The White Sox are showing strong interest in free agent starter Mike Clevinger, according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic.
Clevinger, who turns 32 in less than a month, is two years removed from Tommy John surgery. He returned from the procedure this year to post a 4.33 ERA, 18.8 K%, 7.2 BB%, and 35.2% groundball rate in 114 1/3 regular season innings for the Padres. He also started a pair of playoff games, allowing seven earned runs in 2 2/3 innings.
The White Sox currently have a solid starting four lined up for their 2023 rotation in Dylan Cease, Lance Lynn, Lucas Giolito, and Michael Kopech, though Kopech is recovering from a pair of injuries. Clevinger could potentially fill the shoes of Johnny Cueto, himself a free agent. Cueto proved invaluable after signing a minor league deal with the Sox, posting a 3.35 ERA in 158 1/3 frames.
Though Clevinger’s post-Tommy John work was uninspiring, some teams may hope further distance from the surgery and/or tweaks to his repertoire can recover some of his previous form. From 2017-20, mostly pitching for Cleveland, Clevinger put up a 2.96 ERA over 489 1/3 innings, including an excellent 19 K-BB%. He was quite possibly one of the 20 best pitchers in baseball during that time.
The Padres acquired Clevinger from the Indians in a nine-player trade at the 2020 trade deadline. It’s worth noting that the White Sox were also in the mix for the pitcher they knew so well from the AL Central, though Rosenthal heard from one team official who felt they were used as a “stalking horse.” Clevinger made four starts as a new Padre, but was then scratched for what was at the time called biceps tightness and later revised to an elbow sprain. The Padres brought him back for Game 1 of the NLDS that year, but he was pulled from the start and was on the operating table the following month.
At the time of the surgery announcement, the Padres also bought out Clevinger’s final two arbitration years for a total of $11.5MM, effectively paying him that amount for what he could contribute in ’22. Though Clevinger remarked in March, “I feel healthier than I have in my entire career,” he sprained his knee shortly thereafter, leading to a May 4th season debut. He hit the IL again after three starts due to a triceps strain.
Over his first ten games, Clevinger was able to miss bats at an above average 24.7% clip. Over his last 11 starts, however, Clevinger punched out only 13.5%. Clevinger lost a bit off his fastball as the season wore on, occasionally working at 95+ in some of his earlier starts versus a few sub-93 games in the dog days of summer. Denied communication with the Padres during the lockout as well as a typical spring training, perhaps changing those variables will lead to better results for Clevinger in 2023.
With a cast of unproven hurlers vying for the fifth starting spot and Kopech recovering from knee surgery, White Sox pitching coach Ethan Katz recently commented, “Obviously, we need another starter,” as reported by James Fegan of The Athletic. But as Fegan noted from the GM Meetings earlier this month, “If there’s one thing the White Sox are not touting about themselves this offseason, it’s their payroll flexibility.” For an overall view of the challenges faced by GM Rick Hahn, check out my Offseason Outlook here.
MLBTR ranked Clevinger 49th on our top 50 free agents list, predicting a one-year, $10MM deal. While we do find a two-year pact plausible for Clevinger, it’s possible he’d prefer to sign a one-year contract to rebuild value in ’23 – though he would be subject to a qualifying offer if he succeeds. A handful of starting pitchers have come off the board at this early point in the offseason, Martin Perez, Tyler Anderson, and Nick Martinez chief among them.
This will not end well.
Clevinger was traded at the “2020 trade deadline.” LOL. When was that exactly? Right at the midpoint between Month 1 and Month 2, I don’t recall. SMH 2020 “season” was a bad joke that’s definitely been told too many times.
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Tell that to the Dodgers.
2020 was too short of a season for even Dave Roberts to screw up
They need a lefthanded starter. Why would they waste money on Clevinger when they already have Davis Martin? JR needs to either sell or start acting like a big market team. They probably won’t finish higher than third place next year.
Why are you up so later Tim?!
Complaining about more content?
weird player to prioritize when the big needs are 2B and OF. oh well.
I doubt signing Clevinger would prevent them from addressing those needs.
The Sox always prioritize (mediocre) pitching and ignore everything else.
Maybe bigger, but right now, they have only 4 starters. Lambert and Martin could fill that role, but this would be a relatively cheap upside play.
Red herring!!
Diversionary tactic!
Sox will sign Judge!
@#1WSF, You are delusional. I have a better chance of winning the lottery and figuring out how to teleport than the Sox FO has of convincing JR to part with that much money.
The 3 “P’s” of baseball:
Pitching!
Pitching!
Pitching!
Where does it mention that he’s a priority?
the headline is “white sox showing strong interest in clevinger” and its the first white sox free agent headline of the off-season. if thats the one player linked to the white sox publicly, that means hes a priority.
unless i missed the “white sox showing strong interest in trea turner and michael conforto” or whoever headlines…
Strong interest ≠ priority.
they just signed him. looks like i was right.
Them signing him confirms the strong interest. Like I said, strong interest ≠ priority.
Pretty hard to time this guy with his nutty wind up. I wouldn’t want him on my team though. I couldn’t watch him do that every 5 days or so for 2 hours. Seeing it a couple times a year is more than enough.
Agree. I can’t stand watching the pee pee dance, and seeing it every 5 days would be torture. OTOH, the pitch clock might curtail some of that.
Bringing the pee pee dance to the South Side!
They can use him as the guy in the bullpen that pitches when you are up or down by 6+ Runs because you don’t want to waste good pitchers on those innings.
He wouldn’t sign on for that, just like Belli won’t sign on to be a platoon player. These guys want a lot of playing time to rebuild value, not to be sitting at the end of the bench.
There is a lot of upside there potentially and if nothing else he will be a decent #5 starter. He’s not gonna cost a lot.
A perfect offseason for the Jays for me would be this guy, Nimmo and belly. I don’t see it all happening but they need to get 2/3 I believe and then depending on the OF they get trade Jansen or Kirk for the other Oaf they need
White Sox Showing Strong Interest In Continued Mediocrity
What’s wrong with going after him as your number 5 starter? He’ll be cheap and has proven to be a good starter.
Yeah, like two-three years ago. it’s kind of like, What have you done lately?
And one of those years was spent injured. He came back and had a decent yr. If you’re looking for an ace, definitely not. But like I said, a good number 5 starter.
From 2017-20, mostly pitching for Cleveland, Clevinger put up a 2.96 ERA over 489 1/3 innings, including an excellent 19 K-BB%. He was quite possibly one of the 20 best pitchers in baseball during that time
While this is true? I see it as a hard sell to ever see him return to that form? Maybe, I didn’t see it happening for Wainwright either but it did?
Did Preller ask thar clevinger pass a physical before being traded? Always ask for a physical kids before swinging a trade
Decent buy low candidate. Worth a shot
Clevinger is a waste. The dude couldn’t pitch in the biggest park in baseball, San Diego. How’s he gonna pitch in the band box Chicago?
He seems to have done just fine…
I agree with you and Hippyripper. Some fans don’t go back any further than one year of stats. It all depends on price, but I think “2nd year back” guys like Syndergaard & Clevinger are decent gambles.
That trade was terrible!
1 year/$4M w/ a $1M buyout on an $11M club option maybe?
If it was still 2012 maybe.
Prediction is 1/10. Maybe 2/18 if he wants the 2nd year.
id think Clevenger’s market is well above Johnny Cueto’s, hard not to give Cueto another year, have to extend Giolito before you make a big FA acquisition
There is no chance Giolito will sign an extension. He is looking forward to free agency.
If he buys into this team, he’d take a team friendly deal for a couple more seasons, he didnt pitch himself into any kind of FA frenzy last season, he has a lot riding on this season.
Giolito has absolutely no interest in signing onto this mess. He wants to get back home out West. The Angels would love him. A perfect fit.
He’s never said he wants to play on California. He said he likes playing in Chicago, but that was before last season’s LaRussa debacle.
Are you telling me that you don’t believe the CWS have approached Giolito yet, with a contact extension?
He wants OUT!
This guy might be a great risk signing for any team. I think it might take 1/10 mil though. With incentives. If a team can get the baseline down to 6 or 8, then go from there. I’d go for it for sure.
I agree, he would be a very solid 1 year dice roll for a fringe contender without a ton of money to spend or a non-contender. If he improves, maybe he helps you push for a wildcard or snags you an interesting prospect or two at the trade deadline. If not, he comes off the books at the end of the season and life goes on. Even as a 5th starter candidate on a better/richer team, you can definitely do a lot worse.
Rodon got 2 / 45M with an opt out after his first strong season back from injury, granted Clevinger wasnt quite as good but its a fair comparison.
Fine if it’s a 1yr deal under 10mil to regain motivation for new final contract like Cueto. That aside, eye opening trade would be shipping Hendriks off since a team with poor offense against RHPs (and subpar D) doesn’t need to carry an 8 figure closer. Seems like a Dodger fit. Maybe they can see if Lux available to realize his potential as a lefty 2B WSox could use as part of a deal. They have to be creative with trades and cash dumps as priority #1.
With Davis Martin penciled into the fifth starting spot for the White Sox at present, pitching coach Ethan Katz recently commented, “Obviously, we need another starter,”
Nice vote of confidence from the “coach”.
I wrote this poorly, like Katz was specifically dissing Martin. That was not the case, so I edited it.
The Sox are looking for a fourth starter to replace Cueto. That’s not a knock on Martin, who was already likely get the fifth slot.
Maybe Ethan Katz still has 2022 on his mind? The White Sox lost Lance Lynn for a couple of months after tearing his left knee tendon during his last spring training start. This came shortly after the news that Garrett Crochet would require TJ surgery. Crochet was expected to assume the role Michael Kopech had the previous season as a flexible bullpen option and occasional opener. These injuries resulted in the White Sox signing Johnny Cueto to a late spring minor league deal.
Katz also has the poor early season showing of Dallas Keuchel fresh in his mind. Keuchel was ineffective before finally being released in late May. Cueto had built up enough arm strength at AAA Charlotte and was added to the White Sox rotation about a week before Keuchel’s DFA.
Lucas Giolito was also having a subpar season to that point and continued to struggle for most of 2022. Michael Kopech was solid early on but was being handled with kid gloves knowing that his innings would be limited in 2022 following his own TJ surgery and a missed pandemic season. Kopech had his own assortment of health issues in the second half that saw him hit the IL and eventually end his season early with late September knee surgery. Of the 5 expected opening day starters, Dylan Cease was the only one who stayed healthy and produced for the entirety of 2022.
I hate to even say it because I liked Crochet from the beginning, but I was always fearful that he would have tj surgery because of the way he pitched. He three hard, but there was something about his pitching motion that made me think that.
If u are looking at him why not bring Cueto back? That guy kept them in a ton of games last year and he wasn’t blowing people away so he should be almost the same pitcher. Signing clev seems like a move we have tried in past seasons.
I suspect like AJ Pollack, many of these players simply will not want to play for the White Sox organization unless it is their only option or it is a significant overpay. Just a poorly run organization and a bad clubhouse.
Bingo!!!!
Pollack was a waste of space with the Sox. Nobody cares that he left. To somehow blame his departure on a “poorly run” organization is a reach. I agree however; the White Sox could use better ownership. No one can dispute that. But that organization up north is far worse in many respects. They really have no excuse why their roster is a dumpster fire. They make more money than the Red Sox, but spend money like the Savanna Bananas. Dogbone is desperately trying to convince himself that his team of choice is superior. Like all Cubs fans, however, they know deep down inside that they are being duped. The cognitive dissonance is palpable.
I gave a like because of the savanna banana.. I have no idea what that is… but I like it
Don’t feed Dogtroll. Most have him on mute so his vacuous rumblings barely register. Aside from his self likes.
Maybe it was his bulky knee, maybe it was the long season after coming back from his second Tommy John. Either way clevinger was total trash at the end if the year and especially in the playoffs. Between clevinger and manaea the padres basically had no 4 or 5 starter to finish the year.
Perhaps clevinger can comeback stronger next year but he looked cooked at the end of the season so there is some real risk here.
Cueto is better than this guy. Clevinger looked like a batting practice pitcher last year.
Mike Clevenger will turn 32 in December. Johnny Cueto will be 37 in February. Clevenger is also two years removed from his November 2020 TJ surgery. Cueto wasn’t exactly a model of health and productivity as a Giant since 2016 before rebounding last season with the White Sox. Clevenger has both age and a better track record of more recent ‘ace’ production on his side.
Rick Hahn has his hands tied with budget restraints from his boss. If I had to gamble on either pitcher my money would be on Clevinger. That said, Hahn has many more options with second and third tier free agent arms than just these two. He also figures to explore the trade market for a SP in addition to his pursuit of a lefty bat who can also provide better defense in the outfield, fill the hole at 2B and perhaps add a veteran catcher.
Explore the trade market for a starting pitcher and maybe a 2b and sp. I’ll believe it when I see it. For now, it’s all talk. As for Cueto’s age compared to clevinger’s, what difference does it make if the older guy pitches better than the younger one? Would you release Verlander a year after winning his third Cy Young and helping his team to a WS victory just because of his age? You have to judge players by their performance, not their age. Remember guy named Albert Pujols who accomplished some good things at age 42?
I agree with most of what’s been posted here. This would totally be a typical Sox move. That’s not to say that Clevinger can’t bounce back and be effective and probably won’t cost much. It’s just that this team is supposed to be competing and have no reason not to be healthy and ready come spring training. I’d hope they’d aim a little higher or at least, as others have said, bring back Cueto.
This would be an excellent signing for the Whte Sox. I sure hope that it happens.
This signing would be fine. Davis Martin still has minor league options left. Charlotte has nobody else ready to come up so adding pitching is always going to be fine
Just resign Cueto
How about we sign both Clevinger and Cueto? At least one will get hurt, but you can’t have too much starting pitching.
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Fans of White Sox rivals undoubtedly hope the White Sox sign Mike Clevinger.
You are correct ! Waste of money when there are a lot of young pitchers out there ready for breakout seasons.
Got to wonder how much Sunshine will have to change his “mechanics” with the pitch clock?
I thought Sox were going to improve with trades ! I’d rather they get a SP they could control for a few years. Seattle’s Brash and or Flexen could fit the bill. One catcher Kirk from Blue Jays would work. You need a good SS to work with any 2B. So any big investment there is a waste as long as TA is the SS. Sign Andrus trade TA for a 2B and trade Giolito for the two SP’s in Seattle. Send Hendricks and/or others maybe TA for Kirk and or Merrifield. Merrifield can play OF too! More flexibility. TA won’t play the OF, he’s not a SS. Robin Yount moved from SS to OF and became a HOF’er.
Pollock surprised Sox by turning down option.
Gave Sox extra $ to sign a FA!
Pollock left and took less money because he was with the Dodgers, who are a great organization, prior to coming to the Sox, who are a terrible organization.
What was worse for Preller – the Clevinger trade or the Austin Nola trade?
I’m not even a Preller hater, as I acknowledge that he has made plenty of good trades as well. But those two were absolutely brutal ones.
Clevinger has issues that might cause Brady-esque issues. His connection to the Lindsay Hill/Trevor Bauer situation is intimate (Clev’s name in the mix during depositions, I guess). He’s got a young child in the mix.
This comment aged perfectly.
Yes Clever-ger was a bad deal, but maybe it’s a precursor to getting Bauer (lol!). They can alternate suspensions unpaid, that could help budget. They should have traded for one of the Mariners pitchers.
Assuming you meant one of the Marlins pitchers?
Clevinger should have gotten a divorce instead. It would have been way cheaper. That would have been more clever.
Right now either team would work, Flexen or Brash are more probable. Spring ball next month and we will be down one starter maybe two with World Classic going on.
2B solved!