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Phillies In “Serious” Pursuit Of Nick Castellanos

By Steve Adams | March 18, 2022 at 10:30am CDT

10:30am: Morosi tweets that the two sides are indeed making progress on a contract. Jim Salisbury of NBC Sports Philadelphia tweets that the Phillies are indeed “on” Castellanos. As Salisbury points out, owner John Middleton has said in the past he’d exceed the luxury tax for the “right opportunity.”

MLB Network’s Jon Heyman tweets that the Marlins and Reds remain involved, although it’s nearly impossible to imagine Cincinnati re-signing Castellanos after so aggressively shedding payroll to this point. Meanwhile, Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald again reports that as much as the Marlins like Castellanos, Miami has no intention of signing Castellanos to a contract of five-plus years and $100MM or more.

9:45am: One day after agreeing to a four-year deal with Kyle Schwarber, the Phillies are in “serious” pursuit of fellow slugger Nick Castellanos, reports Jayson Stark of The Athletic. MLB.com’s Jon Morosi tweeted last night that the Phils still had some interest in Castellanos even after adding Schwarber. The signing would also assuredly push Philadelphia over the $230MM luxury-tax threshold. Castellanos is represented by the Boras Corporation.

Castellanos, 30, became a free agent back in November after he exercised an opt-out clause and walked away from the final two years and $34MM remaining on a four-year, $64MM contract with the Reds. The decision was eminently foreseeable, given the strength of his production in Cincinnati. The Reds made Castellanos a qualifying offer, which he naturally rejected, meaning he’d cost the Phillies their second-highest pick and $500K from their international bonus pool. The Reds, meanwhile, would stand to gain a compensatory pick after the first round of the 2022 draft, assuming Castellanos signs for more than $50MM in guaranteed money (which seems like a given). In the small chance that he signed for less than that sum, Cincinnati’s comp pick would be pushed back about 40 selections (after Competitive Balance Round B).

Adding Castellanos to a lineup that already includes Schwarber, reigning NL MVP Bryce Harper, All-Star catcher J.T. Realmuto, slugger Rhys Hoskins and the steadily productive Jean Segura would give the Phillies the potential for a dominant lineup — particularly if young talents like Alec Bohm and top prospect Bryson Stott can solidify themselves as big league contributors. As a team, the 2021 Phillies were a middle-of-the-pack group, ranking 13th in the Majors in runs scored (706), 15th in home runs (198), 18th in batting average (.240), 13th in on-base percentage (.318), 14th in slugging percentage (.408) and tied for 18th in wRC+ (93).

Castellanos, who’d presumably split time with Schwarber between left field and the newly created National League designated hitter slot, just wrapped up the finest season of his big league career. In 585 plate appearances with the Reds, he turned in a .309/.362/.576 batting line with a career-high 34 home runs. He doesn’t offer a huge walk rate, but Castellanos strikes out at a lower-than-average rate and is a consistent source of high batting averages and slugging percentages.

Long a steady and productive hitter with his original organization, the Tigers, Castellanos elevated his game to new heights upon being traded to the Cubs in 2019. Since that trade, he’s put together an exceptional .292/.346/.571 batting line with 64 home runs, 70 doubles and three triples in 1052 plate appearances between Chicago and Cincinnati. That production checks in at 34% better than league average, by measure of wRC+, and little about it looks fluky. Castellanos consistently posts hard-hit rates north of 40% and barrel rates north of 10% which, combined with his above-average bat-to-ball skills, leads Statcast to rank him among the game’s leaders in expected batting average and expected slugging percentage on an annual basis.

Of course, adding Castellanos to an already defensively challenged team whose signature offseason addition thus far was the defensively challenged Schwarber creates its own concerns. Castellanos has improved his defense in right field since first moving off third base earlier in his career, but he still rates as a well below-average defender in either corner. The 2021 Phillies already ranked last in the Majors in Defensive Runs Saved, and that wasn’t an issue unique to last year’s team. The Phillies have ranked among the worst defensive teams in baseball for more than a half decade now, regularly trotting out subpar defenders and embarking on curious defensive experiments that have not proven fruitful (e.g. Rhys Hoskins in left field).

Bringing Castellanos into the mix won’t fix that longstanding organizational flaw, but it’d nevertheless transform an already deepened Phillies lineup into one of the more formidable units in the entire National League. Given that the Phils also have a strong rotation — Zack Wheeler, Aaron Nola, Zach Eflin, Ranger Suarez, Kyle Gibson — the hope would be that strong starting pitching and a potentially unyielding lineup could carry the day in spite of suspect glovework and a bullpen that has several question marks.

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  1. Tacoshells

    3 years ago

    They have money ?

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    • bhambrave

      3 years ago

      They’ve always had money.

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      • Tacoshells

        3 years ago

        Sweet

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      • braves fan 138

        3 years ago

        The NL East is going to be more stacked, this division is getting ridiculous now

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        • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

          3 years ago

          To watch Castellanos play the outfield is like watching Ozuna. Sometimes a big bat means little field.
          Kinda like why I don’t like the DH
          Minimal players get to keep playing.

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    • coolhandneil

      3 years ago

      All teams have money. Just depends on if they want to spend it or pocket it.

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    • broadstreetbully 2

      3 years ago

      Phillies are one of the big market teams, what are you smoking ?

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  2. Hello, Newman

    3 years ago

    “This is it.. Don’t get scared now” Kevin McCallister

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  3. Dustyslambchops23

    3 years ago

    Good, they should do this. Help Harper

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  4. DarkSide830

    3 years ago

    For the longest time I was very negative on Schwarber and Nick. I hope I’m not just buying into the hype.

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    • Rangers29

      3 years ago

      Well Dombro is buying into the hype… quite literally

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      • DarkSide830

        3 years ago

        Dombrowski was in Detroit in the past. I trust he knows what Nick delivers.

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      • Highest IQ

        3 years ago

        Rangers29 *Dumbro

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        • PhanaticDuck26

          3 years ago

          Wow, what a “high IQ” comment there. Did you think of that one all by yourself?

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    • gibbs58

      3 years ago

      Outhit the bad D

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    • Ma4170

      3 years ago

      Nick has been consistent upper tier offense for years now… the D? Terrible… but maybe they DH him more often than not

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    • Prospectnvstr

      3 years ago

      DarkSide: I’ve always been negative re Schwarber but I’ve been pretty high on Castellanos.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        Definitely more upside with Casellanos.

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  5. Roughed Odor

    3 years ago

    It is amazing that the Phillies have that high of a payroll and I still think of them as just an ok team.

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    • ham77

      3 years ago

      This will make them more than just ok. That lineup would be a nightmare for opposing pitchers. Of course they still need to pitch and play D, so I expect many high scoring games.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        The Phillies have a very solid rotation 1-5, but if one of them gets hurt, they’re screwed. They currently have the worst defense ever constructed, so I expect some trades with our without this signing.

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        • Ma4170

          3 years ago

          But that middle of the lineup would be nice

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        • cheesesteak

          3 years ago

          If they sign Castellanos, I wouldn’t be surprised if they move Hoskins for pitching depth. Phils need a 6th/ long reliever, all five aren’t making 32 starts.

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      • Seahawks19081

        3 years ago

        I feel they will pitch enough to win games, but that defense is atrocious.

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  6. tigers_fan_inatl

    3 years ago

    Dombrowski chasing Castellanos again… that’s a lot of 2024 DH’s.

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  7. Camden453

    3 years ago

    So long second-highest selection in next year’s draft, as well as $500,000 from international bonus pool for the upcoming signing period

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  8. philsrock

    3 years ago

    Nick’s mother has hinted in a tweet that he’s coming to the Phillies!!

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  9. DanielDannyDano

    3 years ago

    Herrera, Schwarber and Castellanos. What an amazing defensive outfield!

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    • vaderzim

      3 years ago

      *sarcasm intensifies

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    • hoff38

      3 years ago

      Forgetting about Harper playing OF? Schwarber can play some 1B while Nick is in LF. Nick and Schwarber will probably rotate between DH and LF.

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      • WillieMaysHayes24

        3 years ago

        Harper isn’t a good defender anymore. Last season he was worth minus 1.7 dwar, minus 6 defensive runs saved, and minus 6 OAA. Ranked near last amongst qualified Right Fielders in most categories.

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      • stymeedone

        3 years ago

        Two years ago, Harper was the only OF rated below Castellanos. Can’t wait for Herrera to need a day off. Nick in RF, Harper in CF, and Schwarber in LF. Just put it in play, boys!

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        • kje76

          3 years ago

          This would be makeshift at best. However, all indications are that Matt Vierling is going to platoon with Herrera, so this D black hole should not be an issue.

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        • NationalNightmare

          3 years ago

          As a Nats fan…you do not want Harper in center. Total clown show.

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      • Pete'sView

        3 years ago

        hoff38 — And if they can pitch above the poor defense, what a great one-two-three punch (Harper/Schwarber/Castellanos). I just don’t think they’ve got enough pitching to contend, although with so much of the league in the playoffs . . .

        But if Giants don’t sign Story, I hope they sign Nick.

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    • Captain Dunsel

      3 years ago

      Bryce Harper says hello.

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    • pt57

      3 years ago

      Don’t forgot Bohm at 3d.

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    • cadagan

      3 years ago

      Hoskins can give them a rest when needed. Matt Joyce may come back and help too.

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      • Astros2017&22Champs

        3 years ago

        Maybe shane victorino still owns a glove?

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          @Astros said to say, but Shane was the Phillies last good regular CF. It’s been that long.

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        • Pete'sView

          3 years ago

          Phillies should try to trade with Giants and get Duggar or (if they want a RH) Slater — both great gloves.

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        • cpdpoet

          3 years ago

          I thought A.C. Slater played football and wrestled….?

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  10. LordD99

    3 years ago

    2022 Phillies—Defense: Optional.

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      3 years ago

      Even with a DH, this could be the worst defense ever. The Bad News Phillies…but the Bears did end up winning.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        If this signing happens, some fan favorites will be traded for defense. I think Hoskins will go.

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        • Cosmo2

          3 years ago

          Garry Maddox where are you?

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        • cheesesteak

          3 years ago

          I said above, I think Hoskins goes for pitching depth.

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      • Idiot_Wind

        3 years ago

        lol the Bears lose at the end of the movie.

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        • Joe It All

          3 years ago

          They don’t lose in the second one when they go to the Astrodome. Let Them Play!

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    • ham77

      3 years ago

      Who needs D? Just mash baby!

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    • Yankee Clipper

      3 years ago

      At least Girardi will be used to it…..

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  11. philsrock

    3 years ago

    Nick’s mom has hinted in a tweet that he’s coming to the Phil’s!! Moms don’t lie.

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  12. PhilliePhan

    3 years ago

    Yes!!!! Let’s just outslug everyone!!

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      3 years ago

      The Gashouse Gorillas are back!

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    • cpdpoet

      3 years ago

      I shall happily accept a bevy of 10-6 wins….

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  13. Mr. E Team

    3 years ago

    I view both Schwarber and Castellanos as streaky hitters. I’d they could get hot at the same time. Phillies could be hard to beat. On the other hand, those could be costly cold spells.

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      3 years ago

      I love Castallanos’ bat which is why I’d put up with his defense and would love for Boston to put him in left, AV in right and yes most of the time JBJ in center with Hernandez playing second.

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      • KYLE LLEWELLYN

        3 years ago

        Arroyo is gonna mash this year

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          3 years ago

          Can’t stay healthy and is therefore unreliable.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      @geg42 You’re essentially describing the entire Phillies lineup.

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  14. uvmfiji

    3 years ago

    Remember Dave doesn’t pay for bullpens

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    • For Love of the Game

      3 years ago

      Dave doesn’t win WS championships either, but he sure spends a lot of the owner’s money.

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      • fuchholz

        3 years ago

        Incorrect

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      • kodiak920

        3 years ago

        No, he has only already won two.

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        • Chemo850

          3 years ago

          For the amount of resources this guy has burned through he should have way more than just two.

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  15. bumpy93

    3 years ago

    please let this be! please for the love of God get him

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  16. Captain Dunsel

    3 years ago

    The Phillies wouldn’t spend the extra money for KK in CF, but they will for Castellanos? Did they forget that they play baseball, not football? In baseball the same players, except for the DH, play both offense AND defense.

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    • PhanaticDuck26

      3 years ago

      To be fair, KK doesn’t really play offense. Nice try tho

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    • DakotaJoe

      3 years ago

      KK has averaged just under missing a third of the season for his career. And now he’s another year older. Why do you think the Rays haven’t been able to trade him?

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      • PhanaticDuck26

        3 years ago

        because it would cost the acquiring team 14 million dollars, and KK simply isn’t worth that.

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  17. Camden453

    3 years ago

    Trades killed the Phillies. Now they’re caught in between. Stuck with star players but no farm. Have to sign free agents, which only makes it worse. But can’t rebuild either

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    • melly

      3 years ago

      What trades killed the Phillies?

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      • Camden453

        3 years ago

        Realmuto, Segura

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          @Camden Phillies won the Realmuto trade. Sixto Sanchez is an injured mess with high potential and the Marlins already gave up on Alfaro and Stewart. So that example doesn’t work. Segura has been very productive for the Phillies, but I did agree on the JP Crawford aspect. If you watch the Phillies, you’d know trades are not the issue at all. It’s the fact that their draft picks have given them nothing. No one has been this unlucky and stupid in drafting and developing in the history of the sport.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      Trades never killed the Phillies. Drafting and scouting did. I can’t think of anything significant lost in a trade other than JP Crawford.

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      • Gwynning

        3 years ago

        Not trying to pile on anybody here… but just notating that the Phils would be purging even more draft pick(s) by signing Castellanos. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t?

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      • melly

        3 years ago

        Thank you. Trades are not the Phillies problem at all. Phillies won the JT trade (so far)… Alfaro not cutting it, Sixto had a flash of brilliance and his ceiling remains high – but he needs to be on the mound to reach that ceiling.

        I still think the Crawford-Segura deal is a wash at worst. Segura has been productive. Crawford is young, he’s solid – but his prospect status was likely a little overblown.

        Phils won the Gibson trade simply because he will give them a 1 1/2 years of solid production in the rotation plus the lotto ticket of Hans Crouse… and they gave up spencer Howard who’s prospect shine has been more than tarnished.

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  18. Rangers29

    3 years ago

    Wow wow wow that defense is gonna suck assssssss

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      It’s already the worst. Nick makes it slightly better tbh, and I don’t mean that as a good thing. This defense is going to be historically bad, but if they sign Nick, they made trade Bohm, Hoskins, Didi and/or Segura for some defense.

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  19. darylict

    3 years ago

    This would put the Phillies on par with the Braves as far as #2 in offense (still behind the Dodgers). Their rotation is solid, but that defense – still terrible. The bullpen? Better, but still might be lacking. It would at least make it an interesting 3-team race in the NL East. Schwarber, Hoskins, Harper, Castellanos, and Realmuto could honestly combine for 170 HRs if they all stay healthy.

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    • ham77

      3 years ago

      No rotation depth which is worrisome and the bullpen could either be really good or really bad with the expensive retreads they just signed.

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      • PhanaticDuck26

        3 years ago

        could quite literally say this about 27/30 teams though

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  20. Joseph Gonzalez

    3 years ago

    He certainly has more value now that the DH is universal. What’s interesting to me about him is he has never walked 50 or more times in a season in his whole career which is very surprising

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  21. bucketbrew35

    3 years ago

    I’m so baffled by all of this. Makes zero sense.

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    • PhanaticDuck26

      3 years ago

      bringing in established sluggers to aid a mediocre lineup? surrounding your MVP player with some MLB talent?

      I get the defensive concerns, I do. But you people moan when they DON’T do anything, and then you cry even more when they DO. I guess some people just enjoy whining no matter what.

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  22. Motown is My Town

    3 years ago

    DD drafted Castellanos so knows him very well. If Phillies sign him, he’ll hit a ton in their ballpark, but with Schwarber in the fold, not sure where they can hide him defensively.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      @JayHeck2158 Schwarber, Hoskins, Bohm, Didi and potentially Casetllanos not a one of them can play average defense. Trades are coming.

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      • Samuel

        3 years ago

        @Von;

        In season maybe. Suspect they may do what the White Sox did last year in signing old OF’s that couldn’t hit but could still field above average – put them in during the later innings.

        With Castellanos they may well have 5 DH’s on that team.

        What the defense will do by not making plays that should be made is run up pitch counts resulting in even more pressure on what is already a questionable bullpen. The Phiilies will win their share of games, and may well be competitive during a good portion of the season (while I think the Mets are better, I’m not sold on them as an upper level team). However, at some point no matter how well their pitching coaches may succeed in calibrating the bullpen guys, their arms will be falling off by the stretch run.

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  23. dmbphils27

    3 years ago

    LFGGGG

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  24. Steve MacPherson

    3 years ago

    Dombrowski is the best check writer in the business.

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  25. VonPurpleHayes

    3 years ago

    Phillies are going for a scary lineup, but an all-time scary defense…in a bad way. Wouldn’t it make more sense to go over the tax for Story or Correa?

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  26. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    3 years ago

    Wow. He opted out of 2 years/$34M to 3 years/$52M, so I am guessing he’d only sign for a minimum of 3 years/$60M and is aiming for four years/$78M or so…. so that’s what I think.

    I think if the Phillies sign Castellanos, he’s going to get a nearly identical deal to Schwarber. 4 years/$79M.

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    • vtadave

      3 years ago

      I’d guess 5/110.

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      • kje76

        3 years ago

        If it’s essentially down to the Phillies (with “interest” but very unlikely real competition from the Reds and Marlins), then even Boras isn’t going to have a ton of leverage.

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  27. beyou02215

    3 years ago

    Tough call. Huge home/road splits last year and he’s only going to get worse defensively as he gets older.

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  28. Edp007

    3 years ago

    Potential to be a really tough lineup to face if the younger guys blossom

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  29. Sid Bream Speed Demon

    3 years ago

    They still won’t finish higher than third, and their defense is going to be all-time bad.

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  30. Justplayball@13

    3 years ago

    Maybe just maybe they are starting to listen to their fan base to get off their butts and make some bold moves.
    Neither of them are worth a darn in the field, but I sure like the bats.
    Over on the payroll this year and back under next year when they dump Didi and some others.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      Listening to your fan base is not a good thing, especially in Philly and I’m a Phillies fan.

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      • PhanaticDuck26

        3 years ago

        good thing they’re not listening to you; you’ve hated every move they’ve made. are you sure you’re not a Mets fan in disguise, just rooting for the Phils to fail.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          raltongo I liked the Knebel move. That’s about it. If they go over the tax I’ll be happy. Not sure if Nick is the player to do it for, but at least it’ll be exciting. Fans are allowed to be critical of their team, especially if their team has been a mess for 11 years. I don’t think fans should accept mediocrity.

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        • PhanaticDuck26

          3 years ago

          right but they are actively making a SERIOUS attempt at competing, and yet you’re pissed. I guess I just don’t get it. This really should be a good time for some optimism, but I guess that’s just me.

          I’m critical when they lose. I was downright furious at the trade deadline last year when the Braves and Phils were side-by-side in the division. The Braves saw their weakness (OF) and addressed it head-on with guys who absolutely killed it down the stretch and into the playoffs. The Phils, on the other hand, did not. AA outplayed us, big time. Credit to him. That was my time to be critical and negative; signing two top sluggers to protect Harper would seem to be a different situation, I would think…

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          Sorry, but I’m not pissed. I simply don’t think they made good moves. Schwarber replacing Cutch doesn’t get me thrilled. It improves the lineup slightly. I’m not criticizing signing Castellanos. The Phillies haven’t done it. If they sign Nick, I think they move Hoskins and/or Bohm to improve the infield defense. We’ll see. But come on. They signed Schwarber and some older relievers they’re hoping will bounceback. None of this improves the team much. Castellanos? That’s a game changer, but they need defense. Two of the best SS are there for the taking. That’s the move I make if you want to spend.

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      • cpdpoet

        3 years ago

        I’m not really sure what’s the issue…..? The 3 rotate the DH spot:
        Hoskins 1b/DH
        Schwarber lf/1b/DH
        Castellanos LF/RF/DH

        If all stay healthy and play @150 games…..Realmuto has said he does not prefer to DH, so he’s in the mix for 1b as well….As stated earlier, 10-6 wins are fine with this guy..

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  31. Unclenolanrules

    3 years ago

    Good luck Phillies fans. Better hope you can score more runs than your relief pitchers will give up.

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    • PhanaticDuck26

      3 years ago

      um, isn’t that… the entire point of the game?

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  32. brian214

    3 years ago

    If you would’ve told me we were signing 2 of the 3 guys we were supposedly targeting I would’ve thought KB and either Castellanos OR Schwarber. All I can say is we need to pray for our pitchers either striking out a ton of hitters or inducing a bunch of grounders.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      With this defense, grounders are terrifying. All contact is dangerous. Teams could bunt their way to victory. If…and I do mean IF the Phillies sign Nick, I expect some big trades. Hoskins, Bohm, Segura, Didi are all going to be on the table. You can’t field a baseball team with all DHs. It’s embarrassing. DD has something up his sleeve.

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      • EasternLeagueVeteran

        3 years ago

        DD will just bring the fences in, and play home run derby games all year. For both teams the name of the game will be launch angle.

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      • Samuel

        3 years ago

        @ VonPurpleHayes;

        I’d guess if Maton and/or Stott can play some, they’ll move Segura in-season for a relief pitcher that’s doing OK in 2022…maybe blow it out and include a so-so prospect or bench player and get 2 relief pitchers.

        Since the Phillies have cash and not much else, they’ll eat some of Segura’s salary.

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        • kje76

          3 years ago

          Didi could also fall into this concept. Not as much value on the market, though.

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  33. Braveslifer

    3 years ago

    Is this NC’s agent doing some marketing?

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  34. norcalblue

    3 years ago

    What…..no Prellar? More to come, no doubt…

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  35. Milwaukee-2208

    3 years ago

    Padres L city if they don’t get him

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  36. dlw0906

    3 years ago

    As the Mets sit on their hands self-satisfied at the B-grade offense they have created with more question marks than the Riddler’s unitard and more holes than Swiss cheese.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      @dlwo906 Mets sit on their hands? They had the busiest and arguably best offseason in history. Outside of 4-5 players, they’re completely store bought (and I don’t mean that as a bad thing). Mets fans should not be complaining about an inactive GM..

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    • jim stem

      3 years ago

      @dlw
      Why do still say the Mets defense is so bad? If I’m not mistaken, they may have been top 10.

      Escobar 3b (over Davis+)
      Lindor ss
      McNeil 2b (over Cano)
      Dom 1b (over Pete)
      Nimmo LF (over Dom)
      Marte CF (over Nimmo+)
      Canha RF (over Conforto)
      McCann C – throws well

      I don’t see defense being an issue, especially with Guillorme available.

      Ps. Cubs will like Villar’s defense at 3B.

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  37. roiste

    3 years ago

    Phillies shooting for the illustrious “worst defense in modern history” title. Between Schwarber, Hoskins, Castellanos, and Bohm, they’d have four DHs in their starting lineup, which is pretty remarkable

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    • drasco036

      3 years ago

      Don’t forget about Didi…

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  38. drasco036

    3 years ago

    Phillies realize that they can only have one DH right?

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  39. fathead0507

    3 years ago

    Going over the luxury tax to finish 3rd in the East.. classic

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  40. dclivejazz

    3 years ago

    At least the Phillies are trying. NL East could be very interesting this year. Then again, we say that every year…

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  41. Chemo850

    3 years ago

    Dude…I’m watching every game the Phillies play next year. Between that defense and their yearly bullpen meltdowns it’s gonna be must watch tv

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    • rodcarew

      3 years ago

      And games over five hours long…

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    • Dorothy_Mantooth

      3 years ago

      You should watch them this year too.

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      • Bart Harley Jarvis

        3 years ago

        Nice catch, Dot.

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  42. metsie1

    3 years ago

    Really strengthens the defense. LOL.

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    • Rsox

      3 years ago

      Apparently the motto is “the best defense is a good offense”?

      Reply
  43. davidk1979

    3 years ago

    So they’ll have four Designated hitters in Schwarber, Bohm, Castellanos and Hoskins lol.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      If this signing happens, Hoskins is gone. I’m calling it.

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      • bhambrave

        3 years ago

        Hoskins to the Marlins?

        Edit: Nevermind. Not enough years of control.

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      • cheesesteak

        3 years ago

        Hoskins and prospects for John Means.

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    • SaintChris

      3 years ago

      Harper and Gregorious are also terrbile defenders. Don’t forget them.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        Harper’s stats are misleading. I would not call him a terrible defender. Middling to slightly below average.

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  44. Astros2017&22Champs

    3 years ago

    Could be a terrible outfield but a sick lineup

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  45. darylict

    3 years ago

    I do have to chuckle slightly about all the defense comments. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not good. But LF is the only spot changing from last season’s starting 8. I think I’ll take the swap defensively for offense w/ Cutch to Schwarber/Castellanos. One thing that I think will also happen if Bohm still struggles defensively is that they’ll move Gregorious to 3B when Stott arrives – will improve the 2 most problematic positions.

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    • Cosmo2

      3 years ago

      As a Met fan let me say, gambling on winning with poor defense not only often fails, it fails ugly.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        @Cosmo2 As a Phillies fan let me say, we’ve already seen how bad defense plays out…last year. Technically the defense isn’t any worse than it was last year and it was not pretty. I honestly think at least 50% of the bullpens problem’s stem from the bad defense. Basically I’m agreeing with you.

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        • wright1970

          3 years ago

          Von, i think u guys will finish 2nd in the division behind only the Braves. the Mets offense will suck just like every year. We can have 10 deGroms but it wont matter when we cant score runs. im not impressed with this Met team at all….

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          @wright1970 I’m not even sure the Phillies as currently constructed can finished above the Marlins let alone the Mets and Braves. Obviously if they sign Nicky C, their lineup is incredible. So I’d move them up in the standings, but I don’t think they’re realistically going to go over the tax for a bad defender.

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        • jim stem

          3 years ago

          @von
          I’d bet Harper reworks his contract (longer/same money) if it meant putting this team into contention.

          Phils will hit with or without Castellanos, but will they hold the opponent under 8 runs?

          Nola is #4 at best. Gibson pitches to contact. Eflin is a solid but not dominant 4, Suarez was incredible last year, but how far past 130 innings does he go?

          I think the advantage the Mets have (pitching) is they can run Megill or Peterson out there for 4+ to save the pen. Plus, either one of them can be a solid 5 if needed. Who do the Phillies have if a starter gets blown out early or hurt that can go 4 or 5 innings?

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          Nola is not a #4. He had an off year, but the dude’s a legit #2 if not #1. He’s young too. Mets top 3 starters are elite, so of course they have the better rotation, but Phillies rotation can win in the playoffs…they just can’t seem to get there.

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        • wright1970

          3 years ago

          jim stem, Mets have a solid rotation but wont be able to score runs just like every year….smh

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  46. sailor7175

    3 years ago

    Just get it done!!!!!

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  47. dmbphils27

    3 years ago

    Lets gooo Dombo!!! Bring Casty’s bat to Philly!!! The energy will be electric again at CBP!!

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  48. bhambrave

    3 years ago

    Even though I’m a Braves fan, it’s exciting to see the NL East load up. Now if only the Marlins would sign Jorge Soler and Michael Conforto.

    The Phillies should offer Story a 1/$30M pillow contract.

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  49. RGR

    3 years ago

    The more I see of some of these ludicrous signings this spring, the more i realize that its on the players, during this CBA negotiation and future moves, to save these idiotic owners from themselves!! Like how some can suggest baseball teams dont make money like Manfred did and then have the Phillies sign both Schwarber and Castellanos both of whom cant field even passably and the Dodgers sign Freeman(not to mention the Jays supposed pursuit of him) when they already hv an excellent first baseman and backup options and the Rockies sign Bryant to the silliest contract of them all……a lot of these morons belong in an insane asylum rather than owning a baseball team imho…..shame on MLB for allowing this after trying to outfox the players in negotiations and shame on anyone who backed the owners in the just concluded CBA!!

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    • bhambrave

      3 years ago

      Even though I agree with you, you need to let it go. just enjoy the season.

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    • Astros2017&22Champs

      3 years ago

      Who doesn’t like billionares wasting money?

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  50. SaintChris

    3 years ago

    Someone needs to inform Dombrowski the NL is only getting one DH spot per team, not 5.

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  51. dsett75

    3 years ago

    If the hitters can just get it to the OF, they’ll be able to run forever, lol. That OF defense is going to be atrocious!

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      Good arms, but they’ll be dropping pop-ups.

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      • DarkSide830

        3 years ago

        that’s still an upgrade over Cutch, sadly

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          Yea. You’re not wrong. Nick or Scwarbs over Cutch.

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  52. LFGMets (Metsin7)

    3 years ago

    Mets what are you doing? Our lineup has holes, Castellanos would be the perfect fit at DH. Offer 4 years 80 mil

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    • jim stem

      3 years ago

      I think Pete is manning DH with Dom at 1b. I don’t know how Buck is going to decide how to get both Dom and Cano at bats. You never take Pete’s bat out of the lineup if he’s healthy.

      Dom/Cano left
      McNeil/Cano left
      Who sits against righties, Pete?

      No lineup is better without Pete in it because nobody has as big a homerun threat on any given pitch. I don’t care about right on right vs left on right because none of those guys will have a better slugging percentage than Pete against righties. Plus, Pete gets better pitches for the guys in front of him.

      Cano should get one start a week and be the first left handed bat to pinch hit.

      Dom double switches in for defense when Pete starts at first.

      Until Cano pulls a hammy or has his juice spiked, it’s a logjam on that side of the infield.

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      • Cosmo2

        3 years ago

        Cano should sit on the bench. Problem solved.

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  53. brucenewton

    3 years ago

    Phillies don’t give two hoots about defense.

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  54. Rsox

    3 years ago

    Lots of solo Home Runs are going to be hit with that lineup. If the Phillies were going to go over the luxury tax they should have done it for more pitching. Even with Wheeler the Braves, Mets, and Marlins have better rotations

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      Phillies rotation is severely underrated. I think it’s very good, but needs some backend depth. A full year of Suarez and Gibson is going to go a long way. Last year they were rolling out Moore, Velazquez and Anderson. So huge upgrades there. The problems come with someone getting injured or needing rest. There’s no depth. And of course their absolute biggest problem is defense and they’ve done nothing to improve that, but I expect a trade is looming.

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      • Rsox

        3 years ago

        Problem is a trade for what? There are no defensive upgrades really left to be had

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        • Samuel

          3 years ago

          @ Rsox;

          There will be in-season. Teams out of it will want to dump salary and play youngsters.

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      • kje76

        3 years ago

        In all seriousness, who is the #6 starter this season? If Eflin isn’t in the rotation for the first month, who is?

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          Some combo of this: Wheeler, Nola, Suarez, Eflin, Gibson. Crouse, Falter

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        • jim stem

          3 years ago

          @kje
          Wheeler
          Nola
          Hendricks
          Suarez
          Eflin
          …I’m missing somebody.

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        • Rsox

          3 years ago

          Kyle Gibson

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          You’re missing Gibson and Crouse. Falter is an option as well.

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        • kje76

          3 years ago

          Looks around at news stories, it appears possibly Bailey Falter …

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  55. angt222

    3 years ago

    Short porch in LF should allow Castellanos to hit for power and play decent LF.

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    • Cosmo2

      3 years ago

      Castellanos will never “play a decent LF”.

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      • PhanaticDuck26

        3 years ago

        neither did Pat Burrell but he still got a parade

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  56. Puxatony phil

    3 years ago

    Should be fun. Defense is overrated lol. I think Bryce moves to Center.

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    • Cosmo2

      3 years ago

      Disaster on a cracker right there

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      They’re not moving Bryce. Herrera is playing center and although he’s slow he is slightly above average.

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  57. Raps902420

    3 years ago

    Schwarber and Castellanos manning the outfield corners should give a nice confidence boost to philly’s pitching staff.

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  58. drasco036

    3 years ago

    Phillies need to switch direction and target Story… His power will play there and he’s a significant upgrade at the shortstop position both offensively and defensively…. He’s going to give a very similar offensive profile as Castellanos while improving your defensive profile and will cost the Phillies about the same amount of money, if not a bit less.

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  59. Ben K

    3 years ago

    Don’t think my Mets can keep up if our pitching succumbs to injury, which as a realistic fan I have to expect to happen.

    Braves and Phillies lineups (assuming Nick does sign) are going to be brutal to face.

    Mets line-up is good, but def a class below.

    Running Conforto back for another bat makes sense to me.

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    • Canosucks

      3 years ago

      As a Mets fan the Braves, Dodgers and Phillies lineups are definitely better.
      Conforto sucks and can’t hit in the clutch that’s why no one has signed him to date. I would only sign him back for the league minimum since he turned down the QO.
      No Mets fan wants him back; Mets should sign Soler instead but they are to stupid.

      And as a smart sports fan, not to be pretentious, but not thinking with my heart the Mets again are not worth their hype but I am stuck with it as a fan.
      Living out in Angel Honk land for 12 years I am also an avid Angel fan since it does not conflict; I am more excited about the Angels with the demise of Oakland in the division.

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  60. BillGiles

    3 years ago

    Makes no sense unless they trade Hoskins

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      If they make this move, trades will follow.

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  61. rememberthecoop

    3 years ago

    “serious pursuit”? And here I thought they were joking around.

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  62. DadsInDaniaBeach

    3 years ago

    A lot of doom and gloom….I happen to like this move if it takes place..I can live with below average D with that possible lineup..
    Mickey Moniac just didn’t catch a pop fly in righty field..He’s supposed to be a decent outfielder..It just isn’t going to be that big of a deal…Remember the pen blew 30 plus saves last year..once again, they have gone out to address that …does anyone think that will be repeated again? I don’t.
    I’m going to love the runners being waved around 3rd base..

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    • PhanaticDuck26

      3 years ago

      should be a few more slow trots around third base, hopefully 🙂

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  63. andymeyer

    3 years ago

    Hey if you’re defense is going to be awful, might as well score as much as possible. 😀

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  64. Drjohnrock

    3 years ago

    The Marlins and Reds still involved? I doubt that, at least when it comes to the Reds. Castellanos did say he would consider an offer from the Reds. But that was before they did a salary dump and got rid of Gray, Winker, Suarez, et al. Even if the Reds did decide to make him a good offer, I doubt he would take it. He wants to go to a competitor. As a long time Reds fan, I’m sorry to say the team definitely won’t be competitive in 2022.

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  65. Mike9559

    3 years ago

    The Phillies sign Schwarber and the negative comments follow. (They should have signed Bryant!). Now they might sign another big bat that combined could be less than Bryant and the negative comments again follow. BTW, both Schwarber and Castellanos are superior hitters that Bryant. I like the moves.

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    • DadsInDaniaBeach

      3 years ago

      A lot of the negativity is not coming from Phans. Yes, some wanted others..I am convinced this team is better than the team that finished 2nd to the Bravos. Once again, I think the pen is better and I don’t think DD is done.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      I would be thrilled to see them go over the tax. Even a poorly constructed team with terrible defense would be super exciting to watch with their lineup. But I also don’t buy this rumor. They’re also looking at a Austin Meadows trade which seems more likely. But don’t get me wrong, if they sign Nick, I’m pumped to watch baseball. As of right now, I’m not excited for this roster. Castellanos changes that.

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  66. Mike9559

    3 years ago

    The Phillies two World Series Championship teams had Greg Luzinski and Pat Burrell in left field!

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      Shane Victorino and Jayson Werth played great D though.

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  67. jim stem

    3 years ago

    Phil’s front office has petitioned the Commissioner’s office to allow for 3 DH’s in any daily starting lineup to make up for all the years of NOT utilizing it.

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  68. DadsInDaniaBeach

    3 years ago

    I do like the new rumor that the Phils are interested in trying to pry Austin Meadows from the Rays..
    I wonder if there is anything to it..

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    • PhanaticDuck26

      3 years ago

      I was all on board with that early in the off-season, when I thought they’d only have one big FA signing and one trade (for bats). I was loving a KB/Story signing with a Meadows addition for LF/DH. Now, though, Meadows REALLY doesn’t make much sense with Schwarber and (maybe) Nick C

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  69. phillyballers

    3 years ago

    Still need a BP

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  70. hopper15

    3 years ago

    Phillies defense if they add Castellanos:

    1B Hoskins: -7 DRS
    2B Segura: +5 DRS
    SS Gregorius: -10 DRS
    3B Bohm: -13 DRS
    Total infield DRS: -25

    LF Schwarber/Castellanos: -6/-7 OAA
    CF Herrera/Haseley: +5/-2 OAA
    RF Harper: -6 OAA

    Could be one of the worst defensive teams ever.

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