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Will Harris: Overlooked Free Agent?

By Connor Byrne | December 31, 2019 at 1:24am CDT

For the most part, the upper end of the free-agent relief market emptied out quickly this offseason. Aroldis Chapman stuck with the Yankees, Will Smith and Chris Martin signed with the Braves, Drew Pomeranz reunited with the Padres, and Dellin Betances switched from the Yanks to the crosstown rival Mets. Now, going by the contract predictions MLBTR made at the beginning of the offseason, former Astros right-hander Will Harris looks like the No. 1 reliever left on a board that also includes Daniel Hudson, Steve Cishek and Craig Stammen near the top of a shrinking class. We called for a two-year, $18MM payday for Harris, and although that still seems reasonable, he hasn’t generated much public attention this winter.

Almost two months since free agency opened, just one team – Minnesota – has come up as a rumored suitor for Harris. There could be unreported clubs chasing Harris, though it’s surprising that there hasn’t been more speculation centering on the 35-year-old. After all, since his 2013 breakout with the Diamondbacks, not many relievers have been more productive. Going back to then, Harris has pitched to a 2.59 ERA/2.97 FIP with 9.58 K/9, 2.28 BB/9 and a 50.4 percent groundball rate across 378 2/3 innings.

There was no let-up last season for Harris, who posted a career-best 1.50 ERA in 60 frames. Judging relievers by ERA is dangerous, granted, and Harris was fortunate to prevent runs at such a stingy rate. But the rest of his numbers were also quite impressive, as he managed a 3.15 FIP/3.04 xFIP/3.18 SIERA, 9.3 K/9, 2.1 BB/9 and a 54.6 percent grounder rate.

Altough Harris didn’t blow anyone away with his cutter-curve mix, both pitches were among the best of their kind, according to FanGraphs. Excellent spin rates had something to do with it. Harris ranked in the game’s 96th percentile in fastball spin and in its 86th percentile with the curve, per Statcast. Hitters had immense difficulty squaring up either offering, as shown by the lack of damaging contact Harris surrendered. He finished in the majors’ 84th percentile in hard-hit rate and in the 89th percentile in expected weighted on-base average against.

Once the playoffs rolled around, Harris’ lights-out performance continued. It’s true the Nationals did get the better of Harris in their Game 6 and 7 World Series wins over Houston, which wasn’t the way he wanted to go out last season. Still, Harris concluded the postseason with 9 2/3 innings of two-run ball, striking out 11 and issuing just one walk along the way.

Harris undoubtedly made a strong case for a quality payday throughout the year, but with 2019 about to turn to 2020, he remains on the market. Youth isn’t on Harris’ side, of course, and he doesn’t carry much experience as a closer. Those factors could be scaring off some teams, but as a hurler who has averaged 50-plus innings of terrific results for the past seven seasons, he has established himself as a high-end setup man. Perhaps Harris will be paid accordingly when the new year arrives.

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  1. BudLightKnight

    5 years ago

    I’ve been saying this all offseason: this guy would be the perfect guy for the dodgers to sign

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    • BrandonGregory74

      5 years ago

      He needs to be a Red

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      • cdr9er

        5 years ago

        You guys just got Thornburg so you’re set lol

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      • bigredsfan41017

        5 years ago

        I agree and as Thornsburg, he’s on a minor league contract with an invite! The Reds need Harris in the bullpen!

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  2. delete

    5 years ago

    Solid reliever who deserves a good contract.

    Just wanted to take this opportunity to remind everyone that the Astros systematically cheated their way to a world series title in a conspiracy that involved everyone from the front office to the field staff to the players, and that Major League Baseball is preparing to levy crippling and well deserved penalties.

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    • Dodgethis

      5 years ago

      Just wanted to remind you that the rest of us live down here on planet Earth. You should join us.

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    • aggie99

      5 years ago

      I will also remind you that you’re gonna be really sad when MLB does nothing. The Astros are legit, high quality baseball players and coaches… your team just wasn’t as good in 17 and unless you were are a Nats fan not as good in 2019… so suck it!!!!!

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      • delete

        5 years ago

        Surely you can’t be this ignorant. Have you read nothing on this topic since the news first broke? Major League Baseball has spent millions on this investigation and has widened the scope of the investigation multiple times. Astros executives were shunned at winter meetings and free agents (other than incumbents) have steered clear of this team like the plague. Everyone but the worst homers and the most ignorant at this point are pretty clear that major consequences are on the way.

        I will also remind you that this is a significantly worse infraction and scandal than the recent Braves saga, and we all saw how severe their penalties were.

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        • drewm

          5 years ago

          Sounds like a disgruntled Cards fan

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        • dynamite drop in monty

          5 years ago

          No it sounds like a reasonable, cogent observer

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        • Just_a_thought

          5 years ago

          @Drew

          Could you repeat that? It was hard to hear you with your head in the sand.

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        • Strike Four

          5 years ago

          “Surely you can’t be this ignorant.”

          bro, the last line of his post literally is:

          “your team just wasn’t as good in 17 and unless you were are a Nats fan not as good in 2019… so suck it!!!!!”

          Of COURSE he’s this ignorant!

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      • cubsnomore

        5 years ago

        If cheating wasn’t helping they would not have done it. So we don’t know how good these hitters truly are.

        As far as pitching I don’t know if they had any advantages. So Harris appears a legit bullpen add. But who knows maybe he’s still available because of association to being an Astro.

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        • its_happening

          5 years ago

          Road numbers might give you an indication.

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        • delete

          5 years ago

          Presuming that at home was the only place they were cheating. I’m sure that if they went to the lengths they went to in order to cheat at home, they were also interested in cheating on the road. Let’s see how the investigation turns out before going to the splits.

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        • terry g

          5 years ago

          How about we wait and see how the investigation plays out before we try, convict and sentence anyone in the organization.

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        • delete

          5 years ago

          No person is being singled out in this thread. The organization on the other hand is guilty as hell and the video is there to prove it along with corroborating eyewitness statements. Individual culpability will be determined in the investigation.

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        • dirkg

          5 years ago

          A quick note that Astro pitchers benefitted as well. It’s much easier to toe the rubber with a 4 run lead. Or also knowing you’re offense has an artificial advantage when you’re down runs. Pitching is about confidence and trusting your stuff, which both are boosted by elevated support from your offense.

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        • wordonthestreet

          5 years ago

          Being interested in cheating on the road means nothing. They are not even accused of that. The splits are important. They cheated. All evidence so far suggests cheating at home only

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      • csspackler

        5 years ago

        Just imagine how good they’ll be when the Astros analytics people hack the new robo ump system at Minute Maid Park in a couple of years.

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      • Anthony Princeton

        5 years ago

        If indeed MLB finds something, which is probable, the Astros will pay. The below is from Rob Manfred.

        “I think that this is probably the most thorough investigation that the commissioner’s office has ever undertaken,” he said Wednesday at the winter meetings. “I think we’ve interviewed already nearly 60 witnesses, 76,000 e-mails, a whole additional trove of instant messages.

        “That review has caused us to conclude that we have to do some follow-up interviewing. It is my hope to conclude the investigation just as promptly as possible, but it’s really hard to predict how long something like that is going to take.”

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        • kenphelps44

          5 years ago

          An appropriate punishment would see the Astros lose their first three round picks in 2020 and 2021 and force them to draft at the end of each round during that time. These shenanigans didn’t just affect one team like what A.J. Preller did to the Red Sox a few years ago. This affected every visiting team playing in Houston and it potentially affected each divisions standings not to mention post season play. When you are talking about the integrity of the game Manfred needs to make the punishment fit the crime.

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      • Balboni

        5 years ago

        I think mlb is dragging this out and the punishment will be a slap on the wrist… if the stros can cheat their way to the World Series what does that say about the Pete rose ban?

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        • HalosHeavenJJ

          5 years ago

          It says the Astros, like the steroid guys, cheated in an effort to win but Peter Rose the gambler may have bet either way, and likely did.

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      • melkor77

        5 years ago

        Hey aggie99… if someone doesn’t agree with your world view, they should suck it? Dude, that’s already your mom’s job, and she’s a greedy gretchen…

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    • Phanatic 2022

      5 years ago

      Should the astros players receive the same bias when their turn to go the the HOF comes? Steroids create an “unfair advantage “ as does knowing what pitch is coming…

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      • delete

        5 years ago

        For me that will depend what is found as far as how extensive the cheating was and for how long. I don’t think an outlying season makes a HOF case… Three+ years in the other hand is maybe a different story.

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      • Reggie Bars

        5 years ago

        I guess we’ll have to knock Willie Mays out of the Hall since he played for those cheatin ’51 Giants. And whatever other Hall of Fame members were on the team

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        • wordonthestreet

          5 years ago

          No we do not need to knock out Willie Mays

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    • DarkSide830

      5 years ago

      ah thanks. we had all forgotten.

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    • FattKemp

      5 years ago

      The Astros cheating scandal is the stupidest thing to happen to MLB in my lifetime (December 1993). Banging on a trash can for signs… Okay? Have you ever tried to steal signs? These men are payed multimillions to hit/field/throw a 5 oz baseball and the amount of time they have to spend in a day perfecting that craft doesn’t allow for efforts at cheating to be this successful. The Yankees stole signs all through the 50s and no one cared. Why should anyone care now? It is a part of the game.

      Free Agents aren’t going to Houston probably because they acquired a Pitcher making $30 mil/yr at the deadline, Wi;ll Harris is expendable because they have other options, and their owner isn’t one to throw $40 million every off-season at the team’s holes. Everyone needs to relax and get on with life.

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      • delete

        5 years ago

        The fact that you think sign stealing is the problem here and that a 1950s sign stealing incident is even relevant demonstrates that you haven’t even read a single article on this topic.

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      • dynamite drop in monty

        5 years ago

        Using technology is not “part of the game”

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      • Just_a_thought

        5 years ago

        @FattKemp

        A take so hot the sun just lost its job.

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      • Reggie Bars

        5 years ago

        Agreed Fat Kemp. All these teams cheat in various ways. It’s been going on since the dawn of baseball. The Twins cheated with the ventilation system in the Metrodome. I don’t recall any penalties for that. The legendary 1951 Giants were stealing signs during their comeback against the Dodgers in the pennant race. And there are many other examples if you search through the history of the game.

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        • delete

          5 years ago

          The Twins scandal came to light more than 15 years later. No investigation ever took place, and rightfully so… There is no way evidence or witnesses could be considered reliable so long after the fact… The very reason why our society observes statutes of limitation. The Giants sign stealing scheme was confirmed more than 50 years later. Two piss poor examples which have no relevance to the current case… Which major league baseball is indeed taking seriously and which will result in severe penalties

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      • Strike Four

        5 years ago

        Wrong, interleague play and unbalancing the schedule are MUCH stupider things that happened to MLB in your lifetime.

        Also the whole “ignoring, then kinda ignoring, then sort of ignoring steroids” thing was also very stupid.

        Also Kevin Millar being a scab in ’94 then having a decades-long career in MLB and MLB broadcasting is really stupid too.

        This is top 10 stupidest at best.

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      • wordonthestreet

        5 years ago

        @FattKemp

        Clueless comment. Using Technology to steal signs is not the same as the Yankees and others who use their own eyes which is part of the game. Get a clue man!

        Oh you think banging on trash can is no big deal? Well it is when technology tells you the pitch and the banging is the signal. So spare me the how they perfect the craft with practice. Sorry to tell you when you know what pitch is coming it has everything to do with cheating not perfecting their craft. Ignorance is no excuse

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    • andremets

      5 years ago

      My prediction: lost of 1 first round pick, $500k fine, loss of some international spending money, 1-2 execs fired (they will prob blame it on Mr. “Osusa is So Awesone”. Worst case, Gm gets suspended for a year.

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      • delete

        5 years ago

        And on what basis do you think their penalty will not be as severe as the Braves recent penalty?

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        • bravesfan88

          5 years ago

          While I do think the Astros will be severely punished, it is two different cases.

          Even though, it was widely practiced by other franchises, the Braves were caught cheating acquiring players. Also, the league knew this needed to stop, and it was reportedly being done by other teams as well; therefore, they wanted it to stop and dropped the hammer..

          It hurt the Braves, because they could no longer really participate in the foreign amateur market. That is a prime way of acquiring young talent. This has nothing to do with acquiring talent, so it likely won’t hurt the Astros as bad.

          Now, they can certainly cause them to forfeit some draft picks and some international slot money, but it won’t have the near longterm effects that the Braves punishments have and will have.

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        • delete

          5 years ago

          The point is that successfully cheating today in such a way that a world series was successfully won is WAY WAY worse than cheating in the hope that actions with results far in the future will someday many years later possibly result in a world series. That’s what makes the Astros infractions so much more serious than the Braves.

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  3. homerheins

    5 years ago

    Relievers are so important, yet the easiest way to waste money. Dodgers and Yankees can afford it, but 8-10 million on a dud would sink small market competitors. KC showed everyone how to do it last time they won. Any hungry former starters looking to reinvent themselves on a smaller contract?

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    • cards04

      5 years ago

      Greg Holland and Kelvin Herrera we’re starters? Just asking I didn’t know

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  4. Dodgethis

    5 years ago

    I would bet his asking price is why he’s still unemployed.

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  5. mecousinvinny

    5 years ago

    Mets need pen pitchers and who do they sign ???? Delin Betances coming off injury — for 10 mil no less — Will Harris would have fit in the Mets pen as would he with many other teams

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    • angt222

      5 years ago

      If they can free the salary, they should still consider signing Harris.

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      • phenomenalajs

        5 years ago

        I could see the Mets making more moves, but mostly it’s hoping for rebounds from Diáz and Familia. Without any further moves, the 13-man pitching staff would be:
        Starters: deGrom, Thor, Stroman, Matz, Porcello; Relievers: Wacha, Brach, Gsellman, Wilson, Lugo, Betances, Familia and Díaz. All have guaranteed contracts for 2020. Any additional bullpen upgrades would have to come via trade. One suggestion I saw on risingapple.com was Lowrie and Gsellman for Soria. Mets would have to send some $ in the A’s direction.

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        • Ejemp2006

          5 years ago

          Soria is not the one you want. Give a minor league contract to Johnson instead.

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        • angt222

          5 years ago

          Been saying for Mets to trade Lowrie to COL for McGee. Both in need of a rebound and have similar salaries for 2020.

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      • mecousinvinny

        5 years ago

        Harris will be gone by then — no one wants Lowerie, Diaz or Familia or Cespedes

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    • think it thru

      5 years ago

      Perhaps the Mets should sign him for more depth in case their 2 big ifs-ED/JFrepeat their 2019 performances. Harris is still serviceable. Offer 1/8 it’s not like any ones knocking

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      • Bill M

        5 years ago

        The Mets should try to sign one of the 4 relievers mentioned in the article. Then they’d have a pretty complete bullpen. Harris is likely gonna be somewhat expensive though. I’m surprised those 4 guys are still available. These days, every team needs to solidify their pen. Surely, Cishek can’t be asking for much. I’d have to think that none of those guys are gonna get more than 1 year

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  6. PinstripedPride

    5 years ago

    I know Hader is the better pitcher and the bigger name, but Harris is a solid reliever even if he is in his mid-thirties

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    • Eatdust666

      5 years ago

      And you won’t have to give up valuable assets for Harris.

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  7. ChapmansVacuum

    5 years ago

    Sometimes players just are busy and dont have time to take to finish it. You would be amazed how often a deal might be close with agent and team, but the players on vacation and nothing happens till they return.

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    • AndyWarpath

      5 years ago

      Did you just quote one of the chats?

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      • douger007

        5 years ago

        He did.

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        • clepto

          5 years ago

          At least he didnt upvote his own comment like, say, Mo4ever does….

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        • dugdog83

          5 years ago

          Weak.

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          clepto

          Like you’ve been doing ever since you accused me. And once again you are back to troll rather than talk about baseball. It’s been months since you’ve made a baseball comment. Months. You are the consummate troll. Not many comments, none about baseball, all about trolling.

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        • clepto

          5 years ago

          You really struggled not hitting that “thumbs up” on your own comment, didnt you? it’ll be ok. you keep on being you!

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          You still have nothing to say about baseball, do you? Why do you even come here? Since you accused me I notice that like 60% of your infrequent non-baseball comments have 1 upvote, which is remarkable since your history is no upvotes ever, which is no doubt why you are interested in other people’s votes. I find that very interesting. But not as interresting as the fact you have no interest in baseball but still bother to come here to troll a few commenters. That is the sign of a very small person with an even smaller life. I won’t get further into the details, for now.

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        • bravesfan88

          5 years ago

          If he is the troll you say he is, all you’re doing is feeding him more ammo..

          It is an open comments section about sports, there will always be trolls. However, the more you ignore them, the faster they will realize they’re only wasting their own time..

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          Yeah, unfortunately he doesn’t work that way. Whether or not he gets a response, he comes on every day or so and trolls 1-4 people with 1-10 comments. He thinks he’s the smartest guy in the room and he’s a bully. Those two correlate highly with a narcissist, and I have low tolerance for them, I admit. Comes from years in boardrooms…

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  8. MrMet33

    5 years ago

    2/$16M – who is going to do it? Cards/Angels/Twins should look. Phillies need him most.

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      5 years ago

      White Sox should be in on that price, too. Relievers are their biggest remaining need.

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      • bravesfan88

        5 years ago

        This is a good call, I think the White Sox will end up signing Harris.

        It just depends on whether he wants to move his family or not..I could see the White Sox, Angels, and the Nationals as three likely landing spots..

        Maybe Texas comes in if he doesn’t want to move his family around, but at his age, I think it might play a fairly significant role..Just a guess though really..

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    • sam00991

      5 years ago

      Yeah… Phillies need him greatly especially because Robertson is out for the whole year.

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    • ForestCobraAL

      5 years ago

      “We called for a two-year, $18MM payday for Harris”

      That’s what Klentak paid fat boy. Lear Jet Johnny told Klentak “No more relievers”.

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      • angelsfan4life

        5 years ago

        It will be the Angels. Once the realize that trading for another starter, is not going to happen. They will deepen the bullpen. Middleton in the 7th Harris in the 8th and Robles in the 9th. With Anderson, Buttrey, Bedrosian, Ramirez, and a long reliever in Mejia. The Angels pitching will be better.

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        • macstruts

          5 years ago

          The Angels have two absolute needs. A starter that can go 100+ innings and a catcher.

          A nine million dollar a year BP arm is a luxury they can’t afford.

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  9. shortytallz

    5 years ago

    Nobody wants these cheatin stros. They can’t be trusted.

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    • PinstripedPride

      5 years ago

      The trashcans were benefiting the hitters, not the pitchers. There’s no evidence of the pitching cheating yet, in fairness

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      • hyraxwithaflamethrower

        5 years ago

        How would one cheat to help the pitcher? Stealing signs from the other dugout, 1b/3b coach has always been gamesmanship. Does the catcher sneakily tie the batter’s shoes together?

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        • delete

          5 years ago

          Pitchers don’t benefit from cheating on offense? Playing with a lead and having your mistakes picked up by the offense are game changing factors for a pitcher and is without question an advantage. Pitchers are culpable if they knew what was going on and acquiesced

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        • adkuchan

          5 years ago

          The team benefits, but it doesn’t help a pitcher prevent runs.

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        • delete

          5 years ago

          Let me get this straight. You believe having a lead or having a mistake erased does not affect a pitcher’s performance moving forward? Just curious to know if you have ever pitched. If you have ever experienced what it is like to pitch confidently vs pitching under pressure. It was a rhetorical question, Everyone else already realizes how absurdly wrong you are.

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        • OntariGro

          5 years ago

          “Pitching confidently” and “pitching under pressure” are not opposing ideas. Pitching confidently under pressure is essentially a one line job description for Major League Pitcher.

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        • delete

          5 years ago

          The fact that you are busy picking at my semantics rather than addressing the main point says it all.

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    • iamhector24

      5 years ago

      Go tell that to Cole.

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      • MoRivera 1999

        5 years ago

        As a Yankee fan, the one thing I worry about with the Cole acquisition is how he will do if he doesn’t always have an early and/or large lead from an offense playing with a stacked deck.

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        • bravesfan88

          5 years ago

          Wasn’t there someone that used to pitch for the Astros that came out and made a comment that they somehow cheated to help the pitchers with their spin rates or something??

          I vaguely remember reading something about it, but I’m too lazy at the moment to google it..lol

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  10. phillyballers

    5 years ago

    Good thing he didnt get signed by the Phillies bc he’d be injured upon the introduction press conference.

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  11. south side hit men

    5 years ago

    White Sox should be in on him

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  12. twinky

    5 years ago

    Twins could use him

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  13. Cliff Burton

    5 years ago

    Go to the “Nati

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  14. bravesfan

    5 years ago

    I’ll be honest… it’s his name. I’m a big baseball guy, and I wouldn’t have been able to tell you he’s been this good and consistently solid over his career. I knew he was a fine pitcher and would be happy to have him, but he doesn’t draw attention like the big names… undeservingly so. This guy deserves to get paid and will be a good pickup for a team

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  15. scottaz

    5 years ago

    We’re at that time of the off-season when players and their agents in free agency are exposed for overestimating their value. Last two off-seasons were weak on talent, and guys like Keuchel thought they deserved huge contracts, but the market said No. When sites like MLBTR say “He’s the best available reliever.”, that statement is totally misleading , but many fans buy into it and raise their expectations about huge contracts players “deserve”. The “best available” at any point in time is highly variable. At this point in the off-season, the “best available” among the dregs still on the market isn’t really a ringing endorsement of that player’s value. Yet, fans are clamoring for “cheapskate owners” to spend relatively big money on a middle reliever market that is highly volatile from year to year. Those claims of “cheapskate owners” will come now, despite the fact that the “cheapskate owners” already forked out over $1B to the top free agents this year!

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  16. DirtyWater04

    5 years ago

    Red Sox could have fit him into our payroll if we had non-tendered JBJ…….ugh.

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    • ForestCobraAL

      5 years ago

      That’s what JBJ is.

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      • DirtyWater04

        5 years ago

        Yup. I like Jackie a lot but not at $ 11 million. For what little value he brings at the plate he should barely be getting half that. Would’ve been better off cutting him loose and spending that money on relief pitching. Probably could fit Harris and a second quality arm in at $11 M combined.

        Would’ve been perfectly content with, depending on which of Casas/Dalbec/Duran had the better spring training, giving either Casas or Dalbec the first base job, pushing Chavis to DH, and rolling with JDM/Benny/Betts in the outfield, or giving Duran the center field job and letting the others stay put.

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  17. johndietz

    5 years ago

    Angels should sign Harris and Cishek. If the Angels aren’t going to get a Frontline starter then shorten the game with the pitchers they have and assemble an elite bullpen. That was the formula for their 2002 World Series team. Explosive offense, starters that went a serviceable 5 innings, then a combination or Weber, Donnelly, Shields, Frankie before Troy

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    • ForestCobraAL

      5 years ago

      Dude.

      When Trout got on the plane to Philly the Angels had no pitching staff. Their only decent starter was dead.

      If the Angels had signed Cole, Strasburg and Bumgarner, Trout might have headed for John Wayne Airport on October 1st like he does every year.

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      • johndietz

        5 years ago

        The staff is better than you think. The players back from TJ will have a full spring, Canning and Sandoval were called up before they were ready and the others will fill in. They’ll be fine.

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        • ForestCobraAL

          5 years ago

          “They’ll be fine”

          Arte Moreno must have a wood carving of that sentence hanging on his office wall.

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        • dynamite drop in monty

          5 years ago

          Will his tombstone read “They were not fine””?

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        • macstruts

          5 years ago

          The Angels pitchers are not in dire straits. The Angels have two starters who should pitch 300+ innings. Then they ONLY need 400+ innings from Ohtani, Canning and Heaney. Then they need to add someone who can pitch 100 to 120 effective innings, All that is very reachable.

          The Angels should sign Alex Wood and Castro.. They don’t need a mediocre starter to pitch 175 innings. They need 100+ effective innings.

          Is it the best place to be?.. No. But with the expected offense, it’s hardly the worst place to be.

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        • Strike Four

          5 years ago

          It is not better than you think. Ohtani is the only elite ceiling and he’s not going to be doing that regularly until 2021. Angels could have been outstanding had they signed Cole and/or Strasburg. But instead Trout once again gets a skeleton squad behind him. Shake. My. Head….

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      • macstruts

        5 years ago

        Cobra, the Angels don’t have an ace is a far cry from they have no pitching.

        Who is the Ace on the A’s.? Who is their #2. I’m just curious who you call an ace and a #2.?

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        • Strike Four

          5 years ago

          Luzardo, Puk, Manaea, Montas and Fiers probably all claim to be the A’s #1.

          Fiers is definitely not elite over the course of a season (although he has 2 no hitters), but the other four have flashed that ceiling in recent history. So the A’s have four #1 guys. Cool.

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        • Just_a_thought

          5 years ago

          @mac

          Good thing the Angels’ owner doesn’t follow the same logic as you. Oh wait…

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  18. scottaz

    5 years ago

    Seriously? MLBTR…just trying to figure out what word in my previous post threw it into moderation?

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    • ForestCobraAL

      5 years ago

      It’s really awful. What do you call a low velo pitcher? A “soft tos…”

      Can’t write that here.

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      • scottaz

        5 years ago

        Forest, I deleted “MLBTR” from my post that went into moderation, copied and pasted the post and it went through ok. I guess they feared I was criticizing them, when in fact I wasn’t. My post really didn’t have anything to do with this website specifically. Oh well?

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  19. scottaz

    5 years ago

    We’re at that time of the off-season when players and their agents in free agency are exposed for overestimating their value. Last two off-seasons were weak on talent, and guys like Keuchel thought they deserved huge contracts, but the market said No. When websites say “He’s the best available reliever.”, that statement is totally misleading , but many fans buy into it and raise their expectations about huge contracts players “deserve”. The “best available” at any point in time is highly variable. At this point in the off-season, the “best available” among the dregs still on the market isn’t really a ringing endorsement of that player’s value. Yet, fans are clamoring for “cheapskate owners” to spend relatively big money on a middle reliever market that is highly volatile from year to year. Those claims of “cheapskate owners” will come now, despite the fact that the “cheapskate owners” already forked out over $1B to the top free agents this year!

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    • ForestCobraAL

      5 years ago

      They’re not “cheapskates”, they’re bloodsuckers.

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      • scottaz

        5 years ago

        Forest, my point is that when the off-season gets to this point where the truly valuable free agents have been snapped up, some of the remaining free agents (and their agents) overprice themselves. The owners may or may not be “cheapskates” or “bloodsuckers”, but I wouldn’t cite these decisions as evidence they are. I fault the players and their agents in these instances for unrealistic expectations. Everybody makes mistakes, we’re all humans. The recent announcement that stood out to me was when the Japanese player (forget his name), a glove first/weak bat 2b signed back in Japan because he discovered that the MLB market was flooded with 2b this year and he didn’t stand a chance of getting a major league contract this year. I think that was the fault of the US agent not doing his or her homework about the current marketplace. Perhaps excessive greed creates other mistakes like that?

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        • MoRivera 1999

          5 years ago

          scottaz

          “when the off-season gets to this point where the truly valuable free agents have been snapped up, some of the remaining free agents (and their agents) overprice themselves”

          Free agents don’t wait in the manner you suggest. ALL free agents overprice themselves. Cole, Stras, Rendon, Wheeler, Ryu…. There have been very few free agents who have not been declared overpays on MLBTR by the commenters…

          That having been said, I get your point. Once you move beyond the valuable FA’s, it’s harder to swallow the mediocre and poor and sketchy FA’s getting overpaid…

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      • Strike Four

        5 years ago

        We in the real world call them: The Parasite Class

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  20. DTD_ATL

    5 years ago

    I’m thinking a darkhorse team like Oakland scoops him up.

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  21. tjmacari

    5 years ago

    A’s need someome like Harris and a LH 2Bman if they are going to win 100 games

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    • Strike Four

      5 years ago

      They won 97 without them last year, so playoffs no matter what?

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  22. Georgiajeff

    5 years ago

    And the cubs just go dumpster diving.

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    • dynamite drop in monty

      5 years ago

      lol this term gets tossed around so haphazardly

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    • DonB34

      5 years ago

      Please see Pittsburgh Pirates for dumpster diving. Guys actually signed to 25-man spots since 2011:

      Rod Barajas, Erik Bedard, Jeff Clement, Felix Pie, Jonathan Sanchez, Brandon Inge, Travis Ishikawa, Jayson Nix, Corey Hart, Cole Figueroa, Ryan Vogelsong, John Jaso, JB Shuck.

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  23. koon44

    5 years ago

    He will end up with the ChiSox

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    • OntariGro

      5 years ago

      Or a different team.

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    • canocorn

      5 years ago

      As a CWS he could do ad spots for Harris Bank, as long as he doesn’t mind wearing the lion costume.

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  24. Linkster

    5 years ago

    He would be a really good fit for the Reds. But, at his age and the volatility of RP, the money is way too high for the Reds and most teams.

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  25. Natsfan09

    5 years ago

    As a Nat fan, I would love to have him.

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    • Tazbk

      5 years ago

      Agreed. If we could get him on a one year deal even better. Bring in him and Hudson back with Doo that forms a formidable late inning pen. Anything from Rainey, Suero, Elias would then be a bonus. This should be the plan if we don’t get Donaldson. Great starters and build a super bullpen.

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  26. imgman09

    5 years ago

    Good Pitcher but I think Gm’s are shy about Guys with a lot of Miles ala:The Rockies Free Gent Relief Pitchers in2019 etc.

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  27. adkuchan

    5 years ago

    I doubt he is overlooked. His age, the volatility of relievers, and his recent success make him a tough one to pin. On one hand, he was extremely reliable last season, and did a tremendous job throughout all but the last moments of the playoffs.
    On the other hand, he is at an age when relievers (and pitchers in general) often go from great to washed up in the blink of an eye.
    I think he is going to get close to 10 million a year, but how many years will be a sticking point in any negotiation. Younger, more project-able guys will get signed first. Harris will find a home when other options dry up. There isn’t a team in baseball that wouldn’t get better on paper by signing him.

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  28. jvent

    5 years ago

    The Mets should package Familia with D.Smith somewhere than sign Harris and Hudson, or keep Familia and sign 1 of Harris or Hudson

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  29. sigdawg25

    5 years ago

    ok. back to Will Harris. I think he would be a good fit with the A’s.

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  30. Strike Four

    5 years ago

    Harris should get a 2/18 or 2/20 deal with Oakland, he’s better than a bunch of guys in their pen.

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  31. crazylarry

    5 years ago

    The D-Backs could use him instead of bringing out the Gas Can that is Archie Bradley

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  32. yanksallday

    5 years ago

    Paging mr cashman…

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