The Reds have acquired right-hander Hector Perez from the Blue Jays for a player to be named later or cash, Ben Nicholson-Smith of Sportsnet was among those to report. This move clears a 40-man roster spot for the Blue Jays, who should formally announce outfielder George Springer’s signing soon.
Perez, an international signing from the Dominican Republic, began his professional career as an Astro in 2015, but they traded him to Toronto three years later in a deal centering on veteran relievers Roberto Osuna and Ken Giles. Perez wound up spending most of his Blue Jays tenure in Double-A ball, where he has logged a 4.34 ERA with 167 strikeouts against 91 walks in 163 2/3 innings. He made a brief major league debut last year with a 1 2/3-inning appearance.
FanGraphs’ Eric Longenhagen ranked the 24-year-old Perez 37th in the Jays’ system earlier this week, writing that he “continues to project in relief because of control issues.” Perez can hit 98 mph as a reliever, but despite his velocity and better-than-average spin rate, Longenhagen notes that he had difficulty generating swings and misses on the pitch in 2019.
Wasn’t what I was hoping for when I heard the Jays and Reds made a trade…but we got Springer I can’t complain.
But it does mean they have been talking, this could be a prelude to a much bigger trade! Or at least one can hope so anyways!
Careful what you wish for. ; ) Our asking price is high
Got a notification on my phone about a trade between these two teams and really really got my hopes up lol
This is it! NL Central is ours. Castillo probably PTBNL. This post bought to you by the Sarcastic Font Co.
As a Blue Jays fan, I can assure you it is. He pitched a total of 1.2 innings last year. Should be rested.
NGL, i was expecting a sonny gray trade
Fisher is still safe on the 40-man.
I liked Derek Fisher when he was coach for the Tennessee Titans.
Or Jeff
Hahah, he should go back to the mustache look.
Or maybe stick to basketball.
How?! Lmao they have to be trolling us at this point. He’s one of the worst outfielders I’ve ever seen.
The Jays have faith in him. He will remain on the roster if they can help it. He is useless.
i mean if they like him he can probably clear waivers…
Can’t do that. Must protect great assets.
@cryptonerd
Damn, why did I think it was Derek? Man I feel old. Derek Fisher was a basketball coach right? For some reason I keep getting him and Jeff fisher’s name reversed. I’m embarrassed.
Played for the Lakers I think
Embarrassing self to give others a chuckle is a very swell thing to do!
At least Fisher has Carrie Underwood to support him if the baseball thing doesn’t work out for him
Yeah he was clutch with the Lakers
Opening a roster spot for Bauer
And thereby ending the Osuna saga for the Blue Jays. Giles, besides the injuries, was elite. The other two prospects weren’t what we were hoping for.
It was one of Atkins’ better trades. Especially considering the baggage Osuna had hanging around his neck.
I agree. As a greedy Jays fan it would’ve been nice to see Giles traded in 2019 when his value was highest but elbow troubles got in the way. He’s definitely a guy I would’ve loved to see on the 2021 roster.
Yep. I wanted them to deal him in June before the elbow issues came up. I’d still re-sign him now that the price has dropped. Similar manner to other TJ surgery candidates signing as free agents. Good version of Giles (2019 was great version) is still worth having around in 2022.
Just look at Trevor Rosenthal’s comeback campaign last season. Ken Giles is far from over, Jays should pick him up.
Mock, yeahh, ing yeahh…
Heck yeah, pick him up!
It’d be an odd situation to have Yates closing games with his successor/predecessor already signed for 2022.
It won’t be odd. Yates has to first show he’s over the bone chips and then pitch for a contract. He shouldn’t care and neither should anyone else.
Rosenthal was also historically bad in 2019 in his first season after returning. Let’s not forget that.
Yeah that wouldn’t be odd at all. Or necessarily even true. There’s no guarantee Giles will come back as the closer. But even if it was. Kirby is playing for a much fatter deal. That’s why he took a 1 year deal in the first place. I’m sure he could’ve gotten a 2 year at a similar AAV if he wanted to.
I’m not sure the Jays are smart enough to resign Giles.
Is this the “anchor” for a bigger trade?
Spincinnati
It’s too early to bring another Pérez to town, Reds fans still aren’t over Tony leaving. Ahaha!
(?)
Jays must’ve not been interested …
I’ll see myself out
I wonder if Jays fans would be willing to do the trade if the Reds asked for Bichette plus? They asked the Yanks for Gleyber plus, and they do need an MLB ready SS. So I wonder if they would be willing to part with Bo plus more top or very high prospects to land Castillo.
If the Reds asked for Bichette (forget even adding any top prospects in addition lmao) to get Castillo I’d hang up after laughing for a bit.
Well they did ask for gleyber plus. Obviously homerism will say their SS is better. But similar age/offensive production and contracts. But I’m sure the Reds would hang up first if the blue jays didn’t want to add more to bichette. But take into account the Reds needs right now, they and the cardinals are the faves for the central. No reason to even trade Castillo but if they do it’ll be for more than just Bichette.
okay so they arent trading Castillo.
Bichette has more value then Torres. 5 yrs control vs 4. Has averaged 1 War per 100 abs vs 169 abs.
BTV has a Bichette – Castillo trade almost straight up.
Bichette + Thornton for Castillo
As a Jays fan I would not want to give up Bo .
@ MarkoRock68
Thanks for the reply. This is just a hypethitical I was just thinking of since they supposedly asked for gleyber plus extra. Both gleyber and Bo are going to be superstars if they aren’t already. I’m not really taking their stats into account. Gleyber has basically 2 full seasons over Bo already. They can both rake, are young under team control and both fit needs for the reds
However I’m not sure how much I take into account for BTV. I highly doubt gms and front offices use that as their baseline.
Honestly as a yankee fan I’m really curious to see what else Toronto is gonna do. The objects in the mirror appear closer and Toronto has the room to get a lot closer.
The Jays aren’t trading Bo Bichette for Castillo. Austin Martin is the obvious choice there if the Reds want a SS. Major league ready shouldn’t really matter for the Reds right now if they’re trading Luis Castillo—they’re punting on making a run. That team was a fringe playoff team with Bauer, Castillo, and Gray. Without 2/3 they’re nothing.
That’s not a fair take at all. The Reds offense SEVEREALY underperformed. Their rotation is still fringe top 5 in MLB. It’s obviously not going to be as good, but realistically Bauer probably isn’t going to be nearly as dominant this year either. The Reds are looking to trade guys like Castillo for multiple short term contributors that also have cost control. They’re not dumping him to punt the season. That’s why the asking price is appropriately high. Offer us (or even overpay) with multiple starter caliber players including potential All-Star shortstops or don’t both asking.
Mispelt severely. My bad. Also want to add, I’m sure the Reds are hoping that a real season with a real spring training makes a difference versus the small sample size of bad offense last year. They have a pretty loaded lineup outside of short stop.
I think it’s extremely fair. You also dumped your closer for Noe Ramirez and a bottom 30 prospect. You’re buying the company line. He’s trying to pair back costs—first and foremost. This team certainly isn’t a contender without Bauer + Iglesias. Take off Castillo and things are getting worse. The central is the weakest division in baseball so there’s a chance that you can be competitive there but there’s no hope against any of the other good teams in the NL w/ that club
They dumped one guy, Raisel Iglesias who is paid a lot of money and hasn’t performed at that level for the most part. Amir Garrett is already there as a replacement. The second guy Archie Bradley made a little less sense. However, it’s not some big secret all these teams lost money. The other teams in the Central in similar market situations lost just as much or more in money and now talent. The Reds needed that money to pursue a new shortstop. I have no qualms with that. They also have one of the most forward thinking pitching staffs in MLB. They believe they can find relievers on the cheap. I have no reason to doubt that process right now.
Anyways back to the main point: They’re not selling Castillo or Gray just to sell them. They’re reaching out to see if teams would blow them away with an offer that keeps their competitive window open longer without blowing up the 2021 team. Maybe I speak a little too optimistically, but you’re the total opposite. You act like everything went swimmingly for the Reds last year. Like they reached their maximum potential at 31-29 and lost a few guys and now they’re destined to suck. Their BABIP last year was at a historically bad level. The offense had decent to very good advanced stats across the board and absolutely horrific results. That will regress to the mean. Over 162 games, they’re obviously not the Dodgers or Braves or Padres. We can’t just buy talent to fill our holes this season. We can definitely win the Central and they can definitely go toe to toe with any of those teams in a playoff series with a rotation headlined by Castillo and Gray.
They asked, and the Yanks hung up on them. The Jays would not only hang up on them, they’d block their number after.
The trade proposal was Castillo for Torres, Schmidt, and Florial. The Yankees declined.
Any person in their right mind would decline that deal.
And that’s totally fine. The Reds aren’t going to trade him just to get him off the team. They’re incredibly smart to shoot for the stars.
Lol.. they must not know about Bo
Never know what you’re really getting back, but considering what we gave up, it’s worth the roll of the dice.
The PTBNL the Jays get will end up in the hall of fame. Or if they take cash, the cash will be invested in a stock that goes up 7000%.
That’s not a fair take at all. The Reds offense SEVEREALY underperformed. Their rotation is still fringe top 5 in MLB. It’s obviously not going to be as good, but realistically Bauer probably isn’t going to be nearly as dominant this year either. The Reds are looking to trade guys like Castillo for multiple short term contributors that also have cost control. They’re not dumping him to punt the season. That’s why the asking price is appropriately high. Offer us (or even overpay) with multiple starter caliber players including potential All-Star shortstops or don’t both asking.