Padres right-hander Luis Perdomo underwent Tommy John surgery last week, The Athletic’s Dennis Lin reports (via Twitter). As per the usual 12-15 month recovery timeline, Perdomo will almost certainly miss the entire 2021 season.
Perdomo spent some time on the injured list in September due to forearm inflammation, though he returned to pitch one more game for San Diego on September 16 before being sent to the team’s alternate training site for most of the remainder of the season, and he didn’t pitch during the Padres’ playoff run.
Acquired via the Rule 5 draft in December 2015, Perdomo has never pitched above the high-A ball level when he made his Major League debut in 2016, though he showed some hints of rotation-level durability and potential during his first two seasons with the Padres. Unfortunately for Perdomo, shoulder problems set him back in 2018, and he then re-emerged as more or less a full-time reliever in 2019. He didn’t quite fit the normal relief pitcher model given his knack for generating grounders (57.3% career ground ball rate) rather than strikeouts (career 6.7 K/9), but Perdomo posted a solid 4.00 ERA over 72 frames during the 2019 season. Between his forearm issue this season and being shuttled back and forth from the alternate training site, however, Perdomo became something of an afterthought for San Diego.
Perdomo will be eligible for arbitration for the second time this winter, and he already looked like a potential non-tender candidate even before his injury. MLBTR’s Matt Swartz projected (depending on how arbiters view 2020 statistics) a salary range of $1.1MM / $1.2MM / $1.0MM for Perdomo through the arb process. It isn’t out of the question that the Padres could non-tender Perdomo and then re-sign him to a minor league deal as he rehabilitates, or it’s also possible that Perdomo might have to wait until the 2021-22 offseason before landing his next contract.
If he gets out of San Diego, I think he could be a decent swingman. SD just has too many bullpen arms and he’s had some brief flashes of good.
non-tender
*holds envelope up to turban*
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Non-tender.
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Well played, Carnak the Magnificent.
It’s amazing how thorough of a prospect pipeline the Padres have been manufacturing over the past few years. If I’m not mistaken, Perdomo was supposed to be a pretty highly touted player in San Diego, but has been over-shadowed the past few season by the brighter guys. Right now I am especially looking forward to watching Adrian Morejon pitch more. That dude has nasty stuff. Noah Syndergaard of the West coast.
No. He was a rule 5 guy taken from the Cardinals a few years back.
Never really saw minor league time. I dont know why.
He was never “highly” touted.
He had the makings of a back end starter in 2017, many believed that was his career path, but wound up going the opposite direction.
The only person who tried to convince the world that Perdomo was going to be a great pitcher was AJ Preller. Very similar to what he did with Bryan Mitchell.
Not exactly, Perdomo was a Rule V pick up so he was never really a prospect for SD.
Since they plucked him right out of A ball he had a really rough rookie season in 2016, but looked a lot better in 2017, so much so that people were fairly certain he was going to be a solid mid-rotation piece moving forward. The rumor going into the 2018 season was that the Cubs were asking for Perdomo or Lamet as a controllable starter, plus Brad Hand for Javy Baez, but the Padres balked at the asking price.
So while he wasn’t really ever a “prospect” for the Padres, he was somewhat highly touted a few years back after showing potential in 2017. He’s just never really been consistent since then.
That hand trade had more in it.
What? Morejon pitches nothing like Syndergaard. Morejon is more like Julio Urias, a crafty young lefty.
The Urias comparison is fairly accurate except Morejon’s average fastball is like 97 whereas Urias is 94. Urias has better spin rate on his pitches though.
Morejon can pump 100, so he’s not really your traditional “crafty” lefty.
Like you said CNichols, that’s why I said Syndergaard. He’s not right handed, but he is a power pitcher with great movement on his breaking stuff. Now that I look at it, Syndergaard doesn’t seem like a good comp, but IDK who is. Of course when you say power lefty you will immediately think… well… Randy. Though that is a bit to high of a comp for now lol.
yikes, this turned out long but…
I wouldn’t call Urias crafty either. Just 24 but already a seasoned “pitcher” and a legitimate MLB starter. Morejon has a starter’s repertoire as well. It’ll be interesting to see how the Padres view him heading into 2021. Lamet, Clevinger, Davies, and Paddack seemingly have four of the rotation spots locked up, though the first two will be coming off injuries and there are developmental concerns regarding Paddack. The other options are Lucchesi, Patino, Gore, and Morejon. Eight guys but plenty of question marks for a full schedule. My guess is they acquire a starter and use Morejon as a swingman like the Dodgers did last year with Urias.
As a Dodger fan, I’ve learned to be bullish on having as many starting pitchers as possible. At one point in 2018, the Dodgers had four of their five starters on the sidelines, which is when Stripling stepped in and became an all-star. The Padres are fortunate to have so many talented options despite the question marks. But in my opinion, they need to acquire a reliable arm while Morejon, Patino, Gore, and even Paddack settle in. A shame they didn’t make better use of Richards because he could serve that role well.
If they don’t want to spend big. a guy to consider is Julio Teheran on a short-term deal. Terrible for the Angels in 2020, but he had 30 or more starts in each of the previous seven seasons for the Braves and never pitched fewer than 174.2 innings. A good bounce-back candidate who turns 30 in January. Depending on how everything shakes out, I wouldn’t mind the Dodgers taking a look at him.
How about Steve Dalkowski? 5’11”, left-handed and supposedly the hardest throwing pitcher ever. No comparison will be perfect.
Died on April 20. Never made the Majors. Some minor league stats.
IP – 956
H – 664
BB – 1236
SO – 1324
HR – 37
HBP – 37
WP – 145
Peeler worked like hell to get Syndergaard too, but given what the asking price likely was it may be a good thing that it never happened.
Mets will be in a difficult spot when he becomes a free agent after next season. Whatever innings he gives them will be about auditioning for his next contract.
Perdomo is an off brand Lamet. Morejon is not Synderguaard… He is a lefty for crying out loud. Padres fluff is funny but at least you have moved on to a better team to hype up than Arizona.
Padre fan thinks every prospect is amazing like Paddack pitching in spring training called “incredible” fan base outs stock into stats in ST games
Paddack was far-and-away the Padres best starter in 2019. With a 3.33 ERA he was one of the better starters in baseball. He did that as a rookie and using only 2 pitches. It’s not at all shocking that Padre fans would have had very high hopes for him.
Paddack against Dodgers for career 21 IP and 18 earned runs. 2019 he was sent down to minors. “The Sheriff” anything more dumb then giving a guy a nickname that I’d train wreck. Nice wild card start against Cardinals.
He’s probably only going to make about $1M according to the arbitration projections here, but I wonder if they non-tender him for the roster spot.
If they keep him he’s going to eat a 40 man spot this winter when he’s out for all of 2021 until they can move him to the 60 day IL next spring and that doesn’t seem ideal.
I don’t know if this is allowed, but maybe they non-tender him and just tell him they’re happy to re-sigh him in February when they can immediately assign him to the IL and keep him off the 40 man? Of course he’d be free to sign elsewhere but if SD kind of sets up an understanding beforehand maybe they can retain him and use his roster spot this offseason…
That is allowed but isn’t enforceable so if someone else comes in and offers him more $ before he officially signs and he jumps ship the Padres wouldn’t be able to do anything about it.
It wouldn’t send the best message to players the Padres might be interested in. That’s why Alex Wood and Jimmy Nelson signed with the Dodgers (both have been quoted extensively on the topic). They knew the team would be patient and assist them in their rehabilitation. When running a sports franchise or any other business, how you treat employees means everything. If you want the best people, show them respect.
They were patient with Josh Johnson. They were patient with Garrett Richards. They’ve given chances to guys who have washed out in Hand, Yates, Buchter, Stammen in recent memories.
When you’ve proven you’re good at your job teams are more willingly to be patient with you.
Perdomo hasn’t shown what Johnson, Richards, Wood, and Nelson have in the past. Dodgers were patient cause it was high risk high reward. Same with the Padres.
This isn’t a charity. It’s a business.
They weren’t patient with Garrett Richards. He was around for just this one abbreviated season and was banished to the bullpen in September. And he remained there in the bullpen even though the Padres desperately needed a starter.
Wait what? I think you have your facts wrong. They signed him to a 2 year deal before 2019 when he literally couldn’t pitch 3/4ths of the first year.
They basically paid the guy $7.5M to rehab in 2019 in the hopes he would help in 2020. That’s being patient in my eyes
They gave richards 2 years knowing he wasnt going to pitch most of 2019.
That is the definition of patience and commitment knowing you’re only getting 1 year out of a 2 year deal.
Nice try though.
Still screwed up with Richards in the post-season. Good luck with Tingler handling your pitching staff for 162 games.
I honestly never understood the Richards signing. Signed for two years knowing he would be on the DL for the entire first season.
@CNichols
1. Not sure how that has anything to do with my comment.
2. “Respecting” players is how the Giants, Tigers and Royals got in the messes that they are in.
3. Alex Wood signed with the Dodgers after they traded him. Many people would consider trading a player to be “disrespecting” him.
Except he wasn’t on the DL for his entire first season there.
Coming from a guy who roots for Dave Robert’s this reeks of irony. Over under 5 pen mistakes by Roberts in the WS?
@jimthegoat
I wasn’t replying to your comment, I was referring to Cey Hey saying “They weren’t patient with Garrett Richards. He was around for just this ONE abbreviated season…” when they signed him for two seasons just to rehab in one of them. He basically proved the opposite of the point he was trying to make.
I don’t really disagree with your points 2 and 3, it’s a business, teams make business decisions.
Roberts wins. More than 90 in each of his four full years, an average of 100-plus from 2017-19. How many 90-win-seasons do the Podlets have in their entire history? How many winning records do they have? I know the answers to these questions. You probably do too. Your team might be called the Padres, but we know the Dodgers are their Daddy. Good luck to the Podlets filling all those holes this winter. They have quite a bit of work today if they want to survive an entire 162-game season.
Preller gave him 16 mil nice for 1 year essentially
It’s definition of a bad GM doing his blunder moves
It’s AJ Preller logic
He needs to go. Has needed to go for a couple years now.
Its time to move on. Use the roster space on someone else.
Yes, toss the injured guy in the trash in true MagaMan style.
Oh you mean run a team like every other team does? Padres aren’t the only team that non tenders injured players who aren’t effective. But you knew that.
I’m not suggesting they toss him in the trash at all. He’s going to make about ~$1M in arb this next year, but will also take up a roster spot this winter.
I’m suggesting they tell him that they will re-sign him for the $1M in February, non-tender him for the roster spot next month and then bring him back for Spring Training when he can go on the 60 day IL to rehab. They can work it out to control his arb years and he gets a place to rehab, it’s a win-win.
Perdomo has been a Padre forever, or so it seems. He’s unspectacular but reasonably solid and consistent. I never get any of those “Oh $!@& here comes Perdomo” butterflies when he takes the ball like I do with Paddack lately.
As a Dodgers fan, that’s how I’ve felt about Pedro Baez, who I’ve been defending for years. With Baez, it got worse with some of these fans. Kinda like bullying. I don’t get people who boo professional athletes, especially a guy on your favorite team who is struggling. Those are the guys we should support the most. A pet peeve of mine, as is people who boo opening acts at music shows. To people who boo performers: those folks are out there taking chances you wouldn’t have the guts to take.
I look at it this way: The 26th guy on the worst team in baseball is one hell of a lot better ball player than I ever was.
So he’s been pitching with a bad elbow these past couple years? Explains the horrible production. Who knew.
Before this I thought he was going to be non-tendered… now I am sure he will be non-tendered.
We need to start calling this Dr. Frank Jobe Surgery. Tommy John was just a patient, but Jobe was the one responsible for saving more baseball careers than any of us can count. Along with Marvin Miller, he is the most influential non-player of the past 50 years. If Major League Baseball is serious about honoring the game’s history, they will make this change and push for Dr. Jobe to finally be enshrined in Cooperstown. It would otherwise be fantastic if members of the media got the ball rolling.
This is a really good point. Be cool to see it happen
I’m thinking about making it my winter mission. I guess letter writing would be a good start. I don’t know anyone affiliated with the Jobe family. I just like the idea.
Yeah, I’m sure that will catch on just as good as calling Columbus Day, Indigenous Peoples Day has……. Dr. Frank Jobe Surgery just rolls off the tongue….. Ridiculous
Why is it ridiculous? Because you don’t have an appreciation for history? Just call it Frank Jobe Surgery so guys like you won’t get all flustered.
How abut John-Jobe Surgery? I feel Tommy John is still historically significant to the surgery, though I do get your point as well.
No we don’t.
Tommy John was the first player to get the surgery.
The surgery is always in reference to who (which player) is getting the surgery.
Not who is performing the surgery or doing the procedure.
Cite an example of your claim that surgery is named after a player or patient. I’m looking at a list of 53 surgeries named after people. It seems that Tommy John Surgery is the only one named after a patient. Would you like the link?
Regardless, the historically significant person here is Frank Jobe. If the procedure fails, John’s career goes in the toilet along with countless other players in the 45-plus years since. Baseball players continue to benefit from the work of Frank Jobe, not Tommy John.
The surgery is always in reference to who (which player) is getting the surgery.
Maybe I wasn’t clear on what I meant.
The surgery (TJS) is always in reference to who [the player] is getting the procedure done (TJS).
We say Luis Perdomo is getting TJS because he is going to have a similar procedure Tommy John did.
That’s just how it is. It isn’t something that needs to change.
You can call it the Jobe procedure all you want. I’ll still call it Tommy John.
Good luck with your endeavors. Your time youre free to use it how you want.
You still are not clear. You said, “the surgery is always in reference to who (which player) is getting the surgery.” That makes no sense. The procedure was created by Frank Jobe. Multiple procedures, actually, as the surgery Jobe performed on John’s elbow was vastly different than the one he performed on Orel Hershiser’s shoulder. Yet for some reason, both are referred to as “Tommy John Surgery.” Why not get the history right in honor of the man who did the actual work? I get it. You’re a MawaMan so you hate real history. But the whole Mawa thing is about to end in a couple of weeks. So why not end this inaccuracy in baseball as well. MLB is about its history and telling that story. Jobe is a person in the game’s history worth knowing. He has enabled countless players to make millions of dollars that they otherwise wouldn’t.
Hates history.
Yeah, remind me again
Who’s tearing down statues again?
Who’s rewriting definitions of words in dictionaries?
Who’s ignored centuries worth of regimes and social parties?
Who’s ignored the crime bill in 1994?
I could go on but you get the point. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
Also, I’m still going to call it Tommy John Surgery. As will everyone else. So waste your time as you see fit.
Also, I’ve never seen anyone call Herscheisers shoulder reconstruction surgery Tommy John surgery. Considering the fact he tore his labrum and not his UCL. Not sure where you’re getting that fake story from.
I googled Orel Herschiser Tommy john- 0 results. So yeah, doesn’t look like that’s a thing. They do talk about Jobe being the 1st to perform Tommy john…..and shoulder reconstruction surgery. Fake outrage at fake “stories”. Hey wait, I’ve seen this before..
Best of luck to him going forward. Seemed like he had enough potential to be a middle reliever.
Sucks…but hey. Maybe he’ll be better
Good non tender him