This morning, Giants president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi addressed the club’s priorities ahead of what’s sure to be a busy offseason (via Alex Pavlovic of NBC Sports Bay Area and Andrew Baggarly of the Athletic). Zaidi made clear the team regards its starting rotation as its “number one priority.” The Giants’ president also effectively confirmed they intend to bring back Buster Posey (by at least exercising his $22MM club option) and hope to re-sign Brandon Belt for what would be his twelfth season in San Francisco.
That the Giants intend to focus their offseason attention on addressing their needs in the rotation comes as no surprise. Presuming they pay Johnny Cueto’s $5MM buyout rather than pick up his $22MM option, four of the five members of a group that led the club to a 3.44 rotation ERA (Kevin Gausman, Anthony DeSclafani, Alex Wood, and Cueto) are set to hit free agency. Only breakout star Logan Webb, who won’t reach free agency until at least 2026, remains under team control.
Zaidi made clear he hopes to bring back at least some of this year’s rotation, stating that “we want to keep as much of this group together as we can,” but he’ll face stiff competition for several of the arms in question. Gausman figures to be among the top starters on the market (alongside Max Scherzer, Robbie Ray, and Marcus Stroman) and won’t be eligible for the qualifying offer that might have scared off some suitors after he accepted the Giants’ QO last winter. DeSclafani (who made $6MM in 2021) and Wood ($3MM) are each in line to land much bigger salaries moving forward after each posted a bounceback year in his first season in the Golden City.
Zaidi’s confirmation that the club plans to keep Posey in the mix for 2022 is similarly unsurprising after the longtime Giants backstop put up a .304/.390/.499 line in 2021 after sitting out the pandemic-shortened 2020 season. The club’s intention to either pick up Posey’s 2022 option or sign him to an extension had also already been reported in August by MLB Network’s Jon Heyman, but Zaidi’s comments reiterate the commitment of Giants’ brass to their franchise catcher. Still, as Posey will be entering his age-35 season, any extension is likely to be on the shorter side, perhaps similar to the two-year pact reached with shortstop Brandon Crawford in June.
Belt put up a similarly excellent .274/.378/.597 line in 2021 (albeit in only 381 plate appearances), so the club will likely face some competition in re-signing the first baseman from two of its three 2010’s title teams. Zaidi told reporters today he’d already been in dialogue with Belt’s representation before the season’s end and they still hope to re-sign him.
After a 107-win season that ended in heartbreaking fashion, the Giants’ desire to run it back with a similar squad is certainly understandable. The Giants have largely bucked the youth wave sweeping the game, and whether or not manager Gabe Kapler can deliver the mix-and-match lineup magic of 2021 for another year remains to be seen. Crucially, so does their ability to bring back the bulk of a rotation that put them in position to lead the big leagues in wins.
Glad some of these Giant lifers found a 2nd wind under new management. Bringing Posey back makes me wonder about Bart. If the NL brings in the DH, it would make them uniquely suited to carry 3 catchers and use Posey more often at DH if Bart shows he can be a good MLB hitter.
Giants got Bounced in the 1st round….Now Zaidi wants bring them all back ? LOL
Says the fan of the team that bounced themselves in May
June not May
Say what you want about Taste Jingler, but he ‘Let the Kids Play’ — themselves right into 3rd place.
Padres signed Eric Hosmer and you are talking about another teams franchise. LOL
Tony Gwynn probably wish he were alive so he could smack some sense into you. But, that probably wouldn’t make a difference. Some people like to continue to be fools. Your team was a complete bust, lol. They were so bad; they had to fire their manager. Weren’t they like 20 games out of even being considered for the Wild Card game.
The Giants won 30 more games than anybody thought they would.
You need to change your alias, again, for like the 40th time. Or STFU until the can field a team that might actually make the WC game.
Hey! They ended up six games ahead of the Rockies! Well… never mind.
Geez, these comments…typical overly sensitive, too many cats in the house, Birkenstock wearing Giants fans
I’ve never owned a pair of Birkenstocks, but if it means being more intelligent than what’s expressed in your typical posts, maybe I’ll try some on, see how I like them..
No , moron loser defacing the name of Tony Gwynn….face the facts nut case, your team more than sucked and the Giants won 109 games
Maybe these fragile hypersensitive Giants fans can speak to Tim about starting some sort group therapy sub thread. Lord knows you guys need it.
@tony You are funny in a very sad. You say the exact same thing in your posts, over your 40+ aliases. You are as predictable as an Atomic clock. Computers show more personality. Cats in San Francisco? The last person I saw with a cat got traded a couple of years ago. It has been 30+ years since anybody sold Birkenstocks in SF. You need to work out your psychological issues somewhere else.
Actually I’m a Dodgers fan that appreciates good baseball and can be objective. In other words, I did not appreciate the Padres this season.
Dude, have you ever worn Birks? I mean, they’re not athletic shoesby any means, but being from near the beach (I assume you are), you’d probably dig a pair. Unless of course, you re too insecure to rock them.
Giants, Lol! 🙂
@tonygwynn Tim who? Why does Tim need a therapy group? Maybe you mean Tim Lincecum? The guy retired years ago. From all accounts, he is living happily.
@ben w. I’m pretty sure he doesn’t live any where near a beach. A dilapidated farm in Nebraska, or Kansas, is more his style. He is hung up on a 40 year old slight. He is definitely a farmer. He is easily in his late 80’s. He really hates baseball. So, he doesn’t live anywhere near Omaha Nebraska.
Dodger fan here, as well. The Giants had a fantastic season, the Padres not so much. Great year for NL baseball.
You’re getting beat up by a bunch of sandle wearing humans. Time to tell mom.
Let Timmy smoke!
Excuse me, last time I checked you weren’t even in the playoffs. Also, the Giants got hosed on soo many calls
The media and their narratives often create images that normalize bad situations (and often create chaos with situations that are good).
The San Diego Padres have not had a winning season since 2010. The last 8 years of that were with AJ Preller running Baseball Ops.
Yet Padre fans talk smack, and fans around the country consider them a high-powered organization and WS contenders the past few years.
@Samuel Tony has never been, nor will he ever be a Padre fan. I doubt he knows where San Diego is. I doubt he even likes baseball. He is all over the map. But, he definitely hates San Francisco. His posts are always the same. I will give him credit for changing his aliases. You should avoid him if you want an intelligent discussion of baseball.
107 wins with those players why wouldn’t you bring them back???
4 games under .500… 28 games behind the Giants. LOL LOL LOL
Not that it wasn’t expected, but it’s nice to hear him talk so openly and directly about their direction, especially before the offseason begins, instead of the typical cut-and-paste GM BS.
Giants have payroll flexibility and the willingness to get better.
Are either of DeSclafani or Wood eligible to receive a qualifying offer?
i believe so, but there’s almost zero chance they offer them one imo. i think they’d both take it in a heartbeat, especially wood.
They spent the whole season with SF and I believe neither has received one previously so they answer would be yes.
Those 2 things alone don’t allow them to qualify
Yes they do.
No, because that would mean every FA that has those 2 things would be able to receive a QO. They have to be a top 150 player I believe?
Sorry, never mind you are right @jimthegoat
Why would you give those two a qualifying offer?
Giants seem to have a lot of payroll space, but it’s a bit deceptive. If they resign Posey and Bryant, and then three new SP’s (they really need four, as they don’t have an obvious prospect ready to go, but out of a few names maybe one pans out as a back of rotation guy) there goes basically all that room and then some.
I liked the Giants & applaud their 2021 season, but please, please keep the DH out of the NL. Give the wash ups over to the AL. Keep the NL pure baseball
Lol those ‘wash ups’ can actually hit, compared to Pitchers who can barely sac bunt anymore.
Check out the Braves pitchers, they can hit, if your teams pitchers can’t hit, too bad. Take your stone gloves over to the AL
OPS of .350 is ‘they can hit’ to you. Interesting point of view.
Even Webb probably did better lol
Actually, I think Sammy Long could be that 5th guy. His stint in the ML was admittedly underwhelming, but That’s not unusual for rookies. He had really good numbers in AAA. The PCL is often misleading for hitters as it’s noted as an extreme hitters league. So when a guy posts a 2.05 ERA in the PCL, even in a small sample (26.1 IP), it’s encouraging. And it doesn’t seem that was an outlier, since he posted a 2.82 ERA over 4 seasons in the minors. Logan Webb was looking kind of clueless last season, and look at how he’s progressed.
And how much you want to bet hjelle is in ST and gets a spot somewhere in the rotation or pen if he performs. The giants will sign pitchers but I wouldn’t be surprised if you get wood back, maybe gausman and if not you are looking at 2 signings for the rotation.
So you are saying they basically need to do the same thing to the starting rotation as they did last offseason, but with $17 Million more to spend because Cueto will go away? Not the worst spot to be in
Webb and Doval weren’t even in the Giants top 30 prospects at the beginning of the season. Doval’s eta isn’t for another couple of seasons. Look how they turned out. I think the Giants probably have a thing or two up their sleeve.
The baseball media that ranks prospects – primarily by looking at spreadsheets – has been so wrong for so long that it’s a wonder people still give them cred and quote them. Pre-season projections on teams and individual players are abysmal. Yet sites such as Fangraphs are quoted each offseason as if they know something.
It’s something to talk about, then forget about by late May.
I’ve long thought of starting a audit type website, in the same way that Mark Halperin started doing that comparing stock pickers results in the 90’s. Most of them were wrong most of the time. His findings were eye-opening.
@Samuel wtf does Mark Halpern have to do with Baseball. When I say Logan Webb was not considered a Giants top 30 prospect, it was based on MLB scouts using the 20-80 scale.
Well, webb exhausted his prospect status before the year started, so that makes sense. But he wasn’t ever a top hundred prospect so I’ll give you that
Three SPs and Posey, maybe Belt, probably not KB.
Where do you suspect KB goes? He was very happy in SF and grew up a Giants fan. He also has versatility that Farhan and Co look for and like to bring in
@PutPete By KB I think you mean Kris Bryant. His versatility is limited to LF, 3rd, and 1st. Luciano is slated for 3rd. Bart is going to spend a lot at 1st. Belt has spent a lot of time in left. The biggest question is how they feel about Longoria. Longoria sat a lot after they acquired Bryant.
I could see him going to Philly. He and Harper are pals and they could use the help.
Belt will never play left field again, Luciano is still two years away and Bart won’t be playing first base for many years; he’s a catcher, that’s what makes him valuable. Are you watching the same team I am?
@Giants74
Yes KB is Kris Bryant. He plays the entire OF as well as corner IF. Luciano isn’t shut off from SS yet, but it does seem like he would make a better 3B. Longoria isn’t likely to stay past next season, especially
if/when KB resigns.
I thought ownership fired the previous GM because he gave too much money to aging players specifically Crawford, Posey, and Belt! Now 3 years later this is the plan? Wasn’t everyone here saying that once these “bad contracts” are off the books that Zaidi would spend some money on some star free agents?
This year was amazing and Zaidi sure knows how to put lipstick on a pig but these teams he builds don’t work come playoffs. It’s like Cinderella at the ball, October is the clock striking midnight. Happened to the Rays again, happens to the A’s when they make it, it happened to LA when Zaidi was there, and now we get to have the pleasure of making the playoffs with no chance of actually winning them.
Great season Giants look forward to seeing 8-9 of you back with the team next year!
Give Zaidi a little more time for the farm to simmer jeesh. From barren to near stacked in 3 years, his farm will start producing big-league talent this upcoming season. He’ll figure out a nice starting staff after Webb because that’s what elite POBO’s do.
Matos is star for OF
And so Pomares
@bud selig fan You must think Donald Trump is brilliant. Why do you xenophobic racists bother posting. Luciano signed with 6 years ago. 75% of Giants top 30 prospects were signed by Bobby Evans. Don’t try and tell me that Luciano became good when Zaidi became PBO. Just because he played in Dominican Republic, didn’t make him a terrible player. Your obvious racist beliefs can’t allow for great players from other countries. You Donald Trump Racist beliefs will ruin America.
Whoa! Whoa! Relax.
There aren’t many bad two-year contracts, and that’s all he gave Crawford, and likely all he will give Posey if they don’t just pick up the option. 5-7 year contracts are what did in the previous regime
They need to move away from Belt unless they can QO him and get a draft pick or get 1 more year that is it out of him.
While a bit dramatic, I tend to agree. The sun, the moon and the stars aligned for this Giants team this season. A lot of the veterans they couldn’t wait to get free from had career seasons (which was great for the franchise) but that doesn’t mean you re-sign them to expensive, multi-year deals. You thank them for their service and move on. Is Longoria still signed for next year or is he a FA too? They need to let Longo go, and possibly Belt as well depending on the AAV and length of contract he is looking for. When it comes to Posey, they should rip up his existing contract and sign him to a 2/$30M deal. Anything more than that would be detrimental to the team. Zaidi really should spend his money on one of Robbie Ray or Scherzer, re-sign Gausman and then fill in the staff with more reclamation projects like he did this year. I’d love to see Scherzer leave LA to go to their arch rivals; it would be great for baseball!
Lastly, let’s not pretend the Giants weren’t good enough to make it to the World Series. One more clutch hit or a couple of fortunate bounces of the ball and it would the Giants vs. Braves right now. That 5 game series with LA was as close as it gets. They had the horses to get it done; they just faltered down the home stretch.
Longoria is signed through 2022. I think Belt has to be the man out, because they’ll toss Buster’s option and sign him through 2023, at which time he’ll retire a lifetime Giant (like Crawford.) Belt, unfortunately, found his groove too late in his career to throw a huge contract his way. Plus, he’s too oft injured. His glove will be missed along with his streaky pop.
They need Bryant’s versatility, they need Gausman back and probably Desclafani or Wood, and they need another everyday bat (Marcus Semien, please!)
That’s a lot of money and, unfortunately, Belt will be too expensive given the innings he’ll be able to play.
@Dorothy_Mantooth
Perfectly said. Everything aligned this season after most of their veterans were DFA candidates just last season.
All of their signings worked out too. This won’t happen again. This was 100% an anomaly.
It’s time they get younger and move on from a few aging vets. Longoria is easily let go. The bargain shopping Zaidi did was great but it will not happen again.
You said everything perfectly.
I was happy to see Dodgers beat Giants but I see nothing wrong with how they assembled their roster. They may not be able to duplicate but plenty of teams would like just one season like that.
@giants4life Maybe you thought wrong.
Or maybe I am right since that’s exactly what happened?? Why is it happening again is the question! Why is the new regime repeating the mistakes that got the old regime fired? Where are the great draft picks and international signings over the last 3 years? Where are the trades for anything other than long shot players? Where are the $$$ spent on superstar free agent talent?? Can Farhan do any of these things or is he just good at polishing turds and finding brilliant coaches to get the most out of them? Imagine how good these coaches would look if they had actual Major League talent to develop!
No pining for a big star signing here. Im a firm believer in the sum of the whole thing they have going on. Absolutely worth giving that approach another year. My guess is the new additions will be humble, hard working guys with a team first ethos.
I’m with you on age – we need more young players and not keeping guys in their 30s. Pass on Belt (he’s going to be 34 next year). Pass on Bryant (he’ll want way too much money for what he’s worth and he’s going to be 30).
I’m not with you on ‘this team doesn’t work in the playoffs.” The Giants took the Dodgers all the way to the end and they had to toss in Max to finish the job. The Dodgers have by far the best team in baseball and the Giants were thisclose to getting to the next level.
The pre 2021 plan was to let most of the veteran contracts expire and the team would bring a couple back at reduced rates and let a couple go. But the veterans, by and large, blew up somehow and the team is now facing having to give expensive contracts to those players. If their production somehow reverts to 2017-2019 levels, well that’s likely to be problematic. Both Crawford and Belt increased their SLG by an amazing 50% and Posey had, by far, his best year in a decade….
tonyinsingapore:
Who’s plan was that? Just because a lot of fans thought that was the plan doesn’t make it so. First of all, this roster is very different from 2017. It has evolved from 2019. Belt, Crawford, and Posey were always candidates to be re-signed.
Belt has been very good over his entire career (125 OPS+). His problem is he’s completely underrated, and unappreciated by fans that can’t recognize value. Who would you replace Belt with anyway?
Crawford supplies superb defense, at a position where defense is the priority. His 2-year deal is perfect, forming a bridge to Luciano. Like with Belt, who would you replace Crawford with?
Likewise with Posey. He plays also plays position where the bat comes second. And if, like in the case of Posey, a team has a good catcher, that can also hit, it’s a major bonus. Bridging to Bart, and having Posey mentor him, will pay dividends down the road.
Lastly, we’re talking about 3 players on roster that will probably have 13 position players. Some guys, will not be back. Dickerson maybe
Longoria is a guy that will not be retained, when his deal is up, and I could even see the Giants eating the $14.6M and him released before his contract is up.
They won’t—and shouldn’t—release Longoria. His glove is still terrific, his bat was awesome until the last injury and he’s signed through 2022 at $19.5M.
Kris Bryant most definitely will be on a team not named the giants ! Thunk Mets or Phillies and giants and the one of those two who don’t sign him will both be better off for not getting the solid but far from a star kB for way to much money’
Boris his agent has a VERY good relationship with Giants
He’s not about to go out of his way to show preference towards the giants ! He’s gonna advise Bryant to get paid as much as he wants and since Bryant maintains him still as his agent he’s likely very much ok with that
It’s not about what Boras advises Bryant to do at all. Boras will do what Bryant wants him to do. If Bryant says, get me the biggest contract he can get, he’ll do that. If Bryant says he wants to play for a particular team, or in a particular location, which some players will, Boras will get him the best contract within the parameters that Bryant has laid out.
Boris relationship with Giants is not because they will go cheap, Boris has a way of “convincing” and Giant put on a SHOW for Bryant where he might not want to leave sf.
Yes but again if you retain boras as your agent right on the eve of free agency it stands to reason you want him to go out there and get you the most money you can possibly earn
He’s going for the biggest contract he can possibly get !
You’re making a huge assumption that the only reason to retain Boras is money. Boras has a reputation as being a great agent, able to negotiate the best deal for his client, and get the player what the player wants. You’re assuming that’s money. Sure, money is a big part of it, but it usually isn’t only about that.
Steve Adams cited the example of Xander Bogaerts, a Boras client, that signed a below market deal with the Sox because he wanted to stay in Boston. If it was all about money, do you really think Bryant would go to the Orioles, or Pirates, even if they offered the biggest deal?
He didn’t test the market then decide to take a little less to stay with Boston , he bypassed free agency altogether with a team he spent all his career with and grew up with ! So not apples to apples ! Bryant is definitely about to test free agency and unless I missed anything he had nice things to say about giants but nothing close to suggesting his decision is gonna be anything but business I.e best offer ! There is no slight hometown discount there is no preference for giants
Again never mind the fact when he signs with Mets or Phillies the team that gets him will regret it instantly!
And reading the links to these articles I’ll stop short of saying the gm openly said Bryant was a rental to add to this years team only but it at a minimum seems to be a major stretch to think he’s a priority for them ! They probably have a price that they would do that Bryant probably won’t and that would be the end of it ! It wouldn’t be no loss he was a nice half season luxury no more no less
While what you wrote is true, that he’s said nothing close to suggesting his decision is gonna be anything but business, but he also has not said, as some players have, that he will go to the team that offers the most money.
Fair enough I just also have went back in read his words and while he was complimentary towards them nothing whatsoever suggest he’s any kind of partial towards them or sees them as some kind of leader for them , he seems very open to any and all suitors Cubs included ! Maybe his market is lukewarm and giants get back in it just think Mets and esp Phillies with Harper ( no matter what he says ) he’s gonna get so much more then he’s worth ! I will be reading your post saying I’m glad giants didn’t pay that price ( if I can assume you are a giants fan ) ! They will make other smart moves ! Truth is I don’t know if he’s more valuable straight up over marte , semein or Castellanos and they all will get a lot less then him !
Well, I am a Giants fan, but you won’t see me saying I’m glad he didn’t sign with the Giants. I hope he does.
Now if I were betting on where he signs I’ll take the field over any specific team. But I think Bryant is incredibly valuable with the flexibility he brings to any team. I’ll take him over both Castellanos and Semien. Marte is another thing though, and the team that gets him will be lucky.
All that a lot fans see are Bryant’s numbers with the Giants, which were good, but not great. But it’s not unusual for players’ numbers to dip when traded. I look at the 130 OPS+ that he had with the Cubs, and think I want that guy on my team.
My feeling on Bryant:
1. Giants need his skills in multiple defensive locations
2. Dodgers may lose Chris Taylor 31 and Kris Bryant 29 would fill in the void even better than Taylor did and 2 years younger.
What about Natasha and Bullwinkle?
Philly needs to spend their money on pitching. They would be insane to eat up another huge chunk of their payroll on one guy
I agree Phillies need pitching way more than a batter
Is there a free agent pitcher or two that definitely solves their issues ? They might as well take a giants approach to filling out the staff behind wheeler Nola and Suarez
The Phillies and Mets both could use all three Giants SPs.
As a Giants fan I hope you are right. He was good but by no means a star. Definitely not worth what Boras will be asking for, and unless he is taking some kind of a discount I don’t think it’s wise to bring him back.
Who is that star Giants should get?
Bryant may not be a .330 40 Hr guy but he brings some grit to the lineup and can play above average defense in multiple areas.
KB loved SF. He, on several occasions, made it clear he was happy with the Giants, plus he grew up a Giants fan
No to Brandon Belt*
$5mm to Cueto
*QO Belt (if possible)
NO QO on Wood OR DeScalini
No on Stroman or Ray
Resign Gausman, Bryant, Flores, Wood
Go after S.Marte, C.Taylor, Pineda SP, Jon Gray
Attempt to lure Scherzer
For fun go after Kershaw
Diamond in Rough (cheapies): José Marmolejos
wow you got it all figured out….NOT
At least am putting something out there for conversation
Its a good post, so it probably doesn’t belong on MLBTR anymore
Agree with a ton of what ya said shark
I’d QO DeSclafani. It’s an overpay but at least it helps set a foundation so they’re not filling 4 spots in the rotation. After he accepts maybe they renegotiate a year or two extension.
If you look at DeScafalini’s overall numbers….look past ERA – go deeper, it will scream he is not quite the pitcher you think. He got alot of the results from a GREAT defense.
I think of all the SP’s he is the one the giants can go on without.
I would take Cueto over him but in reality Giants should take neither.
At the same time, he also was pretty much brilliant against everyone except the dodgers, so his numbers are skewed that way too
Giants have a $3.5M 2022 option on Flores and will absolutely pick it up Agree, adios Belt and Cueto. Agree, resign Gausman, Bryant and Wood OR DeSclafani. (No QOs) and pay Semien whatever he wants.
No on Ray, but maybe on Stroman.
Scherzer will re-sign with LA, as will Kershaw.
There’s a limited number of available starting pitchers and a lot of teams competing for them. The Giants would be in a better position if they can limit their needs before free agency. Yes, a QO for Wood or DeSclafani is an overpay but at least it puts them in a less desperate negotiating position.
Well, not necessarily. I think DeSclafani (for instance) might get a multi-year offer from another team that gives him more dollars than the QO.
I assume Farhan will be looking for trades that bring in young arms that are major-league ready, and it will have to be from a team deep in that talent and weak in position players. For instance, Solano and Bart for Cal Quantril (Cleveland). Or drop Bart and add another slightly less valuable piece for Tristan McKenzie (also Cleveland). Mami is another likely trade partner.
I disagree with you in a few spots. First, Stroman. I think he might be a good addition to a pretty thin rotation. Next, I’m not totally sold on Pineda or Gray. DO NOT go after Scherzer unless you can get him for VERY cheap. He’s 37 and had pretty bad soreness in his arm after pitching the other night. Also, I think they need to resign Desclafani
His first priority should be fixin that yee yee haircut he got. Maybe he’d get some free agents in his DMs if he ever stop messin with that giraffe with the broken thumb or Slothful Brandon
You have to take into account tho most GM’s aren’t into other dudes looks as much as you are
Crawford “slothful?” You’re not watching the same shortstop I am. Maybe Fletcher got in your eye.
As usual Belt detractors have come out. Nobody seemed to be upset that Crawford was extended, or that Posey’s option would probably be picked up, but as soon as a Belt re-signing gets mentioned, the fans are up in arms.
Belt had a 160 OPS+ this season, and a 177 OPS+ in 2020. He hit more HRs than any other Giant, because of changes to the park. So now that the fences are in, and the arcade is closed off, and Belt isn’t punished nearly as much by Oracle Park as in the past, the fans now want to let him walk?
Who are you going to replace him with that’s better? Name one guy that’s available that will hit better than Belt, not to mention provide superb defense.
I’m not sure any of what you say isn’t so. I think the issue is (a) the many CRITICAL needs the Giants have, which will cost a lot of money; (b) there are players who can step successfully onto first base that are already on the roster; and (c) Belt’s age and injuries should be a significant concern. If the Giants can sign him to a reasonable 2-year pact (say, $35M), great. But I think he’ll get more on the open market and he should go for it.
I don’t understand the hype on gausman at all. He had a good year most def but putting him with the likes of scherzer makes zero sense. Any team that gives gausman big money is going to regret it quickly. I’m not buying it.
He was pretty darn good last year, too. He had some rough patches, where he couldn’t command his splitter, but when it was on, it was lights-out.
No one is saying Gausman is at the same level as Scherzer. Most people recognize Max as a future HoFer. I’ve never seen anyone refer to Gausman as that.
But that said, Gausman will be 31, and Max will turn 38 in July. Plus, as it seems to be every year, there are more teams looking for starters than there are available. Given the FA class, Gausman is definitely near the top. He did fade somewhat this season, but that could be from playing a 162 game season on the heels of one only 60 games.
My point is while he had a good year and a decent abbreviated year he was never really anything more then average previous years. So IMO just me me I wouldn’t throw a big contract at him. Same as Braves we’re smart to not meet Detroit’s asking price for Boyd over one great year of work bc well he dropped back to earth.
Pitching is a learned skill. Some guys have overpowering stuff and can contribute right away. But most pitchers evolve over time. To say that Gausman was never more than average is a superficial take. A closer look shows he was not consistent, but there were times when he showed promise.
Plus. he was never really bad, excluding his small sample rookie year and his 2019 stint in Atl, when his lack of innings suggests he might have been injured.
But he’s been above average for most of his career.
And again, look at his 1st, and 2nd half splits this year. Over his first 18 games he had an ERA of 1.73. He faded to a 4.42 ERA over his last 15 games, but that may be because of the long season after a short one.
With the dearth of good starting pitching, a team in need will have to overpay. Gausman is one of the best SPs available. He may not be Max Scherzer, but a team could do a lot worse.
I could see Gausman regressing, but given the Giant’s needs, he fits—as long as he isn’t given anything over 4 years at an AAV more than $19M.
One thing is for sure- the current regime has my total faith that they can pick guys from the scrap heap and help them realize their potential. I’d start looking at guys who were good three years ago who hit a tough patch, find their footing and become all stars at China basin.
I’m glad they are seeking to bring back Belt. As long as it’s a 1 or 2 year deal, he earned it with a career year. As others have said, there isn’t a better known commodity to replace him with. Had he been healthy, he might just have been the X-factor to get the Giants past the Dodgers.
Was Zaidi mum on Kris Bryant? There’s no mention of him in this article. I think that bodes for the Giants moving on. He played reasonably well for them, but is probably viewed as a luxury rather than priority.
Read the article on At Bat today. He mentions KB there.
nobody calls SF the “golden city”
Okay, “Frisco” then. LOL
Boo!
As a Dodger fan I’m fully aware that I may be engaging in some wishful thinking here, but I really don’t see the Giants repeating anything close to what they did this year.
They hit big on just about every signing, and got career years from all of their older players. They were also very, very lucky, parlaying a record number of pinch hit home runs and unlikely victories into one of the more magical seasons I have ever seen. That’s just not likely to happen again. I’d say 90 victories is a good target for 2022, which is still very strong.
All that said, the Dodgers have big questions too, and may be more vulnerable than they have been since they started their current run of success in 2013. And who knows what you’re going to get from the Padres.
My bold, biased prediction is nevertheless a much easier road for the Dodgers in 2022, that’s probably the least certain thing I’ve said in this post.
@drstevenhorn
Well said and exactly how I feel. Everything went right for a team projected to win 75-85 wins at most. Projections are just that.
Most of the time there is wiggle room with projections but nobody had them winning 107 games and finishing with the best record in the MLB with their makeshift roster.
Just about every signing worked out and every one of their aging veterans performed above or at career levels. Some were even DFA candidates and/or bad contracts.
I’m thinking they return to the 80-90 range next season. No way do they repeat this years success. I would probably even bet my years salary they don’t break 100 wins.
It should be an easier path for the Dodgers next season but they also have some flaws to work out as you said.
“I would probably even bet my years salary they don’t break 100 wins.”
Pretty easy to make that bet when you’re currently unemployed (as CONFIRMED by some of your Facebook friends, Gary Jones).
So yeah, your confidence doesn’t really hold up there, chief.
Hey dumb ass @JJJHS. That isn’t my last name. I told you my last name in another thread. Not sure where you got Gary Jones.
Bad at research and baseball knowledge I guess. Anyways my yearly salary is around $60,000.
Nothing to brag about and yes I would probably wager that this team falls back to earth where they belong.
Look for them to fall in the 83-88 win range next season while the Dodgers win 100 plus again.
Everything falls back into place next season and the loaded Padres take 2nd place with 92-95 wins.
Gary Jones….lmfao
@JJJHS
Don’t act like this was the start of a dynasty. It was an anomaly through and through. They won’t even sniff 90 wins next season.
Even their 3 WS wins falls short of a dynasty as they misses the playoffs in 2011 and 2013 and they got in as a WC team one season.
Hardly a dynasty just like this isn’t the start of a dynasty. So move along now little kid.
Missed*
Bruh, you’re a Braves fan. Maybe consider that when talking smack about the Giants LMAOOOO.
And you’re completely unemployed. Your son Spencer told me in a Facebook message. I confirmed it weeks ago.
So quit lying.
Gary Jones, Gary Brown. Same thing.
You’re a forgettable jobless dude committing false valor on a Baseball website. It all adds up the same.
John Jaso, Cecil Cooper. Same thing.
Not really. I mean they are 2 separate people.
Cooper had the better career. It’s not even close. So to assume they are the same people is ignorant. Just as Jones or Brown being my last name is the same thing.
2 different people. 2 different backgrounds.
Oh and It’s Brown not Jones. Not sure where you got Jones from when I literally told you my name and sent my Military documents to statbook.
My last 4 SS# and my last name was on all of my documents. I am still unsure how he thinks I doctored them. Lol.
I even sent my REDD Response which showed my line scores to include my 121 and 112 GT scores on 2 separate ASVABS. He then said he has rarely seen a 121 GT score, and then accused me of falsifying my documents somehow.
I then in 1 email out of the 70+ that we exchanged said “please clear my name now as it’s the right thing to do”.
He then hops on MLBTR and lies and said I begged him over and over again to clear my name. Ask him to email you our entire thread and you shall see he is lying not me. I asked once nicely with a please at the end.
He showed his true character though and lied about me begging. Then told me he wasn’t going to clear my name. I don’t care anymore as I know the truth and everyone who knows me knows the truth.
I didn’t owe either of you anything. Yet still sent proof and still got accused of stolen valor so I don’t care anymore.
If you truly talked to Spencer my son who is deployed in the USAF following in my footsteps, he would have told you I spent 13 or 14 years in the military.
I’m not sure he knows the exact number. But he would have at least confirmed that I served 13+ years.
But since he is deployed and too busy to deal with your drama I’m sure he didn’t respond to you. Otherwise you would know that I served in the military.
I told you Security Forces in the USAF and recruiter in the Army NG. Both are true and correct statements. Whether a non serving individual believes me or not I don’t care.
I literally sent him photos of me in my uniform. My scores and my discharge papers. Yet I somehow doctored them even though each document has the same last 4 and the same last name. Lmao.
That’s pure ignorance on statbook’s part and yours. You guys took something that was none of your business and made it your business and then claimed I was still lying when he literally has all my documents.
As far as work yes I was out of work for a few months due to COVID closing my former store. I have a gap of employment like 70% of the rest of the world. That doesn’t make me a liar.
I took an LPM job a few months back after not working for a few months. So yes I am working FT as an LPM. I make roughly $28 or $29 per hour which is roughly $55,000 per year. Not much in California.
3 days after our last email I seen a job posting for the state of California so I went to apply for it online. It said I had to pass a test first. So I did and got an 85. Without studying.
I literally took it the same day I tried to apply and my gf took the test too. With my help she got the same score as me or very close anyways. Both of us scored above 80.
Within 6 days I had 14 state jobs send me a contact letter and my gf received 3 in that same time span. Yet our scores were very similar. How do you explain that?
I will tell you. I opted for veterans preference bringing my score into the 90’s. So I will automatically go to the top of the list on all state jobs.
Now a month later I am at 22 contact letters to my gf’s 6 contact letters yet she scored 2 or 3 pts lower than I did. I must be lying right?
Nope I sent my score and the entire list of contact letters to statbook who still hasn’t replied.
Maybe because he moved on because a month ago I told him I was done trying to prove myself to him and I wasn’t going to message him again or maybe he seen the proof and realized that I wasn’t lying and took a step back from his false accusations.
Either way I have not lied once. Think what you want. I sent proof when I didn’t owe either of you anything.
Why send proof about being a veteran only to turn around and lie to you about working? Makes zero sense.
Anyways as far as the Giants, well they will fall back to earth and win 83-88 games next season. Probably closer to the 83.
Zaidi literally went dumpster diving and got lucky on all counts. They will not even sniff 90 wins next season as none of their veterans will repeat their 2021 seasons nor will their projects come through again like they did this season.
So move along and enjoy the fact that my 2 favorite NL teams are playing in the NLCS and 1 of my favorite AL teams (Red Sox) are playing in the ALCS.
The Braves are better than the Giants on a year to year basis. Got further than the Giants without their best player (Acuna) and without Soroka.
This season’s anomaly from the Giants hardly counts as them being better than the Braves. If you take the past 5 years or so it’s not even close. This season’s anomaly doesn’t change that. Lol.
I swear one good season over the last 5+ and they are the best team ever. Uh no. Not even the best in their own division.
Both the Dodgers and the Braves are better than the Giants on a yearly basis. Again, one good season doesn’t change that.
Move along chump. I can school you all day about baseball and football.
Gary Jones….lmfao
Giants good….lmfao
@JJJHS
Lastly, the fact that I can pass pretty much any test put in front of me without even studying (DMV test, State Exam, Postal Exam, ASVAB) and score in the mid to high 80’s on all of the tests mentioned and get GT scores of 121 and 112 on 2 separate ASVAB’s, proves that I am book smart or simply a really good test taker.
Either way, I am the one who told statbook to ask my son Spencer about my military service and my employment status.
Isn’t it feasible that with my intelligence level, I would at least cover up any holes in my story if I was lying about anything?
That said, I have not lied about anything but had I lied to you at all, I would have at least told my son to collaborate my story.
The fact that you posted on here that you in fact collaborated with my son that I am unemployed is completely false. Like I said, he is deployed and too busy to deal with your drama.
I spoke to him yesterday and he didn’t mention anyone contacting him about my employment. So I know you are lying. I mean that and the fact that I know I am working lol.
He knows I am working and wouldn’t have told you otherwise. Even if I wasn’t. That said you are the liar and have been all along.
I have been 100% truthful about everything down to my ASVAB line scores. I sent proof snd told statbook to ask my son.
You come back with “your son Spencer confirmed that you aren’t working”. Lmfao. I swear you wouldn’t be the sharpest tool in the shed even if you were the only tool in the shed. Lol.
Nice try, but I got you again. I caught you and statbook in so many lies that I’m done dealing with you guys.
Only one of us is being honest and that’s me. I sent 100% verifiable proof to statbook even when I didn’t owe either of you anything.
Then when I asked him to clear my name and added please just one time he posts on here that “ he begged and I mean begged over and over again”. Lmfao.
No I did not beg. I simply said please because I have manners and I’m the one asking him to clear my name of stolen valor.
Saying please was the right thing to do. Yet still got accused and called out for begging when I didn’t beg at all. He is the fraud not me.
Then you tell me that my son confirmed I wasn’t working. Yet I know that I am in fact working, in addition to the fact that he is too busy to deal with your drama and the fact that I spoke with him last night can only tell a person one thing. You are lying which makes you the fraud not me.
That said, I am done with you and statbook. I was right that the Giant’s would get bounced in the first round they played in. My fantasy team won the championship which paid me $650.00.
Yes I sent proof of that to statbook too but still no response. He must have realized that I was telling the truth and moved on. You should too.
FYI, the Giants will be around 85 wins next season at best. This isn’t some dynasty. Lol.
Anomalies happen all the time. This is 100% that.
Take care JJJHS.
You should probably confront Spencer and ask him why he’s telling me a) you never served and b) you’re currently jobless. I have receipts, Mr. Brown/Jones.
I sense some tension in the Brown family???
And no, the Braves are not “better on a year to year basis”. They haven’t even been to the World Series since 1999. The Giants have been 4 times, and won 3 in that span. They also just finished with baseball’s best record, in case you need reminded.
It’s okay though. I don’t expect someone who pretends to be in the military to suddenly embrace reality. We know you live in a made-up la la land.
Enjoy living off the government teet. It feels good to know you’re the world’s biggest charity case. I actually feel bad for you, mostly because I know that what you are now is the best you’ll ever be. And that’s really kind of sad, Gerold.
Toodles.
“Yet I know that I am in fact working, in addition to the fact that he is too busy to deal with your drama and the fact that I spoke with him last night can only tell a person one thing. You are lying which makes you the fraud not me.”
You should ask your son why he is lying and maligning your character to someone with an anonymous Facebook account.
You should ask him why he feels so strongly against you.
Again, it seems like the Gary Brown household isn’t the golden Shangri-La you make it seem. Maybe your $650 fantasy winnings could invest in some family counseling. You seem to need a lot of it.
First off, the Braves have won their division what 5 straight years. They have a deep lineup and a young rotation. Something the Giants have neither of.
Even when the Giants won their 3 rings they only won their division twice in that 5 year span. Took a WC one season and missed the playoffs the other two. Inconsistent much?
In fact until this anomaly type season they had they hadn’t seen the playoffs in several years and were considered a bottom 10 team in the MLB.
So tell me again how the Giants have been better than the Braves the past 5 to 7 years.
You are a complete joke to think the Giants have been better than the Braves or Dodgers. Perennial playoff teams that when healthy are quite stacked. The Giants have never been stacked. Sorry.
Okay dude you are way off base. My son wouldn’t give a stranger any info and not tell me. We are super close and we talk every other day. He would have told me if a strange guy was asking questions.
I had his wife and my 2 grandkids staying with me and my gf last week when they visited California. I message my son daily and we talk every other day.
Not to mention I know I served 14 years and I have been doing LP for roughly 7 years maybe a bit longer.
Everyone close to me knows this. This includes my son obviously. I am the reason he joined the USAF. Because I was in the USAF.
My son would never tell anyone that I wasn’t in the military because he knows I was. He wouldn’t lie about that or lie to me. You would to save face for being caught up in so many lies just like statbook.
Both of you need to get a life. Neither of you know sports like I do. Especially baseball and football. Neither of you have been correct about anything regarding my military status or civilian employment.
Just give up and move on. The Giants season was an anomaly not a sign of things to come. The Braves have a young lineup and rotation. Something the Giants don’t know about obviously.
Let’s not even talk about the 13 or 14 straight division titles the Braves won starting in the early 90’s.
Honestly they had better teams than the Giants 3 WS teams just as the Dodgers are better than the Giants every year. Winning the WS doesn’t make you the best team. So many intangibles.
The Astros are completely stacked and have been for what 5 years now. But only have 1 ring to show for it. You can’t honestly think this Giants team or their 3 WS title teams are/were better than the Astros teams of the past 5 years.
The Astros had a scary rotation and lineup the past few seasons. The Giants don’t scare anyone. Never have. Not even when they won their titles.
I’m moving on from the Giants conversation because it’s asinine to think they belong in the same category as the Braves or Dodgers or Astros. All three of those teams have had stacked teams that make other teams cringe.
The Giants were underdogs in every playoff series in each year they won the WS and despite winning the most games this season they were underdogs vs the Dodgers in the divisional round this season. They scare no one.
I won’t even entertain the conversation anymore as it’s a moot subject. The Giants are not even in the same category as those 3 teams or the Rays for that matter.
I can name several more as well but the list is too long. But here a a couple teams that have brighter futures than the Giants. The White Sox and the Marlins. Both are young and both are stacked in pitching.
@JJJHS
Not sure who I should feel more sorry for. You or statbook. I literally sent him my military documents yet he thinks they are altered somehow. Wow.
I literally told you my full name and you still got it wrong. Both of you are tools and not the sharp kind.
I served 14 years in the military and I am not going to let some freak take that away from me or question my service. I was honorably discharged from both branches I served in.
That is far more than I can say about you. Do you realize that there are bad veterans out there starting fires and shooting up malls etc?
So if any of them can be veterans why can’t a guy on a baseball site be a veteran? I do not understand your thought process.
My son wouldn’t lie to me. You would to save face. You got caught in multiple lies already just as statbook has. Yet you both continue your shenanigans. It’s really sad. I hope the both of you get the help you need.
I don’t lie. I hate liars. I deal with liars at work daily. Every shoplifter I catch lies to me. I see right through them and it disgusts me. I can’t stand liars. You both need to stop your lying now.
Lying is beneath my standards. I have integrity and I am honest in everything I do. I sent proof to statbook. More than I should have and definitely more than I needed too.
I don’t owe either of you anything. Yet still took the time to round up my military binder and take pictures and then send them via email to statbook.
Every page has my name and last 4 of my SS#. You can’t possibly alter that. Not to mention the other documents I sent him with the same info on them. Like my state exam scores and offer letters.
You guys are clueless. I can see right through your lies. I do that for a living. I have to detect when someone is lying while I am performing my job duties.
Not to mention the fact that I know you are lying because I did serve 14 years in the military, so whatever you are saying or think you know, you are wrong which shows that you are a complete liar.
Let me break it down for you. I know that I served and I know that I am currently a Loss Prevention Manager. I also know my son wouldn’t lie to me or even talk to a complete stranger.
I also know that I have his log in info on FB and could easily verify that he never talked to you.
You see I played War Commander through FB for years. I used his FB account as my second base. Therefore I have his log in info.
I won’t even need to check it though because I know he would have told me during one of our many conversations this past year as he has been deployed since February.
So no need for me to check his FB messages because I trust him. He would have told me if he talked to a stranger that was asking questions about me.
I literally talked to him 2 days ago and I’m about to play COD with him tonight as it’s morning for him.
You don’t know anything and have lied and got caught up in lies to the point that you are trying to get me to turn on my son who is also my best friend.
Just because your daddy doesn’t except you doesn’t mean that all father and son relationships have to be tense. My son and I are very close. You lose again.
Goodbye scrub 1B that had maybe one decent season. Lmao.
Accept you*
More lies. Making it seem like you and your son are close. Everything he has told me suggests the opposite.
You lead a very sad life, Gary Brown. Horribly sad. Your son doesn’t respect you. You make up having been in the military (and forge documents about it), you claim you have a job, despite your son telling me otherwise. This doesn’t even get into the other info that’s publicly available about you. Yikes, dude.
And now, you’re on a website liking your own comments. What a sad, miserable existence.
The truth is, Geraldo, if you were truly done with me, you’d mute me. But you can’t do that. You NEED me. You need someone to give you the time of day.
After all, it must be tough sitting around watching your 4th soap opera episode by 2pm and then walking to the mailbox hoping you get the letter that your food stamp total got upped for the month. I’m guessing this is a nice break for the monotonous, wretched life you lead.
Last. but not least, John Jaso made 16M in his baseball career. He did so with a wRC+ north of 100 for 6 of the 8 full seasons he played and has some of the best hair the baseball world has ever seen.
You’re a balding, overweight slob who sits on a couch suckling the government teet. Have some perspective.
And watch the Astros win in 4.
@JJJHS….lmfao you low life sloth….
I am actually a very fit 50 year old man who is very close to my son. I have a 35 year older girlfriend that I have been with for 13 years. Yes I was 37 and she was just 22 even we met.
She is actually closer to Spencer’s age than mine. So either I am not a balding fat man or I have tons of money or I have a huge dong.
You pick okay? I mean you think I am a balding fat man and that I don’t work so that could only mean one thing right. I mean I pulled a super hot 22 year old girl at the age of 37 and we are still together 13.5 years later.
I swear you have been wrong on every level. It’s almost amusing. Lol. Almost I said, don’t get carried away there Little John.
I am a fit and athletic man for 50 hrs of. I have hair but I prefer to keep it short like I did while I was in the military.
My son and I are very close. So I sm not sure what straws you are grasping for. But you couldn’t have been any further off in your description of me. Lol.
You wouldn’t know what military documents looked like if it would save your life to know what they looked like. So just stop.
I didn’t doctor any paperwork. They all had my last name and last 4. So just stop with your nonsense.
Stop using excuses too. I know a police officer with tics. He shrugs his shoulders constantly every time he shows up at my store to process a shoplifter.
It’s nobody’s fault you didn’t serve so stop looking for excuses and scapegoats. I did serve and everyone close to me knows that I served. Including my son obviously.
My first date with my current gf was my unit xmas party in December 2007. We have been together ever since.
I literally sent pics of me with her to statbook. Wuth be in uniform in some photos. With Brown on my name tag.
The only thing fake here is you and your excuses as to why you never served. No proof, no truth. That’s your rule.
I showed proof when I didn’t need to. So move along kid before I embarrass you further.
My sons name is Spencer Brown. Anyone on here can look him up and ask him if I served in the military. He will obviously say yes.
Because I did and he knows this. Plus don’t you think I would have told him “some strange guy from the Internet is asking if I was military so please just say yes”?.
Also don’t you think I would just log in and check his msgs since I have his log in info?
The fact that you are saying that he answered no tells me you are lying in 3 different ways.
1st – I did serve.
2nd – I am smart enough to make sure he answers yes if anyone asked him.
3rd – I have his log in info so I could literally log in and answer for him.
All that said, I know for a fact you are lying about everything.
I am of above average intelligence and would have covered my story if I was in fact lying about anything. Which I am not because I can’t stand liars.
But if I was lying I would have made sure Spencer answered any strangers in a way that favors me. I literally told statbook to ask my son anything and he can confirm the truth.
It was my idea to have statbook contact Spencer so why would I leave any stone unturned? Why would I not make sure Spencer answers in a way that favors me?
You see if I am smart enough to bring this up to you now, why wouldn’t I have thought about that 2 or 3 months ago when I told statbook to contact Spencer?
Not to mention the fact that I have his log in info for the 5th time. So I could have easily answered anyone back had they contacted him. But the truth is nobody contacted him because he would have told me then had me answer for him.
You have to be the dullest tool in the shed. Lol. No lies told here.
I like my own comments because they are 100% truthful and I thrive on honesty. Not to mention nobody else is posting on this thread anymore so I won’t get the likes my posts deserve.
Oh and the Astros don’t have McCullers so their pitching is thin right now. Both teams can hit but the Braves are going into the WS with the stronger pitching.
It won’t be 4-0 Astros but it could be like 4-2 Astros or 4-3 Braves.
It will be a great matchup of 2 superior teams that have both been great for the last few years.
Glad the overachieving Giants didn’t make it with their dumpster diving roster. How boring is that? Lol.
John Jaso was a subpar 1B who had maybe 1-2 decent seasons nothing more. The best thing about Jaso is the song that the comedian/actor sang in the movie Rocketman.
My gf is 35. She is 15 years younger than me. We met when I was 37 and she was 22. She was my date to my unit Xmas party in December of 2007.
Ben together ever since then. Also she is smoking hot. Something you would know nothing about.
Not bad for an overweight balding 50 year old right? Lmao.
I actually stay in shape and I am above average looking for 50 years old. I still get 25-30 year old females checking me out.
So you lose again. Just move along now.
I proved I was military and that I work snd that I have a hot gf. I sent pics of all that plus my test scores for the state. I also sent pics of the 15 state jobs that reached out to me within the first week of taking the test.
All that said. I’m either super smart or super employable. Meaning a solid resume with accolades.
Dude you lost. Just give up and move on. It’s in your best interest to just move along. I can embarrass you to the point you leave this site forever. So just stop.
I’m done with your lies. I think everyone is.
Even statbook moved on after realizing he was wrong. So just move along. You have nothing to gain here.
You lost weeks ago. I proved that everything I said is the truth. Statbook moved on. You should too as there is nothing more for you here.
You lost man. I showed proof. Gave my sons info for anyone to verify and nobody did. He would have told me. I could just look on his FB but I don’t need to. Because I know the truth.
The thing is I mentioned that I could have logged in and answered for him. Yet you come back with “your son says you never served” lmfao.
You are a complete joke of a non serving individual. So messed up in the head you don’t know right from wrong. Lol.
By now scrub.
I am fit for 50.
Not balding.
Not fat.
Above average looks and intelligence for 50 years old.
My gf is closer to my sons age than she is my age.
I did serve in the military in 2 separate branches over a 13-14 year period.
I have been catching shoplifters for roughly 7.5 years and I have over 300 arrests.
I know all of this and my gf and son know all of this.
I have sent proof when I didn’t need to.
So move along now and worry about your damn self. You will never accomplish half of what I have.
First off the only one lying is you. I don’t lie. Everything I said is 100% the truth. Even verifiable truth. Which I have already done.
Secondly I am smart enough to cover up any lies if I told any which I didn’t. But that only proves that you are lying. Because either way you were gonna reach Spencer who I told “someone may reach out to you regarding my military service” or you were gonna reach me answering for Spencer as I have his log in info.
That said, you were gonna get told I was in fact in the military either way. The fact that you come back with “he said you weren’t in the military” only proves you are lying.
You see I am of above average intelligence. I don’t lie and everything I said was 100% truthful. However I am smart enough to cover up any holes in my story if there were to be any holes.
In this case there are no holes, but just know that I am smart enough to cover up any holes had there been any.
That said, the only answer you would have gotten is “yes he served”. Either from him who had advanced warning or from me logging in as him.
The truth is though that I did serve and he followed in my footsteps. Something you know nothing about. He even joined the USAF because after serving in both the USAF and the Army, I told him the USAF was far better.
He gets his smarts from me so he was able to join the USAF with his high scores. Good choice too. He loves it.
So I can in fact embarrass you to the point you don’t return to this site by telling everyone you are a liar and show proof of it.
So just move on Little John. Robin Hood cannot save you this time. He gave up too after learning the truth.
Oh and Cecil Cooper was about 25 times better than John Jaso who had like 1 decent season in 2012.
I will give you the hair comment as it was wild. But he was not a good 1B. His stats were more in line with a catchers stats than they were with a first base man.
Cooper was the prototypical 1B that teams wanted at 1B.
Jaso had below average stats even for a catcher lol.
So move along now. I can school you all day. I don’t have the time though. So move along now.
Instead of spreading lies you know nothing about just look me up and ask my gf of 13.5 years. She is in a lot of my pics with me.
Ask her if I served 13 years. Ask her if I was Security Forces in the USAF and ask her if I recruited in the Army National Guard.
Ask her if my line scores are high. Ask her if I pass any test put in front of me. Ask her if I actually put together or scrubs ASVAB booklets for recruits.
Ask her if it pisses her off that I can pass a test without studying or even looking at the test content first. It does. She gets so mad that I make it look so easy.
Not why it concerns you so much as it shouldn’t, but she is sick and tired of your BS. So is my son Spencer.
They both said why do you even give him the time of day? You know you served. We know you served. Why do you entertain a moron online?
Good questions from good people close to me. So I am done.
Feel free to ask her and get yelled at for being a moron. She says why do you care what he thinks? Spencer said that too and they are both right.
So move along now kid that can’t serve or wouldn’t serve. I served nearly 13 years and to be honest my gf is encouraging me to go back and finish out my 20.
So I may be going back in to get my retirement. Not sure yet with everything going on in the world. It’s a huge decision to make.
That said, it is my business if I go back or not. It is my business that I served 13-14 years. It is my business that I work as an LPM.
It also my business to win in fantasy baseball and fantasy football. It’s what I do.
It’s apparently also my business to steer you in the right direction and correct you when you are wrong.
For instance the Astros aren’t sweeping anyone without pitching. No ace and no workhorses.
Valdez got shelled. If the Astros win it will be because they can mash. This team is super stacked and far better than any Giants teams WS or not.
The Astros of the last 5 years are better than the Giants 5 year span where they won 3 WS titles. While winning the WS is the ultimate goal it isn’t the tell all sign of the best team.
Same with the NFL SB. It’s the hottest team down the stretch that usually wins. It’s rarely the best team.
The Braves of the 1990’s had 3 aces that combined for 7 young awards during the decade. Yet they only won 1 WS.
That team was better than the Giants during their 5 year run where they won 3 WS and failed to make the playoffs the other 2 years and haven’t been relevant since.
Until this years anomaly type seasons from several of their players. It won’t happen again so it was in fact an anomaly.
Take care scrub.
Gary Jones….lmao
Giants good….lmao
Astros sweep 4-0….lmao
Get a life man….lol
It blows my mind all the Dodger fans who think this is some flash in a pan season, when Farhan Zaidi is DOING THE EXACT SAME THING that the Dodgers did while building their current team.
I guarantee you didn’t think that Justin Turner, Chris Taylor and Max Muncy were just lucky seasons, right? What makes you think that the same guy who was instrumental in bringing those guys to LA and turning them into stars can’t do it somewhere else, outside of blind fandom?
TL:DR version: This isn’t the first time Farhan Zaidi has done this.
It blows my mind that Giants fans think this is the start of a dynasty when they didn’t have a dynasty the 3 years they won the WS with timely hits from scrubs.
No dynasty because they didn’t even make the playoffs in 2011 and 2013 and were a WC in one of their WS runs.
No dynasty here either. Just anomaly type seasons from like 8 players which is very rare and will not happen again.
Look for them to fall back to earth and be in the 83-88 win range next season.
No dynasty here. No lies told. Hooah!
Why would they even think about bringing Belt back the dude is always hurt. He averages just over 100 games played a season let him go it’s okay. I could see if his production was off the charts when healthy but he’s up and down so it’s time to go. I don’t understand Giant’s fans that are wanting him back. Strive for better.
if on QO Belt does well in contract years.
He was better. That’s the thing. I get the injury concern though.
Also seems to be a lot of internal respect for what he brings to the clubhouse.
I’m hoping they can swing something not long term.
So many fans are praising Zaidi for the team he built and the farm system that he inherited. The farm hasn’t improved since he has been here other than players that Bobby Evans acquired have gotten older and better which happens by itself and had nothing to do with Farhan. The players he acquired to put together this team are all below average players who wouldn’t be in the major leagues if not for Zaidi. Yes they played out of their minds all season long but when it counted they turned back into pumpkins. How much more money would it have taken for Zaidi to sign actual major leaguers like Schwarber, Pederson, and Kike instead of relying on Yaz, Solano, Flores, Ruf, Lamont, Tauchman, Estrada, Dubon, La Stella, Vosler, Dickerson, Dugger, and Slater? How much better would those guys have been playing under these Giants coaches? We may never know because Zaidi seems content to scrape the bottom of the barrel for the cheapest options available exclusively. I have been saying this for years but this off-season will be the tell all. If he doesn’t spend this off-season he never will.
Truth right there @ giantforlife.
Zaidi went dumpster diving in the garbage bin hoping it would work and got lucky on nearly every signing and/or trade.
That won’t happen again. They will fall back to earth and finish with 83-88 wins at best next season.
The Giants need some speed and much more youth. I don’t see them winning 100 games with this aging team next season.
If the Giants had August/Sept Belt before the broken thump I think they would’ve advanced (probably been at-bat in place of Flores in game 5 too). His bat and glove are some of the best in the league. The solution there is to offer him a lucrative short(er) term deal. If he can get a bigger longer term deal somewhere else, good for him. He is still an excellent player and a historically great Giant. Make no mistake his presence will be difficult to near impossible replace next season. Plus, as a Giants fan, getting two more good years from Posey, Craw, and Belt would wrap up this era perfectly.
Bryant is star, and a rare mid-season trade for the Giants, it would be so disappointing to see him walk. Both Belt and Bryant will likely be playing in the postseason next year, but will it be in SF?
The biggest loss of all would potentially be Gausman, Giants need to anchor the rotation, and yes Webb has us all excited for what’s to come, but Gausman provides the foundation for a strong rotation moving forward. The Giants usually don’t give massive contracts to free agents, and so I think it is highly unlikely they land the big name free agent SPs. Keeping Gaus would be their best chance at building a competitive rotation for 2022.
Who am I to question Zaidi, he’s proven he knows what he’s doing, but if you read between the lines, Bryant won’t be back. I’m just a fan, but I love what KB brought to SF. Can play multiple positions, great character guy, track record of great post-season performer, & seems to really like playing in SF. Zaidi said he’s not going to get in a bidding war for Bryant, why? In order to get, ya gotta give. SF has the money, go to war for your guy. Lock him down
What’s between the lines saying he won’t be back? As you stated, Bryant really liked SF. He grew up a Giants fan and was thrilled with his time there. He’s from Vegas, too, so he’s fairly close to where he grew up. He, on several occasions, said he was very happy in SF and he loved that there were no egos in the clubhouse. Odds are, there won’t be egos again next season and his feelings haven’t changed for the worse
Between the lines is when Zaidi was asked about Posey & Belt, he said we’re already in contact with their agents. When asked about Bryant he says Bryant was brought in to help this current team (meaning 2021). He goes on to say a lot of teams will be after Bryant & we’d love to have him, but we’re not going to get into a bidding war. Can he make it in clearer for you? As much as it sucks, Bryant will not be back.