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Bullpen Rumors: Givens, Rogers, Familia

By Steve Adams | November 23, 2021 at 11:14am CDT

The Phillies have had “substantive” talks with free-agent reliever Mychal Givens as they continue their quest to bolster the back end of their bullpen, per NBC Sports Philadelphia’s Jim Salisbury. The hard-throwing righty is a first-time free agent and coming off a 3.35 ERA in 51 frames between the Rockies and Reds this past season. Givens, 31, punched out a quarter of his opponents in 2021 but also walked 12.5% of the batters he faced. Givens has long been a steady reliever, as evidenced by a 3.41 ERA in nearly 400 MLB innings, but he’s seen his strikeout and walk rates trend in the wrong direction over the past couple seasons, while his HR/9 mark has more than doubled from 0.73 in 2015-18 to 1.65 from 2019-21.

Some more bullpen rumblings from around the game…

  • The Mets officially bid farewell to a key lefty reliever this week when Aaron Loup signed a two-year contract with the Angels, and one name they’re intrigued by as they search for alternatives is Twins closer Taylor Rogers, according to Mike Puma of the New York Post (Twitter link). The 30-year-old Rogers (31 next month) has been one of the game’s best lefties since a breakout 2018 season, pitching to a combined 2.91 ERA with a huge 31.2% strikeout rate and a tiny 4.9% walk rate. There’s no firm indication that the Twins would be open to moving Rogers, but he’s in his final offseason of arbitration eligibility and projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to earn $6.7MM in 2022. That’s plenty reasonable for a reliever with Rogers’ track record, but the lefty saw his 2021 season end with a lengthy IL stint due to a damaged ligament in his pitching hand. Rogers surrendered six runs in his final 3 2/3 frames before landing on the IL just prior to the July 30 trade deadline, and he was unable to return thereafter.
  • Speaking of Mets free agent, right-hander Jeurys Familia is on the Red Sox’ radar, reports WEEI’s Rob Bradford. The 32-year-old righty enjoyed a solid season with the Mets in 2021, pitching to a 3.94 ERA in 59 1/3 frames while matching a career-high 27.5% strikeout rate. Familia also cut back on 2019-20’s career-worst 15.5% walk rate, though last year’s 10.3% clip was still well north of the league average. Familia has plenty of closing experience, evidenced by 125 career saves, but is also no stranger to pitching in a setup capacity. He’d give the Sox another viable late-inning option in the event that incumbent closer Matt Barnes’ alarming second-half decline carries into the 2022 campaign.
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  1. LordD99

    4 years ago

    Rogers likely the Twins closer. Curious what the Mets could even offer.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      4 years ago

      Yea. This seems like a “reach for the stars” kind of thing.

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      • DadsInDaniaBeach

        4 years ago

        LOL!…Just what they needed a walk prone reliever that gives up home runs..just the guy they need at the Bank…
        There are times I just scratch my head and wonder what these guys are thinking…

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        • Confortoismyspiritanimal

          4 years ago

          “The Bank” is not CitiField. Maybe that can be Philly, but definitely not NY.

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        • DadsInDaniaBeach

          4 years ago

          I guess I should have put sarcasm at the end of my text..he’s not what I want to see in Philly….oh well…I’ve been around for a few days and figured most know how I post..

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    • Rsox

      4 years ago

      Insert Dom Smith/J.D. Davis answer

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  2. koolga

    4 years ago

    God no. Sox don’t need another 4 ERA reliever.

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    • lady1959

      4 years ago

      4.0 is the new 2.0⚾️

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      • NYMetsFanatic

        4 years ago

        Hahaha cute!

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      4 years ago

      Yipes! Living in NY, I’m “familiar’ with the pitcher who will get lot up at Fenway.

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    • imissjoebuzas

      4 years ago

      Loup got A LOT of $$$ from the Angels. I wish him luck, but he isn’t worth what he got. Familia, on the other hand, could close for the Royals or Tigers or some other team not in a pennant race. He would be exposed in Boston. He needs a huge park and only a little pressure from the s
      People in the stands. He isn’t what he used to be since after his WS appearance. The Mets overworked him2015-2016, and he’s been meh since.

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      • josebatista89

        4 years ago

        Those Tigers you’re dumping on. Have the best Farm system in the league and have very good young talent in the rotation and coming up the pipeline. Hey but keep thinking that Stevie Choen is different than the Wilpons. Also, NO THANKS on Familia. Let him go to the Rockies, or Twins.

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        • imissjoebuzas

          4 years ago

          I hope your Tigers are in a pennant race next year, but I am not putting any money down on that prop bet. Not yet. Lots of nice young arms, but not yet.

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  3. sport_pkl

    4 years ago

    Some where in a pasture full of cows, a poor bull just had his feelings hurt when the farmer read out loud “Bullpen report”.

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    • bobtillman

      4 years ago

      Michael Cohen should be out of jail just in time to litigate for the bull.

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      • Smacky

        4 years ago

        Great timing! He was released from home confinement yesterday. Not sure he’s going to be doing much lawyering though. Might have to settle for Rudy Giuliani.

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    • JeffreyChungus

      4 years ago

      In my household, we call it an Arm Barn. Who knows the extent to which the words we use hurt the feelings of animals?

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      • lady1959

        4 years ago

        Keep it in house ⚾️

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      • Bart Harley Jarvis

        4 years ago

        Hey sailor,
        You might want to rethink your household activities…
        urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=arm%20barn

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        • sfes

          4 years ago

          I love this website

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        • NYMetsFanatic

          4 years ago

          Hilarious!

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  4. positively_broad_st

    4 years ago

    That’s what the Phillies need – a reliever that gives up an increasing number of home runs and allows 4 walks per nine…

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    • DarkSide830

      4 years ago

      limit runs and I dont give a darn how many guys you walk.

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    • ham77

      4 years ago

      I was hoping they would get him a couple of years ago when he was on the trading block, but signing him now when he’s showing signs of decline makes no sense.

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  5. NMK 2

    4 years ago

    Please, someone, anyone sign Familia before he returns to New York again. He and Mejia had great early success, but his three-year deal in Queens was three years too long. The man cannot keep runners off the base or limit damage late in games.

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    • NYMetsFanatic

      4 years ago

      I agree completely. I don’t want to start 2022 off feeling like it’s groundhog day 2021 all over again.

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  6. mister guy

    4 years ago

    I still want to see taylor rogers on the giants so you can have the late inning pair of tyler and taylor rogers – identical twins with totally different pitching styles and handedness

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  7. JeffreyChungus

    4 years ago

    Familia had a weird year. He was well above average in every statcast metric but BB% and Hard Hit%, yet bWAR and fWAR both had him at replacement level. It seems that there’s still some gas in the tank, he just needs some adjustments to kick him back into gear.

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    • tstats

      4 years ago

      War doesn’t care about most statcast metrics

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  8. IjustloveBaseball

    4 years ago

    Givens would be a nice get. While not elite, he’s generally been an above-avg reliever while pitching his entire career in hitter friendly parks.

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  9. bygserch

    4 years ago

    as a die hard Mets fan, and a one time Familia fan, I can safely say that Fam’s 3.94 ERA may look “solid,” but he was indeed a train wreck of a reliever. At the end of the day, a relievers job is 3 fold:
    don’t allow inherited runners to score
    don’t give up the tying run, whether he crosses the plate or he’s in scoring position for the next guy
    don’t blow any holds/saves

    he may have left appearances with the lead intact slightly more often than not, but he let inherited runners score, or left the appearance with a shyt situation for the next guy.

    fans of whatever team that signs him or fans who want him, BEWARE. If your coach can unlock his 2014/15 ways of being a pitcher NL East hitters wrote themselves in a Players Tribune article as a top 3 pitcher they hate facing, then great. But we’ll be coming up on 7, 8 years since that guy pitched… anything more than 3 mil 1 year deal for this guy is a gross overpay

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    • bygserch

      4 years ago

      forgot to put a new paragraph after “don’t blow any holds/saves” and can’t edit a comment…sorry… imagine a new paragraph right after that lol

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    • Ted

      4 years ago

      Familia is better than average at stranding inherited runners.

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  10. Tomas7

    4 years ago

    I thought the Mets would have made loup a priority, sorry to see him go, does anyone know what the Mets could be thinking? Should be interesting to see what the opening day roster will look like.

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  11. masisk33

    4 years ago

    Extend Byron Buxton

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  12. HBan22

    4 years ago

    No thanks to Familia. Would rather have Givens.

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  13. Rsox

    4 years ago

    If the Sox are going to go after Familia they would probably be better off just bringing Hansel Robles back instead

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    • Michael Macaulay-Birks

      4 years ago

      100%

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  14. jim stem

    4 years ago

    Familia had a solid season?? Since when is a 3.94 era for a reliever good? Not to mention, how many inherited runners scored? Trust me, every single time he entered the game, we held our collective breath. You also have to start him in a clean inning because it often takes him three batters to find the strike zone. Familia’s best case scenario is mop up or using him with a 4 run lead.

    Then again, maybe he goes to Seattle or Toronto and ‘suddenly’ figures it out, like he did in Oakland.

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  15. jim stem

    4 years ago

    Familia had 9 wins, walked a batter every other inning and gave up 10 homers in less than 60 innings. He blew a lot of non-save games (tied) and ended up with a win. Never trust him in a game that’s tight.

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  16. KD17

    4 years ago

    Speculation when it comes to Bloom is over-rated. The illogical thinking always leads to surprise and unpredictable moves. I have faith that the off season pick-ups will be just as unpredictable as past moves and unfortunately just as illogical.

    Let’s just hope magic happens next year so it’s not another 2020.

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  17. redhaze1

    4 years ago

    Why would the Reds not resign Givens??????? He solidified a weak bullpen. Solid setup guy or possible closer. The fan base is getting tired of starting over every season. We deserve better.

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  18. txman22

    4 years ago

    So Familia had a good year? I must’ve only watched his bad games when he gave up HRs to tie or make a close game no longer close. Wished I saw his “good” games.

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  19. josebatista89

    4 years ago

    Boy Mets fans were is your boy Stevie Choen’s money? LOL. First you strike out on Theo Epstein, Billy Beane, David Stearns. Then you strike out on those second-tier gals; and guys in Ferreira, Arnold. Now you let Noah walk, and can’t even bring back a home-grown kid from LI in Matz. I agree he isn’t worth 4 years idk what the Card’s are smoking or drinking. But come on you could have given Noah a two-year deal at 25 mill and he probably would have stayed.

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    • imissjoebuzas

      4 years ago

      Noah for 25M for 2? He got $ 21M for ONE year. Dont you think he’d het more than $4M foe another?

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      • imissjoebuzas

        4 years ago

        Trading in my phone after that last comment. Sorry everyone.

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  20. Bob333

    4 years ago

    Don’t forget Aaron Loup walked too.He said he wanted to stay but once again I guess Mr.Money Bags Cohen was turned down again.DRAMA is chasing everyone from this team.

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