.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
I wanted Washington. Too bad. Yep, Padres as of 10/27/19 are behind the Dodgers but not “miles”. Am real sure Myers will be traded with Hosmer joining him. We’ll eat salary unless the money swaps are relatively even on the out & in. Machado’s staying—stop being jello. Small market San Diego will win a World Series before the Dodgers do. That’s a for sure. Your big-market boys have gagged more in the WS than Kasten’s Braves. 5-131, baby!
hockeyjohn
Who is going to take Myers and Hosmer? I think you are either dreaming or drinking heavily.
Show Me Your Tatis
Brodie Van Wagenen, maybe.
hockeyjohn
Myers is a big name veteran? That is really, really funny. It will also cost you some of your better pitching prospects to go with half the contract to get Toronto interested with very little coming back to the Padres. I don’t see Mark Shapiro taking on Myers unless there is enough motivation to do so. Just paying half his contract won’t do it.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Stubborn, huh? I already told you—Dodgers taking Myers and Hosmer. They’re sending Kershaw for his brown uni fitting. Don’t ask again, slowpoke. Stop thinking—it doesn’t become you.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Xavier Edwards looks good for now & long-term at 2B. Urias off bench at 2B/SS. Preller smartly acquired SS Tatis. You could’ve been, “Show Me da Appetizers on da Trea”.
hockeyjohn
It is obvious that thinking is foreign to you. It shows by your comments. You haven’t told me anything before. I have never commented on your nonsense before. Enjoy Hosmer and Myers on the Padres for 2020.
Show Me Your Tatis
There would have been space on the team for both Trea Turner and Fernando Tatis Jr.
Frisco500
If a guy like Hosmer, who was signed for his veteran leadership, will only respect a vet mng with a resume…. Padres are in trouble. Manny doesn’t even respect himself. Why hire based on what he thinks? Hes there to collect a paycheck.
padreforlife
Collects check ski mask
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Who cares what Hosmer is willing to respect? He’s proven to be a terrible defensive 1B and isn’t worth his contract on offense. Where’s the leadership? Padres are in trouble with him on the field. Manny works for a paycheck. Don’t you? You a top performer at all times? Maybe you ought to decline your big pay.
padreforlife
No fault on them who would decline it’s brain dead GM who gave 1/2 billion to Myers, Hosmer, and Machado
SanDiegoPaul
No one thinks this is a good hire. With Maddon off the table our choices were poo though.
Yankeefan1998
Well said… I 100% agree with you… Another tough stretch for Padre fans. I predict less than 70 wins for SD Padres…
Show Me Your Tatis
How are the Padres going to be worse next year? They aren’t losing anyone important and more of the baby Pads will make their way to the show.
Judd_Skinner
Washington needs to be the next manager in Atlanta. I wish that it were in the 2020 season.
youngTank15
The Orioles should have hired him.
Show Me Your Tatis
Orioles’ new FO is pretty much as close to pure analytics as you can get. No way they would go for a guy like Wash as their manager.
padreforlife
Sure that bench coach job for Padres very appealing not the scratch they are offering and unstable regime most will pass
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
The unstable regime is in Washington.
padreforlife
Really team that won pennant or White House
Royalsfan12
Sign this petition so Royals don’t hire Matheny.
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dynamite drop in monty
Why did I park so far away
hinglemccringleberry
People say what they want about Washington and another guy in dusty baker. Baker is better than 95% of the managers today. I still remember what Washington did in Texas. Why these two aren’t managing, I’m not sure. There are some awful managers in the mlb today. Look no further than Cincinnati and David bell.
wordonthestreet
With Baker it is most likely his age. With Washington it is most likely his drug past
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Word on the street said it is most likely your lack of physical baseball skills and your unsatisfactory reactions in pressure ballfield situations. Either way, they can’t use you.
Show Me Your Tatis
Saw this on another site.
Assuming that the data are iid normal (which is not self evident), if a National League team wins 85 games in 2020, they will have an 8% chance of picking up the second wild card spot. 86 wins gives them a 14% chance. 87 wins gives them a 21% chance. 88 wins gives them a 31% chance. 89 wins gives them a 42% chance. 90 wins gives them a 54% chance. 91 wins gives them a 66% chance. 92 wins gives them a 76% chance. 93 wins gives them an 85% chance. 94 wins gives them a 91% chance. And 95 wins gives them a 95% chance.
The fewest games won by the 2nd national league wild card team since the 2 wild card system was instituted back in 2012 is 87 (the 2016 Mets and Giants and the 2017 Rockies). The most is 97 (the 2015 Cubs).
skip tracey
“it appears that Washington will remain in his current job in Atlanta”
If this holds true then I am very glad to have Ron Washington with the Braves again.
its_happening
Another disappointing season and Preller is gone anyway. He may as well go with the guy he likes a trusts rather than a manager with a track record of turning teams around quickly, like Buck Showalter.
On second thought, the latter idea sounded much better.
fletch
Should’ve hired Falvey and saved the Twins, guy doesn’t know pitching talent even it hit him in the face.
nelsonj6
When I see posts that start with “as a(n) (insert your team here) fan,” I immediately question that commenters intelligence.