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NL Notes: Nationals, Giants, Rockies, Marlins

By Anthony Franco | February 21, 2021 at 3:28pm CDT

Teams contacted the Nationals about third baseman Carter Kieboom this offseason, manager Dave Martinez told reporters (including Todd Dybas of NBC Sports Washington). Kieboom hasn’t found any success at the MLB level to date, but it’s no surprise rival clubs would have interest in the 23-year-old. Washington held onto the former top prospect, who looks like the favorite to open the season as the starter at the hot corner.

More from Washington and other Senior Circuit cities:

  • Stephen Strasburg had a normal offseason, he told reporters today (via Mark Zuckerman of MASNsports.com). The Nationals star right-hander was limited to five innings last season by carpal tunnel syndrome in his throwing hand. Fortunately, the procedure he underwent last summer addressed the issue. The former World Series MVP will be a key piece in the Nats’ hopes of contending in a difficult NL East.
  • Giants president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi discussed the team’s newest addition to the pitching staff this afternoon (via Andrew Baggarly of the Athletic). Right-hander Shun Yamaguchi, who worked exclusively out of the bullpen last season for the Blue Jays, will come to camp as a starting pitcher. The 33-year-old can opt out of his minor-league deal at the end of spring training if he doesn’t make the team, Zaidi said. That’s a rather typical feature for non-roster arrangements.
  • When Rockies outfielder Ian Desmond opted out of the 2020 season, Colorado signed Matt Kemp the following day. With Desmond announcing his intent to sit out in 2021 as well, some speculation had arisen the Rockies could again turn to Kemp, who is back in free agency. Colorado manager Bud Black cast doubt on the idea, though, telling reporters (including Patrick Saunders of the Denver Post) the organization hasn’t recently discussed signing Kemp, even though Desmond had notified the team he was considering opting out a few weeks ago.
  • The Marlins signed Ross Detwiler to a one-year contract in January. Detwiler has started 95 games across his 12-year MLB career (including 12 starts for the 2019 White Sox). However, Miami views the veteran southpaw as strictly a bullpen option in 2021, manager Don Mattingly told reporters (including Craig Mish of SportsGrid). Detwiler worked solely in relief for Chicago in 2020, tossing 19.2 innings of 3.20 ERA/3.90 SIERA ball.
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  1. bravesiowafan

    2 years ago

    Strausburg won’t ever be the same after this last surgery. I’ll be shocked if he’s a league average starter again

    Reply
    • curlydub

      2 years ago

      well then prepare to be shocked

      Reply
    • Luc 2

      2 years ago

      I don’t think we should take you seriously since your a Braves fan. I could literally say, “Soroka won’t ever be the same.” Strasburg has came back from worse. Focus on your own pitchers.

      Reply
      • VonPurpleHayes

        2 years ago

        I think Stras ability isn’t in question, but his ability to stay healthy certainly should be. Max also finally should signs of being human last year. I’d still take both these guys on my team, but there are definite concerns. I could see the Nats being great, but if either of these guys struggles, I could see 4th place as well.

        Reply
      • brodie-bruce

        2 years ago

        @luc 2 braves has a point carpal tunnel is a big deal to mlb players especially pitchers who put a lot of strain on there wrists to get spin on the ball. now i’m not saying straus won’t bounce back and be a tor guy. this could also could make a mid to back end rotation guy still wish the guy best of luck

        Reply
        • Marty McRae

          2 years ago

          Right, and the treatment for it is usually a really minor adjustment that corrects a part of his motion that he had “gotten sloppy with” in the previous seasons – but it’s not really “sloppiness” either, it could be literally millimeters that are impossible for him to even realize are happening. The human body is fascinating, smart players know to adapt and who to help guide them. Nothing to see here.

        • Luc 2

          2 years ago

          @brodie Carpel isn’t major just so you know

        • MartyMcFeminine

          2 years ago

          Marty is an effeminate fat guy, probably raised by some broke single mom. He’s angry at the world because he can’t stop eating cheeseburgers and the cute guys never notice him. World views based on Frank Reynolds, yes, more millennial genius.

          Marty sees carbs, and racism, everywhere he looks. He doesn’t really seem to know much about baseball. His takes are consistently wrong, to the point of genuine embarrassment. He doesn’t really understand statistics or anything else about the game.

          But he’s so extra woke! Isn’t everybody impressed? Let’s make it about politics because everybody REALLY cares about your 20 year old political opinions.

          Based on Frank Reynolds.

        • Not a clever name

          2 years ago

          No way Marty’s mom is broke, she’s been getting tipped $20 a song for years and makes a fortune in the parking lot.

        • xtraflamy

          2 years ago

          This is an uncalled for personal attack. Just stop.

        • TMQ

          2 years ago

          You’re basing this assessment off of what exactly? What previous pitchers have dealt with the same issue and surgery?

        • UKPhil

          2 years ago

          @ MartyMacF. This is simply attempted bullying. If you are a child, stop it. If you are an adult, grow up

      • bravesiowafan

        2 years ago

        Staus wrist issue is major. When your plus pitches rely on wrist movement and wrist strength there is no way not to expect problems whether it’s replicating past numbers or health wise the wrist is going to be a problem carpel tunnel is no small thing

        Reply
    • vtadave

      2 years ago

      I’ll be shocked if you realize how to spell players’ names correctly again.

      Reply
    • lettersandnumbersonly

      2 years ago

      Braves fan attempting to troll Nationals fans. Now THAT’S shocking.

      Reply
      • Marty McRae

        2 years ago

        Braves have made the playoffs 16 times in the last 25 years and not one ring, lol how is that even possible?

        They’re a cursed team til they change their name/imagery, prove me wrong….

        Reply
        • SalaryCapMyth

          2 years ago

          @Marty. Faith can’t be disproven.

        • VonPurpleHayes

          2 years ago

          @Marty Serious questions for you, Would you rather your team win 1 WS in the prime of your life time and never make the playoffs again or would your rather you team consistently make the playoffs but never win the big one (you obviously wouldn’t know they would never win)?

          At first, I think the first choice is the obvious answer, but as a Phillies fan who hasn’t experienced playoff baseball since 2011, I’m starting to think at least the Braves consistently provide entertainment to their fans. Playoff baseball is exciting, even when you don’t win the big one you get a lot of cool moments. The hope of winning the World Series is almost as exciting as actually winning it. So the Braves provide consistent hope. For better or worse.

        • DTDATL

          2 years ago

          Marty, if they were cursed, which isn’t possible, they never would’ve won a championship. Also, if you’re offended by a term of endearment and a tool used by Indians, you’re as fragile ad it gets.

        • Prospectnvstr

          2 years ago

          Some of us are old enough for both. I’m pushing 50. I’ve seen back to back MVP winner Dale Murphy as a kid. Then the run of playoffs starting in ’91 going through the early 2000’s. Yes, that DOES include the “ONLY” World Series Title season of ’95. Yes, I would’ve liked to have seen more. Seeing that long of a competitive window was amazing. Who would’ve thought that John Smoltz would throw 9 shutout innings only to be outdueled by Jack Morris’s 10 shutout innings? That could’ve/ should’ve,would’ve been a clincher in 99.8% of the time. Now the Braves are starting another run.

      • bravesiowafan

        2 years ago

        There should be serious question marks with straus he’s always had health problems. You can’t tell me that your wrist isn’t a huge part of throwing an offspeed pitch. Carpel tunnel ain’t no joke for a pitcher, especially one that relies on stuff

        Reply
    • goalieguy41

      2 years ago

      It’s just carpal tunnel surgery. Pretty simple. Are you a surgeon?

      Reply
      • bravesiowafan

        2 years ago

        Not simple for a pitcher

        Reply
        • Luc 2

          2 years ago

          It is simple. Its worst for a hitter. Check the history. Stop talking, Soroka probably will be bad because he wont be able to plant his foot. Spell Stras right

        • bravesiowafan

          2 years ago

          Look I’m trying to have a convo with you not act like a child. Carpel tunnel is defined as A numbness and tingling in the hand and arm caused by a pinched nerve in the wrist.
          Wrist anatomy, underlying health conditions, and patterns of hand use can contribute to carpal tunnel syndrome. So explain to me how a pitcher who throws an elite curveball gets there power? Ah that’s right thru the wrist. I don’t see how everyone just thinks this is nothing. Carpel tunnel isn’t a joke and lots of people have reoccurring issues with it, let alone a MLB pitcher who relies on heavy spin for two of his out pitches. A little research goes a long way. And a real convo can be had without childish snarky comments. I’m here to chat just like everyone else

    • lordd99

      2 years ago

      And through the eyes of BravesIowaFan, we see the hopes and desires of a Braves fan. Injury and loss of ability to a Nats player.

      Reply
      • bravesiowafan

        2 years ago

        @lorde I don’t hope injury to anyone but I’m a realist healthy concerns have always been this guys problem. Let alone having a messed up wrist where he gets all of his motion for his offspeed pitches.

        Reply
    • believeitornot

      2 years ago

      It wasn’t his elbow or his shoulder so I don’t know why you feel this way.

      Reply
    • thecoffinnail

      2 years ago

      Carpal tunnel syndrome surgery is just wrist surgery. My mom had it done over 20 years ago and after a few months of rehab she said she had movement like she did in her 20’s. Wrist surgeries seem to affect hitters way more than pitchers. If the surgery provided results like my mom’s did 20 years ago it has probably progressed 10x since then. I just don’t see how he would never be the same again. It’s not like it’s thoracic outlet syndrome surgery that pitchers seem to be getting more and more lately. Now that one is a career killer. The only pitcher I can think of that actually prolonged his career with it was Chris Young. He was a soft tossing pitcher who relied on accuracy though. He was the first active pitcher I can think of that got it and the only one that seemed to be effective after it. I don’t see how your mechanics will ever be the same after they remove a rib. Personally, I think I would seriously contemplate retirement rather than having that surgery. Especially after seeing the results of pitchers like Josh Beckett and Tyson Ross after they had it.

      Reply
      • bravesiowafan

        2 years ago

        Correct but when you as a pitcher rely on heavy spin rate where does that come from? Your wrist. How does carpel tunnel happen repeated reps. This won’t go away if he keeps pitching he’s doing thousand of reps more on the same wrist as a normal person would. I just see this as a different case then the common place carpel tunnel ppl seem to think of.

        Reply
    • chiefnocahoma1

      2 years ago

      This really is a minor surgery. I am a candidate myself, and the recovery is 48 hours. I’m not a pitcher, but there’s no reason to presume doom here. I’m glad some folks believe this nonsense so I can get him cheap in drafts.

      Reply
      • bravesiowafan

        2 years ago

        I agree it’s minor for the normal population. But stras isn’t normal he uses max effort for heavy spin on two pitches and does that thousands of times every month. I don’t think the average person would put that type of pressure on something that is commonly reoccurring and many of the statements I keep “getting is oh so in so in my life has carpel tunnel and it’s fine.. “ Ive known someone that had carpel tunnel ruin his pitching career. These guys put so many reps in it’s nothing like the casual person. And this is without brining up stras past injury history. I’m just saying this is being under played.

        Reply
  2. hoff38

    2 years ago

    Is there history on carpel tunnel surgery that players can’t come back as strong? Not a huge fan of Stras and believe he has hard time staying healthy so to me he is not worth his big contract, but not even league average? Doubt that statement.

    Reply
    • Luc 2

      2 years ago

      Not huge history but It isn’t major. He just needs to condition well in ST

      Reply
    • seamaholic

      2 years ago

      Carpal tunnel is not a major injury for a pitcher. He should be fine. His age (33 this year) might get him, but that won’t.

      Reply
  3. Four4fore

    2 years ago

    Rockies should spend Desmond money on pitching.

    Reply
    • dabrewcrew

      2 years ago

      The Rockies should do a lot of things but Montfort will be celebrating the money saved

      Reply
      • seamaholic

        2 years ago

        Of all the things you can fairly accuse the Rockies ownership of, not spending isn’t one of them. They’ve long been in the top half of baseball in terms of spending on payroll relative to their market size.

        Reply
        • 2dmo4

          2 years ago

          Not true

        • Marty McRae

          2 years ago

          They can always spend more – just as all teams can and should, but dont because the owners have hijacked the sport into some dumb money making scam for them, and the brainwashed fans actually cheer them making more money by not spending it on players – players salaries shouldnt even be public if all other aspects of the games economics arent.

          The game would make so much more sense if the unionized active players all owned the means of production (MLB) and all the retired players owned the teams (any team they played on), and then they would hire the top 30 GMs to run the teams based on actual talent and knowledge, not nepotism or other corruption.

        • HalosHeavenJJ

          2 years ago

          So the new owners wouldn’t want to make money? Not a single former player would be out for more?

          Amazing.

    • seamaholic

      2 years ago

      Rockies pitching (starting variety anyhow) is just fine. If they signed the best available, Odorizzi, he’d be their 5th starter. Their issue is MUCH more the lineup, which sucks especially without Arenado.

      Reply
      • dabrewcrew

        2 years ago

        I never said they didn’t spend. I grew up a Rockies fan so I’ve watched it all. This year they haven’t spent one dollar on a major league contract. They got rid of Arenado due to finances. Dahl due to finances. Tulowitzki due to finances. Etc. Bad spending is just as bad as not spending.

        Reply
      • dabrewcrew

        2 years ago

        Also the bullpen was atrocious the last two seasons the pitching is NOT fine.

        Reply
      • DarkSide830

        2 years ago

        better then Gray and Freeland imo

        Reply
  4. TonyGwynnSD19

    2 years ago

    The Giants and Farhan Zaidi putting a lot of effort into the Battle for 4th place in the NL West. LOL

    Reply
    • Luc 2

      2 years ago

      stfu Padres fan. The Giants have won more than the Padres in their whole history. Start talking when you actually do something

      Reply
      • giantsphan12

        2 years ago

        @luc, @tony isn’t a real Padres fan, he just a DB Giants troll. Don’t waste your time on him.

        Reply
      • TonyGwynnSD19

        2 years ago

        @ Luc 2 Good lord, Giants fans. Wow

        Conversation between a Padre fan and a Giants fan:

        Padre Fan: ” Looks like things aren’t going well up there considering that your team has booked 4 consecutive Losing seasons below .500 and probably will book their 5th this season”

        Giants Fan: “WHAT HAPPENED THE LAST 4 YEARS DOESN’T MATTER. WHAT HAPPENS THIS YEAR DOESN’T MATTER………… NONE OF IT MATTERS BECAUSE WE WON THE WORLD SERIES 7 YEARS AGO!!!!!!”

        Reply
        • Luc 2

          2 years ago

          Im a Nats fan lol. Stop talking until you have results, that what I care about mostly

    • Datashark

      2 years ago

      battle for 3rd place with Arizona, as Colorado has spiked the ball for 5th place

      Reply
      • seamaholic

        2 years ago

        No idea why people think the Dbacks are any good. I look at that roster and I see worse than the Rockies. Giants are unpredictable as they’ve signed a bunch of mediocre guys, some of whom might have a dead cat bounce.

        Reply
        • DarkSide830

          2 years ago

          dont have to be that good to be 3rd in a division

        • TonyGwynnSD19

          2 years ago

          #THIS hahahaha

          https://www.si.com/fantasy/2021/02/20/san-francisco-giants-baseball-outlook

  5. Very Barry

    2 years ago

    If teams are calling on Carter Kieboom then you gotta listen and look to make a deal. He ain’t never looked like the elite prospect he has been touted as. He has been awful every time he gets called up. Kieboom and the Brendan Rodgers dude in Colorado. The talent don’t match the hype!

    Reply
    • Natsman1

      2 years ago

      If teams are calling on Carter Kieboom…tranlates into “teams see his potential and will grab him up if the Nats have the impatience of your typical MLBTR poster”.

      Reply
    • Gumbo

      2 years ago

      What? Buy Hi and sell Lo?

      Reply
  6. DarkSide830

    2 years ago

    did anyone realistically think Detwiler would start?

    Reply
    • MarlinsFanBase

      2 years ago

      Nope.

      Reply
  7. sascoach2003

    2 years ago

    Easy to see why the Rockies signed CJ Cron now. Wouldn’t be surprised if they took fliers on recently released Harold Ramirez and Phil Ervin, too.

    Reply
  8. Rsox

    2 years ago

    No DH would mean Kemp playing LF and I’m not sure anyone wants to see that. The Rockies could certainly use more Outfield options, especially in CF. While it’s safe to assume the Rockies will not be in on JBJ, a waiver claim on Guillermo Heredia or a minor league invite for Jarrod Dyson may not be bad ideas

    Reply
    • ahh

      2 years ago

      Maybe Inciarte if the Braves are willing to cover 2/3 of his salary.

      Reply
  9. Spinning Wheel

    2 years ago

    Would Rockies ever reach out to Ryan Braun, if he were even interested? Hoping for no snarky comments.

    Reply
    • Rsox

      2 years ago

      Honestly, i don’t think they would. And Braun really isn’t an everyday Outfielder at this point. Hilliard and Tapia are probably fine for LF but they need a CF option that is not an Infielder (Hampson, Owings)

      Reply
  10. ahh

    2 years ago

    Kemp only made sense for the Rockies in 2020 because they had a DH slot. What they need now is a cheap veteran who can do a decent job in the big OF at Coors. I bet they wouldn’t have let Dahl go had they known Desmond was going to opt out.

    Reply
  11. Curveball1984

    2 years ago

    Desmond is done. Too much time off, and he wasn’t very good when he was active last. Isn’t he the last player drafted/signed by the Montreal Expos left?

    Reply
  12. Mystery Team

    2 years ago

    I see many on here proclaiming Strasburg’s surgery to be simple. I’m no surgeon but I know this, any surgery on anything attached to a pitcher’s arm is not simple especially when that arm is attached to a piece of glass like Strasburg.

    Reply
    • Natsman1

      2 years ago

      He’s recovered from every injury he’s suffered. Including the major ones (TJ, etc). This is minor in comparison.

      Reply
  13. Natsman1

    2 years ago

    Looky. at the bedwetting about an injury which is fixed by a generally minor surgical procedure with a high rate of full recovery. And who’s doing most of the bedwetting? Braves fans who cant even spell his name right. Shocker.

    Reply
  14. MarlinsFanBase

    2 years ago

    I would’ve liked for the Marlins to have added a veteran innings eater. I love our young talent, and understand that we have about 8 or 9 kids that may be taking turns starting games throughout the course of this season, but I would’ve preferred having a veteran in the mix to keep the young pitchers’ innings down even more.

    Are they still looking at Anibal Sanchez? Would be nice to bring him back at this point in his career.

    Reply
  15. Gary R

    2 years ago

    I heard the Nats are looking to trade Strasbourg to the American League. Toronto or Boston.

    Reply
    • Natsman1

      2 years ago

      Yeah and I heard from Sofia Vergara. She wants me to come over for a sleepover.

      Reply

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