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Braves, Brewers Made Pirates “Big-Time Offers” For Bryan Reynolds

By Mark Polishuk | September 28, 2021 at 10:46am CDT

You can add the Braves and Brewers to the list of teams who asked the Pirates about Bryan Reynolds prior to the trade deadline, as The Athletic’s Rob Biertempfel hears from a source that Pittsburgh received “big-time offers” from the two clubs.  Atlanta and Milwaukee join the Marlins, Indians, and Astros as teams known to have at least checked in on Reynolds’ availability, though it sounds as if the Braves and Brewers went a step further with their overtures.

Of course, Reynolds wasn’t dealt anywhere, as the Pirates value the outfielder as a cornerstone of their future plans.  Biertempfel’s report comes within the context of a larger piece about which current Pittsburgh players are most likely to be on the roster come Opening Day, and Reynolds is seen as someone who is “not going anywhere.”  Reynolds’ price tag will start rising this offseason in his first of four (as a Super Two player) arbitration-eligible years, the Bucs have him controlled through the 2025 season, and the team is surely hoping to be back in contention while Reynolds is still producing at a high level.

After a big 2019 rookie season and a sophomore slump in 2020, Reynolds has enjoyed a strong season as the Pirates’ everyday center fielder.  The 26-year-old has hit .293/.382/.505 with 24 home runs over 628 plate appearances, resulting in a 136 wRC+ and 139 OPS+.  While Reynolds’ hard-hit numbers are nothing special, his speed has allowed him to turn even moderate contact into base hits.  As a center fielder, Reynolds’ glovework is either elite (+10 Outs Above Average, one of the higher totals of any player at any position) or slightly below average (-3.2 UZR/150, -2 Defensive Runs Saved) depending on your metric of choice, though the eye test would certainly seem to lean closer to OAA’s analysis.

There’s plenty to like about Reynolds as a contributor both now and in future seasons, which is why it was no surprise that so many teams were inquiring about trades.  The Braves and Brewers stand out as particularly intriguing, considering that Milwaukee has already won the NL Central and Atlanta has a 2.5-game lead in the NL East with six games remaining, so the specter of a Reynolds trade will loom as an interesting “what-if” should either team fall short in October.

Braves president of baseball operations Alex Anthopoulos is no stranger to big deadline moves, and while a Reynolds trade would’ve counted as a blockbuster, Atlanta was hardly lacking in activity.  With Ronald Acuna Jr. gone for the season, Anthopoulos reinvented his outfield by adding Joc Pederson, Eddie Rosario, Jorge Soler, and Adam Duvall.  That quartet has all hit well, helping carry the Braves from a 52-55 mark on August 1 to the brink of a division title.  It is worth wondering if Atlanta’s inquiries about Reynolds led to the notable trade that the Braves did make with the Pirates, landing Richard Rodriguez for Bryse Wilson and Ricky DeVito.

The Brewers had a relatively quieter July than the Braves in terms of sheer volume of moves, though the Brew Crew had the benefit of a much wider division lead, and the team certainly picked up some solid offensive contributors in Eduardo Escobar and Rowdy Tellez.  Installing Reynolds in center field ahead of the Lorenzo Cain/Jackie Bradley Jr./Tyrone Taylor combination would’ve certainly been a huge upgrade for Milwaukee’s lineup, and perhaps solidified the Brewers as World Series favorites.

If the Pirates had been moved to deal Reynolds, it would’ve surely taken an enormous trade package from any team, and it is quite possible Pittsburgh might’ve demanded a premium to send Reynolds within the NL Central.  While the Pirates and Brewers combined on a pair of minor trades earlier this season, swapping minor league depth pieces is a far different matter than sending a star player to a division rival.

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  1. Kewldood69

    2 years ago

    Was trading Reynolds for McCutchen a Farhan Zaidi move?

    Reply
    • gsiants49

      2 years ago

      No, Evans

      Reply
      • The Mets "Missed WAR"

        2 years ago

        I’m wondering what the “Big-Time Offers” were that the Braves and Brewers offered. It’s kind of a let down to read that in the title but not actually be able to learn how “Big-Time” the offers actually were. Everyone has their own opinions so one person’s “Big-Time Offer” could be another person’s weak offer. Since Reynolds is a center fielder under team control for at least 4 more years I am going to go ahead and assume the Braves offered their top prospect Christian Pache because he’s a center fielder too. That alone would seem like a somewhat weak offer for an MLB proven talent like Reynolds. Outside of Pache I can’t even begin to guess what other players the Pirates turned down. I’m glad MLBTR reported this. I think they had to. As far as the person who leaked the news though… It’s always irritating to get a teaser with no details. If you aren’t going to name the players involved maybe you shouldn’t call it a “Big-Time Offer” since that’s only your opinion and you offer no evidence to support a single “Big-Time” player offered to the Pirates. You could be undeservedly making Pirates fans upset with their GM and team as a whole for not making a trade that would fix their entire team when the players offered might not be difference makers anyway.

        Reply
        • goldstar002

          2 years ago

          It would’ve at least included Drew Waters and/or Kyle Muller

        • JAMES JACOBSEN

          2 years ago

          Maybe we should have sent them Will Smith!

        • BobGibsonFan

          2 years ago

          I find it odd a “Trade Rumors” site seldom mentions any trade rumors.

        • The Mets "Missed WAR"

          1 year ago

          If the offer included both Pache as well as waters or Muller the Pirates were dumb to turn that down. 4 years of 1 center fielder in exchange for 7 years of multiple top prospects is a no brainer for a terrible team like the Pirates to me. Maybe though don’t buy into Pache but Muller has looked like he’s going to be a stud left handed starting pitcher. That has a lot of value. If they could have gotten Waters too that’s a steal. It would fill out two thirds of their outfield for a long time and give them a potential TOR ace.

        • bucsfan0004

          1 year ago

          “Big-time offers” = whatever junk they let go for Duvall and Soler.

    • 5TUNT1N

      2 years ago

      No but it is the most regrettable recent memory trade, this and the Beltran/wheeler trade really helped this team slump for the last 5 years!Lets not forget we let Duvall go because we thought he couldn’t play anywhere but 1st, instead trading Reynolds for cutch meanwhile Duvall has hit tons of homers all while playing the outfield.

      Reply
      • jekporkins

        2 years ago

        They let Duval go because he was given multiple chances and couldn’t hit at Oracle Park. There’s a reason he’s bounced around since and the Giants haven’t exactly been leaving messages on his machine. He’s Rob Deer lite.

        Reply
        • padam

          2 years ago

          You get a thumbs up for the Rob Deer reference. Nicely done.

      • Gmen777

        2 years ago

        The Reynolds trade still hurts but I honestly don’t feel the same about Duvall. Duvall was given quite a few opportunities with SF and couldn’t get it done. Glad he’s found his niche in MLB though

        Reply
    • forwhomjoshbelltolled

      2 years ago

      Locally, Huntingdon was savaged for the McCutchen trade and praised for the Archer deal (initially, of course).

      Reply
      • formerdraftpick

        2 years ago

        I don’t remember anyone praising on the Archer move at the time (and looking at the comments on Pirates Prospects). The Pirates fanbase was looking for Meadows to take over right and Baz to be in the rotation one day. People were feeling that they could have gotten a better player with less questionmarks for the same prospect package. I’m sure at the time, GM’s were thinking they would have traded their #1 or #2 starter for the same or less (without knowing what they would evolve into today.) As for McCutchen, I thought they could have received more for him, but in hindsight, after moving Crick, it brings up a lot of questions on the Pirates pitching coaches and way players are used in games.

        Reply
        • Ghost of past pirates

          2 years ago

          At the time of the archer trade most pirate fans were ecstatic over it. The pirates proved that they would make a deal to improve. Although the trade turned bad. Giving up so much. But it showed the pirate base they would do a trade. Unlike standing still in 2015.

        • formerdraftpick

          2 years ago

          I don’t know why they would have been ecstatic. For what they gave up (regardless of what they gave up), you would think they would shoot for a guy who was having an off year with a 4.31 ERA, a 3-5 record.and was only averaging a little over 5 innings per start. It wasn’t a time for a reclamation project.

        • formerdraftpick

          2 years ago

          Can’t change the past (maybe culture cancel it) but at least we can look forward to Roansy Contreras being called up.

        • forwhomjoshbelltolled

          2 years ago

          The local media were literally calling for the Pirates to trade for Archer, by name.

          Lots of “IF the Pirates ACTUALLY cared about winning, they’d trade for someone like Archer” and “Huntingdon needs to stop hoarding his prospects” takes.

          Attendence dropped after the Cutch deal, Nutting panicked and the Archer deal was born.

        • jaash5

          2 years ago

          No we were not… wt the time we were pumped we got archer … but we knew he had some worrisome trends, and when we saw the return… it was universally hated at the time… in fact the vast majority were extremely upset that they made the trade in a team that nobody felt was s true contender when they refused to do that to the 98 win teams…

  2. HubcapDiamondStarHalo

    2 years ago

    “As a center fielder, Reynolds’ glovework is either elite (+10 Outs Above Average, one of the higher totals of any player at any position) or slightly below average (-3.2 UZR/150, -2 Defensive Runs Saved) depending on your metric of choice…”

    That’s a heck of a testimony to the idea that stats are NOT everything. There’s a pretty severe distance between “elite” and “slightly below average.”

    Reply
    • forwhomjoshbelltolled

      2 years ago

      In baseball, the offensive stats are good and the defensive stats are mostly bunk.

      As opposed to hockey, where they are virtually all useless.

      In football, who knows? I don’t have a staff to double check PFF.

      Reply
      • iverbure

        2 years ago

        Stats in baseball are more reliable then fans pretending like watching a guy maybe once or twice in the OF is elite, above average, average, slightly below average or god awful. Furthermore I could put together a better team with stats having never seen any baseball in a year then any fan on here who watches or pretends to watch every game and it’s not debatable.

        Reply
      • UGA_Steve

        2 years ago

        Agreed. Defensive stats are flaky at best. Far too many assumptions made, especially some of the Range formula setups.

        The fact it is included in WAR charts is mind boggling to me. It’s not that defense should not be in there, but the variance across difference metrics just ruins the WAR valuations.

        Starting pitching is worse though. WAR values for starters pitching are just nuts. Anyone trying to tell me Eovaldi is the most important player on the REd Sox just makes me laugh. I know he eats innings but the man has only 12 QS ALL YEAR and he is outpacing Devers and Xander. A guy with 10 wins the whole season is somehow 5.3 wins better than an Average replacement pitcher on that same team .. really? Not buying it.

        Some pitchers might be a it undervalued, just as some defenders, but there is just way too much flex in those numbers. About the only umbers I can take seriously are on the offensive side, and even they have so many unaccounted for facets.

        Reply
      • fasicad

        2 years ago

        PFF grades are like trying to grade someone’s shopping trip without having any idea what they actually set out to purchase.

        Reply
    • positively_broad_st

      2 years ago

      Reynolds has trouble catching balls that he has to track back over his head. It isn’t really a routing issue, so much as trouble getting to the spot. Could be just a step slow for center, a bit of a confidence issue on that type play, poor jumps, or bad positioning. He has no trouble coming in for fly balls, even those that seem unreachable.

      Reply
  3. DarkSide830

    2 years ago

    Is Drew Waters ever gonna get a shot?

    Reply
    • TomahawkChop

      2 years ago

      He’s still very young and very raw. His ETA was ways 2022.

      Reply
    • RunDMC

      2 years ago

      Can it be when we don’t have 4 OFs mostly hitting well so he gets regular playing time and we’re not in a pennant race? Rosario, Duvall, Joc, Soler aren’t long-term pieces but short term, possibly platoon, solutions. Waters is just now finding a rhythm at AAA.

      Reynolds is the player they hope Waters would be.

      Reply
      • iverbure

        2 years ago

        Getting a everyday CF next season will probably be a priority for AA to save Acuna’s legs a bit next year.

        AA seems exactly the type of guy that might gamble on a Buxton big time break out in a contract year. With that said I dunno if you can call buxton a everyday CF given his injury issues.

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        • brandons-3

          2 years ago

          Acuña has played exclusively as a right fielder the past two years. Even though he has the ability to play center, his best position defensively is right.

          Obviously, re-upping Freeman will make or break the offseason, but acquiring a good center fielder will probably be up there. I think it was telling that when the Braves essentially lost their entire outfield, Waters nor Pache got an opportunity at mid-season.

          Between their readiness, Acuña’s injury, Ozuna’s legal issues, and the glut of free agents and/or options from the deadline acquisitions, it will be interesting to see how AA navigates it all.

        • UGA_Steve

          2 years ago

          So many factors for the OF next year

          – will Ozuna be on the books (likely)
          – if so, will there be a DH in the NL to move him there
          – do the Braves try to move him due to image?
          – Duvall is on a $7m mutual, with $2m buyout.
          – My guess is the Braves say yes, but Duvall opts out, so it costs Braves nothing.

          – Pederson is on $10m mutual with $2.5m buyout.
          – My guess is the Braves have to pay the buyout.

          – Do they re-sign Freddy, especially after trading away Ball?
          – This will cut into spending money for OF

          My guess is they bring in a veteran who can play IF/OF again as a backup to Pache or Waters not panning out. Or, do they get crazy and truly give Harris a shot! I just don’t see them trading away top level prospects to bring in a true impact player, or signing anyone big.

        • Benjamin101677

          2 years ago

          I think Atlanta resigns Jorge Soler he would be very productive.

          If the Braves don’t resign Freeman I think the ideal trade candidate would be Matt Olson. Oakland is going have to sell; Olson is left handed power bat good first baseman and lives in Atlanta during the off season.

        • RunDMC

          2 years ago

          If Buxton is to save Acuna’s legs….who saves Buxton’s legs?? Rather: who is the bodyguard’s bodyguard?

        • MountainBraves

          2 years ago

          Zero chance Ozuna ever wears a Braves uniform again. I absolutely believe Duvall returns even if it takes an extension.

        • GETBUCKETS

          2 years ago

          I think they’ll give Soler a contract
          Out of Rosario, Duvall, and Soler I would pick him as well. He has the upside that could compensate for Ozuna.

          Wouldn’t mind Duvall resigning either, depends on what happens with Ozuna.

  4. WildRemote

    2 years ago

    <3 Stearns <3

    Reply
  5. bravesfan

    2 years ago

    He’s a pretty solid baseball player, but I’m glad the Braves didn’t pull a big trade for him just yet. I always hand hesitation for guys that have up and down years early on. He clearly has a super high ceiling, but I’d prefer a little more stability out of him to pull of a classic “big time offer”… of course, what does that really mean…

    Reply
    • RunDMC

      2 years ago

      That patience will have a price. He’s exactly what the lineup needs, fitting the mold of a Markakis-type hitter that can work counts with power and steady defense. Not to mention another Commodore in the lineup to make Dansby tingly.

      Reply
      • bravesfan

        2 years ago

        Oh I agree. But that’s when I don’t mind the “big time offers” … idk … Braves need guys with more consistency … tired of the Dansby’s of the world that are hot and carry the team for a month, then flip and bring a team down below par with his bat. Need more Freddie like bats in the lineup. Maybe not mvp caliber, but we get consistent play out of them.

        Reply
    • joew

      2 years ago

      the sophomore slump happens and almost all of the pirates batters had horrible seasons in a shortened 2020 with a new coaching staff. Just to be fair to B-Rey. He isn’t going to be a generational great like Trout but likely all star caliber for years to come.

      Reply
      • GETBUCKETS

        2 years ago

        Plus you get pitched to differently when your the one guy that is actually dangerous.
        No one outside Reynolds was/is a threat yet.

        Reply
    • Appalachian_Outlaw

      2 years ago

      Same @Bravesfan. I wouldn’t have minded it if the Braves traded for Reynolds, but not at a “big time” price. I can understand the Pirates wanting that as he’s one of their best players, but he’s just a solid piece on a better team.

      Overall I like the route the Braves went this year with Duvall, Pederson, Soler and Rosario. It cost almost nothing.

      Reply
      • joew

        2 years ago

        5.0fWAR… just saying. that is a bit more than a solid piece. Only 14 position players are better than that, and that is with Bryan not being ‘protected’ in the line up. with a low K rate and high BB rate among OF’s. A switch hitter who does well from both sides… just saying.

        If you don’t think he’ll continue that.. well okay.. i can get that, his second half isn’t as good as his first half but the line up is also fairly different in the second half.

        Yeah he probably would have been nice to have for the braves, but the big time price doesn’t make sense for them from eyeballing it.

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        • Appalachian_Outlaw

          2 years ago

          And that’s sorta where I’m at. He had a great rookie year, then a down season last year. That could just be chalked up to the pandemic year. He’s bounced back this season and been tremendous. Is it enough of a sample though? Also is he maybe getting better pitches to hit because the Bucs are often trailing a lot this year and pitchers are just attacking, not so much worried if one guy does some damage? I’d just want to see more before being happy my favorite team gave up a huge haul to get him.

        • cfjohnsn56

          2 years ago

          He had exactly one season (college, MiLB, & MLB), an 18 game AFL stint, where he has hit < .300, before the shortened 2020 COVID season.

          I'm pretty sure that you can chalk it up as an outlier and not as an indicator of what he's likely to do again, anytime in the near future.

      • GETBUCKETS

        2 years ago

        Well he’s also very affordable for a few years ahead
        Could also move him again if Waters/pache prove ready

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  6. matthew767676

    2 years ago

    PIrates should have taken it and sold high. but i might be wrong. depends on their offers

    Reply
  7. bobtillman

    2 years ago

    He’ll be traded to the Rays for Delmon Young.

    Reply
    • Mikehoncho69

      2 years ago

      How original

      Reply
    • Ghost of past pirates

      2 years ago

      And you will br traded for an idiot a moron and 2 future trolls

      Reply
  8. ElGaupo77

    2 years ago

    Brewers wouldn’t have ammo.

    Cherington would like Langeliers and Harris but I bet Braves offered Pache. New ownership is shying away from athletes that struggle w bat.

    Reply
    • RunDMC

      2 years ago

      Waters and Contreras would be a nice get, along with some pitching, knowing ATL is leaning more to Langeliers. If they get Waters, not sure ATL would also include Harris, in addition to a pitching package as well.

      Reply
    • brandons-3

      2 years ago

      Could have been a scenario where they discussed a package of Rodriguez and Reynolds before watering it down to the RichRod for Wilson deal that happened.

      Reply
    • Chris Koch

      2 years ago

      Sure Buddy. Adrian Houser and Eric Lauer would have been enough Ammo. Not all trades involve just prospects. Probably had offered Tyne Taylor in that trade as Reynolds would have made him even more redundant.
      Just an fyi. Brewers prospects have had an outstanding minor league season. There are going to be more top 100 prospects when post season prospect ranks come out. They are graduating guys and seeing ML value left and right. Time to stop under-ranking this franchise. Woodruff, Burnes, Grisham, Hader, Devin Williams, Houser, Tyrone Taylor, Aaron Ashby.

      Reply
  9. leefieux

    2 years ago

    Poor Reynolds…he’s stuck with the Bucs at least for another couple of years.

    Reply
    • Monkey’s Uncle

      2 years ago

      I’d be curious to see if the Pirates approach him about an extension anytime soon. I’m not sure if either side really has a reason to consider one at this point, but it would (for a change) send a positive message to the fans. I’m not holding my breath over it though.

      Reply
    • mlb1225

      2 years ago

      THe Pirates will be fine. They have direction and a good farmsystem. Imo, this rebuild has a different tone to the last, but in a good way.

      Reply
    • joew

      2 years ago

      he may be on the block in 2022. IMO it depends how the prospect looks going into the deadline. If they’re poor then they entertain offers… if the prospects are doing well they hold for a ’23 push.

      Reply
  10. Monkey’s Uncle

    2 years ago

    That’s exactly what the Pirates should be doing when other teams ask for Reynolds: ask for the moon in return, plus a couple of planets to be named later. The worst that happens is that other teams say no. I still think that in a perfect world the Bucs would like to find an everyday center fielder and move Reynolds back to left, so that among other reasons he goes through a little less wear and tear (also keep in mind that in PNC Park, left field is harder to play than right).

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    • mlb1225

      2 years ago

      I like Swaggerty. Guy looked decent at Triple-A, albiet in a very small sample size. He’s a better defender than Reynolds, so I could see him push Reynolds out of CF.

      Reply
      • 3Rivers

        2 years ago

        You like Swaggerty huh? Idk. What kind of hitter is he projected to be?

        Reply
        • joew

          2 years ago

          At or slightly above league average depending on which convenience store you walk out of. just the short film a year or two ago I’ve seen looks about right but his approach looks inconsistent so it might drop off. Then again when i watched Josh Bell early on.. he seemed to be similar.

          His pluses are speed and defense.

          im not a scout, but I feel he is a defense first with a likely around average bat that pops. which would make him a good everyday center fielder that ‘may’ play well in PNC.

          I do think he missed the boat on being a all-star type player that we hoped for.

        • mlb1225

          2 years ago

          I see like a .260/.350/.450 hitter, 15-18 HRS a season with gold glove level defense in CF.

        • Ghost of past pirates

          2 years ago

          Better than trump as president

        • bhambrave

          2 years ago

          TDS. In your head 24/7/365.

      • Monkey’s Uncle

        2 years ago

        Swaggerty is interesting, I agree. It’s a shame he basically had a lost season in 2021.

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      • jimmyz

        2 years ago

        I like Swaggerty too. I think he’s gonna spend a couple months in Indy to get at bats, make up for lost time and make sure his shoulder is fully healthy. Probably get called up sometime in June if all goes well.

        Reply
    • forwhomjoshbelltolled

      2 years ago

      As long as he doesn’t have anything Vazquez like stuff in his closet, that is the right strategy.

      Reply
  11. mlb1225

    2 years ago

    Wasn’t gonna hapen either way. They were asking for the Marlins top 3 prospects, which are all consensus top 50 prospects (per Pipeline and FanGraphs). No way either the Braves or Brewers were going to be able to meet even half of that asking price.

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    • RunDMC

      2 years ago

      No, but not too far off. ATL has pitching that is closer than MIA’s – though MIA’s admittedly has a higher ceiling. ATL also has 3 of their top 4 in the system being OF that could give you a high-ceiling Reynolds replacement, if PIT really wanted Bleday, who seems to be a perfect replacement to Reynolds (both from Vandy too).

      Reply
      • iverbure

        2 years ago

        Given bledays struggles I doubt he’s a main piece going back in any trade at this point.

        Reply
  12. Roy DeMeo

    2 years ago

    So I know this has absolutely nothing to do with this article, but I’m glued to the chair in my office today doing clerical shiz, and I need something to break up the day, or I’m going to go insane. I’m going to throw out there my award winners for each league, and I’d like to see what yours are. Very close races across the board. Who you got??? (2nd place in parenthesis.)

    AL MVP – Shohei Ohtani (Vlad Guerrero Jr.)
    NL MVP – Bryce Harper (Juan Soto)
    AL CY – Robbie Ray (Gerrit Cole)
    NL CY – Max Scherzer (Corbin Burnes)
    AL ROY – Randy Arozarena (Ryan Mountcastle)
    NL ROY – Jonathan India (Trevor Rogers)
    AL MOY – Kevin Cash (Dusty Baker)
    NL MOY – Gabe Kapler (Craig Counsell)
    AL COY- Trey Mancini
    NL COY – Buster Posey

    Biggest Surprise – SF Giants
    Biggest Disappointment – SD Padres (The Mets were a very close second)
    Most Exciting – TOR Blue Jays
    Least Exciting – PIT Pirates.

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    • tiredolddude

      2 years ago

      Thanks for double-tramping on this thread. The listing was one thing and the “least exciting” tag was a nice kick in the nuts

      Reply
      • Roy DeMeo

        2 years ago

        Just being honest. Nothing against the Pirates. Short of Reynolds and Hayes, they just didn’t offer very much this year in terms of excitement or things to look forward to. The Dbacks probably could’ve taken this home as well. The Rangers were pretty boring too. At least with a team like the Orioles, you got to see Mountcastle & Mullins take big steps forward.

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    • FredMcGriff for the HOF

      2 years ago

      @Roy. I agree with everything but AL MVP. I’d say Vlad is the MVP and give Sho a Silver Slugger for AL DH and AL Pitcher. I am not a fan of awarding pitchers MVP awards. Besides that he’s not even the MVP of the Angels if Trout is healthy and on top of everything the Angels are a 4th place currently 74 win team. The Blue Jays are in one of the most competitive divisions in MLB and he is without a doubt Vlad Jr is their superstar. I understand the whole Sho thing, but to me it’s Vlad Jr for AL MVP. Kudos on predicting Ray over Cole as well. I don’t really have a horse in this race I’m a Braves fan, but the Blue Jays look to have a nice future.

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      • Roy DeMeo

        2 years ago

        Hard to say you are awarding a “pitcher” MVP, when talking about Ohtani. While yes, he clearly is a pitcher, this is the most unique pitcher, maybe in history. Accounting for his whole body of work this year, this was a year we have NEVER seen before. 45 HR and a .966 OPS is crazy for anyone, then throw in his pitching stats, and I just think he was out of this world this year. If Vlad wins, I wont be shocked, nor disappointed, as he was an absolute monster, on the most exciting team in baseball. Thanks for your feedback my friend.

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    • vtncsc

      2 years ago

      Im biased, but if Philly doesn’t make post season, Austin Riley is my NL MVP. Harper second. I don’t think you can give it to Soto.

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      • FredMcGriff for the HOF

        2 years ago

        @vtnsc. Riley has finally had his breakout year after many Braves fans were calling to trade him. I don’t think they’d be in first place right now without him. I myself have always been high on Riley (I love power). I don’t think he’ll get many votes since there is a much more popular guy on this team (Freddie) and everyone knows who Harper and Soto are. I think Riley is deserving but lacks the popularity to this point. I imagine Harper gets it this year with Soto coming in a close 2nd place.

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        • Benjamin101677

          2 years ago

          I think Riley would be a good choice for him to get major notice he has to have a huge 3 game series against the Phillies. If he could carry the Braves to a sweep of the Phillies that would get him a lot attention.

          Riley been such a surprise with his .300 batting average and good defense. He has a bright future

      • brandons-3

        2 years ago

        The NL MVP will be Tatis because he has been the media darling for well over a year now. I think Riley will finish top five, but he didn’t have the attention during the first half. He’s got a better shot at the award if he duplicates this next year as he will have been talked about more on the National stage.

        Definitely the Braves’ MVP though. They aren’t here without him.

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      • MountainBraves

        2 years ago

        Without comparative statistics of ALL top contenders Chip has anointed Riley as the top MVP candidate. It’s nonsense. He’s had a great year but I’m not sure he’s even the Braves MVP. The top 3 NL MVP candidates are easily Bryce Harper, Tatis and Trea Turner. Juan Soto will get a lot of votes as will Corbin Burnes. Riley and Freeman will get down ballot votes, as they should. I would probably give them 7th and 8th place votes.

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  13. stretch123

    2 years ago

    If Pittsburgh was smart, they should trade Reynolds for a boatload of prospects. At least 2 elite ones and 3 solid ones with upside.

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    • iverbure

      2 years ago

      Or do the opposite because teams never seem to get good value for guys like Reynolds with that much control see Yelich.

      Reply
  14. joew

    2 years ago

    Braves just don’t have the talent available it would take. Trading multiple of their top 5ish players at this stage in their career would be a bad move for them, even if it is Reynolds… .. If it was a healthy Mike Trout.. well… then you do it 😉

    The Brewers are in a better position to make such a trade with a couple top prospects that could make some sense, and a handful of other prospects that would be reasonable. I don’t know the Brewers system well though. As the post says.. it would take more for the Brewers to make a sell.

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    • iverbure

      2 years ago

      I’m pretty sure the brewers system is bottom 5. They’ve been at the bottom of the draft, and signed a couple free agents that resulted in losing picks and have made trades. That’s a good way to stay competitive but once the pipeline dries up it’s inevitable fall down the standings for years.

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      • joew

        2 years ago

        yeah but they also got some good prospects that fit. a couple 55’s and a 50 or so ‘change’ could be considered fair.. though from the pirates side.. doubt i would do it.

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    • RunDMC

      2 years ago

      3 of the ATL’s top-4 in system are OF. They love Michael Harris, have Acuna. If they can get someone to turn Pache or Waters (plus) into Reynolds — they sacrifice some depth, especially if it means using some of those pitching resources (not unlike Bryse Wilson to get Rich Rod).

      Reply
  15. SteveGoGiants21!

    2 years ago

    So glad giants got rid of Evans. Gave up wheeler/Duvall/Reynolds all for rentals! Just imagine if we had these guys still with us! 120 plus wins for sure!

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  16. Buccrazy

    2 years ago

    How long they hold onto Reynolds will be telling. Not ready to make his plaque for Cooperstown just yet. In the covid year, he was awful. He seems to be struggling a bit now down the stretch. I wouldn’t expect him to be traded before next offseason at the earliest. If he has a big year and gets dealt, its quite possible they think he has maxed out his value. If they think the rebuild is behind, he could also be shipped out at any time after that. He is not a BC guy remember. Huntingdon traded for him. The GMs tend to like their own players a little more.

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    • joew

      2 years ago

      I do think struggling down the stretch is a bit over blown. yeah worse than the first half but sill since 8/1/21 he has an 850ish OPS. So not like he is a slouch. his Andy Van Slyke type catches in the second half … whew…

      a bunch of 0 for’s has pulled him down from his first half. IMO .850-900 OPS is where i would expect him to be.

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  17. Don'tComeBacktoATLFreeman

    2 years ago

    Doubt the Braves made any relevant offer for Reynolds. We hear this every season.

    Personally, I’d let Duvall walk. People are blinded by the home runs but ignore everything else. He is not a good hitter and not worth the money.

    All 4 new guys will likely get offers from other teams, so, unfortunately, the Braves will likely have to settle with 1 or maybe 2 of these guys. Ideally for me, reattempt a trade for Reynolds, trade for Buxton, and keep Peterson and Soler (Acuna might not be back til later). The Braves still need a bench, so it makes sense to keep some along.

    Trade Waters, Pache, whomever….none of them are good.

    Reply
  18. SportsFan0000

    2 years ago

    Empty headline. How does anyone know if “big time offers” were made without naming the players involved?!

    Reply

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