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Rays Have Reportedly Made Record Extension Offer To Wander Franco

By Steve Adams | November 18, 2021 at 2:25pm CDT

Wander Franco’s big league career spans just 70 games and 104 days, but Yancen Pujols of El Caribe, a news outlet in Franco’s native Dominican Republic, reports that the Rays have put forth what would be a record-setting contract offer to the 20-year-old shortstop (Twitter thread). Exact terms aren’t known, but Pujols indicates that the offer is at least ten years in length and would land somewhere in the $150-200MM range. That’d go well beyond the eight-year, $100MM contract Ronald Acuna Jr. signed in Atlanta — the current record for a player with under a year of Major League service time.

The Rays are among the many teams who regularly show interest in early-career extensions. That’s largely a necessity for them to retain homegrown stars, given the payroll restrictions ownership places on the front office. That said, while Tampa Bay has had some success in this regard in the past — Brandon Lowe, Evan Longoria, Matt Moore and Chris Archer all signed team-friendly extensions with under one year of MLB service time — the reported terms here would dwarf any contract ever handed out by the franchise, regardless of service time. (Longoria’s second extension — a six-year, $100MM pact — is the current franchise record.)

It’s easy to see why the Rays are so bullish on Franco’s long-term outlook. The consensus No. 1 prospect in all of baseball for two years prior to his debut, Franco burst onto the scene at 20 years of age and slashed .288/.347/.463 with seven home runs, 18 doubles, five triples and a pair of stolen bases through 308 plate appearances. In spite of that youth, Franco looked like he belonged almost immediately — at one point reaching base in 43 consecutive games. That mind-boggling stretch, which spanned from July 25 to Sept. 29, saw Franco post a combined .329/.398/.545 batting line with more walks (9.1%) than strikeouts (8.1%). Franco went on to finish third place in AL Rookie of the Year voting despite appearing in just 70 games.

The Rays waited until late June to call Franco to the big leagues, all but ensuring that he’d avoid Super Two status under the current iteration of the arbitration system (which could change, depending on ongoing labor negotiations). As things currently stand, Franco wouldn’t even be arbitration-eligible until after the 2024 season, and he wouldn’t reach the open market until the completion of the 2027 campaign. A contract of 10-plus years in length would buy out all of Franco’s arbitration seasons and lock in at least four would-be free-agent years — plus any additional option years that could potentially be tacked on.

On the one hand, it’ll be jarring for some to consider the possibility of guaranteeing such a weighty sum to a player with such minimal big league experience. On the other, fans need only look to San Diego to see what waiting until a couple years can do to the price tag on a player of this caliber. Fernando Tatis Jr., who also debuted at age 20 with similarly excellent results, didn’t sign an extension until he had two full years of service time in the books — at which point he secured a record 14-year, $340MM contract from the Friars. It’s hard to imagine the low-payroll Rays ever doling out a guarantee of the magnitude, so it’s understandable that they’d look to act earlier in Franco’s promising career.

Even if the two sides ultimately come to terms on something in this general neighborhood, Franco would figure to be years from seeing his salary spike. He’s currently set to make under $1MM in each of the next three seasons as a pre-arbitration player, and the contract structuring would likely reflect that reality — perhaps promising him a signing bonus and some low seven-figure salaries prior to his arb years before slowly ramping into the would-be free-agent portion of his deal. That would give the Rays cost certainty in the long-term while maintaining the type of early flexibility they still stand to enjoy from MLB’s present-day salary structure.

From Franco’s side of things, it’s a rather fascinating scenario to consider. It’s unfathomable for most of us to ever turn down an overture that would guarantee $150MM or more — particularly at such a young age. Then again, looking to the current free-agent climate in MLB, Franco can see both Carlos Correa and Corey Seager vying for contracts that guarantee them $300MM or more. Talk of a potential extension for 23-year-old Juan Soto, who has three-plus years of service, has elicited suggestions of $400MM or even $500MM.

Franco’s early debut puts him on that same type of earning trajectory — assuming he can indeed live up to the considerable hype surrounding him. He’d reach six full years of service time heading into his age-27 season, the same position in which Correa finds himself now (with nearly $27MM in career salaries already banked). Six years ago, talk of contracts in the $300-400MM range might have seemed far-fetched, but that’s no longer the case. In fact, six years ago, the largest contract ever given to a player with under a year of service time was Archer’s six-year, $25.5MM deal. Suffice it to say, what players consider attainable can change quite a bit in a span of six years.

Of course, forgoing an extension structure of this magnitude could prove overwhelmingly regrettable. Any player comes with the risk of major injury, and as touted as Franco was as a prospect, whether he’ll reach that sky-high ceiling remains to be seen. If he settles in as a quality regular but something less than a superstar, this type of offer may not present itself in future years. It’s also at least possible that current CBA talks impact his earning power for the worse; ownership has already proposed an age-based free agent threshold of 29.5 years (although that was an obvious nonstarter for the MLBPA due to exactly this type of player being harmed). If nothing else, it all makes for a fascinating thought exercise.

To be clear, there’s no indication an agreement is nigh. Quite the opposite, as Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times tweets that nothing appears imminent at this time. Pujols, meanwhile, reports that Franco’s camp is currently studying the offer and is expected to make a counteroffer at some point.

Talk of any major contract issued by the Rays will inevitably lead to some cynical remarks about how soon the player can expect to be traded, and cliche as they may be, such jabs are also rooted in historic precedent. It’s commonplace for the Rays to trade stars away once these early-career extensions feel less like bargains (e.g. Blake Snell, Archer, Longoria), but it’s also important to note that the Rays do seem well-positioned to make such a proposal. Lowe’s contract is the only guaranteed money on the books beyond the 2022 season, and by the time the 2025 campaign rolls around, Tampa Bay doesn’t have a single guaranteed dollar on the ledger.

It could nevertheless be difficult for Tampa Bay to ever commit a hefty eight-figure salary to a player on an annual basis, but if there’s one player for whom the Rays would try to make such an arrangement work, it’s likely Franco.

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  1. FredMcGriff for the HOF

    3 years ago

    Wander should take it. You never know what could happen to your health (major surgery etc) or if all of a sudden he forgets how to hit a baseball.

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    • hyraxwithaflamethrower

      3 years ago

      If you say it’s about $1.5M through his pre-arb years, then say, $7M, $14M, $28M in arb, that leaves 4 years at $37.5M per. That would make this a no-brainer. Only reason for him not to do it is if the new CBA dramatically changes how rookie contract guys are paid.

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      • The Mets "Missed WAR"

        3 years ago

        Franco is great but he’s no Acuna. Why pay him 50 to 100 million more than what a better player makes?

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        • Chipper Jones' illegitimate kid

          3 years ago

          Younger, plays better defense, plays it at a more important position. You are right, though. He is no Acuna. He could be better.

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        • B-Strong

          3 years ago

          Because Acuna got stolen on that contract and left a ton on the table for guaranteed income security.

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        • gbs42

          3 years ago

          “Missed” – Maybe because Acuna signed an incredibly team-friendly deal. And it’s for two years more.

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        • basquiat

          3 years ago

          And without Acuna’s attitude.

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        • vtbaseball

          3 years ago

          LMAO yeah, Franco has no attitude….

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        • Kayrall

          3 years ago

          Neither Fred or hyrax mention Acuna…

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        • timfoolery

          3 years ago

          When considering the younger players, a violent swing and/or hard play has to be a consideration. Acuña pops up constantly with little injuries already, plus the knee. Tatis has a major shoulder concern and has switched positions for it. I don’t see that with Franco. His game is smooth and steady, reminds me of Cano who played most of his career without injury concerns.

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    • mkeyankee

      3 years ago

      …or if he bets on himself he could set record arbitration and FA. If healthy when he hits FA he might be $400m. Food for thought.

      He’ll get paid in his arb years and will be a super 2.

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      • mkeyankee

        3 years ago

        Side note – he is at 1.04 service time so with a full year would miss super-2 cutoff. Probably not by much .1ish. Rays kept him down long enough to make sure of this.

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      • Yankee-4-Lifer 75

        3 years ago

        Yeah Franco would be a fool to take that extension. From what I’ve seen from him already he is a future $500 million dollar player. That guy has all the tools. He can hit everything. It’s scary how good he’ll be if he can stay healthy.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          3 years ago

          it’s an offer. We know Tampa’s m.o. is usually to trade a locked player before the bigger money years. Why not counter with additional money, especially if traded?

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        • iverbure

          3 years ago

          Gotta love the simpletons for calling a player a fool for taking over a 100 million.

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  2. stretch123

    3 years ago

    Good for the Rays. Franco should take the 200M.

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    • BudLightKnight

      3 years ago

      *that moment when you realize Franco was born in 2001*

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      • stretch123

        3 years ago

        Wow that is wild and I feel old. And I was born in the early 90s lol

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  3. Chemo850

    3 years ago

    Man…I think he’s gonna be good, but that’s an insane risk for a team like the Rays to take. I mean, if he ends up not living up to expectations or getting injured often then their budget is literally toast for the length of that contract. Not to mention that I don’t think he’s gonna be as good as Acuna or Tatis (You can’t expect anyone to be). He was solid last year, but he needs to be closer to those guys to justify this.

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    • bross16

      3 years ago

      High risk high reward though. Only paying him maybe 20 mil AAV if he reaches his full potential would be a massive steal and allow them to keep their superstar for once

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      • baseballpun

        3 years ago

        Or trade him for real assets since he’d be below market-value.

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        • gbs42

          3 years ago

          baseballpun – Franco himself is the “real asset.”

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    • yandymania

      3 years ago

      Wander had a better rookie season than Acuna. He is a SS. Pretty close to Tatis. 43 gm on base streak. Hello. More bb than k in that stretch. Hello. All star floor, hall of fame ceiling

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      • SoxRewl

        3 years ago

        Shortlist for GOAT conversation is the ceiling, I would say. The potential is that good. Can’t remember a prospect being this hyped since Bryce (aside from Ohtani but that was a totally different situation).

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        • theloop

          3 years ago

          Vladdy sure was..

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    • Milwaukee-2208

      3 years ago

      all Tatis has done is spend time on the IL

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      • Orel Saxhiser

        3 years ago

        …and make money for the Padres. There are no negatives tied to his contract.

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      • bbatardo

        3 years ago

        Yeah he played a measly 130 games with a 6.6 WAR. Garbage.

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    • Thesecondjamie

      3 years ago

      Yeah but this is the only way they’d be able to have him for a long time. Pay him before it gets too pricy. Otherwise they’d trade him in his final arb season.

      At some point the rays are gonna have to keep players to at least somewhat build a fan base.

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      • Chemo850

        3 years ago

        Yeah, but the thing is that I wouldn’t call this a team friendly contract. At least not from the Rays perspective lol. I mean if a big Market team makes this deal then great. Because if he doesn’t pan out then what do they care? If the Rays miss on a deal like this…I mean it’s basically over. I he only had what? 300 at bats? That’s even less than Tatis had and people thought that was wayy too soon

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      3 years ago

      Both sides would also pay for injury insurance. He seems worth it even if such insurance has gotten expensive.

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    • Dustyslambchops23

      3 years ago

      The X factor is if they are re located or able to split their home games or get a new home stadium

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  4. DarkSide830

    3 years ago

    dont sell your FA years kid

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    • Modified_6

      3 years ago

      Sign for more money than you’ll ever know what to do with after half of a season of very good ball, or go year to year and potentially have a career altering injury or never live up to his initial numbers….

      Yeah, I’d be signing that contract immediately. Even a 10-year contract puts him at 31 or so for the nearest non-contract year. Then go sign for another 5-10 if he turns out to be what people assume he’ll be.

      At some dollar amount, screw getting every penny you can. Sign that generational life changing money and put the ego aside.

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      • SuperSloth

        3 years ago

        Problem is, the article said a minimum of 10 year deal. Knowing the Rays, it’s a 15 year deal so they can spread that money out as much as possible. If it’s longer than 10, I’d pass. I know it’s a huge gamble, but if he thinks he’s as good as he is, go for it. Nothing says they can’t revisit the conversation next offseason when the new CBA has been digested for a season.

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      • Chemo850

        3 years ago

        I’d sign as well. I’m getting 200 million after just 300 at bats of SOLID numbers? Yeahhhh sign me up. It’s very unlikely he lives up to the contract. Possible but statistically unlikely

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    • Modified_6

      3 years ago

      Sign now and make generational life changing money after half a year of great baseball or go year to year and risk a career altering injury or not living up to expectations.

      Yeah, I’d be signing that contract immediately. Even after 10 years, he’d be going into his 31 year old season for his next deal. Then he could sign for another 5-10 years on the open market.

      At some dollar amount you put the ego aside and take the guarantee.

      What are y’all talking about holding out for the big money?? 150-200 million is a whole lot more than big money.

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    • FlytheW1616

      3 years ago

      That’s easy to say when talking about another persons money.

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      • rememberthecoop

        3 years ago

        In fact, so easy to say that he said it twice.

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      • Sideline Redwine

        3 years ago

        Huh. Discussion board. Person makes good points. Logical reply? “You shouldn’t say that”…ironically intimating that he shouldn’t take the money, thus doing the same thing he criticizes someone else for.

        Yep, just another day on the DB!

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        • Chemo850

          3 years ago

          Lol. These are the same kinds of folks who lost their money in bitcoin because they held on for too long out of greed lol

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  5. 48-team MLB

    3 years ago

    This is a good way to kickstart their move to NC (and name change).

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    • DanielDannyDano

      3 years ago

      Ummmmm, Montreal?

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      • Yankee-4-Lifer 75

        3 years ago

        @DanielDannyDano- I feel Montreal would be perfect for the Rays. They obviously need to leave Tampa. They can never let this kid (Franco) kid leave, he would be the face of this franchise for years to come. So much talent!

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      • 48-team MLB

        3 years ago

        Montreal doesn’t need another team unless they expand to 48….or 56. With 40 teams or fewer there are certainly more deserving markets.

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    • rondon

      3 years ago

      Nashville.

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      • 48-team MLB

        3 years ago

        Nashville will be an expansion franchise. The Rays will relocate to Charlotte/Raleigh and change their name.

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  6. ajrodz1335

    3 years ago

    So can the Rays spend on pitchers, and then focus on Wander. Btw I think Wander deserves the contract

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  7. bobtillman

    3 years ago

    Ya, but does the contract pay for French lessons so he can “wander” around St. Catherine’s Street?

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    • Paul Miller

      3 years ago

      Oui, oui!

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  8. Camden453

    3 years ago

    Don’t do it Franco. Test the open market and go for the big time money

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  9. TheGr8One

    3 years ago

    I’ve given up questioning the Rays methods. 100 wins with the 5th smallest payroll earns you that right.

    I also don’t believe he needs to be “close” to tatis to justify this. The pay is 1/2-2/3 of what Tatis makes. Is this kid 1/2-2/3rd the player Tatis is? Sure looks like it if not more. Make that signing if he will take it.

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  10. rhswanzey

    3 years ago

    Very real chance this would cost the kid $200,000,000.

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    • Modified_6

      3 years ago

      Very real chance a bad injury could cost him 150 million if he doesn’t sign…

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    • chetslemons

      3 years ago

      Very real certainty this will make the kid 150 million dollars, or more. He’d be incredibly foolish to turn it down.

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    • Rangers29

      3 years ago

      Or… he could turn into Jurickson Profar and this is 100 mil more than he would’ve ever seen had he not signed it.

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  11. TampaGators

    3 years ago

    He’s an absolute steal even at 10 years 200 mil, no way he takes that. Would be amazing if he did for the Rays though.

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  12. Tacoshells

    3 years ago

    Wow I will take that offer

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  13. lerdky

    3 years ago

    Why in the world would he accept it before the new CBA is (hopefully) agreed upon this offseason. If he signs the contract, but the new CBA happens to have a reduction in arbitration/service time years, then he just left millions on the table for no reason at all.

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  14. Camden453

    3 years ago

    Franco hit .288/.347/.463. Pretty low to zero probability he’ll somehow lose it and not hit

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    • Modified_6

      3 years ago

      Career ending knee surgery, hit by pitch to the face or head resulting in the yips, numbers come back down to earth a little and he ends up being a very good player not a top player, illness that sidelines him etc etc. there are way more ways to lose 200 mil than just becoming a bad player over night, which also happens. The risk of turning down 200 mil is insane to me.

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    • Sideline Redwine

      3 years ago

      Anything can happen.

      Remember Tony Conigliaro?

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      • DanielDannyDano

        3 years ago

        No, but I do remember Dickie Thon. I think that’s pretty close.

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    • traveling man

      3 years ago

      I wish I was negotiating with you.

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  15. KD17

    3 years ago

    Wander Franco is the next face of baseball. He’s better than Acuna, Tatis and may prove to be better than Trout. He probably won’t hit for average like a young MIggy but his speed and defense should make him the most complete player in baseball beginning in 2022.

    Give him whatever he wants and seal as many years as possible. For a small market team to have the best player in baseball is such a rarity that pinching a few dollars isn’t worth it!!

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    • LordD99

      3 years ago

      Whatever he wants? How about a 20/700? He’ll certainly be worth a 35M AAV based on what you wrote.

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    • justacubsfan

      3 years ago

      A lot of confidence and faith in the person not getting injured. Don’t cheapen the work put in by Acuna, Tatis, and Trout. You’re also forgetting Juan Soto. I love Wander, but quit trying to be like Skip Bayless with your hot take.

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      • Orel Saxhiser

        3 years ago

        Hot take? Franco is an astounding talent, just like the other players you’ve mentioned. Locking him up would be an investment for the franchise.

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    • Zonedeads

      3 years ago

      Wander isn’t even close to being a top player let alone the face of baseball.

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  16. LordD99

    3 years ago

    Reject it.

    It will still be an under-market deal that will increase his value in trades.

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  17. phillyballers

    3 years ago

    He’d be 30/31 when he’s up for the next contract. Still young enough, if good, to be a top FA and get another 6 to 10 year deal.

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    • SuperSloth

      3 years ago

      Why is everyone assuming it’s a 10 year deal? The article clearly states that it’s “at least” 10 years. I find it very difficult to believe the proposed deal is anything less than 13 years at a minimum. That would put him around 33 or 34 when he sniffs FA. Also, I keep seeing people talking about 200 million. It says 150-200. I think it’s closer to 150 than 200. The Rays have been smart with their baseball moves, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t also being cheap.

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    • paindonthurt

      3 years ago

      Yes. Still can cash in ar age 30 if he performs above value. If he’s a bust he made a ton of money. I’d do it.

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  18. yandymania

    3 years ago

    larrybrownsports.com/baseball/wander-franco-mlb-de…

    Wander needs to consider how many cars he can buy between now and 27 with 20m per year instead of 500k

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    • Jbigz12

      3 years ago

      That bodes well for TB. If he’s really into the luxury lifestyle—he might want that check now.

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  19. Milwaukee-2208

    3 years ago

    Rays: “are you in the money business, or the baseball business?”

    Franco: “neither…im in the empire business”

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    • rememberthecoop

      3 years ago

      Selling carpeting?

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      • gbs42

        3 years ago

        588-2300…Empire

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  20. PitcherMeRolling

    3 years ago

    Wander could have a HOF career and the most impressive accolade be “Made the Rays spend money”.

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    • Orel Saxhiser

      3 years ago

      The Rays need to do all they can to cash in on this run of excellence. Having a potential superstar long-term would give them more leverage in trying to find a new home and build a loyal fanbase. As a baseball fan, I’d love to watch Franco and Arozarena on a daily basis.

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      • PitcherMeRolling

        3 years ago

        It’d be interesting to see what would change if they relocated and had local fan support.

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  21. BlueSkies_LA

    3 years ago

    With all the talk of the risk of these longterm contracts, it’s seldom to never mentioned that teams routinely insure contracts against the risk of serious injury. No doubt if the Rays make a 10+ year offer to Franco his contract would be well-insured.

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    • JohhnyBets67

      3 years ago

      Yep. Also overlooked as another cost when people discuss payrolls.

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  22. creacher

    3 years ago

    And I’m the Mayor of Mars… yeah ok

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  23. sdbaseballguy

    3 years ago

    If I were Tampa, I play him for 3-4 years and then move him for an ungodly boatload of prospects. They’re in no financial position to take such a risk UNLESS they relocate.

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    • Orel Saxhiser

      3 years ago

      Why do you think a Major League team would be in no position to take such a risk? It’s actually a visionary move with an eye toward the future, similar to what the Padres did with Tatis. These players will be cash cows not only for their respective teams but for the game in general. If I’m marketing my team for a worldwide audience, Franco is absolutely a player I’d want to have,

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  24. Joseph Gonzalez

    3 years ago

    Man only 70 games into his career ? At least wait till he has a full season under his belt

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    • gbs42

      3 years ago

      If he repeats his first 70-game performance over the next 70 games, the price will only be higher.

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    • MikeD26

      3 years ago

      That’s what they said about tatis and now he finished top 3 on the MVP race.

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      • ffrhb14Sox

        3 years ago

        Heard similar talk about Gary Sanchez and he is now a bottom of the order bat and gets replaced for defense.

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  25. Never Remember

    3 years ago

    He knows that if the Rays are offering it, it is a good deal only for them and will reject. No way he signs for less than $30 million AAV.

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  26. PadreFan19

    3 years ago

    I think Wander’s gonna be one of the greats in a few years from now but I think it’s best not to give the kid a lifetime extension prematurely. Give him a few years and we can bring back the talks for an extension to life.

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    • gbs42

      3 years ago

      In a few years, if he’s anything close to as expected, a 10-year contract would cost the Rays $400 million or more, and they’re never giving out that kind of deal.

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  27. chetslemons

    3 years ago

    There is not one of you, not one, who would refuse $150,000,000 at the mere chance of earning more. Think about your life and what that would do for you, your family, your children. Can you even imagine saying no? Are you a gambling addict? What is wrong with you? How much money do you need? Just more than someone else?

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    • Orel Saxhiser

      3 years ago

      Fantastic deal for all involved. Franco, the Rays, and MLB. As baseball fans, we should be thrilled by this development.

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    • gbs42

      3 years ago

      If Franco takes the deal and performs as expected, that’s a savings of 100-200 million dollars for the Rays. How much money does the owner need?

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      • Modified_6

        3 years ago

        This isn’t a player versus owner situation. This is a dollar in the hand is worth 2 in the bush situation. You’re going to risk living the life we all want to live just because you think maybe you could make more? This is guaranteed money versus potentially making a very small fraction if something happens.

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      • chetslemons

        3 years ago

        That’s a big if! I’m all for owners spending big and THIS is what spending big looks like. Take the damned money!

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  28. atmospherechanger

    3 years ago

    Players use $ as the measuring stick against their peers. After a certain amount, I doubt some care about how many zeros there are. They simply want to be seen in a greater light than those with like abilities/production. Egos are a bit high at that level.

    Yes, of course, they want to be paid market rate.

    I wonder what it would be like if salaries were never made public.

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    • gbs42

      3 years ago

      If the players don’t get it, it stays in the owners’ pockets. I’ve never gone to a baseball game to see an owner sitting in his luxury box.

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  29. Angels & NL West

    3 years ago

    I can see Wanders reps being ok with the money, but asking for fewer years. This would provide certainty now and allow him to sign a second big contract in his late 20’s.

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  30. Bright Side

    3 years ago

    I’d pass and wait for FA. He’s not going to shag flies in CF like Acuna. Soto has 3 years of ARB and he’ll wait it out. He’ll likely get more years and AAV than Harper. Franco could get as much if not more. Moreover, ARB years might be reduced if there’s a new CBA.

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  31. CluHaywood

    3 years ago

    So they are giving Franco more money then they have spent on every free agent in the team’s history combined.

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  32. dasit

    3 years ago

    fascinating choice for a very young man to make

    scenario 1 is sign the extension, develop into a perennial MVP, cost yourself 300M (give or take)

    scenario 2 is reject the extension, suffer a debilitating injury before hitting free agency, cost yourself 175M (give or take)

    scenario 1 you feel stupid for not betting on yourself

    scenario 2 you feel stupid for taking your health for granted

    which is worse?

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    • Modified_6

      3 years ago

      Scenario 1 you have 150 to 200 million from Tampa…

      Scenario 2 you could be out of the game forever as soon as your next workout and only make last year and nexts years money…

      Seems pretty easy

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  33. SalaryCapMyth

    3 years ago

    Really blows my mind that Franco is just 20 years old hitting major league pitching and looking quite good when he does it.

    Maybe the only thing more shocking is the Rays offering a legitimately large contract commitment. As infrequent as this sort of thing is from the Rays, it’s a really loud statement. The Rays always trade their young talent as they become more expensive but not so with Franco if they get their way.

    If anyone is going to be an exception to that, I can see why it’s Franco. I’ll watch his career unfold with a lot of interest.

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  34. Joe S

    3 years ago

    No way he should take less then 200/8.

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    • JoeBrady

      3 years ago

      No way he gets that. He is owed $60M-80M for his 6 control years, assuming he is healthy, $200M/8 means TB owes him $120-140M for two years? Plus taking the injury risk?

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      • Modified_6

        3 years ago

        No joke man. It seems like a lot of people don’t understand what 6 years of control will look like money wise if he goes year to year.

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  35. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    3 years ago

    He’s not giving up much money when you consider the pre-arbitration and arbitration years take up like 5 to 7 out of the 10 years.

    If they’re offering around $200M right now, and I am Franco, I’d try to ask for a little bit more to account for if my career goes well, that’s an awkward amount of free agent years to give up for current value that will be cheap 10 years from now.

    I think this deal would make more sense:

    $20M signing bonus, $600k, $700k, $800k, $5.9M, $12M, $25M, $40M, $42.5M, $42.5M, $45M

    10 years/$235M

    The extra $35M would basically be an extra year of FA money if he hadn’t taken a full 10 year extension and is only $23.5M a year, which isn’t much over 10 years for an MLB club nowadays, even a budget conscious club like the Rays- also an immensely trade-able contract if he’s even 70% of the player they think he is.

    Otherwise I don’t think it’d be worth it for Franco to sign that kind of extension and potentially give up the kind of FA money he’d make if he’s as good as the Rays think he will be if they’re willing to offer $200M right now.

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  36. CalcetinesBlancos

    3 years ago

    I’d counter with a contract length equal to the control they already have, but with a reasonable dollar amount decently below what he would pull over the course of the arb years. Give them cost certainty and the ability to trade you for value if they want, but don’t give up any free agent years while you still guarantee yourself some $$$.

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  37. jorge78

    3 years ago

    With RSN predicted to shrink and streaming unknown to take up the slack in those 10 years plus you never know about injuries it might be wise for him to take the deal…..

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  38. traveling man

    3 years ago

    For a franchise that never executes an asinine move,this would definitely be one,if true!

    It CAN’T be true!

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  39. bigmike0424

    3 years ago

    He should take it, he would be providing for his family (his parents, his son which he has 1 back in 2018). considering where he from and lives in Dominican Republic would do wonder for his own family..

    10 yrs 200 + mill plus incentives..

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  40. mdbaseball05

    3 years ago

    Man, that would be tough to turn down. Even if his future worth could be a ton more if he performs, that kinda money sets you up for life… especially going to that from 575k salary that he has now. I feel like no athlete should turn that down with everything that could happen to negatively impact that going forward as others have stated (injury where he can’t regain form, loss in production, etc.). So much can happen in baseball, and any prolonged stint on the IL could kill a career.

    That money sets you up for life, and you can add to that in so many ways now (sponsors, social media, his next contract, investing). Good lord, throw some of that at some stocks and you could earn far more than your next contract.

    70 games under your belt and you’re offered $200M. It would be dumb to not consider that. “Worst case” in your MLB career would be that you made $200M. Plus, it’s with the Rays, who are always in playoff contention. No offense to the bottom dwelling teams, but it’s not like the Pirates or Orioles offering that up.

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  41. padresfan111323

    3 years ago

    Doesn’t seem at all like a Reds thing to do I mean they’re on a budget and he’s controllable for the next 6 years

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    • padresfan111323

      3 years ago

      Sorry Rays not Reds

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    • JoeBrady

      3 years ago

      They’ll trade just like Longoria.

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  42. JoeBrady

    3 years ago

    I’d try to squeeze more out of the Rays, but if everything works out perfectly, the he loses $150M in future earnings. But if he declines, and gets hurt, he is poor forever.

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  43. old man hub

    3 years ago

    Cover for the coming blockbuster?

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  44. Yankee-4-Lifer 75

    3 years ago

    If I’m Wander Franco I would say let’s move the franchise or no deal. But he shouldn’t sign long term anyway. He is a special talent. I believe in the next 2 or 3 years he will be the best player in baseball. Sorry Mike Trout. Your getting older now. lol

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    • gbs42

      3 years ago

      The Rays are locked into their stadium lease through 2027.

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  45. retire21

    3 years ago

    “This just in; Generalissimo Francisco Franco remains critically dead.”

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    • bobtillman

      3 years ago

      Wow,,,does that mean another House of Representatives investigation????

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      • mlbnyyfan

        3 years ago

        Where did TB get all this money all of a sudden? Are they turning into the Dodgers now?

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  46. qbass187

    3 years ago

    Record for who? The Rays? So this is in the hundreds of dollars, huh?

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  47. tbonenats

    3 years ago

    I don’t see any way he takes that deal. Maybe a 7 year deal that buys out 1 year of FA but buying out 3-4? Don’t see him doing that unless the Rays pony up another $75m+ in 6-7 years with inflation and such $37m a year today may look like $50m a year.

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  48. racosun

    3 years ago

    Why is everyone forgetting the $5M they already gave him four years ago? His current small salary doesn’t mean he’s broke. Kid’s been a multi-millionaire for years now, plus he’s marketable.

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  49. kenphelps44

    3 years ago

    I have mixed feelings on this situation. From the players side I wonder at the wisdom at signing this type of contract before seeing what Correa and Story get this off season. Franco is a top of the order, with a chance to grow into a middle of the order, switch hitter playing a premium position. Additionally, the MLPA has strong recommendations on substantial contracts and it is likely they will recommend waiting to see what the next collective bargaining agreement produces. If he doesn’t sign an extension he has a chance to hit free agency about the time he his hitting his peak performance years. On the flip side Franco would be looking at lifetime financial security, providing he manages his money well, if he takes the money and runs.

    On the team’s side of the ledger they obviously have a chance to tie up a very young, premium position player which the team could build around. But there is also the cautionary tale of Jurickson Profar who was also splatter across Baseball America, Baseball Prospectus and Major League Baseball prospect rankings as the hands down number 1 prospect in the game in 2013. In fact he was mentioned in the same stratosphere as Mike Trout by several people. Do you think the Rangers are happy they didn’t sign Profar to a long term deal before his 21st birthday?

    Lastly, the frugal or cheap, depending how you look at it, Rays usually regret signing players to long term contracts as they near the last few years of their deals. See Archer, Longoria and now Kiermaier who’s contract they would love to dump.

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    • yandymania

      3 years ago

      Compare jurickson profar and wander Franco’s age 20 seasons (not even profar’s rookie year). Franco broke records set by hall of famers and was hitting monster shots in Fenway in the playoffs. Eye test and results 100% check out with his pedigree

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  50. LebronHatesAsians

    3 years ago

    Might be the best player in the game in a couple years. At least will be some serious competition to the party. Serious crop of young talent on the offensive side in the game right now and they are still babies.

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  51. Mynameisnoname

    3 years ago

    No way Franco should take that team friendly non sense. He’s not broke, signing the largest bonus of his class at 3.85 mil.

    Maybe sign away one FA season, but theres no need to give back 150-300 mil when you have a friggen 80 hit tool and rocked out for the last 70 games as a 20 year old!

    If anyone should bet on themselves, it’s the Franco types.

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  52. angelsfan4life

    3 years ago

    If I’m his Agent, I will tell him only sign it, if they give you a No Trade Clause. Because they will trade him as soon as they have to pay you more than 5 million. That way you can pick the team you get traded to

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  53. Edp007

    3 years ago

    Vladdy watching this one closely, will be asking for 15/400 plus

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  54. Jarred Kelenic's Beer Can

    3 years ago

    As soon as the Rays actually pay him, he’ll get shopped.

    Reply
  55. Dumpster Divin Theo

    3 years ago

    Meh. Future Yankee

    Reply
    • RobM

      3 years ago

      Should have already been a Yankee. They had him signed until MLB changed the international draft pool rules midstream.

      Reply

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