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Rangers, Braves Swap Jake Odorizzi, Kolby Allard

By Darragh McDonald | November 9, 2022 at 11:58pm CDT

The Rangers kicked off their search for rotation help Thursday evening, announcing the acquisition of right-hander Jake Odorizzi from the Braves. Atlanta receives lefty Kolby Allard in a one-for-one swap that also sees the Braves pay down a notable portion of Odorizzi’s salary. Atlanta will reportedly cover $10MM of his $12.5MM figure, which was locked in when the veteran starter exercised a player option for next year.

Going into 2021, Odorizzi signed a two-year, $23.5MM guarantee with the Astros with a convoluted structure. He received a $6MM signing bonus and $6MM salary in 2021, followed by a $5MM salary in 2022. That was to be followed by a $6.5MM player option with a $3.25MM buyout. However, there were also performance escalators that could increase the value of both the option and the buyout. Over the initial two years of the deal, if Odorizzi got into 20, 25 and 30 games, he would add $2MM to the salary and $1MM to the buyout at each of those milestones. He easily hit all three, getting into 46 games, maxing out the option value at $12.5MM.

Odorizzi posted a 4.21 ERA with Houston in 2021 and then had a 3.75 mark at the deadline when he was traded to Atlanta for Will Smith. Unfortunately, the uniform switch didn’t help him, as he posted a 5.24 mark after the deal. He also had a 6.59 ERA in the shortened 2020 season, meaning he hasn’t seen strong results over the past three years. Though he had a 27.1% strikeout rate in 2019, he’s been hovering around 20% since then, a few ticks below league average.

Atlanta was clearly not terribly excited about the idea of paying him $12.5MM, based both on their tight payroll situation and Odorizzi’s results. He likely isn’t one of their five best starters anyway, as they have Max Fried, Kyle Wright, Charlie Morton, and Spencer Strider for the first four spots, with Bryce Elder, Ian Anderson, Kyle Muller and Jared Shuster candidates for the fifth. They’ll pick up only $2.5MM in salary relief, but the deal clears a path for some of their younger arms to compete for a back-of-the-rotation job.

The Rangers are in need of rotation upgrades after getting poor results in that department in 2022. Texas starters posted a collective 4.63 ERA this year, placing them 25th in the majors. They got some decent work from Jon Gray and a career year from veteran Martín Pérez, though Pérez has now reached free agency and deprived the already-weak rotation of its strongest performer. There’s reportedly mutual interest in a reunion, though nothing has been finalized yet and the club is now likely to extend him a $19.65MM qualifying offer.

With Pérez still in the wind, that leaves Texas with Gray and a host of question marks behind him. Dane Dunning was decent enough, posting a 4.46 ERA this year over 29 starts. However, his season was finished by hip surgery and it’s unclear what condition he’ll be in next year. Glenn Otto made 27 starts and posted an ERA of 4.64. The club also gave a handful of starts to Taylor Hearn, Cole Ragans and Spencer Howard, though they all posted an ERA of 4.95 or higher. Given all that uncertainty, it would be logical for them to consider any and all avenues to upgrade the staff, with general manager Chris Young saying basically that at the GM Meetings in Las Vegas this week, per Evan Grant of The Dallas Morning News. That will apparently include giving Odorizzi a shot to produce some better results.

In addition to clearing a bit of salary off the books, Atlanta will receive another arm in Allard. The 25-year-old was actually drafted by Atlanta in the first round back in 2015 but went to the Rangers in 2019 in exchange for Chris Martin. He’s pitched in each of the past five MLB seasons but has a career 6.07 ERA. He has decent control with a 7.8% walk rate in his career, though his 18.6% strikeout rate and 37.8% ground ball rate are both subpar. He had been part of the Ranger rotation from 2019-21 but got bumped to bullpen work in 2022. The move didn’t help him, as he put up a 7.29 ERA over 21 innings out of the ’pen.

In the end, it seems both teams are giving up on pitchers that weren’t in their plans going forward. Texas is desperate for rotation stability and will see if Odorizzi can provide it, with Atlanta helping them pay the bill. It’s likely to be one of several moves to address the starting staff as they look to emerge from their years-long rebuild. For Atlanta, they are sending away some cash but will at least save a couple of bucks as they look to revamp and try to win a sixth straight NL East title.

Mark Feinsand of MLB.com was first to report the Braves were paying $10MM of Odorizzi’s salary.

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  1. John Smoke

    3 years ago

    Isn’t that the guy the Braves traded for Chris Martin with?

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    • angryyankeesfan1

      3 years ago

      Yes. It happened at the 2019 trade deadline. Just looked it up now, but yeah. Wild.

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    • chipper1965

      3 years ago

      No it was Will Smith

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      • getrealgone2

        3 years ago

        He was asking about Allard. Jake was traded for Smith

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  2. CaptainJudge99

    3 years ago

    Sounds like a lot of dumpster divin’ for both teams involved?

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    • DTD/ATL1313

      3 years ago

      Braves shed a contract they didn’t want or need for some depth. It’s. It dumpster diving, it’s clutter clearing

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      • DTD/ATL1313

        3 years ago

        * It’s not*

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      • seamaholic 2

        3 years ago

        Well they’re paying most of it though.

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      • seamaholic 2

        3 years ago

        Serviceable major league starting pitcher for $2.5m? Heck yeah. Nice move for the Rangers. Even if the dude just stays healthy and soaks up 120 innings it’s worth $2.5.

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      • RunDMC

        3 years ago

        If you read between the lines, and take CEO McGuirk’s comments of possibly being a top-5 payroll, then this clears 2.5M from competitive balance tax, which starts at $230M, I believe. Currently, it’s around $156M. This may give some indication on spending plans, though that’s pure speculation.

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    • Appalachian_Outlaw

      3 years ago

      Possibly, or not. Allard has two really good pitches in his cutter and curve. I don’t know if Texas changed it, or he did on his own, but you can see he has a different release point on his pitches now. His fastball isn’t great, but I almost wonder if he could be an effective low leverage reliever?

      If not, Atlanta at minimum she’d themselves of Odorrizzi

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      • Appalachian_Outlaw

        3 years ago

        *shed

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    • CursedRangers

      3 years ago

      The Rangers pitching is currently a dumpster fire. Jake is now the Rangers 2nd best starter…

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      3 years ago

      Atlanta passes Odor.

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  3. amk1920

    3 years ago

    Braves get their own 1st round bust back

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    • HankHollywood

      3 years ago

      They drafted/signed him for 3m+ then trade him because he is garbage then proceed to trade for him and pay down 10m on a 12.5M contract of a bonified 4-5 starter AFTER he proves he is garbage? Makes no sense. Either Odorizzi is a dugout cancer or they see something they missed the first time on this guy.

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  4. bravesfan

    3 years ago

    Awesome! Good for Allard, glad to have him back!

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    • getrealgone2

      3 years ago

      Why? He’s never been good.

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      • AgentF

        3 years ago

        Raw stuff and makeup are still positive. Not the blazing fastball that is typical of a reliever, but maybe they have plans for that? Plus they’re shedding payroll. It’s like expecting nothing and getting a flier. If it works, awesome… if not, no biggie. Smart business.

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        • getrealgone2

          3 years ago

          Shedding payroll is great. I was specifically wondering why this guy was excited to have Allard back.

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      • bravesfan

        3 years ago

        I just have a big heart for former top Braves prospects. Nothing more than that. Glad to shed payroll though. And I wasn’t the biggest Odor fan. Lol

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        • getrealgone2

          3 years ago

          Apparently not much salary. Unfortunately.

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    • User 401527550

      3 years ago

      Career 7 era. Probably will be released but the Braves cleared 7 million in payroll.

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      • blackandorange

        3 years ago

        How many said similar things when the Rangers resigned Martin Perez?

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  5. angryyankeesfan1

    3 years ago

    What if Odorizzi turns down the option and the rangers just dealt Allard for some money?

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    • getrealgone2

      3 years ago

      I doubt He turns down the option. Think that’s why the Braves jettisoned him and gave up some dough.

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    • ruff kuntry

      3 years ago

      Then they saved themselves some heartache in the bullpen while getting some money.

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    • ohyeadam

      3 years ago

      Yeah it’s weird. Maybe he’s already accepted but it hasn’t been released yet

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  6. getrealgone2

    3 years ago

    I guess that clears the Braves of having Jake use his option. Allard has never been good. AAA fodder?

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  7. Dalton1017

    3 years ago

    I hate this trade for the Rangers

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    • getrealgone2

      3 years ago

      Unless Jake figures something out this offseason be prepared to cringe any time he’s on the mound.

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    • User 401527550

      3 years ago

      He’s better then what you have at the back end of your rotation. Decent trade for both teams.

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      • getrealgone2

        3 years ago

        Well we see in April if Jake was a better option for the back end of the rotation. Stove has barely been on.

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        • stubby66

          3 years ago

          Jake can eat som innings and at the very least gives Rangers a chance to see how Leiter, Kumar, Kelley are performing at AAA.

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  8. 41em

    3 years ago

    Great move by the Braves to save some money. Waiting to hear how much $

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    • getrealgone2

      3 years ago

      Agreed.

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    • User 401527550

      3 years ago

      Probably saved them enough money to sign a quality starter in free agency. Easy decision for the Braves. They can DFA allard.

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      • getrealgone2

        3 years ago

        Exactly.

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      • Jesse Chavez enthusiast

        3 years ago

        @mets69

        Thanks for being respectful but I don’t know why we traded him since we are shipping 10million off with him

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      • 1984wasntamanual

        3 years ago

        Nope.

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    • RunDMC

      3 years ago

      $10M sent…! The buyout was 6.25M — and they sent 10M. Do they value Allard as more than 3.75M for a guy with a lifetime 55 ERA+??? I don’t get this at all.

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      • Poster formerly known as . . .

        3 years ago

        Allard is still only 25 years old. They must be thinking they can turn him into an effective pitcher, at least possibly.

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      • king_tut

        3 years ago

        Do you inform yourself before posting …you do realize that it was a player option at 6.25M and that the team had no ability to get out of it if he exercised it?!? Thus not your scenario at all.

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        • RunDMC

          3 years ago

          No, I didn’t inform myself of the player option before posting. I’m putting myself in timeout.

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    • Poster formerly known as . . .

      3 years ago

      The Braves are paying $10M of the $12.5M Odorizzi is owed. The Rangers are getting, at worst, an innings eater for only $2.5M.

      This seems less about the Braves saving money than about hoping that Allard turns out to be a positive contributor. If he does, this is a good deal for Atlanta. If he doesn’t, and Odorizzi proves to be a serviceable pitcher this year, it would seem that Texas got the better of the deal.

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      • Yankee Clipper

        3 years ago

        It’s bad when the Braves are willing to eat $10M but the Yankees won’t….

        Punt Aaron Hicks!

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        • keysox

          3 years ago

          Ok Yanks/White Sox trade – Hicks and IKF for Grandal and Kelly

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  9. stroh

    3 years ago

    I’ve never seen a pitcher knocked around like Odorizzi in all my years as an Astros fan. I really feel sorry for the Rangers. Braves dumped him as well.

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    • Poster formerly known as . . .

      3 years ago

      It’s hard to imagine that Odorizzi was all that bad for Houston in 2022, given his 3.75 ERA and 3.61 FIP. 2021 was another story.

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      • stroh

        3 years ago

        I can only tell you that most if not all Astros fans were deliriously happy when they got rid of him. He would wobble every inning, every pitch, rely on atom ball outs, and averaged 5 innings a start. Every pitch was an adventure. Usually would give up 3 runs or so and be in the verge of giving up more when Baker would pull him. He had the shortest leash of any starter and was the 6th starter during the time he was with the Stros. If you don’t believe me talk to some Braves fans on their experience. His stats over performed his actual performance. The worst starting pitcher I have seen on the Stros since Lucas Harrell ( circa 2012).

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    • JoeBrady

      3 years ago

      I’ve never seen a pitcher knocked around like Odorizzi in all my years as an Astros fan.
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      I’d be interested in your analysis for that. His ERA+ for 2021 & 2022 were both better than league average. Almost every stat I see looks like a league-average SP.

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      • 1-LoneStar>2-*

        3 years ago

        A 3.99 career ERA, 4.04 in Houston looks like getting knocked around to a fan base that’s used to watching their trash pitchers cheat their way to WS wins, MLB records and first evers (and second evers).

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    • vtadave

      3 years ago

      You must not watch much baseball. He had a 3.75 ERA in 12 starts for the Astros.

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  10. bravesnation nc

    3 years ago

    Got rid of fricken Jake Odorizzi. Braves didn’t want to pay that option year or by out cleared some cash for the possible CBT hit if they make a big signing. AA strikes again. Throw one of the young guys out there same as a Odorizzi start.

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    • getrealgone2

      3 years ago

      AA is damn good.

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      • jimmertee

        3 years ago

        Take a look at AA’s entire career. It’s been really good. And Shapiro for Toronto Blue Jays couldn’t hire him. AA turned him down. Smart move.

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        • Selah Rick 2

          3 years ago

          He just cost the team $10 mil for a pitcher he doesn’t have anymore. Yup nice move! And paid Hamels and Morton $20 mil each. One never pitched and the other is #5 in the rotation. Sooo..

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        • Braves83

          3 years ago

          He traded Will Smith to keep snit from using Smith in high leverage—AA got rid of Ordor-is-He cause we need the space—fine. Not the best move/not the worst move (yes he did sign Will Smith and last year post season made Smith’s whole contract worth it). Morton with a regular off season could be well worth 20—everyone will see.

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        • JoeBrady

          3 years ago

          He just cost the team $10 mil for a pitcher he doesn’t have anymore. Yup nice move!
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          I was wondering about all the praise as well. AA has done a great job overall, but the Odorizzi acquisition turned out really badly. It cost the Braves almost $13M for 2 wins and a 5.24.

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    • 1984wasntamanual

      3 years ago

      Yeah, he saved 2.5m, what a baller!

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      • HistoryBelongstotheVictorsInArms

        3 years ago

        While I’m not a fan of eating $$$ in deals, isn’t the on paper benefit that he cut $12.5M from the CBT figure? Not sure if coveres cost figures count against the CBT number…

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  11. Smacky

    3 years ago

    Salary dump. I didn’t really follow Allard after the Braves traded him away. I didn’t see him much but when I did he was clearly not good.

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  12. MM.MM

    3 years ago

    saves the Braves $..best case scenario! Good riddance, ODORSTINKY!

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    • 1984wasntamanual

      3 years ago

      You can do better than odorstinky…

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  13. Cora the Destroya

    3 years ago

    I don’t think it’s a terrible attempt for the Rangers… his stats have been all over the place but he was good in Houston before being dealt to the Braves. Then again, I have no idea what he is being paid..

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      3 years ago

      $6.5M player option; $3.25M buyout option

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        3 years ago

        *…or what Darragh said.

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    • stroh

      3 years ago

      He wasn’t good in Houston. I watched every one of his starts, cringed on every pitch. His ERA is deceptive, should be much worse. Dusty usually got him out of there before he gave it up big time. Usually around 5th inning he would be on the rocks and Dusty would bring n a reliever to bail him out. The number of hard hit outs he gave up were amazing. Stros traded him for 25 innings of Will Smith and giving Smith $1M to leave.

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      • Samuel

        3 years ago

        Rule #1 – When a pitching factory such as the Astros, Rays, or Guardians gets rid of a pitcher, don’t fool yourself into thinking your pitching coaches are going to get more out of him.

        Rule #2 – If you’re trying to unload a salary or you’re an agent looking for a team to overpay your player(s), target the most desperate owner / FO. In 2022 that’s the Rangers (on a return engagement from 2021), with the Giants not far behind.

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        • Orioles2024

          3 years ago

          Few and far between but the Sox got more out of Wacha last year.

          Odorizzi for 2.5MM isn’t a bad gamble.

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        • 1984wasntamanual

          3 years ago

          getting a guy that can start, even if he’s pretty bad at it, for 2.5m is not being desperate.

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        • JoeBrady

          3 years ago

          It’s similar in every sport. In FB look for players that have no supporting cast around them. The LB with 5 sacks, that gets doubled on every play, is going to look a whole lot better when he is surrounded by other threats.

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        • 1-LoneStar>2-*

          3 years ago

          Maybe Texas is bringing him in to teach them how Houston “does what they do” like Boston did with Alex Cora.

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  14. dudeman40

    3 years ago

    Allard would flash a little from time to time – but honestly, just wasn’t good above AAA

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  15. bhambrave

    3 years ago

    Odorizzi’s got a ring and next year he’s getting $12.5M. Life is good.

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  16. jjdunckley

    3 years ago

    If the Braves are gonna pick up any of their old pitchers, I want it to be Mike Minor. Let him and Morton eat up innings for old times sake.

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  17. Astros Hot Takes

    3 years ago

    when Jake had a good start, he was VERY good

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    • stroh

      3 years ago

      If I recall only a couple of them – vs A’s and can’t recall the second one.

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      • Poster formerly known as . . .

        3 years ago

        Since he won 10 games starting for the Astros in 2021-2022, maybe your memory is the problem. In his 12 starts for the Astros in 2022, he pitched at least 6 innings in which he gave up one or fewer runs four times.

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        • stroh

          3 years ago

          Yet he averaged 5 innings a start. Which meant he averaged 3-4 innings on the other 8 starts. My memory is very clear on Odorizzi.

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        • Poster formerly known as . . .

          3 years ago

          Yet you implied he had only one good very good start. In his half-season in 2022, he had a better ERA than Garcia or Urquidy, and of the six starters with at least 60 innings pitched, only Verlander and Valdez had a lower FIP. It seems you tend to remember the bad more than the good, which I suppose isn’t all that uncommon.

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        • stroh

          3 years ago

          All I know was that I and many Astros fans were praying at the break that the Stros get rid of him. It was sheer jubilation when we did – ask almost any Astros fan. He is no way close to being as good as Garcia and Urquidy. Go look at the number of games those guys went 6 innings. And the fact remains Odorizzi didn’t even make it to the 6th inning in the majority of his starts (75%). So I remember more bad than good because it was just that. I will say that he is worth $2.5M, not $12.5. But if the last 3 years were any indication, the Rangers may regret that as well.

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        • JoeBrady

          3 years ago

          Stroh’s been way off on this one. Odor’s ERA+ with Houston was 102 & 103 in his two years, by definition, better than league-average.

          This reminds me of Perez when he was on Boston. Some of the low-IQ RS fans thought he was horrible. He too had a 102 ERA+. I think some fans think everyone is either Verlander/Sale, or they are horrible. There is room in this league for guys that are #3/4 types.

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  18. mro940

    3 years ago

    Bryce the Elder!

    Lord Palmerton!

    Bryce. The. Elder.

    Lord Palmerton!

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  19. acmeants

    3 years ago

    I wish they had gone for Perez instead.

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  20. ToJoComp

    3 years ago

    Call him Eggs… cuz he’s Odorizzi (‍♂️ sorry)

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  21. rangers13

    3 years ago

    This is nothing more than a 2.5 million insurance policy if Dunning isn’t ready for the start of the season. Braves are paying 10 million leaving only 2.5 m for Rangers.

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  22. mils100

    3 years ago

    I like this for Texas. As a 4/5, he raises the floor and is an improvement over what they have.

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  23. Wilmer the Thrillmer

    3 years ago

    The first order of business for the Chris Young/Bruce Bochy era is to stockpile starters. The Rangers took a very low risk flyer on Odorizzi. They’ll possibly get Kershaw and maybe 2 or 3 others in the Bassitt/Greinke ilk.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      3 years ago

      The Dodgers didn’t issue a QO again to Kershaw. He’s either returning or retiring at this rate.

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      • .

        3 years ago

        Dodgers need him for 1 more year. And he’ll get a premium because of it.

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  24. HalosHeavenJJ

    3 years ago

    ATL saves $2.5 million and gets to try to fix their former first round pick.

    Texas takes a chance on Odorizzi that probably won’t work but doesn’t cost much.

    Did I miss anything?

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  25. Doug

    3 years ago

    Braves making room for Jacob DeGrom!

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    • Jesse Chavez enthusiast

      3 years ago

      As a braves fan lol nah

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    • getrealgone2

      3 years ago

      I hope not. Not worth the risk and money.

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  26. SkipperLou

    3 years ago

    Fun fact: Every time I saw All ard was starting I would place the bet that he gives up a homer. I swear that bet paid out 90% of the time lol

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  27. Orioles2024

    3 years ago

    Is Jake Odorizzi not worth than 2.5MM? Good deal for TX.

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    • RunDMC

      3 years ago

      12.5M option with a 6.5M buyout, after it was triggered

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      • Orioles2024

        3 years ago

        2.5 after the Braves pay 10. I’d take Odo for 2.5.

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      • admiral hopppaaa

        3 years ago

        That’s not how it works, that’s not how any of it works. The buyout was only applicable had Odorizzi declined the player option.

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      • Norman T

        3 years ago

        The Barves had the option to pay the buyout of $6.5 million but instead choose to pay $10million? Something not right here.

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        • admiral hopppaaa

          3 years ago

          No, the option was solely with Odorizzi. If he declined the Braves would have had to pay $6.25M as the buyout. However, he apparently didn’t think he’d get a deal that would cover the remaining $6.25M between the option and the buyout, so he opted in. The decision was out of the Braves hands.

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  28. Jesse Chavez enthusiast

    3 years ago

    Why give 10million to the Rangers? At that point it would be better to let him be a 5 starter for us. He wasn’t terrible just pretty bad.

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    • DTD/ATL1313

      3 years ago

      And WS contenders aren’t gonna go out there with pretty bad every 5th day.

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      • 1984wasntamanual

        3 years ago

        Didn’t they recently extend Morton to do just that?

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      • Jesse Chavez enthusiast

        3 years ago

        That part was an attempt at a joke. I still think they could have given him a bullpen opportunity instead of giving up that $

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  29. Mario93

    3 years ago

    Basically Rangers are taking a flyer on Ordorizzi. I like the move for the Rangers, they need pitchers, and Ordorizzi has been successful in the past. Definitely worth that deal imo. Braves paying majority of the contract 10mill? For a 12mill contract?. Not much to lose here for the Rangers, the rewards can be nice for them.

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  30. YankeesBleacherCreature

    3 years ago

    Braves are looking for a higher upside from a #4/#5. It’s a good thing for fans.

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  31. Camden453

    3 years ago

    Why would you give anything up for Odorrizzi?

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    • Idosteroids

      3 years ago

      After the Braves DFA Allard, the rangers can have him back.

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  32. chrcritter

    3 years ago

    does the $10 million count against the Braves luxury tax?

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    • User 401527550

      3 years ago

      Yes

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  33. nbresnak

    3 years ago

    Change of scenery for both players is probably best.

    Atlanta also has Mike Soroka, though he has pitched in years, he’ll be healthy and should be part of their rotation mix but wasn’t even mentioned in this article.

    Just saying…

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  34. outinleftfield

    3 years ago

    Odorizzi is costing the Rangers $2.5 million? That’s a bargain even if all they get is half a season of a back of the rotation starter.

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    • YourDreamGM

      3 years ago

      Other teams will get as good or better pitcher in the same price range in free agency.

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      • 1984wasntamanual

        3 years ago

        Sure, maybe some teams will get lucky on signings, others will not. JO put up 1.3 fWAR in 106 innings. He’s not good, but he’s also not unplayable by any stretch. Generally a player like this would cost more than 2.5m in free agency on a 1 year deal.

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      • JoeBrady

        3 years ago

        There won’t be any SPs signed for that amount. $2.5M is nothing.

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        • YourDreamGM

          3 years ago

          Allard has value and I did say range so that’s more than 2.5M. I would guess there will be a sp who signs for 2.5 or less. The Pirates did say they are looking to add a sp.

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  35. davemlaw

    3 years ago

    Why wouldn’t the Braves just pay the $6.25M instead of$10M? They’re getting a pitcher back who isn’t worth the extra $3.75M, Allard is waiver wire fodder.
    This one is a head scratcher for the Braves but it’s a shrewd move by the Rangers. In that big ballpark Odorizzi should be just fine as a 5th starter; if not, you cut him for a minimal loss.

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    • 41em

      3 years ago

      Odorizzi had a player option. He informed the Braves he was picking up the option, worth $12.5M, so they traded him and saved $2.5M. Braves have four or more young pitchers who will compete for the rotation, plus Fried, Wright, Strider and Morton.

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    • 41em

      3 years ago

      Because Odorizzi had a player option worth $12.5 M

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  36. DarkSide830

    3 years ago

    Hard to be angry about this move from Texas’s perspective. At worst Odo stinks and they’re only down $2.5. If he’s a ~4.50 ERA arm that can eat IP that’s not bad at that price and he could be better than that.

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  37. oldredgunslinger

    3 years ago

    So,let me get this straight. The Rangers acquired a veteran pitcher, who’s had some success and 10 million for a career minor leaguer who can’t throw strikes and gives up runs by the bunches. I’ve watched Allard pitch for Texas and it was like watching batting practice.

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  38. YourDreamGM

    3 years ago

    Love it for the Braves. They need a better starter than Jake. 2.5 million and another pitcher for free.

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    • 1984wasntamanual

      3 years ago

      Of course you do, you think everything the braves do is awesome. It’s a side effect of being a massively biased homer.

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      • YourDreamGM

        3 years ago

        Their moves seem to produce decent results.

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  39. getrealgone2

    3 years ago

    10 million??!!? Yeesh

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  40. rolandveras

    3 years ago

    Rangers get a 2.5 million dollar back of the rotation starter, pitching in a contract year, for a pitching prospect no longer in their plans. Nice move by Texas…

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    • stroh

      3 years ago

      Odorizzi should pay them $2.5M to pitch for them. Sorry, I just get all the atom balls out of my head. It was like watching batting practice.

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      • 1-LoneStar>2-*

        3 years ago

        His 2022 stretch for Houston was the lowest HR/9 of his career. Overall time in Houston 1.2 HR/9, same as his career total. Sorry Jake didn’t pick up the “Patriot Way” enough for your liking.

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  41. Edp007

    3 years ago

    The stench in the Rangers clubhouse has not been the same since Rougned left. Had to bring back some kind of Odor back.

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  42. olereb

    3 years ago

    I don’t think this was a smart move by the Braves, or what is the hurry. Allard is not a major league pitcher is one thing that’s wrong. Number 2, was the Braves under pressure to make the trade, could they not wait to see if they could make a better deal. Just seems stupid to pay another 90 percent of a players salary to play for someone else. There’s a better use of 10 million dollars

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  43. TomToms

    3 years ago

    I know he has had some struggles, but Allard is still young. Imo, he is going to be a pretty good pitcher yet. Braves should be thrilled to have him back.

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    • 1984wasntamanual

      3 years ago

      based on what?

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  44. dirty617water

    3 years ago

    $2.5M is not bad for a pitcher of his caliber. Rangers won that deal.

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  45. Rsox

    3 years ago

    Rangers needed a veteran starter and gets one that at least comes with cost certainty while the Braves were able to get something back instead of just eating salary (and they got a player they are familiar with and who has had success within the organization). Seems like a win/win deal to me

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    • 1984wasntamanual

      3 years ago

      Unless they think they see something they can fix with Allard, This is not a win for the Braves. Allard has been bad. He showed some promise in 2019 but his HR/9 have consistently gone in the wrong direction since then.

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      • Rsox

        3 years ago

        The win is they got something in return rather than dead salary. Even if Allard is nothing more than AAA filler it’s better than nothing

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  46. bravesnation nc

    3 years ago

    The money is not on the issue. The got rid of him because they have multiple options to fill out the rotation (Elder,Soroka,Anderson,Muller) that’s just a few didn’t even mention Tarnak down in AAA. They can eat the money in 2023 in 2024 they have at least 40 mil coming off the books. We need a SS and not another starter and don’t talk to me about that “cup of coffee” Grissom had filling in for Albies. Braves are a championship caliber team need proven major leaguers. It was a great story with Money Mike, and Strider but that’s not how you want to do it every year.

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    • 1984wasntamanual

      3 years ago

      Is 2.5m really gonna make a difference between them getting a SS or not?

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  47. Cincyfan85

    3 years ago

    I don’t know why people are so harsh on Odorizzi. His numbers aren’t that bad. He seems like a fine 4th/5th arm in the Rangers rotation and an upgrade over what they had in 2022. Good for the Braves because it makes more room under the luxury tax. Makes me wonder if they’re going after DeGrom.

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  48. Bald eagle 49

    3 years ago

    I think Allard goes to AAA and it opens up a spot on the 40 man to bring somebody else in.

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    • UGA_Steve

      3 years ago

      I will caveat this with the opening that I am not certain all the player/labor/options lingo os I might be stating this incorrectly but I think it backs up what you sare stating.

      You are absolutely correct with Allard. Braves will DFA him and try to bring him back in under a minors deal and thus open a spot on the 40.

      That would have been a problem with Odorizzi because if they DFA him and he chooses not to go, then they have to eat the entire salary minus the MLB minimum he likely gets somewhere else..

      So this is all about saving a 40-man spot with the bonus of getting a small reduction in payroll.

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  49. King Floch

    3 years ago

    Surprised the Braves ate so much money, I think I would rather have Odorizzi as rotation insurance than save an almost insignificant $2.75 mil. I guess they REALLY like Allard…?

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    • Orioles2024

      3 years ago

      Liked him so much they traded him away a couple yearss ago?

      His value was at an all time low. This doesn’t save a 40 man slot either. Weird deal. Maybe they fix Allard.

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      • King Floch

        3 years ago

        Yeah, this one is kind of a headscratcher.

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  50. JoeBrady

    3 years ago

    I like this a lot for Texas. There is always a chance that his Atlanta numbers will be his TX numbers, but then they only wasted $2.5M.

    Or he could revert to his Houston numbers, which are only three months old, in which case, it is a steal.

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  51. justinkm19

    3 years ago

    A usable starter for 2.5M. Sounds like a steal to me.

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  52. justinkm19

    3 years ago

    I don’t know why.

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  53. 1-LoneStar>2-*

    3 years ago

    Chris Young continues to work outside the box and make the most of what he inherited. Combine that with another payroll increase, and maybe MLB cracking down on Houston using foreign substances and they could have a real shot.

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  54. Steve E.

    3 years ago

    Hey, you forgot Mike Siroka.

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  55. citizen

    3 years ago

    braves trade kolby allard for kolby allard

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  56. BuyBuyMets

    3 years ago

    Big win for the Rangers. A proven mid-rotation starter for a guy who has shown no sign of major league success in 5 tries.
    $2.5 proven starter vs. lottery ticket middle reliever?

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  57. Asmongold

    3 years ago

    It’s always funny revisiting stuff like this – mlbtraderumors.com/2019/07/rangers-trade-chris-mar…

    I remember people crying about the braves getting fleeced. Allard sucks, but I’m glad they got rid of Jake.

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    • NashvilleJeff

      3 years ago

      Was hilarious reading some of the comments about that deal. One commenter in that thread vented his loathing of Kyle Wright while he was bashing the Braves FO for dealing Allard.

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  58. Paleobros

    2 years ago

    I’m trying to understand how this makes any real sense for the Braves.

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