The Mets have already been one of the league’s most active teams this offseason. They’ve replaced their manager, added a new baseball operations leader and embarked upon a huge spending spree to land the market’s top center fielder and starting pitcher. They probably won’t make quite as many headlines coming out of the lockout, but with seemingly limitless financial resources and an obvious desire to improve, they can’t be ruled out of almost anything.
- Francisco Lindor, SS: $341MM through 2031
- Max Scherzer, RHP: $130MM through 2024
- Starling Marte, CF: $78MM through 2025
- Jacob deGrom, RHP: $72MM through 2023 (deal contains a $32.5MM club option for 2024; deGrom can opt out of final year and $34.5MM after 2022)
- Robinson Canó, 2B: $48MM through 2023
- James McCann, C: $32.45MM through 2024
- Mark Canha, LF: $26.5MM through 2023 (including $2MM buyout on $11.5MM club option for 2024)
- Eduardo Escobar, 3B: $20MM through 2023 (including $500K buyout on $9.5MM club option for 2024)
- Carlos Carrasco, RHP: $15MM through 2022 (including $3MM buyout on $14MM vesting/club option for 2023)
- Taijuan Walker, RHP: $14MM through 2023 (Walker can opt out of final year and $3MM after 2022)
- Trevor May, RHP: $7.75MM through 2022
Total 2022 commitments: $215.8MM
Projected Salaries for Arbitration-Eligible Players (projections via MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz)
- Edwin Díaz — $10.4MM
- Pete Alonso — $7.3MM
- Brandon Nimmo — $6MM
- Dominic Smith — $4MM
- Trevor Williams — $3.8MM
- Seth Lugo — $3.7MM
- Jeff McNeil — $2.8MM
- J.D. Davis — $2.7MM
- Miguel Castro — $2.6MM
- Joey Lucchesi — $1.6MM
- Tomás Nido — $900K
- Drew Smith — $900K
- Luis Guillorme — $700K
Both Mets and Kevin Pillar declined their ends of two-tiered option; paid $1.4MM buyout in lieu of $6.4MM club option or $2.9MM player option
- Michael Conforto, Javier Báez, Marcus Stroman, Jonathan Villar, Rich Hill, Jeurys Familia, Aaron Loup, Robert Gsellman, Kevin Pillar, José Peraza, Jerad Eickhoff, Heath Hembree, Brad Hand, Dellin Betances, Corey Oswalt, Tommy Hunter, Brandon Drury, Albert Almora Jr., Robert Stock, Stephen Nogosek, Mason Williams, Wilfredo Tovar, Chance Sisco, Mark Payton
The Mets entered the winter knowing they’d be on the hunt for a new baseball operations leader, and a managerial vacancy followed in the opening days of the offseason. New York declined their 2022 option on Luis Rojas, ending his time in the role after two seasons.
The first few weeks of the offseason were fairly quiet on the transactions front as the Mets prioritized putting a new front office leader in place. New York inquired about such notable names as Billy Beane, Theo Epstein and David Stearns as part of a highly-public search. They missed out on those marquee names, but New York did eventually settle on a baseball ops head with previous experience leading a front office. In mid-November, the Mets finalized a four-year deal with former Angels general manager Billy Eppler to take on that role in Queens.
Eppler took over a club facing plenty of turnover. Starters Noah Syndergaard and Marcus Stroman were hitting free agency, as were longtime outfielder Michael Conforto and deadline pickup Javier Báez. It now seems like all four of those players are going to be playing elsewhere next season. Syndergaard and Conforto rejected qualifying offers. (Stroman and Báez were each ineligible for QO’s but surely would’ve declined themselves). The two starters signed with other clubs before the lockout, as did Báez. Conforto remains a free agent, but the Mets other moves this offseason (more on those in a minute) suggest the club has probably moved on.
With two departing starters, New York made a run at Steven Matz. The southpaw, whom the Mets had traded away last offseason, hit free agency coming off a solid year with the Blue Jays. New York was one of a few clubs with notable interest in Matz, but the 30-year-old inked a four-year contract with the Cardinals. That didn’t sit well with owner Steve Cohen, who apparently felt the Mets were denied an opportunity to match St. Louis’ $44MM offer.
The Mets didn’t have much time to dwell on the result of the Matz negotiations, though. With the lockout approaching, the free agent market picked up quite a bit of steam in late November. With Eppler in place, New York was in position to partake in that extravaganza, and the team dove in headfirst. The Mets first free agent pickup — veteran infielder Eduardo Escobar on a two-year guarantee — was a solid but not overly splashy pickup.
It didn’t take long for more headline-grabbing news to follow. Corner outfielder Mark Canha agreed to terms on a two-year deal just a few hours later. And to top off one of the most active evenings by any team in recent memory, New York signed free agency’s only star center fielder. Starling Marte landed a four-year deal with a $78MM guarantee, the largest free agent contract signed by any player this offseason up to that point.
Within a few hours, the Mets fundamentally revamped their lineup. Marte and Canha stepped into the outfield, likely pushing Brandon Nimmo from center field to a corner spot. Escobar stabilized an uncertain second/third base mix, as the club was soon to see Báez land in Detroit. That initial spree didn’t address the potential Syndergaard/Stroman departures, but New York had their highest-impact pickup of all looming on the horizon.
That, of course, proved to be the signing of future Hall of Famer Max Scherzer. The three-time Cy Young award winner landed a three-year, $130MM deal that’s likely to be the largest commitment to any free agent pitcher this winter. It was always expected Scherzer would land a record-setting average annual value, but the extent of the Mets commitment even surpassed most pre-offseason projections.
That few days was the kind Mets fans had dreamed of when Cohen purchased the franchise from the Wilpon family last winter. New York entered the lockout with a projected $263MM in player investments next season, according to Jason Martinez of Roster Resource. That’s the highest in MLB by a mile, and the Mets look likely to handily exceed whatever luxury tax thresholds are set in the upcoming collective bargaining agreement.
The transactions freeze brought the Mets player acquisitions to a halt, but it didn’t mark the end of the club’s key offseason dealings. With the lockout looming, the Mets focused on adding to the roster in the intervening weeks between Eppler’s hiring and the December 1 expiration of the previous CBA. Once the league barred player movement, the club returned to their manager position, which had sat vacant for around three months.
According to reports, New York met with six candidates as part of that search. Longtime skipper Buck Showalter was cast as the favorite fairly early in the process, though, and his ultimate hiring proved wholly unsurprising. In contrast to the club’s past few hires — Mickey Callaway, Carlos Beltrán (very briefly) and Rojas — Showalter brings decades of experience to the position. He’ll oversee a star-studded clubhouse, leading a franchise that’ll enter the season with massive aspirations.
With so much in the rearview mirror, what’s left for the Mets after the lockout? Paradoxically, one could argue the club’s immense volume of activity makes their next steps either easier or tougher to project. On the one hand, they’ve done so much that the roster’s strengths and deficiencies are fairly clear. Yet the organization is already operating in uncharted waters from a payroll perspective, leaving little indication for outside observers how much further Cohen and the front office could be prepared to go.
Where might Alderson and Eppler devote their attention after the transactions freeze? The Nimmo – Marte – Canha grouping in the outfield is impressive enough that any further pickups will probably be of the depth variety. It looks all but inevitable that Conforto will depart, and the Mets will pick up another draft choice (they also received one after Syndergaard signed with the Angels) as compensation.
There’s plenty of depth around the infield as well. Francisco Lindor is the shortstop, and Pete Alonso is at first base. How exactly Showalter will divvy up the playing time between second and third base remains to be seen, but there are plenty of options on hand. Jeff McNeil is probably best suited for playing time at the keystone, but Robinson Canó is set to return to the organization after a year-long PED suspension. Escobar can player either position, while J.D. Davis is an option at the hot corner (even if he’s better suited at first base or designated hitter). Utilityman Luis Guillorme can back up all around the infield, including at shortstop.
The likely addition of the DH to the National League might alleviate that logjam a bit, but there’s also the presence of first baseman/corner outfielder Dominic Smith to consider. Committing to anyone at DH might leave a deserving player without regular at-bats, and it looks likely at least one notable name is traded away before the start of the season. Recent reports have suggested a McNeil or Smith deal may be the most probable, but Davis has long been speculated upon as a trade candidate himself — so much so that he guessed his chances of opening next season in Queens were “kind of 50/50” even before New York’s spending spree.
If the Mets were to deal one of those players, it seems likely they’d target pitching help in return. No one around the league can match New York’s best two arms, with Scherzer and Jacob deGrom a potentially dominating pairing at the top. There’s a lot of uncertainty behind that duo, though.
Carlos Carrasco is usually very effective when healthy, but he was limited to twelve starts last year by various injuries and underwent postseason surgery to remove a bone fragment from his elbow. He’s not expected to miss much more than a bit of Spring Training action, but it’s the latest in a rather significant injury history for the 34-year-old. Taijuan Walker stayed healthy last season, but he followed up an All-Star first half with a 7.13 ERA/6.79 FIP after the Break. David Peterson struggled and battled oblique and foot injuries last season. Tylor Megill showed promising strikeout and walk numbers but gave up a lot of hard contact when batters did put the ball in play.
At least adding some sort of stabilizing back-of-the-rotation presence would seem to be a priority. The Reds and A’s are expected to make some higher-impact arms available via trade, and other teams like the Marlins and Brewers might have enough pitching depth to consider dealing a back-end guy for offensive help.
As is the case with virtually every contender, the Mets could probably stand to add a reliever or two. Last year’s bullpen was a top ten unit by both ERA and strikeout/walk rate differential. But Aaron Loup has already departed, and Jeurys Familia (in whom the Mets apparently have some interest in re-signing) and midseason pickups Heath Hembree and Brad Hand all hit free agency.
Edwin Díaz, Trevor May and Seth Lugo make for a quality back-end trio, but adding some middle relief help makes sense. That’s particularly true from the left side, as the Mets don’t have a single southpaw in their projected Opening Day bullpen. Andrew Chafin, Tony Watson and Jake Diekman stand out as the top free agent lefty relievers still available. New York has also been tied to Twins closer Taylor Rogers, who could be attainable in trade.
Catcher stands out as one other potential weak point on the roster. The Mets hoped they’d solidified the position by signing James McCann to a four-year deal last offseason. The veteran was coming off a strong two-year run with the White Sox, but his numbers on both sides of the ball went backwards during his first season in Queens. Without many obvious alternatives available in free agency or trade, the Mets may have to primarily rely on a McCann bounceback, but they could look to replace Tomás Nido as a backup.
It’s certainly possible the Mets biggest activity of the winter is already behind them. Two of the best pitchers in recent memory are in place at the top of the rotation. There’s plenty of star power at the back of the bullpen. The outfield has already been completely remade, and there’s enough depth around the infield that trading away a player or two looks likely.
It’d be justifiable for the front office to view the core as already being in place and to now turn their attention to smaller pickups at the back of the roster. Yet after their November flurry of activity, it’s hard to count the Mets out on anyone. Would ownership push the payroll beyond $300MM for the right player? That’s impossible to tell, since there’s no spending history with Cohen on which to draw. Over the past few years, big-market behemoths like the Dodgers have continued to land star talent even in the absence of a true team “need.” It wouldn’t be a huge surprise if the Mets take the same approach.
One factor the Mets have to consider whenever major league free agency begins again: the qualifying offer. New York declined to sign first-round pick Kumar Rocker last summer, entitling them to a compensatory pick in next year’s draft. Yet because that compensation pick (#11 overall) is higher than the Mets original choice (#14 overall), they’d forfeit their second pick of the first round were they to sign a free agent who has been tagged with a QO.
That could deter a pursuit of someone like Trevor Story or Nick Castellanos, but there are a few marquee free agents who didn’t receive a QO. Carlos Rodón might be the top starting pitcher still available and wasn’t tagged by the White Sox; deadline target Kris Bryant, ineligible for a QO by virtue of a midseason trade, is unsigned; NPB star Seiya Suzuki is going through the posting process and wouldn’t cost a pick. The Mets probably don’t need to make another splash, but if ownership is willing to keep spending, the front office could explore their options.
It’s been another eventful winter in Queens. The Mets again have new leadership, both atop the front office and in the manager’s chair. They’re flexing financial muscle the likes of which previous ownership never seemed to consider. They’ve landed a couple more stars, and even if the remainder of the offseason involves adjustments on the margins of the roster, expectations will be as high as ever. It has been five years since the Mets last postseason appearance. If the streak reaches six, it’d go down as the club’s biggest disappointment yet.
What’s next? Next comes a 162-0 season and they sweep through the playoffs and bring home The Commissioner’s Trophy.
Then no one makes LOLMets jokes ever again. And they live happily ever after. The End.
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I love that plan!
The Saber-toothed Superfife
I blame Al Avila.
they do what they always do, choke on an ostrich bone. It is the one thing this organization does better than anyone else.
I mean, that simply is not true
Yea the hater trolls conveniently forget that Mets were in the WS in ‘15. They’re delusional.
What’s your point? They were still better than 28 other teams which contradicts the idea that they always choke.
and got absolutely destroyed by the Royals. No one cares/remembers 2nd place.
This conversation is about folks insisting that the Mets always choke. Second place is very indicative that they didn’t choke. If you’re gonna join the conversation, at least understand what it’s about. They were still better than 28 other teams that year. Try to use some logic here, if you can.
The point is, they still got to the big dance!
Who cares anymore? This prima-donna ball players are all laughing to the bank and don’t give crap about our opinions as fans, unless your going to buy there jersey’s or signed baseballs ?
Correct, say whatever you will about the Mets (and God knows, you trolls will), but choking clearly isn’t one of them.
I mean, it completely is.
So by your definition of choking that applies to most of the league every year. So most of the league always chokes? In fact 29 teams are choking every year? That makes no sense. You make no sense.
Funny, how quickly the worm turns, the Spankees just went from big brother to small brother in just one winter’s grey? I’m sure old George is spinning and done some serious bachata dancing in his grave. It’s quite refreshing to see the Spankees fans now acting like old Mets fans were, when the Coupons were under helm? Is this world gone mad, does indisputable right no longer supersede indisputable?
Relax, our team hasnt won anything yet…
Talk about choking. The Yankees win 100 games and don’t win a WS. They sign a cheating pitcher, paying $30 million a year for a bodybuilder who can’t play the O.F. but will bust it in the gym. SS is over the hill at 25. You big time lefthanded OF pick up hit under 200 and Ks more than anyone in the sport. Your catcher lead MLB in passballs most years and your Yankee Stadium is in a really bad neighborhood (I lived on 170th.)
My prediction is that the Mets keep spending until their payroll busts out of their pants.
This is starting to look like baseball’s version of “The Titanic”. Good luck.
some fkin awful contracts there lmaooo i don’t care how rich their owner is, it’s going to catch up to them sooner than later.
Their owner could straight up buy like 10 teams right now. It’s not going to catch up to him.
And after 2022, Carrasco is off the books. After 2023, Cano, Escobar, Walker, Cahna, and possibly deGrom are. After 2024, Scherzer and McCann are. So unless Marte seriously regresses, the only big and potentially bad long term deal is Lindor.
Haters gonna hate.
So it’ll be bad for 3 more seasons…assuming they don’t sign any other bad contracts. Calling everyone that disagrees with you a hater dilutes the term to the point that it’s meaningless.
Assuming the DH comes to the NL, I would not rule out a reunion with Conforto. He may not find the offers he was hoping for on the free agent market and it wouldn’t shock me if he returned, leading to a rotation with one of the excess OFs frequently serving as DH (when everyone is healthy, a huge caveat).
Mets need to add a starter who they feel as reasonably confident as you ever can with a pitcher that they will give innings. They don’t have to be the greatest innings in the world. A guy who gives them 180-200 innings of 4.90 ERA would be fine, just enough to try and protect the bullpen. And while the rotation has a great ceiling, the floor could use some raising.
It would be great if they could add a catcher to essentially split the job with McCann, but that’s a luxury at this point.
I’m curious to see where the payroll goes from here. I am wondering maybe Cohen gave a green light to essentially endless spending, but only for the next three years, after which he expects them to have a high but reasonable payroll.
Bud Selig Fan
More pitching. Acquire at least 2 more starters, and quality bullpen arms. If DeGrom is injured and Scherzer shows his age, this team is in trouble unless they have an abundance of quality starter depth.
Conforto shipped has sailed. How many outfielders/DHs do the Mets need?
I’m perplexed by the Conforto situation because while the Angels surprisingly signed a guy with a QO to a 1 year deal, I feel like that doesn’t make sense to do. I’d imagine Conforto’s multi-year deals would have to come with an AAV discount based on his play last year. I’m skeptical of his market.
My point being, if his FA market doesn’t develop I could see him take a pillow contract with the Mets to try to test the market next year without a QO and hopefully on a better platform year.
Thing is, the Mets have already replaced him
Only 18 pitchers threw 180 innings last year, and Baltimore beat you to Jordan Lyles. No remaining FA meets that standard. Only the A’s with Montas, and Cincinnati with Castillo are even considering offers, and as everybody wants one, they won’t go cheap. It will take the Mets top prospects, not their excess bench players to acquire one of them.
Stymeedone- 2021 stats are likely a bit of an aberration; pitchers hadn’t pitched a full season in 2020 so everyone was on at least a little bit of a tight leash.
But- your point is still valid, I checked 2019 and there were only 29 pitchers with 180 innings. So, 180 innings isn’t quite the low standard it used to be.
Conforto is gone. There is no chance he’s back with the Mets. They already have Cano and Dom Smith for DHs.
Plus he’d cost a fortune and that money would be way better spent shoring up their 3, 4, and 5 spots in the rotation. Carrasco, Megill, Peterson, and Walker are all major question marks.
Duffy – returns in June LH Sp
Watson LH RP
Vientos (AAA 3b)
possibly Mauricio SS/IF in right deal
…restock minors with OF and SP
Try to acquire:
Reds’ SP – any one of them
Means – LH SP from Orioles
Royals’ RP – any one of them
Rogers LH RP
…plus whoever is left of Davis, Smith or McNeil
Sp 5/rp/minors Peterson, Megill, Carrasco
Duffy in June to replace any of the injured above.
possibly add Reds’ SP in trade(or Means)
Diaz – closer
Rogers – Twins LH
I’m so tired of this team counting on retreads and crapshoots. I can’t see Cohen doing that when there are known commodities available. I think he loads up the major league active roster with proven performers, then jettisons everyone else from the 40 man roster to restock the minor league system. Win now with an eye towards building the minors with actual prospects to be used to trade for mlb pieces later in the season when injuries hit. And they will hit.
That’s this fan’s hope for opening day.
Lindor hitting 7th? In what world?
when he is hitting 250 by the all star break.
Where else do you hide 300M?
You forgot to include – trade for trout, acuna, Guerrero, and soto.
Does DeGrom opt out with a healthy season? If so does he beat Scherzer AAV?
I see Mets signing Kikuchi, Hand, and someone like McHugh or David Robertson. Think they are not going to make trades in off-season unless it is for prospects with Smith being most likely. He is not a good enough OF and blocked by Alonso at 1B. Davis being able to play 3B (albeit not good at all) plays a factor as does his power.
In nurse follars
Maybe Mets will be great and bring a world championship home this year. Or maybe they will prove once again that collecting contracts for the sake of it is a loser’s bet.
Chief Two Hands
And later on, monkeys might fly out of my butt. These are all possibilities. Party on, Garth! For the record, I’ll go with the latter of your two potential outcomes.
Just taking a second to note that Tomas Nido was a near-elite defender in a small/medium sample size last year. He was meaningfully more valuable than McCann.
Not sure an “upgrade” there makes too much sense with the holes at SP. I’d actually look for a more even split between Nido and McCann if 2021 is the norm.
100% agree. Nido is an underrated luxury defensively. Yes, the bat needs work but in a DH world I’m not so sad about Nido hitting 9th every 4-5 days.
Terrible hitter and he always will be but the D has become phenomenal. In this day and age it makes him one of the most valuable backup catchers in the game.
Don’t underestimate a phenominal D.
In some cases, catchers’ offensive game takes time to catch up to their defensive game. I wouldn’t count out Nido becoming a better hitter, he did win a batting title in Low-A.
That batting title is meaningless. It came with bad peripherals in a weak league. His stats after that at higher levels were so bad it’s embarrassing (seriously, look it up). I’ve heard this “catchers take a while” rubbishy with Nido for a long time now. There’s nothing to catch up to. He’s a glove first catcher. He’s always been a poor hitter and he always will be. Let’s just be realistic and accept him for what he is.
I expect an improvement from McCann now that he’s had a year to learn the pitchers.
I think the Mets bought fools gold with McCann.
I don’t think it’s fools gold… I think fans have higher expectations than the front office… McCann was and probably still is, the best bang for the buck of catchers available at that time. I mean, excluding anyone that really had a surprisingly good season. He’s not expected to be great, just an upgrade over what they had.
You could debate that he wasn’t an upgrade from what they had.
Nah, he’s waaaaay better than Ramos, no question. Ramos was a disaster.
It’s crazy that I see deGrom and Scherzer, but I still see the Mets rotation as a weakness. They need a 3-4 type to solidify things in my opinion. The lineup should be better by virtue of them having more on-base guys for Alonso and Lindor to drive home. I think their bullpen is underrated and was severely overworked last year. I see the Mets competing for the 1-3 spot in a tight NLE race.
It’s not crazy to think that. Even setting aside age and injury concerns for deGrom and Scherzer, you have:
-Carrasco – will be 35, missed most of 2021 with injury, was wildly inconsistent when he returned and flat out bad in over half of his starts
-Walker – has an extensive injury history, first half of 2021: 7-3, 2.66 era, second half: 0-8, 7.13 era
-Megill – had a rocky, up and down 2021 rookie year
-Peterson – effective in 2020, pitched poorly and lost his rotation spot in 2021, had foot surgery
Mets need to pick up another arm or two otherwise this will be a repeat of last year.
Completely agree. They need to target Rodon once the lockout is done
Adding another injury prone starter the mix is probably the last thing they should do. They need a durable arm, not a splashy name.
Jon Lester, Tyler Anderson, Zach Davies, J.A. Happ, or Kikuchi are all guys that have managed to take the ball every 5th day and that is what the Mets need
and they still have big rbi man except Alonso.
Any of McNeil, Davis, Lindor, even Marte, if you put them in the middle of the lineup, they’re driving in runs.
If Jacob DeGrom is damaged goods (he has not thrown a pitch since July that I am aware of) none of the above matters.
What’s the deal with Kershaw? How come no one mentions him anymore. Is he actually that bad now and injury prone?
I think the guy still has some gas left in the tank!
The Giants would fit him well!
Stays in the state, not too far from Hollywood, LA. I guess we’ll see!
Folks must really think he’s damaged goods
Kershaw is likely doing one of three things. 1. Re-signing with the Dodgers. 2. Signing near his home in Texas. 3. Retiring/sitting out the season to recover from injury.
I agree that the biggest moves yet to be made would be on the trade market. Logjams exist pretty much everywhere, especially 2b/3b. Trades can both increase depth in an improving but still low rated farm or bring in a #3/#4 SP. Sonny Gray is the obvious arm, and there does seem to be a match with the obvious trade candidates in Davis or Smith.
The other huge question is which Cano suits up? The last “I got suspended for juicing so I’m coming back looking like I was juicing” return for hald of 2018 is probably a big contributor to why that trade happened in the first place (.303/.374/.471 in 80 games) but his defensive metrics were already sliding then. Is Cohen willing to eat two years of that outright if he’s feeling like I do chomping muscle relaxers at 39?
There really is no logjam in the IF. McNeil should definitely start. Davis really isn’t a third baseman. That just leaves one spot left for Escobar or Cano with Guillorme as the only backup. I’d argue that they need to ADD an infielder.
I agree. I think the starting IF should be:
Alonso 1B, McNeil 2B, Lindor SS, Escobar 3B
You’ve got Smith, Davis, Cano, and Guillorme sitting on the bench right now and Davis is completely useless in the field. Like his bat, but without a DH, he doesn’t fit this team.
Esocbar has got to start. McNeil as well.
I’d definitely start Escobar over Cano but I’d still prefer an upgrade if possible. Escobar is kind of a weak hitter for a third baseman; not terrible, but id like to do better. However, pitching upgrades probably take precedent at this point.
The logjam comes from having 6-7 starter caliber guys who need to fill 4 spots (+dh?) I’m big on McNeil as well, and he’s the best defensive 2b (and 3b, and maybe LF) on the team. Dom and JD are both starters without a position, and Cano is the big unknown. The big take on Davis when he came over was that with regular play he produces. He needs to start somewhere or the bat falters. Dom too, he’s the best defensive 1b on the team but doesn’t slot in elsewhere as we’ve seen and he needs regular ABs. Guillorme is a very serviceable backup with Mauricio waiting in the wings (though I’d also prefer trading Mauricio as a premium SS than risk him getting branded a utility guy) Dom and JD are the expendables and should be traded either to improve the rotation and/or deepen the farm.
What’s next? Mets land Correa to play alongside Lindor if he agrees to play 3B.
9.Escobar DH/or Canha RF
What’s next is more spending. The new bullies of baseball have the richest owner who will spend like a drunken sailor which I’m fine with! I think teams like Oakland need to get forced out, these are teams that are hurting baseball.
I think your drunken owner will learn you cannot just buy a WS ring by spending lavishly. If only it was that simple. Cano is going to pass out the PED’s to his teammates. Schwerzer’s career is going to end abruptly. deGrom is headed for TJ surgery before the year is out. The other 3 starters are trash. By the end of the season Steve Cohen is going to be looking to sell if not the franchise then the players.
Buying championships went out with the 90’s. The “super team” really doesn’t exist in Baseball. It why i never understood why ARod and JLo promised $200 million dollar payrolls and guaranteed a championship within the first 10 years of ownership if they were allowed to buy the team. ARod played for the Yankees and should know better than anything that championships are no longer bought in MLB
Just look at the commentors here, plenty of people still think that $ = championship, so saying that makes sense.
There’s not really too many (if any) Met fans here claiming this is a championship team yet, so I don’t know where you’re getting this; it’s not from here.
The Mets season is hanging by a thread…the frayed one that is Jacob DeGrom’s right UCL.
I’m not sure they are a playoff team as currently constructed. They finished They finished 11.5 games out of 1st, and 13 games out of the wildcard. The additions, on a net basis:
Scherzer => Stroman
Marte => Conforto
Canha => Smith
Escobar => Villar
That’s certainly an improvement, but with Acuna, and maybe Soroka, and maybe Ozuna returning, is that enough to catch the Braves? I think, at a minimum, they need full seasons from both DeGrom and Scherzer to have a shot at maybe .550.
McNeil and Lindor should both be better… they still need to upgrade the bullpen… I think their wildcard prospects are good but catching the Braves is another matter.
McNeil and Lindor should both be better…
I definitely think the NYMs have some positive regression to look forward to.
But if you add Baez to McNeil & Lindor, then they got a total of 6.4 bWAR. Even with some regression, I don’t think the 2022 version of McNeil & Lindor will be that much higher.
I usually use a +/- system to see how much a team will improve from the previous season. I don’t see enough pluses to get from 77 wins to 90 wins.
And I see a huge risk relying on one monster SP, who missed the 2nd half, and one monster SP who is 37.
did you calculate how many players were playing out of their optimal position along with the potential of half the team not being injured? At one point the entire opening day lineup with the exception of i think McCann and Dom Smith in LF were on the IL. Dom can play left field in a pinch and im sure half the pitchers can but you dont want him out there playing regularly. Its another Duda / Murphy experiment that failed.
As a Mets’ fan, I agree with you. The Braves are still formidable and I’d be shocked if Freeman isn’t a Brave long-term. I think the Mets have an edge in starting pitching, but there are too many ways for their staff to go sideways this season.
I don’t see the Phillies or Nats contending but, of course, I could be wrong. My sleeper pick to contend is the Marlins, who might have the best starting staff (1-5) in the division.
Phillies will compete. They’ll hover around .500. If they decided to splurge, they have a shot at taking the division, but as it stands now they’re around .500.
Yankees fan here…..good for the Mets and their fans. The Wilpon years were challenging. We talk about tanking….the Mets (ownership) weren’t tanking as much as not trying very hard.
When the Yankees and the Mets are BOTH good, it’s good for baseball. More viewers means more money that is split among all teams.
I don’t think the Mets carry the national market like the Yankees do, but I still agree with your overall point. Big markets doing well is good for baseball.
Here come all the met haters…
Let the hate flow through you
Nah, most people have learned what Javy Baez and Julius Randle are still trying to and ignore the NY sports fans. Win something first.
What a very thought out and intelligent comment. Gold star for you.
Win something first? What does that mean? What is your criteria? The Mets have won pretty recently.
Yep it is
Added a lot of $$$ on talent but don’t see much other than Marte and Schrezer making a difference. Showalter is the biggest addition.
Mets fan here.
Scherzer and deGrom will most likely be hurt most of the year.
Lindor is not an NY player
The only big feared bat is Alonso, they need another big bat.
Finish under 500, as they stand right now.
Lindor is not a NY player? What does that even mean? His talent level changes according to city?
Mark my words; Buck will straighten him out, don’t you worry. Playtime is over.
I hope Dom
Davis will go away
They are a detriment to the team.
McNeil? Do you even watch this game? Have you ever checked out this thing called stats? McNeil and Smith had down years. Davis is a very good hitter. You make no sense sometimes, Dan.
I am sick of seeing McNeal displaying his little tantrums.
double plays hit into
What happens when deGrom and Scherzer get hurt in May?
Yea I’ll give you that. McNeil could use a bit of an attitude adjustment.
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“Francisco Lindor, SS: $341MM through 2031” is the worst contract in the history of contracts. For those who thought Robinson Cano or Bobby Bonilla was as Mets as you could get, Francisco Lindor, SS: $341MM through 2031 has it beat.
You don’t judge a longterm contract on the first year. McCann contract is the one that stands out to me. There was no reason for the Mets to give him that money. A career backup with a 1 very solid shortened season, and they paid him like a top catcher.
Mets 78-83 in 2022
In addition to adding a starter, they also need a lefty for the pen. Chafin and / or Hand maybe
NY Mets Shopping List :
#3SP – Trade for Sonny Gray
(McNeil and/ or Davis)
LHRP – Chafin and/or resign Hand
RP. – McHugh or Kikuchi
Resign Familia (he’ll come cheap)
3B – Kris Bryant
DH Smith / Cano
Peterson 6th SP
Megill – Long Man/ Spot SP
McHugh or Kikuchi
Chafin or Hand
Cano / Smith
Nimmo doesn’t bat last. You don’t bat the best on base percentage guy last, that’s baseball 101. Nimmo either leads off or hits second.
Good. Then he’ll be on base when Marte and Lindor come to bat haha
He can hit #2 vs RHP,
if it makes you happy.
Plus, injuries are inevitable.
I’m not sure they’re deep enough
So maybe they sign Suzuki for S&G
Yea, he’ll be on base when the other guys come to bat, that’s the point of batting him first. You don’t bury one of your best hitters in the spot where he’ll get the least at bats.
usually i agree with you cosmos but in that lineup nimmo bats 7th or 9th … you need marte’s speed at the top and bryant and lindor make better number 2 hitters with the other slotting in number 3. … nimmo is not a cleanup hitter and batting 5 makes no sense as you want him to either leadoff an inning (number 7 spot) or turn of the lineup and marte has some pop and can drive in runs. Argument can be made for the 6th spot but i think for him 7 may be the better fit.
I think the optimum lineup would be nimmo 7 and mccann 9 with nimmo able to get a hit and make knock in the run or get on base for your dh in the 8th spot with your worst hitter being 9 in mccann.
the above MIGHT make for a winning year.
A third place finish.
Atlanta first. Who’s second?
Like the Rangers, they have to keep spending at this point.