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Brewers Notes: Stearns, Deadline, Rosenthal

By Darragh McDonald | August 14, 2022 at 8:09pm CDT

The contractual status of Brewers’ president of baseball operations David Stearns continues to be shrouded in mystery. It was once believed that 2022 was the final year of his contract, until it was reported in October of last year that Milwaukee had some sort of option over Stearns for 2023. In February, it emerged that Stearns was actually under contract for 2023 but could opt out of the deal if the Brewers reached the World Series in 2022. That was followed by a report in May from Jon Heyman of the New York Post that it was “believed” Stearns could actually opt out if Milwaukee reached the NLCS.

In another piece from Heyman in recent days, he hedges that a bit, saying that it’s “unconfirmed” whether the Brew Crew need to reach the NLCS or the World Series. Of course, the reason that all this is so newsworthy is that the Mets have been trying to pluck the New York native from Milwaukee for essentially the past year. The Brewers denied their request to interview him this winter, given the two years that were then remaining on his contract. The Mets eventually hired Billy Eppler to serve as general manager, but could theoretically still hire Stearns in the future as well, perhaps with the president of baseball operations title he currently holds in Milwaukee. Stearns would no doubt be intrigued by moving to New York, not just because he’s from there. The Mets also have significantly higher spending power, running out a $264MM Opening Day payroll this year, doubling the $132MM number of the Brewers.

Of course, those budgetary concerns were the primary motivator of the recent Josh Hader trade. As noted in the above report from Heyman, the club then tried to compensate for Hader’s loss by boosting the lineup. They apparently tried to acquire Brandon Drury and Josh Bell, losing the bidding to the Padres in both cases. They also targeted Joc Pederson, though the Giants decided against a major selloff and didn’t end up trading him. Joey Gallo was also considered, though he ended up going to the Dodgers instead. Perhaps due to the their lackluster deadline or perhaps coincidentally, the club has gone 4-7 this month, letting the NL Central lead slip to the Cardinals, with the Brewers now 1 1/2 games back.

As for the club’s Hader-less bullpen, Stearns acquired other pitchers to try and make up that loss, with one of those being Trevor Rosenthal. The righty has previously been one of the best relievers in the sport, but injuries have limited him to less than 40 total innings since the end of the 2018 campaign. He was signed by the Giants a couple of weeks before the deadline this year and immediately placed on the injured list due to a hamstring issue. The Brewers picked him up at the deadline in a high-risk move that would potentially have a high reward if Rosenthal could return to his previous form. We are on the verge of finding out whether it pays off or not, as Rosenthal told reporters, including Todd Rosiak of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, that he’s going on a rehab assignment this week. He also added that he recently touched 98 mph in a workout. His most recent action was in the shortened 2020 season, when he threw 23 2/3 innings with a 1.90 ERA along with an incredible 41.8% strikeout rate. If he can get anywhere close to that level here this year, he’ll give the Brewers a much-needed boost down the stretch.

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  1. Samuel

    3 years ago

    The Brewers need more than picking up a few players at the deadline. A lot more.

    Would be surprised if David Stearns isn’t with the Mets by January 1 at the latest.

    If he was going to stay with the Brewers it seems that would have been announced some time ago to avoid speculative articles like this one.

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    • HiAndTight

      3 years ago

      They really didn’t though. They needed health and then they just need to get hot.

      They were 3rd in OPS in the NL and 6th in all of MLB in runs scored. They tried to add a few bats, but they didn’t want to give up the likes of Turang, Frelick, Black, Weimer or Mitchell in order to do so. Hard to argue with that.

      The Hader trade…they screwed up letting Lamet go for nothing, but it make sense is Rosenthal is ready to come back. Bush looks incredible, Williams is filthy, Rogers…eh, he’s proven, but he’s struggling. But throw in Topa, Cousins and then Rosenthal, three more power arms on their way back and the BP is better now than it was before the trade and the lineup…well, it doesn’t look pretty, but MLB is at a 56 year low for BA.

      So it’s a good thing they’re developing a WHOLE lot of players who put the ball in play and don’t come with huge strikeout numbers.

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      • Bud Selig Fan

        3 years ago

        This team will win or lose based on its pitching dominance. They haven’t had that this year mostly due to injury. With Peralta back & healthy, Houser almost done with his rehab, the rotation is almost back to being a huge strength.

        Stearns fixed the teams biggest weakness at the deadline (bullpen depth) adding Bush, Rosenthal, and yes, trading Hader. Addition by subtraction. Hader’s release point is way off and he has no idea where the ball is going leaving his hand. He’s now SD’s issue.

        This team, under Counsell, when it’s backs have been against wall late in the season have always won and won a lot. I’m seeing a repeat of September’s past, namely ‘18 & ‘19 and another strong finish and central title.

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        • Samuel

          3 years ago

          Hello Bud Selig Fan;

          I’ve been watching them some and have been disappointed.

          Yes, the Brewers are based on pitching and defense. Their weakness is not the bullpen. Their weakness is offense. It’s not about overall offensive statistics. It’s about producing at turning points in a game.

          In 2021 Willy Adames and Rowdy Tellez were brought in during the season and provided sparks as well as big hits (and Adames stability on D). Sparks and big hits are lacking so far in 2022, while those two are showing why their former teams thought them expendable. The current Andrew McCutchen is a great person, but not guy a contender wants as their main run producer. The team has looked flat most of the year. The configuration of the offense might work if they have 2-3 speedsters in the lineup that do some base stealing to both manufacture runs and keep defenses off balance.

          Yes, Stearns and Counsell are brilliant, so we’ll see.

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        • sandytolan

          3 years ago

          Hope you’re right, Taylor!

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        • Bud Selig Fan

          3 years ago

          @Samuel—

          Agree the offense is flawed, and the defense has underperformed most of the year until recently. But the starting pitching is getting healthy & by fixing the bullpen, Stearns has given this team a chance to finish strong, which I believe they will do.

          The Brewers farm system has 5 big-league ready or near big-league ready positional prospects that Stearns can use to start to transform his lineup over the next couple of years beginning as early as this September with Sal Frelick knocking at the big-league door after destroying minor-league pitching all year.

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        • Spike Hyzer

          3 years ago

          He does sound like Taylor (and how many aliases prior?)!

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        • Spike Hyzer

          3 years ago

          It is the best offense of the Stearns era.
          When the pitching gets fully healthy, that could be more dangerous in the playoffs than in the past.
          The right deal just wasn’t there for an impact bat.
          The Hader deal was a smart one and the team will adjust. I think they can still win the division and the national media is vastly overrating the Cards.
          We’ll see.

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        • Samuel

          3 years ago

          Bud Selig Fan;

          I do view this as a take a step back year.

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  2. Manfred’s playing with the balls

    3 years ago

    Brewers, please pay this man before the Mets do.
    Sincerely every fan outside of the NL central

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    • Louholtz22

      3 years ago

      No shirt. Pay him. 4 straight years in the postseason after years of futility, is worth it.

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      • arjee

        3 years ago

        Hell, I’d say throw in a shirt if that keeps him.

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    • HiAndTight

      3 years ago

      The Brewers have paid him. He’s one of the highest paid President’s of Baseball Ops in MLB.

      Matt Arnold is also a VERY important and very good GM who’ll likely step in-in the event that Stearns leaves.

      Steans loves Milwaukee…I know that. And he badly wants to see his long term vision for the franchise play out. He’s developed the pitching(and there’s still some more on the way)…and now a wave of bats in a race against time to get up and be productive by the time Burnes/Woodruff become FAs.
      But he’s also from NY, grew up rooting for the Mets and got his start with the Mets.

      I think the chances he leaves for the Mets are about 40/60 at this point.
      Hell, he may have already signed an extension as there were rumors he was negotiating a 2 year extension.

      Whatever happens, he’s put the Brewers in a fantastic position to remain competitive for years to come.

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  3. afsooner02

    3 years ago

    I used to be a staunch Sterns defender but man he’s made some bad moves lately. That Hader trade seems absolutely awful. Even if Hader blows up and is never the same for the Padres, the return he got wasn’t overall mind blowing for a closer seen as one of the best in the game. He’s already released one player he traded for that had potential….so why’d we get him? The Padres closer hasn’t been anything but crap since getting here. The only hope is the outfielder but he’s down in AAA awaiting his call up.

    Add on to that the team needed hitting in the worst way to compete this year and he got nothing at the deadline. So on the surface it looks like we traded away our biggest trade chip, when there wasn’t any rush to do so, for an underwhelming return and we just gave up on the season.

    We won’t even cover the yelich boat anchor contract and how that will limit the franchise for the next 6 years and beyond.

    For as good as he has been putting together one of the best pitching staffs in the majors, he can not seem to build a lineup that can hit. At this point the brewers are another wild card 1 and done in the playoffs. Generally that is good enough for us, but after 3 years in a row (not counting the 2020 short year) making the playoffs and not making a WS…..we’re a small market team….the window for competing until fire sale time is closing soon. Either they win soon or it’s back to rebuilding time for a few years.

    I appreciate all he’s done here but I don’t know if he’s ever going to get us over the hump. If the Mets take him, I have all confidence we will get the next up and coming young sabremetrics guy and start over…..or we will just lose a bunch which Milwaukee fans are used to anyway. Why do you think we’re the best tailgaters in the sport?

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    • Louholtz22

      3 years ago

      Afsooner02, what bad moves lately? Do you mean, Hader? He’s already blown up in a game for SD. The Crew will never win a WS unless the team gets hot at the right time. They’re competitive. I suffered long enough. At least they have a chance.

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    • iverbure

      3 years ago

      Why don’t fans understand baseball playoffs are a crapshoot, get there enough times and you have a decent shot at winning. That’s how mid market teams should all operate. This nonsensical go all in every year is a good way never to actually win.

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      • mike127

        3 years ago

        bure—yes, the baseball playoffs are a crapshoot—BUT with the continued layers being added it gets more and more difficult….can the Brewers beat the Mets in a short series? Yes! Can they beat the Braves in a short series? Yes! Can they beat the Dodgers in a short series? Yes!

        But–can they beat the Mets, the Braves, and the Dodgers all in back to back to back series—-the odds get much worse now than every before.

        Of course it can happen, by there is now and awful lot of “crapshooting” that has to go on to win it all.

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    • Cubsinmn

      3 years ago

      Yelich won an MVP for Milwaukee. Gimme a break. They swung big when they had to.

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      • MannyPineappleExpress9

        3 years ago

        @Cubsinmn Yelich was coming off a busted kneecap and already had lingering back issues. Plus I believe 2 years left on his deal. They didn’t have to, and shouldn’t have done anything until he showed he was healthy and playing well.

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        • Led Hoyer

          3 years ago

          I think the new contract just started this year. In fairness he was coming off an mvp and 2nd place in MVp voting when he signed the deal. It looked like a steal. No clue how he fell off a cliff so fast. I think they will be paying him deferred money until he’s 50. At least he still gets on base.

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        • Let MLB use PEDs

          3 years ago

          The same thing that happened to Cody Bellinger, Manfred changed the ball after 2019 was the HR derby. Why would anyone sign these guys to long term deals when manfred can have rawlings make lumpy balls that fall apart when hit. That’s if you believe what players are saying.

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        • flamingbagofpoop

          3 years ago

          There were plenty of people that pointed out it certainly wasn’t a steal at the time. But yes, there were more people that thought they knew what they were talking about calling it one.

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        • Led Hoyer

          3 years ago

          Possibly. If they got 3-4 more years of production like his 2018-2019 seasons it was a steal. It’s on pace to make Heywards contract look good. 6 more years of subpar defense league average batting is a disaster.

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        • HiAndTight

          3 years ago

          Yup. That’s…that’s not good.

          I think it was clearly the back. People point to the knee injury, but he was still hitting for power, excellent exit velocity in 2020, just a short, fluke sample size.
          ’21 and ’22, the way he’s hit the ball has been very different.

          I also understand the extension. It was team friendly…at the time. Doesn’t mean I’m loving it right now, it sucks. But, it is what it is.

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        • HiAndTight

          3 years ago

          Well…Yelich had the bad back, Bellinger had the shoulder injury. Both are…pretty catastrophic baseball injuries.

          Or if you believe it was the knee injury for Yelich…which as I just said, I don’t given the exit velocity and all the peripherals in 2020 and the fact that his BABIP was about 120 points lower than it had been during his MVP season, I think that was just bad luck and ’21 when the back flared up again, THAT was the real turning point.

          But, again, at least Yelich is getting on base. That’s….something. Not 22M a year for 8 years something(and then 2.4M a year for another 10 years-something, but…it IS something).

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    • sandytolan

      3 years ago

      It’s really way too early to say that the Hader trade was bad. They already said that they took Lamet because of Padre salary issues. I don’t agree with cutting him either, but the measure of this trade will be whether Gasser and E. Ruiz amount to much. Gasser’s last Padre ranking, before they decimated their system at the deadline, was top ten in one of the best systems in baseball. And so far, so good at Brewers AA Biloxi. He could arrive by late next year, allowing them to trade Lauer. As for Ruiz, he has been absolutely raking at AA/AAA, with a .998 OPS and 64 stolen bases in 2022. I expect him in Milwaukee by September 1, as a pinch runner at the least, but also getting some playing time. (Though Frelick is also a possibility, and bats lefty which better complements Tyrone Taylor.) Just way too early to write off this trade. And I do think even with Trevor Rogers’s continuing struggle, the bullpen is stronger than it was before they traded Hader.

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    • HiAndTight

      3 years ago

      The Brewers were 3rd in the NL in offense behind the Dodgers and the Braves at the deadline, 6th in MLB. Yeah, they could have used bats and they went after Drury, Joc Peterson, Josh Bell(who the Pads insisted be part of the trade in order to send the largest prospect haul in MLB history back to Washington) as well as a few others that have been mentioned by this very site. I would have been more than a big disappointed giving up a 50FV prospect for Joey Gallo and his .159/.282 line at the time of the trade(that is basically Tyler Black or above…so one of our top 6-8 prospects).

      Also…you don’t seem to count literally the BEST player the Brewers got back for Hader, Gasser. He’ll be stepping into the rotation and…IMO, a potential ace(along with Ashby and Misiorowski) as potential aces.

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  4. CravenMoorehead

    3 years ago

    “In fact, isn’t “Milwaukee” an Indian name?”

    >Yes, Pete, it is. Actually, it’s pronounced “mill-e-wah-que” which is Algonquin for “the good land”.

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    • junior felix

      3 years ago

      Party on.

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    • You Can Put It In The Books

      3 years ago

      Stairway, denied!

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    • put it in the books

      3 years ago

      Does this guy know how to party or what?

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    • theprofessor1981

      3 years ago

      We’re not worthy! We’re not worthy!

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  5. DarkSide830

    3 years ago

    Not sure what Stearns has done that makes NYM fans salivate over him so much. MIL is a fine team, but that’s all. Does anyone see them as a WS contender? Have they really gotten better over the past few years? In particular, are they better now then they were a year ago, a few months ago, or even a few weeks ago?

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    • You Can Put It In The Books

      3 years ago

      It’s not just Mets fans. You’re clearly out of the loop.

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      • DarkSide830

        3 years ago

        If you’re not aware of why I’m specifically mentioning the Mets than I don’t know what rock you’ve been living under. It’s not a knock on them, it’s just odd to me.

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        • flamingbagofpoop

          3 years ago

          They’ve been better than the phillies for $70m+/yr less. It’s not a perfect way to think about it, but imagine if the phillies had an extra 70m to fill in their holes, that’s why Stearns is pretty good.

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        • Samuel

          3 years ago

          DarkSide830;

          It’s not Mets fans that want David Stearns; it’s the Mets owner.

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        • Spike Hyzer

          3 years ago

          You mean imagine if the Brewers had 70 million more to spend. I can think of 3 or 4 positions right now that would be vastly improved on offense.

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    • MannyPineappleExpress9

      3 years ago

      They’re not. And I know people hate hearing this, but the Yelich contract appears to have been the beginning of the end. He was really good building a competitive team, but I’m afraid they’ve peaked, and whether he stays or not I’m now sensing a long and painful sell-off/rebuild.

      Can’t let Counsell escape blame either. I still cannot wrap my head around his (the franchise’s) offensive philosophy. Dude barely has more career HR than me, yet he thinks every player, regardless off skill set or ability, should swing for the fences every at bat, no matter the situation.
      The only hope for this year’s team is if by some miracle multiple (at least 3) players gets hot with the bat for the rest of the season. Up til now, it seems nobody stays hot for more than a week, and rarely are even 2 guys hot for more than a game or two.

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      • iverbure

        3 years ago

        Mid market teams have no business ever signing a guy to a muti year 20mil+ contract. It’s too big of a risk even if the guy is cal Ripken and never misses a game. Unless there’s some kind of injury protection for the team ei a team option which never happens so therefore they shouldn’t sign the contract to begin with.

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      • iverbure

        3 years ago

        That’s not a counsell philosophy that’s baseball’s philosophy’s the entire sport.

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        • MannyPineappleExpress9

          3 years ago

          I realize it’s a mlb thing in general, but there are teams/players that occasionally do something besides swing so hard they fall down. And for a guy like Counsell to completely buy into it makes no sense.
          I lost count how many times they’ve loaded the bases with no outs and couldn’t even push 1 run across.

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        • BarrelMan

          3 years ago

          And yet they return to that HR-happy approach every year as if it’s a tried-and-true organizational cornerstone.

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      • Everaj36

        3 years ago

        I would say that Counsell’s philosophy on LHH vs RHH is easier to find issue with. Keston Hiura is the prime example of this. He typically plays him against LHP because he’s a RHH, but doesn’t seem to understand that he has reverse splits. This year Hiura has a 1.067 OPS against RHP and career .862 OPS against RHP, but yet Counsell is pulling him from games when a RHP comes in.

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        • MannyPineappleExpress9

          3 years ago

          Don’t disagree with that at all. At times I think no other manager could get as much out of the talent (or lack thereof in some cases) as he has since taking over. Other times I scratch my head and think they’d be better with no manager at all.

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  6. Yep it is

    3 years ago

    Drury, Bell, Gallo, Pederson really like that would improve any team enough in the NL to break thru??

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    • stymeedone

      3 years ago

      If your team is already in the hunt, they’ve already broken thru. The trade deadline is for strengthening weak areas. The off season is for roster building.

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    • Sid Bream Speed Demon

      3 years ago

      Braves did it with Pederson, Soler, Duvall, and Rosario. ‍♂️

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    • brewsingblue82

      3 years ago

      Drury and/or bell would’ve absolutely helped. Plug either one of them into the 3 or 4 hole and you have a more consistent bat that’s driving in runs/getting on base. Get them both to go along with our pitching? It’d of absolutely made a difference.

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  7. justkidding

    3 years ago

    whose puppet is Heyman?

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    • You Can Put It In The Books

      3 years ago

      Mike Francessa

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  8. JScottG

    3 years ago

    If the Hader trade was all about cutting salary, why didn’t Stearns wait until offseason? So as not to mess with his 1st place standing and chemistry.
    Why on earth did he feel it necessary to surprise everyone, especially his own team now?
    The answer is he didn’t have to. Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot.
    This will be remembered as the Brew Crew white flag trade and gets the 97′ White Sox off the hook. That trade has been eviscerated and the Sox were 3 1/2 games behind, not in 1st as the Brewers were.

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    • Led Hoyer

      3 years ago

      That Hader trade was perplexing. You don’t make your team worse sitting in 1st place.

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    • Big whiffa

      3 years ago

      I think they got burnt. More of like salary transfer and not a salary dump. Then their weak farm got beat out on some other trades.

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  9. dray16

    3 years ago

    in other words, you won’t have to worry about Stearns opting out.

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  10. stubby66

    3 years ago

    If I was Stearn I would head to Detroit for a job. They have a lot of very good young pieces in offense and pitchers then they aren’t afraid to spend money. You give them 2 years with that pitching and some of those position players. Spend some money here and there. They would be really good.In 2 years those guys would have had their time to adjust to the majors. Especially if you do your do dilligents on coaching staff

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    • GarryHarris

      3 years ago

      Although I would like Sternes in Detroit, the owner interferes with the team. The owners are spending on free agents to attract a buyer.

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  11. User 3595123227

    3 years ago

    Why is this Stearns contract such a secret? All these guys have contracts and do what they want when the contract is complete. If it’s to keep the Mets guessing that’s ridiculous. Lol Mets.

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  12. Chris Koch

    3 years ago

    Stearns and Co. really effed up that Hader trade. As Brewer fans, Hader has been subject of trade speculation and it always came back, the offers never met what they valued Hader at. Flash forward to trading him… Happened with over 1day remaining on deadline. You gotta believe that a team would have offered better than what they got after the Soto trade happened? Waited and then sold too early settling for scraps and picking up to tab for Padre garbage that gave them the ability to trade for Soto and Bell.

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  13. Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

    3 years ago

    Offense has been dreary for the last few weeks. Center field has been a big hole since Opening Day. Taylor nor Davis is the answer.

    Why not bring up Esteury Ruiz, let him play and find out what he can do. MiLB numbers were off-the-charts eye popping. Just might be the elixir for what ails the offense.

    Certainly more exciting than any of the alternatives. Give it a shot. As they say in the casino biz, “No balls, no blue chips!”.

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    • GarryHarris

      3 years ago

      The Brewers could give Brice Turang a shot is CF. He’s primarily a SS but can also man CF.

      The Brewers need to plug that CF hole in the lineup.

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      • MannyPineappleExpress9

        3 years ago

        They’ll wait til the off-season and sign a washed up, former Cardinal.

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    • Spike Hyzer

      3 years ago

      Ruiz for Davis for sure.
      Taylor has some value and I keep hoping he can get a bit better. He’s better than Ben Gamel.

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      • Backup Catcher to the Backup Catcher

        3 years ago

        Already have too many low BA and low OBP like Taylor. If the Braves can bring up two twenty-one year olds (Harris and Grissom) and play them every day in a playoff race, then the Brewers can give Ruiz a shot.

        Right now all we have to show for the Hader trade at the MLB level is a LH set-up guy (Rogers)., and he was pretty much stinking out the joint when he got traded.

        Team is bummed Hader is gone. Okay, I get that. However, time for them to put their big boy pants on and start winning some games.

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  14. JimmyForum

    3 years ago

    Stearns rhymes with burns, turns, churns, yearns, ferns, and probably other words too, but Jimmy Forum is an honest commenter who doesn’t use google to cheat on his posts.

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