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NL East Notes: Abrams, Harper, Knebel, Guillorme

By Darragh McDonald | August 14, 2022 at 4:55pm CDT

Nationals’ infielder Luis Garcia has been dealing with a sore groin and may be headed to the injured list. Manager Dave Martinez relayed this info to Mark Zuckerman of MASNsports.com, who added C.J. Abrams was pulled from the Rochester Red Wings lineup today. Dan J. Glickman of Pickin’ Splinters then relayed word from Red Wings manager Matt LeCroy that the removal of Abrams was on order of the big league club, with ESPN’s Jeff Passan later confirming that Abrams will indeed be called up.

Abrams, of course, was one of the pieces coming to Washington in the Juan Soto trade, with many considering him the centerpiece of Washington’s return in the deal. Abrams got some MLB time with the Padres this year, though the Nats initially optioned him to the minors after the trade. With Garcia’s injury, it seems like he is set to make his debut as a National, about two weeks after the trade.

Even before this injury popped up, recent reporting had suggested Abrams would take over at shortstop, with Garcia moving over to second base due to his poor defensive showing at short. Abrams should take over regular shortstop duty for now, with Garcia eventually slotting in next to him at the keystone whenever his groin heals. Currently considered the #11 prospect across the league by Baseball America, Abrams hasn’t hit much at the major league level yet, but he’s hit .310/.360/.480 in Triple-A this season. He’ll celebrate his 22nd birthday in October.

In other NL East news…

  • Phillies’ slugger Bryce Harper will take batting practice tomorrow for the first time since fracturing his thumb in June, with Matt Gelb of The Athletic relaying word from skipper Rob Thomson. Harper was dealing with torn UCL before that thumb issue, which had limited him to DH duties only. Though it was hoped the downtime from the thumb issue might lead to improvement in the elbow, that doesn’t seem to be the case, with the club just focusing on getting Harper’s bat back into the lineup for now. On that front, getting Harper back into BP is a notable step. Despite the torn UCL, Harper has hit .318/.385/.599 on the year for a wRC+ of 166. Getting him back to the Phils would obviously provide a huge boost down the stretch, as the club looks to battle its way through a tough postseason race with less than two months now remaining on the schedule.
  • While the progress of Harper is good news, the Phillies also got some bad news today. Reliever Corey Knebel left today’s game with a lat strain, the team announced to reporters, including Gelb. The severity isn’t yet known, with Knebel now slated for an MRI that will likely provide more information. The hurler has a 3.45 ERA on the season, though his 20.9% strikeout rate and 13.6% walk rates both represent career worsts. Things looked much rosier earlier this month, as Knebel had a 2.59 ERA until a five-run outing on August 2. Taking that one outing away would certainly make his numbers look better, though the lack of punchouts and increased free passes are still concerning.
  • The Mets announced to reporters, including Tim Britton of The Athletic, that infielder Luis Guillorme left today’s game with left groin tightness. He will undergo imaging tomorrow. Though it’s unclear how serious the issue is, the timing is unfortunate as the Mets’ infield has been taking a beating of late. Both Eduardo Escobar and Jeff McNeil had to leave Friday’s game due to injuries, which forced the club to turn to outfield Mark Canha as an emergency third baseman. Escobar relieved Guillorme today and McNeil started the game, so it doesn’t appear terribly dire. However, the club may have to consider adding another infielder to the roster in order to build in some rest for such a banged-up group.
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  1. bluetooth2

    3 years ago

    Bring up Vientos

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    • User 401527550

      3 years ago

      Let’s give him the next month and a half to see if he will boost the post season lineup.

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      • nbresnak

        3 years ago

        Though I’d like to see Baty, he needs his Triple A reps so Vientos would be the proper call-up if Guillorme needs an IL stint.

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        • gmetwagner

          3 years ago

          Vientos is worse at 3b than JDD…. By quite a bit. He’s a DH.

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        • mookiesboy

          3 years ago

          if it’s to replace Luis in a platoon role at 3b then it’s Baty

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        • TheREALMetsFan22

          3 years ago

          He’s been ready.

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  2. Captain Dunsel

    3 years ago

    Coonrod seems almost ready to take Knebel’s place.

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  3. TradeAcuna

    3 years ago

    Guess Keith was right again, the Phils just don’t show up when playing the overachievers.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      Phils played 2 great games and today failed to hit with RISP multiple times. Harper and Scwarber’s absence was really felt. Not a bad series, but at the end of the day, the Mets are just significantly better than the Phils.

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    • DarkSide830

      3 years ago

      Didn’t “show up” he says after they won on Friday and lost a close one yesterday. NYM’s better, just that darn simple.

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      • pinstripes17

        3 years ago

        They scored two runs all series, the teams are worlds apart.

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        • rct

          3 years ago

          I’m a Mets fan, but I would not call them ‘worlds apart’. A few things:

          -they faced Scherzer and deGrom, no one scores on them
          -games were in NY
          -they’re missing Harper and only got one pinch hit AB from an injured Schwarber

          Four games in Philly coming up. Should be an awesome series.

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    • rct

      3 years ago

      Mets immediately made an error in the top of the 5th after the Phillies misplayed the ball in the bottom of the 4th, so please stop with the Keith comments. No one cares about them. And stop calling the Mets ‘overachievers’ while citing zero evidence and calling out zero players. This is your 8 millionth post doing it.

      Phillies played great in two out of three games in NY. They’re a great team who is about to get even better when Bryce is back. This is a great race with three of the hottest teams in baseball*. Stop with your childishness on every post relating to any of the teams.

      *not counting head-to-head matchups, each team’s record since July 28th:

      -Mets – 8-1
      -Braves – 8-0
      -Phillies – 10-1

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      • DarkSide830

        3 years ago

        Truth be told, I don’t think Keith is totally wrong about them playing baseball in an odd manner, but I draw the line at his suggestion that it’s unwatchable. NYM has won most of the H2H games, which doesn’t surprise me because they are simply better, but most of the games they’ve played against each other have felt like good ones to me.

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        • rct

          3 years ago

          Agreed. Next eight Mets games are four in Atlanta and four in Philly. Can’t wait.

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        • TheREALMetsFan22

          3 years ago

          We will dominate like we have all year in my opinion.

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        • You Can Put It In The Books

          3 years ago

          And two against the Yankees, I believe.

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    • TheREALMetsFan22

      3 years ago

      Phillies are better than Braves. After beating up on both teams. you guys. it was just easier to beat up on

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    • MetsManMetsFan86

      3 years ago

      Is that you resign Swanson? Had to change names after last weekend?

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    • MetsManMetsFan86

      3 years ago

      Where’d resign Swanson go?

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    • MetsManMetsFan86

      3 years ago

      Where’d Resign Swanson go? Or did the beating the Braves took last weekend force you to change names? Crying that other teams can’t beat the Mets when your own team can’t.

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    • alonsoalfonzo

      3 years ago

      Where’d Resign Swanson go? Or did the beating the Braves took last weekend force you to change names? Crying that other teams can’t beat the Mets when your own team can’t.

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    • alonsoalfonzo

      3 years ago

      Crying cause another team can’t beat the Mets, when your own team can’t.

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  4. Dorothy_Mantooth

    3 years ago

    Washington should have all of their newly acquired prospects on their major league roster already (those who are ready of course). Abrams can’t prove much more in AAA; he needs time in the majors to develop. It’s not like he’s going to cost them important games at this point. Get these kids the experience they need so they can feel confident coming into next season as major league starters. If Abrams had managed just 5 more hits for SD, his major league average would have been .272 so he’s ready for the show.

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    • Brixton

      3 years ago

      3 of the 5 prospects they got are in the low-to-mid minors. Abrams and Gore should be in the MLB at this point. Voit shoulda been on a different contender by the deadline

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      • Herc33

        3 years ago

        They can probably flip Voit this offseason, or even the deadline next year. He seems to be hitting well for them, building up some value.

        On Abrams, he really should have played more in the minors for SD, but with the whole Tatis situation he was up earlier than he should have been. Everyday reps are the biggest thing for him with how few ABs he’s had in his career to date

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  5. Bart Harley Jarvis

    3 years ago

    With regard to Guillorme, he doesn’t appear to have any muscles to pull. Call you pull or tweak fat?

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      He has beard muscle. Glorious beard muscle.

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      • raisinsss

        3 years ago

        Decades from now the true baseball historians will measure greatness not in terms of woba or wrc, but by “longest spring training at bat” and “most dastardly bat catch.”

        And so the legend will live on.

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    • mrmet17

      3 years ago

      You know it’s Guillorme and not Vogelbach right?

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      • Bart Harley Jarvis

        3 years ago

        Aren’t they twins, separated at birth?

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    • Chris G.

      3 years ago

      That’s an odd take on one of the best defensive players in the league.

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      • You Can Put It In The Books

        3 years ago

        “Magic Hands”

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    • Cosmo2

      3 years ago

      Guillorme is pure muscle. He’s just thick.

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      • Bart Harley Jarvis

        3 years ago

        So, you’re saying he’s slow on the uptake?

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  6. JimmyForum

    3 years ago

    Got a training session set up for 3:30 AM tomorrow so I’m just going to pull an all nighter so I don’t miss it. I’ll start stretching around 3 and leave for the gym around 3:20. There will probably be that guy who wears trash bags as a shirt riding the bike and that other guy in gray sweats who talks to himself but shouldn’t be too crowded so I can get my gains on

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  7. ExileInLA 2

    3 years ago

    Mets need someone who can back up Lindor at short. That’s the biggest reason not to call Vientos.

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    • rct

      3 years ago

      Right, but if they’re not calling Vientos up now, then when will they? The same group of guys will likely be around next year (Alonso, McNeil, Lindor, Guillorme, Escobar, Vogelbach/Ruf are all under contract for next year), with Baty probably coming up early in the season. Unless they’re trading someone away in the offseason, when does Vientos even get a chance?

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      • TheREALMetsFan22

        3 years ago

        Escobar gone and Vientos could take Ruf/Escobar role.

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        • TheREALMetsFan22

          3 years ago

          Mostly ruf bc he can’t field.

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        • rct

          3 years ago

          Escobar gone where? He’s getting paid $9.5 million next year. Unless they manage a trade or just eat it, he’ll be there.

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        • TheREALMetsFan22

          3 years ago

          Yes I want Cohen to eat it.

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        • Cosmo2

          3 years ago

          Let Escobar warm the bench.

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    • jim stem

      3 years ago

      Seems Mauricio could get a call up in case of emergency need? But some media pundits are suggesting Katoh.

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      • phenomenalajs

        3 years ago

        Katoh is part of a small taxi squad traveling with the team, but he would have to be moved to the 40-man before being selected to the active roster.

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    • jim stem

      3 years ago

      McNeil had a cut on his thumb, nothing earth shattering.

      Escobar is limited to hitting lefthanded, his weaker side. It’s odd that we are now wondering how to replace, wait for it, JD Davis!

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      • gmetwagner

        3 years ago

        Are you sure you’re a philly fan? You’re too objective to be a philly fan. I was watching HK’s call of Schmidty’s 500th and couldn’t help but opine how terrible your guys are. To go from the greatest (sorry Vin) baseball announcer to this slop is very sad.

        It’s actually funny because Keith is almost always objective but he has moments like these where he just hammers certain teams. Though he has said things like this about the Mets, too believe it or not. You also have to consider that when Keith said what he said about the Phillies, he had only watched them through May this year. From that perspective, the Phils were playing very bad baseball, at least against us. I watched every game against the Phils this year. Their brand of baseball from April to when Girardi got fired was the worst fielding I have seen from philly… ever. The bullpen was horrible too.

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  8. baseballhistory

    3 years ago

    It’s incredible, the level of ignorance concerning Harper’s “slight ucl tear”. Every article I’ve read, the “sportswriter”, marvels at how well Harper has hit ( and with usual power), after injuring the ligament in mid-April. If any common sense was utilized, they would deduce what is painfully obvious. The slight tear, only affects throwing the ball. Hitting, or running the bases, isn’t impacted in any way.

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    • Never Remember

      3 years ago

      Really nice to have an orthopedic surgeon on here. Please provide the training you have undergone and your own personal experience trying to hit with this injury so we all benefit from your obvious knowledge.

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    • iverbure

      3 years ago

      He should have had the elbow surgery once he broke his thumb, these teams treating this year like it’s the last mlb season when they aren’t actual contenders. It seems quite obvious he needs the surgery so rather do it now after he’s already been out for 2 months.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        3 years ago

        @iverbure Harper wanted to avoid surgery entirely. His injury doesn’t necessarily require surgery. He was and is hoping rest and the injections does the trick. It doesn’t impact his bat at all. The Phillies can also win 90+ games. That’s contender worthy IMO. Certainly not amongst th elite like the Dodgers, Mets, Yankees and Astros, but up there with the Tier 2 teams. Quite frankly, in recent years, the Tier 2 teams often make it deep in the playoffs. Not saying the Phillies will, but the idea that they should just tank the season and get a surgery they may not even need or want seems a bit crazy to me. It’s up to Harper. He wants to play.

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    • DarkSide830

      3 years ago

      I don’t see why all the writers are obsessing over this fact. We get it – he can’t play OF. Nothing having changed there makes sense because he never got surgery.

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    • 30 Parks

      3 years ago

      We have differing understandings of “ignorance,” “marvels,” “common sense,” “utilized,” “deduced,” “obvious,” and “impacted.” Otherwise, I completely agree.

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  9. mlb1225

    3 years ago

    That’s rough for the Mets. Losing Escobar, McNeil, and Guillmore all in less than a week? Gotta get a semi-decent patch-job done quickly. A 5.5 game lead on the Braves is nothing at this point in the season.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      They didn’t really lose McNeil. He came right back for the next two games. Escobar played today. They’ll be fine. Plus they’ve owned the Braves.

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    • Bill M

      3 years ago

      McNeil & Escobar were hardly lost. McNeil looks to be at 100%. Escobar maybe 50% because he couldn’t switch hit today. Jury is still out on Guillorme. He might be heading for the IL

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    • FredMcGriff for the HOF

      3 years ago

      Braves have a new weapon called Vaughn Grissom. Bring on the Mets.

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      • TheREALMetsFan22

        3 years ago

        Lol

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      • You Can Put It In The Books

        3 years ago

        You’ll need more than one guy with 15 career at bats to fill in as long as fragile Ronald is taking every 4th game off to rest his wittle wegs.

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      • raisinsss

        3 years ago

        Vaughn Grissom is one of the names of the cpu-generated draft picks in All Star Baseball 2001 when you move to the next season in franchise mode.

        Like Jose Guerrero, Bagwell Raines, and Boone Puckett. Mo Marquis has a ring to it.

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  10. Captain Judge99

    3 years ago

    The Nationals bring up the best “singles hitter prospect” of all time in CJ Abrams. He’s not better then Volpe or Peraza. Lots of luck Nats!

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    • rct

      3 years ago

      ‘Singles hitter prospect’? He’s 21 and has slugged .511 in the minors. Am I missing a joke here?

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      • Captain Judge99

        3 years ago

        Yes that’s nice, .511 all singles

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        • DarkSide830

          3 years ago

          So hid AVG is .511? That would arguably be even more impressive.

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  11. TheREALMetsFan22

    3 years ago

    Call up Baty or Vientos already.

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  12. ♪

    3 years ago

    I guess, not many people were watching when Keith Hernandez said he doesn’t like the city of Philadelphia during a weekday afternoon telecast at Miami 2-3 years ago. So his latest isn’t surprising.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      Not liking a city is fine. It’s a matter of taste. Saying a team has been unwatchable over the years when you covered the 2007-2013 Mets is pure nonsense.

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      • You Can Put It In The Books

        3 years ago

        Again with this, Von? Getting a little old.

        If I wanted to be a whiner like you, I’d refer you to the Phillies broadcast today when they cried about the Mets lack of a hard hit rate. It’s, all over social media. Those broadcasters should get the number for the WAAAAAMBULANCE from the Braves.

        Oh, and I hope you enjoyed your series L today. See you in Philly.

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        • TheREALMetsFan22

          3 years ago

          He is right. Wilpons Mets were horrible. Keith was just trying to put a spotlight on himself.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          The Phillies announcers have been terrible for quite awhile, but they’ve praised the Mets all season. The Mets hit a ton of weak bloops today and the announcers commented on that. Vogelbach also crushed one and the announcers mentioned that as well. The better team won. No surprise here. If you can’t see the difference between discussing hard hit rates and saying you refuse to cover a team because you consider them unwatchable, then I can’t really help you. Also important to remember Keith said it during a Reds game. Big difference. You can call it whining all you want. I never brought it up. Just commenting on other comments.

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        • Ben K

          3 years ago

          The Mets are hitting and playing small ball like the 2015 Royals did when they sliced and diced the Mets to take 4 out of 5 on the way to a quick World Series W. With their rotation and offensive approach the Mets are as good a bet as any to go all the way this year.

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        • Kruk's Beer League

          3 years ago

          You are the definition of a sore winner. You can put that in the books.

          Hernandez is and will always be a tool. His opinion holds as much weight as others of his ilk like Clemens, Papelbon and Canseco. In other words, not much.

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        • gmetwagner

          3 years ago

          Are you sure you’re a philly fan? You’re too objective to be a philly fan. I was watching HK’s call of Schmidty’s 500th and couldn’t help but opine how terrible your guys are. To go from the greatest (sorry Vin) baseball announcer to this slop is very sad.

          It’s actually funny because Keith is almost always objective but he has moments like these where he just hammers certain teams. Though he has said things like this about the Mets, too believe it or not. You also have to consider that when Keith said what he said about the Phillies, he had only watched them through May this year. From that perspective, the Phils were playing very bad baseball, at least against us. I watched every game against the Phils this year. Their brand of baseball from April to when Girardi got fired was the worst fielding I have seen from philly… ever. The bullpen was horrible too.

          And in the few times I’ve listened to your announcers, they were biased to the point that it was overwhelmingly obvious and took away from the experience. I get most home announcers have a home bias. But some are worse than others. Yours are worse than the Marlins… which is saying something.

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        • gmetwagner

          3 years ago

          Been saying that all year.

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        • gmetwagner

          3 years ago

          Our current roster would cost $425,000,000. Let’s not count our chickens before they hatch. Very few teams can sustain a bullpen every year.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          3 years ago

          Marlins announcers are actually among some of the best IMO. They don’t get a lot of national play because they’re the Marlins.

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      • rct

        3 years ago

        The Mets being unwatchable doesn’t preclude the Girardi Phillies from being unwatchable. Especially when Keith has the option to skip Phillies games and doesn’t really have that option for Mets games.

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    • Bart Harley Jarvis

      3 years ago

      The photos of Hernandez and his moobs say all that needs to be said. Is it possible the moobs are a side effect of the cocaine abuse during his playing days?

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      • raisinsss

        3 years ago

        I’d say there’s a fine line between use and abuse and he then he snorted that line too because why let it go to waste?

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        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          3 years ago

          It appears the difference between use and abuse is the ‘ab’.

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  13. You Can Put It In The Books

    3 years ago

    Excuses, excuses. All I hear are excuses for the Phillies losing this series. That’s what happens when you face off against the top teams in the league and get dominated by an entire pitching staff.

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    • TheREALMetsFan22

      3 years ago

      To be fair. We are a absolutely juggernaut this year. And will be for the next 10+ years. Braves and Phillies fans will suffer because their teams will be good. But not good enough. Phillies are still a very good team.

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      • meckert

        3 years ago

        Thank you Nostradamus.

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        • Smacky

          3 years ago

          He goes by Nostradumbass actually.

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    • VonPurpleHayes

      3 years ago

      Every Phillies fan in here has said “The Mets are much better than the Phillies.”

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    • DarkSide830

      3 years ago

      Dude, shut it. You won the series. Enjoy.

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      • You Can Put It In The Books

        3 years ago

        No.

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  14. 619bird

    3 years ago

    I just hope Abrams won’t take after Tatis Jr.

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  15. A's Fan

    3 years ago

    Maybe the Mets will sign Jed Lowrie.

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    • Say Hey Now Kid

      3 years ago

      Dude. Weak

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  16. Fred McGriff HR

    3 years ago

    Mets Roster and Manager, nothing but respect for them. I hope Guillorme recovers quickly.

    Mets fans who like to talk **** despite having won nothing since 1986, nothing but disdain. Mets fans like to see Braves players hurt & injured and that goes directly to the low class human beings and the type of pathetic disrespectful fanbase that they have. You only have to look up the page at them making fun of Acuna who is one year removed from a serious ACL injury, and also making fun of Fried’s concussion on another page. That tells you everything you need to know about the Mets little trolls.

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    • You Can Put It In The Books

      3 years ago

      Take it down a notch, champ. The Braves have had enough injuries this year. We wouldn’t want you to have an aneurysm on top of it.

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    • DarkSide830

      3 years ago

      So now we have three McGriffs on the site? HoF, HR, and PED dudes. Any I’m missing?

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      • FredMcGriff for the HOF

        3 years ago

        @darkside. I have been here for years.

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        • Fred McGriff HR

          3 years ago

          The above commenter making assertions about PED’s is a disgusting little troll with multiple user names with not one shred of proof of his absurd and false deluded accusations.

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        • DarkSide830

          3 years ago

          [Spoderman pointing meme]

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      • Rsox

        3 years ago

        Which is sad because i think “The Crime Dog” was probably one of the few consistent offense players that *didn’t* juice in his playing days.

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    • Cosmo2

      3 years ago

      Won nothing since 1986? They were in the WS in 2015. So now only one team a year can be said to have won anything?

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      • Smacky

        3 years ago

        In 2015 Michael Harris II and Vaughn Grissom were freshman in high school.

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      • Manfred Rob's Earth Band

        3 years ago

        If you ain’t first you last!

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  17. coreif

    3 years ago

    Wrong Luis Garcia linked.

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  18. GarryHarris

    3 years ago

    3B Brent Baty was recently moved up to AAA. The Mets will look at him before bringing him up. That would be very fortunate if a team is able to bring up it’s best prospect to fill it’s only weakness.

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  19. TheOpener

    3 years ago

    Nationals won the trade against the Padres big time.

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  20. SamtheMan!

    3 years ago

    The Nats really did a great job retooling a terrible farm system in one deadline. They could be an actual factor again in 2-3 years.

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