Carlos Beltran is back with the Mets in a new front office role, according to Jon Heyman, Joel Sherman, and Andrew Marchand of the New York Post. Beltran will work as an assistant to Mets GM Billy Eppler, SNY’s Andy Martino tweets. Beltran hasn’t officially signed a contract yet, though “it’s far enough down the line” that Beltran felt secure in leaving his broadcasting job at the YES Network.
The news comes a little over three years after Beltran stepped down as the club’s manager in the aftermath of the Astros sign-stealing scandal, as Beltran ended up resigning without ever actually managing the Mets in a regular-season game. The scandal created plenty of fallout around baseball, with the Red Sox also firing Alex Cora (who was the Astros’ bench coach in 2017) from his managerial post, and Houston fired both manager A.J. Hinch and general manager Jeff Luhnow. However, more than three years removed from the scandal, only Luhnow has yet to resurface in a new baseball-related role. The Red Sox re-hired Cora after the 2020 season was over, while the Tigers hired Hinch as their new skipper in advance of the 2021 campaign.
For Beltran, he returned to the fold last year, covering the Yankees as part of the YES Network’s team. Marchand reports that YES was going to shift Beltran from calling games into a studio position for pre-game and postgame coverage heading into 2023, though Beltran recently told the network that he wasn’t returning next season.
In terms of on-field jobs, the Padres had some interest in Beltran for a coaching role last winter. There were also speculative rumblings about a possible reunion between Beltran and the Mets last year, and Heyman, Sherman, and Marchand write that Beltran was indeed under consideration to be New York’s assistant hitting coach.
Instead, Beltran will now be working in the Amazins’ front office. This marks the second front office job of Beltran’s career, as he worked as a special assistant to Yankees GM Brian Cashman in 2019. The Yankees also considered hiring Beltran as manager before Aaron Boone got the job in the 2017-18 offseason, which would’ve marked an even quicker transition for Beltran given that he had only just ended his playing career when the Astros won the 2017 World Series.
While it raised some eyebrows when the Mets hired a manager who had never managed or coached at any level before, it wasn’t an entirely shocking move, given how much respect Beltran commanded around the game. Even before he retired, Beltran was often cited as a possible future manager, or a future front-office executive after he took the advisory role with the Yankees. Of course, that natural leadership ability was a double-edged sword, given that Beltran was reportedly the player who had the biggest role in the Astros’ sign-stealing methods, both helping to mastermind the plan and influencing teammates to follow suit.
No Astros players faced any punishment for their roles in the scandal, as the league gave players immunity in exchange for their details and information about the sign-stealing activities. Of course, Beltran did end up being unofficially punished via the loss of his managerial job, just two months after being hired. It is also fair to assume that the scandal impacted Beltran’s first appearance on the Hall of Fame ballot — while Beltran received a solid 46.5% of the vote and seems on pace to eventually be inducted, it is still a sharp drop for a player considered a shoo-in choice at the time of his retirement.
Yankee fans thank the Mets for removing Beltran from the broadcast booth.
I loved the guy as a broadcaster. His accent is a caricature in some ways.
Hilarious take. Trailer trash usually laughs at fart jokes I’m sure laughing at someone’s accent makes you feel real superior? Just don’t forget to cut a mouth hole in your pillow case before the clan meeting tonight, Grand Dragon. Also your cousin is tired of all the touching and bubble baths…redneck.
For Love of the Game
Interesting there Carl. You make cultural put-downs to argue against someone else’s cultural put-down. You both need some self-reflection.
Yes, the irony here is amusing to say the least.
I’d like to hear your analysis of a baseball game in your perfect Spanish. I guess you can barely speak English.
Having Beltran in the Mets organization opens the door for him to follow Buck into the dugout as manager someday.
@saluelthpops, question is, was it intentional or unintentional. I’m going with the latter.
Or follow Wally Backman right out of the league.
My thought exactly.
Emperor Palpatine and Lord Vader have replaced the Death Star with a hedge fund bank account.
For Love of the Game
Wasn’t that a bang-bang decision!
Lol Mandela effect, look it up
Probably the snarkiest joke I’ve ever made in my life. This isn’t a Kevin smith movie
Jokes are supposed to be funny.
Having him in the organization opens the door for him to follow Buck into the dugout as manager someday.
Believer in second chances. But not third chances
Good. He was a lousy announcer for the Yankees, and it was incredibly tone-deaf of the YES suits to hire him in the first place after he played a key role in the Astros’ cheating scheme. Good riddance.
How they dumped Cam Maybin before Beltran is beyond me, but my ears are deeply indebted to the NY Mets for never having to listen to him again. I feel bad for whomever has to sit through meetings with him though.
Cam was at least a good guy by all accounts. Bad announcer but nice man, and he was a great teammate in pinstripes. I wish him the best.
Cam Maybin is replacing Jack Morris on Detroit broadcasts
Maybin was caught taking PED’s. Wonder how many years he had been taking them.
And do you know which PED he was suspended for?
“San Diego Padres center fielder Cameron Maybin became the first major-league player to be suspended for performance-enhancing drug use this season Wednesday when he tested positive for amphetamines.”
Meanwhile, in recent years over 100 MLB players have had Therapeutic Use Exemptions to use Adderall, an amphetamine. That’s a far higher percentage of persons with ADHD relative to the pool of MLB players than occurs in the general population.
The Yankees have had horrendous announcers for years.
Except O’NEILL, he’s really good. So is David Cone.
Ken Singleton was great, too.
Kenny Singleton was the best for me. I thoroughly enjoyed his commentary.
Horrible move, dude is one of the sneakiest guys in baseball. One season on the Mets, he got knee surgery without telling anyone the year before his comtract year. He was out the whole season. I dont understand how this bum keeps getting chances. Should be banned from baseball
I thought that was Cespedes? I’ll take your word for it if you say I’m wrong though. Im sure I don’t follow the Mets as close as you.
Congrats on faulting Beltran for one thing he did right.
The Mets were demanding that he keep playing the outfield when his knee was bone-on-bone. He had enough of their incompetent, ownership-friendly medical staff and flew to a specialist in Colorado and got his knee repaired. Had he not done so, his career would’ve been over prematurely.
The fault was entirely on the other side — the Wilpons and their crappy medical staff, the same bums who destroyed David Wright’s career, sending him out to play with a fractured spine. They also pressured Jose Reyes to play with an injured calf that he told them was hurting, leading to a catastrophic injury in a game against the Dodgers when he tore his hamstring tendon, trying to beat out a ground ball. Then creep Jeff Wilpon, who had pressured him to play, tried to blame L.A.’s doctors for the injury, lying that they misdiagnosed it while they were in L.A. The pissed-off Dodgers would have none of it.
The Mets under the Wilpons were arguably the worst-managed team in the league, funding team salaries on the “vigorish” from not one but two Ponzi schemes they invested in with felons: first Samuel Israel III, who tried to fake his suicide, and Bernie Madoff. And then Manfred put Fred Wilpon in charge of MLB’s finance committee!
@Fink Ployed I hope you are joking. You are giving the man that orchestrated the whole Astros cheating scandal the benefit of the doubt. These players arent honest, especially him. Contract year was coming up so he decided to get him knee surgery and rest up to put himself in line for a big contract. Its obvious to anyone with a well functioning brain
Cool story. Except Beltran had his surgery in January 2010 and was back on the field playing for the Mets by mid-July and played the rest of the season. His walk year was 2011, and the Mets traded him to the Giants at the midseason trade deadline.
You shouldn’t make remarks about other people’s brain function, sport. Know what I mean?
His surgery completly ruined any hopes the Mets had at making the playoffs, 2 months of playing plus he needed time to unrust isn’t gonna cut it while he was one of baseball’s highest paid players
Keep changing your story. Eventually you might get it right.
BTW, the Mets finished 2010 in 4th place, 18 games out. I don’t think one player out for half a season was the difference between them making the playoffs and golfing.
So instead of repairing his knee, you wanted him to play in pain because you think he blow the Met’s chance to make the playoffs. Aren’t there 23 other players? Also, Mark Teixeira on ESPN admitted the Yankees stole signs too. Not sure why he was no longer on ESPN after that but HE ADMITTED IT. Baseball has cheaters through out the league. Roids, Corked bats, sticky stuff for spin rate. All an athlete has is his body to make money and you’re mad because he took care of his money.
Sledgehammer, meet nail. You hit the nail on the head with a sledgehammer. I’ve been a Met fan since ‘04 and the Wilpons have objectively been the worst owners in NY Sports, arguably in all of baseball. I knew they were bad but I didn’t know about the Israel thing. Trash-talking their stars to drive down prices, arguing with the press. In ‘08 they claimed they had a higher payroll than what was reported and come to find out, they were incorporating costs other teams weren’t to make it appear they were spending the more. “Well if you factor in the peanut guy and beer vendor we’ve spent $100mil.” Now that they’re no longer in charge, it’s amazin’ (pun for free) we have any fans. The Met fan deserves Steve Cohen after years of used car salesmen as owners.
Mets CEO Fred Wilpon and team president Saul Katz also pretended they lost money with Madoff, when actually they somehow knew to bail out before the scheme crashed and they got out with net profits. The trustee for the real victims had to take them to court to recover money from them for his clients.
put it in the books
You made most of that up. You should be banned from baseball
Number one guys a hall of famer
Number two you’re probably overestimating the role a special assistant plays lol
Mets can’t quit Carlos.
But they had to put him down for a while.
How many more times, treat him the way they wanna do?
ya, the Mets don’t do like the Yankees and send our former stars to run the Marlins. 2% is all he owned.
Gosh, think there’s a campaign to raise his Q going on?
One of the greatest Mets of all time, but that Astros stink don’t wash off.
Lmao, yep. As a Mets fan, I couldn’t agree more. Loved his time here and he netted us Wheeler, but the cheating thing is huge.
the “Astros” cheating regime came from the Yankees with Beltran. Plus according to John Smoltz and Ken Rosenthal half the teams were also guilty of cheating, according to Joey Votto and other MLB players EVERY team was doing it
Many teams (not all) were doing it and then MLB banned it and teams stopped, with the exception of one team — the Astros — who also were doing it on a level not approached by any other teams and they continued with it through the postseason. That’s what angered the other teams, as it should.
Astros fans try to conflate pre-memo activities with the Astros continued post-memo activities to muddy the waters, but we all know what happened. Those fans (not all) are either being disingenuous or ignorant. Take your pick. 2017 is forever tainted.
Thank you for that succinct summary. There has been so much obfuscation since this scandal broke in 2019 and it continues through today. 2017 is the modern version of 1919, two stains upon the game that shall never be erased.
No the steroid era with the yankees winning five championships with half the team on roids was a bigger stain.
Which team wasn’t on steroids or PEDs though, Mets? They all were. Why? Because they were legal, so they were playing teams with the same advantages, they were just better, honestly.
To say that’s a bigger stain on the league and sport is hyperbolic, man. And if that’s true, then the cocaine/crack/PED Mets of the 80s would naturally be the worst stain on the sport. But again, I don’t agree.
I said the steroid era. The Yankees just happened to win a majority of the championships and had many stars using. That era was worse stain on baseball then the Astros. If Yankee fans want the Astros to give up that championship then they need to give up five.
Mets, I apologize, upon rereading your comment I interpreted it incorrectly. That’s my bad. My fandom got in the way of my reading… my apologies.
By all means I’m not saying the Yankees should give up their championships. I’m just tired of fans harping about the Astros when their teams have histories too. I’m not remotely an Astros fan but it’s time to move on and get over it.
I get that, man. Honestly I notice on here that one trend that keeps it going with some fellow Yankees fans, that would otherwise drop it, is the perpetual defenses by some Astros fans (which I understand to a degree). But hearing they were the only ones punished when all teams were doing it rekindles the fire for some (also understandably). We are a prideful bunch and many believe we could’ve won that year. Doesn’t help that Cashman still talks about it, even as late as this offseason.
But, I completely get your objective take on that. Lots of teams have done lots of stupid things and made the game worse for it. The Yankees also benefitted during some of those bad times. At some point we have to move on because the league certainly has.
Again, man, I apologize for misreading that comment. I should’ve reread it before responding.
Yankee Clipper, don’t say steroids were legal because they weren’t. They weren’t specifically banned for use by baseball even for injury because the steroids used were anabolic steroids, and unless you were a veterinarian they weren’t legal for humans. Don’t forget the guys who supplied those illegal steroids and their labs did jail time. Get the story straight.
Eastern League Veteran: I said “steroids or PEDs” because people use the terms interchangeably, which is why they term it the “steroid era,” despite the fact that many didn’t actually use steroids, allegedly.
Moreover, there wasn’t any real testing, so you may say they were illegal, but baseball wasn’t preventing it. In fact, they were encouraging it.
All in all, it’s semantics. Steroids are legally prohibited and have been, but I wasn’t referring to their codified status by individual states or the federal government; I was speaking specifically to the use of substances within baseball.
Also, ELV, as an added note, steroids were legal before they enacted the Steroid Control Act in the late-80s or early-90s.
Many body builders and other athletes could go to a doctor and have steroids prescribed for use (which people can still do, although not nearly to the degree which it happened). The league didn’t even enact any league wide testing until the 2000s, and even then it was inadequate.
@Mets6986?? This is your opinion, but not the opinion of the majority of baseball players who played during an after the Steroid Era. Almost every player who was asked stated that the 2017 scandal was far worse than PEDs because knowing what’s coming is a gigantic advantage to the hitter. Even a juiced up Barry Bonds had to guess what was coming.
I have never read anything where one player said the sign stealing scandal was worse then the PED use. Beltran is already receiving almost the same amount of hall of fame votes as Bonds and Clemens and Beltran wasn’t half the player they were.
I don’t mean any offense, but that’s pretty hard to believe. Tons of players spoke vocally about this. Since you’re a Mets fan, here’s an SNY article where mutliple players say it directly. https://www.sny.tv/
I am always amused by the “but what about…” defense. It avoids dealing with one issue, by bringing up a different issue. It’s usually used by people that don’t have an answer for the accusation. A wrong is not excused by a different wrong having happened. Both the sign stealing and the steroid Era are wrongs. Weak people claim peer pressure. “Everyone was doing it!” First, no they weren’t. Second, if so, they were all cheating, so they were all wrong.
@Clipper, why are you apologizing to a butt-hurt Mets troll who purposely introduced a false equivalency and a straw man to sidetrack the discussion. Now, in fairness, he doesn’t know he did that because it’s beyond him. : -)
I’m not the one continuously complaining about something that happened six years ago. The butt hurt ones are the people like you who bring it up every two minutes complaining that their team would have won. It’s 2023, the team was punished. Move on.
Did you post the wrong article? This article is about Lindor and Diaz happy he was back in baseball and trying to get the process done quicker.
@Mets6986 I used the mobile app. I think links are sometimes shortened when using that. If you’d like to google, The title of the article is “Baseball minds weigh in on what’s worse: the sign-stealing scandal or steroid era?”
Almost everyone sites the sign-stealing scandal.
Rob: One thing is for sure: the fights were a lot better during the steroid era! The late-90s Yankees brawls were some of the best!
I’d say another couple levels. A lot of teams used cameras in the outfield to steal signs and feed them to their baserunners who could then cause some extra havoc on second base. Astros used the cameras to steal signs in real time and then signaled hitters from the dugout.
There was an interesting article about how the Astros were trying to copy the Red Sox but their video room was really far away from the dugout so they just to decided to have assistants steal the signs and then signal the players.
all in the suit that you wear
Case: Please post a link for the article. Thanks.
2017 is not tainted when they were going against teams doing the same thing.
I don’t think you read the post. No one was doing what the Stros did in 17. Plenty probably would have, but the Stros cheating was pretty advanced.
2017 was tainted. Man up.
Bang, bang, bang
No, I read it. His post just wasn’t full of facts.
If everyone was doing the same thing and in the know it’s unclear why it took the Rays so long to catch on with Glasnow pitching that elimination game. The announcer (AJ Pierzynski) pointed out that it was strange the Rays had just switched up their signs with the more complex set designed to conceal the pitch calls from baserunners, despite the fact the Astros had no baserunners. Suddenly Glasnow is mowing down the Astros hitters which had previously been rocking him, and AJ again pointed out it was weird.
If everyone was aware of this as common MLB practice I don’t think it would have taken the Rays multiple innings and a large deficit of runs (that they never came back from) before making the change.
According to Alex Cora: “We stole that @#$% Word Series.”
Fever Pitch Guy
Joe – Absolutely right, and it’s in Evan Drellich’s book that just dropped. Cora not only wasn’t ashamed of what he did, he bragged about it to the team he had just taken over … one of the SAME TEAMS HE CHEATED AGAINST IN 2017.
Imagine Chris Sale, who was runnerup for Cy Young in 2017 and led the league in FIP and K’s, having to listen to his new manager brag about the cheating that caused Sale to give up 9 runs in 9 innings in that series. All the crap Sale had to endure after that performance, only to find out it wasn’t his fault … it was his manager’s doing. I would be totally ripshit if I was Chris Sale, not to mention the other Sox pitchers from 2017 that were still on the 2018 team.
steven st croix
Sad day for Mets.
Because Carlos Beltran is a joke
Career cheater might be the more straight up word to describe him.
Not happy about this as a mets fan, no reason to go near him til Old Timers day 2030 or so. Beltran doesn’t get it either, he wants to be in the hall, and his numbers more than get him there, but he needs to go away amd let people forget a little. Instead, he’s making himself too visible and it’s not going to allow time and absence to help rehab his image. Bad call.
Good point about the Hall.
deGrom Texas Ranger
Great! Even as someone who dislikes the Astros, I don’t care what Beltran did. He’s one of the best all around guys of all time. He got close to doing 40-40. I guess eventually, talented guys get something somewhere. Good luck Beltran! There is too much hate in the world. I don’t like the Astros and Mets, but this guy was quite something as a player. It’s hard for me to hate him.
“ this guy was quite something as a player”
Yes, he was quite a cheater. I wonder what other cheating he did? How can we trust his numbers?
deGrom Texas Ranger
Are you going to say that about Verlander and Greinke? How about Altuve?
We don’t know about Altuve one way or the other, but it’s obvious he benefitted from the cheating. He probably doesn’t get the MVP without it. Greinke and Verlander also benefitted indirectly, but they aren’t batters, so…
That’s some flawed logic son
Video replay coach. bang bang
Will he be in charge of the trash cans?
The 2017 Astro trash can should be in the Hall of Fame as the most successful cheat as it won them a World Series. (Full disclosure – I wanted the LA Dodgers, so not too unhappy with the outcome although would have rather seen both loose, but that was not possible).
Sign Bauer and go for the all-villain lineup?
Astros sign him then the Mets try to quietly hire him a few years down the line, the proven scumbag pipeline.
You mean no one liked Beltran’s commentary? Lol
Michael Kay: And here is Gleyber Torres, he’s 0-1.
Carlos Beltran: You know Michael with a runner on first base this is a good opportunity for Torres to hit the ball and go 1-2.
Michael Kay: why thank you Carlos for that wonderful insight.
Haha! Oh man, even that doesn’t do it justice and you did well. His poor commentary is simply indescribable…
“when you hit a ball hard like that, it’s a great feeling”
“when you come through in a big spot like that, it’s a great feeling”
“when you pick up your teammate after an error like that, it’s a great feeling”
Lolol, I’m thinking there’s a trend…
I did hear him once say, “In this spot he really wants to get a hit” or something similar. Like, yeah, no duh, isn’t that the goal each time?
Beltran had to be the worst announcer I’ve ever heard. Every line was either good opportunity or great feeling. Maybe they let Maybin go too soon. I didn’t think he was bad as he brought a fun youthful energy. But now probably some urgency to resign Paulie. Hopefully YES network gets rid of the vaccination mandate so he doesn’t have to do the studio 21 thing. I could also see them using a Jeff Nelson more now too.
3 guys that cheated which directly impacted winning are reinstated and have jobs but Pete Rose isn’t in the HOF..
The difference being some guys cheating to win, and another guy doing what he can to recoup massive gambling losses.
The Big Yo
OJ Simpson as his hitting coach. Go A’s!!!!
Let the sanctimony begin! Yaaawwwwnnnn . . .
It’s sanctimonious to think that people who cheat don’t deserve to be rewarded via high paying FO jobs? I don’t want him arrested or expunged from history, but I don’t think he’s entitled to nor deserving of any positions or status within the game anymore. I think that’s an appropriate and reasonable way to deal with his bad choices.
Banned for life? Does this punishment fit the crime? I repeat: sanctimonious.
Well, objectively speaking, a punishment of a lifetime ban *could* theoretically fit the crime since he orchestrated the whole thing, according to all the sources available.
I’d say that Pete Rose’s actions weren’t any worse. Although, it is fair to note that banishment was a known penalty for doing what he did, whereas Beltran’s action were specifically prohibited by MLB, but without any known specific penalty for violation.
Holding someone accountable = sanctimonious I guess. I’m not suggesting he should be blacklisted from making appearances or even going in the HOF eventually, but he doesn’t have an inalienable right to make money off of the game that he helped damage. Disallowing him from doing so is a very fitting punishment and hardly an extreme one. Considering his only “punishment” before this was losing out on a managerial post before hopping into a broadcast booth, I think he’s gotten away pretty light already.
Bart Harley Jarvis
To get even more money out of the mets.
I recently read a short history of electronic sign stealing in MLB. The first instance was in 1899. The Phillies had a guy in the scoreboard with binoculars and a button to activate a buzzer buried in the 3rd base coach’s box. Since Bluetooth hadn’t been invented yet, someone had to bury a wire to make it happen. Pretty low tech but the exact same results. The history went on to recount variations of this incident in every decade since then except for a pause during the Great Depression in the 1930s through World War 2 when players had bigger problems than stealing signs I guess. Then it picks up again with the Thomson homerun in 1951 and every decade since then has had some sort of incident involving off field use of technology and personnel for on field advantage in real time. Until now there weren’t any consequences for anybody for 120 years. I also believe the rumors that “everybody was doing it that year” so it’s hard to point fingers even though my team has been victimized twice by electronic sign stealing. Obviously the Mets think highly of him and that’s all that counts for now.
Darn – I knew that somehow it would all come back to being the fault of the Phillies…
…in the meantime, it was abundantly clear that this thread would be a hot mess after seeing the article.
The Mets hired him to beat garbage cans in the office?
I’m quite over the Beltran Houston Astros stuff personally. I actually feel like he’s one of the most under pre-appreciated Mets players of all time. He was a fantastic two-way baseball player at a premium position. Do I think he’s up there with the greatest Mets of all time? Absolutely not. But I think he also just took a lot of the fallout from that scandal because he was retired and most of the players on that team were still playing and had immunity. Also think this is an attempt by the Mets to get another Met in the Hall of Fame eventually. The Houston Astros cheating scandal basically had zero to do with the Mets and if he was cheating when he was with us then he wouldn’t have taken three strikes down the middle to end the 2006 NLCS .
He has taken NO responsibility for his actions in the sandal even though he was the mastermind behind the whole thing. He has never apologized. In fact, even though HE set up the sign stealing scheme, he tried to through management and the FO under the bus. Beltran is the worst of the lot. .
Cheater or no, he is definetly the 2nd best position player the Mets have ever had, just behind Wright and just ahead of Piazza and Reyes.
Talent-wise, yes. I was referring more to his “franchise icon” status, which isn’t terribly high. Pure talent level – absolutely he was one of the best to ever play for the Mets.
Beltran also brought it from the Yankees to Houston. Without him the Astros never get involved in it.
But they did. Don’t make excuses.
Pedro Martinez’s Mango Tree
VIP in charge of barrel bangin’?
Bart Harley Jarvis
Special Assistant to the GM responsible for malfeasance, skullduggery, and subterfuge!
Not giving Beltran a pass, he’s tainted his name forever, but it seems like he’s been made a scapegoat. There’s no way it was all just Beltran. All the teams that cheated, and there were many, needed organizational involvement. Like with steroids, we vilify the ones that got caught, while ignoring the systemic reach.
The commissioner singled out Beltran as the one that brought the system with him from the Yankees and the player who pushed for it to be used. As a player with HOF credentials and certainly a huge amount of pull in the clubhouse, he deserves all the blame heaped on him.
Its players like a 22-year-old in his 2nd full season in the majors that don’t.
Altuve, Bregman, Correa, Gonzalez, and others apologized in 2020. You know who didn’t? Carlos Beltran, the mastermind of the whole thing.
Beltran didn’t speak about the situation at all until April of 2022 and even then, he didn’t apologize and take personal responsibility. He only said that the TEAM should have stopped it.
“A lot of people always ask me why you didn’t stop it,” Beltrán said, per a YES Network transcript of the program viewed by The Athletic. “And my answer is, I didn’t stop it the same way no one stopped it. This is working for us. Why you gonna stop something that is working for you? So, if the organization would’ve said something to us, we would’ve stopped it for sure.”
Then he whined that he was the only player named even though HE was the player that came up with the plan. He never once manned up.
Of all the Houston players caught in the 2017 sign stealing scandal, Beltran deserves the most scorn and derision.
websoulsurfer, Again, not defending him. But the idea that he came up with the concept, pitched it to the FO, and got permission to go ahead. is complete conjecture. How do we know the FO didn’t go to Beltran and ask him to explore ways to steal signs? And maybe the FO did that since they knew other teams were doing it.
But even if Beltran was the father of it all, which is far from proven. the teams still had to say yes to a plan to cheat. And since the cheating was not limited to the teams connected to Beltran, his role as the czar of all cheating is not believable.
As I said he deserves what he got, but to assume everyone else was a minor player is naïve.
He did and it was documented in Ben Reiters Astroball which came out in 2018. Great read by the way.
It was Beltran’s concoction. His scheme. He got the coaches to allow it to happen. He ran it for the Yankees before and after his lone year in Houston. Mark Tiexiera talked at length about it.
Mets can’t win on their own, might as well enlist a cheat to assist a 400MM payroll.
Who needs him
Love the move. A lot of horrible takes in this thread.
You mean those of us who labeled him a cheater because he um… cheated?
No, I mean people saying he should be banned from baseball or people saying he’s not a great baseball mind. Yeah he cheated. He’s owned up to it and shown remorse. He lost a managerial job and lost HOF support because of it. I think that’s a fair enough punishment. I feel like he’s gotten the shortest end of the stick out of that entire situation. Cora and Hinch are both back managing and zero other players got any punishment whatsoever. The only reason his name was even mentioned was because he had just retired so he was no longer protected by the Player’s Association. If he was still playing, his name wouldn’t have even been allowed to have been in the report. Whether he was a mastermind or not, you can’t tell me that he, as a player, deserves more punishment than the coaches and front office members when the entire organization was well aware of what was happening. I can’t stand the Astros and that scandal was terrible, but I think he’s had his fair share of repercussions. Anyone in the league will agree that he’s a fantastic baseball mind to have in an organization. I think it’s a savvy move to bring somebody like that into a front office.
So, yeah, a lot of horrible takes in this thread.
deGrom Texas Ranger
Hate is prevalent on the internet. Think of the percentage of those who read this who actually comment on this article. It’s very low. Those feeling the strongest tend to comment more often.
A friend who works in the MLB head offices told me last year that teams had been “encouraged” not to hire Beltran in an on-the-field capacity. Makes me wonder if that is why the Mets hired him for a FO job.
Mentor to an Astros team on the verge of greatness in 2017 encourages and enables his teammates to embrace cheating. Yes, six years ago, and yes, other if not all other teams had versions of cheating as well. But this guy wasn’t just one of the cheaters, this guy had a leadership position in fostering the cheating culture. The brains (or lack thereof) of the cheating operation. MLB should not have to discourage teams from staying away from this guy.
Agreed, he should be banned for life.
WHAT A JOKE!!!! He should be banned from baseball, not working in a front offie. Biggest cheater in the history of baseball and he gets another job? Anything the Mets ever do with him on board will be tainted. Erases anything they do with him in tow. Unbelievable
Hired as baseball operations assistant. I figured he’d be hired as an audiovisual technician.
Cheaters gotta eat
In baseball, cheaters ALWAYS prosper.
“Mets Fire Beltran” in 3… 2….1…
He was an awful announcer. Thanks to the Mets for taking him.
Awful announcer. Enjoy the cheater, Mets.
He should be banned for life! Pete Rose is rolling in his grave!
Pete is still alive. Just sayin’
Pete probably bought it in advanced.
Lol Mets. Beltran is a cheater, liar, and a huge Mets choker.
When he was hired to be Mets manager he lied to Joel Sherman about his role in the Astros cheating scandal and was then fired.
He sucked as a Yankee broadcaster last year not able to listen to him.
He lied while with the Mets about his no show on a team trip to Walter Reed Hospital to cheer up injured vets along with the other lowlifes Oliver Perez and Luis Castillo.
He is bad rubbish and needs to be carted away from baseball and not honored with a FO position or a HOF honor.
Please read the ESPN article about Beltran written by Adam Rubin who was the primary Mets beat writer at the time about how miserable Beltran was at the time in the Mets organization.
Beltran clutch at bat striking out on 3 pitches looking with the bases loaded in the bottom of the 9th in Game 7 of the NLCS 2006.
@Robrock30 Wainwright came through with that obscene curveball. Unless great pitching doesn’t beat great hitting, somehow, Wainwright simply beat him. I have no fondness for the HOF CFer, but if clutchiness in the postseason exists, Beltran had it. Sometimes you just get beat fair and square, no matter how good you are.
In the bottom of the 9th, the Cardinals called on rookie closer Adam Wainwright to secure the pennant. As if this series needed any more drama, the Mets loaded the bases with two outs, with Cardinals Killer Carlos Beltran coming to the plate. Needing a single to tie, and a double to (probably) win the pennant, Beltran took a first-pitch changeup for a strike, then fouled off a pitch away, before taking a nasty curveball for strike three. Just like that, it was over. Goliath went down hard, and the Cardinals had the National League crown.
It was the bottom of the 9th the bases were loaded home at Shea Stadium with the loud crowd with a rookie pitcher on the mound.
If Beltran comes through there the Mets go on to probably win the WS against Detroit. All the pressure was on the pitcher with Beltran set to be hero. Instead he watches the 1st pitch, weakly fouls off the 2nd and goes down looking at a curveball. Every little leaguer knows you have to swing the bat down 0-2 there. Worst AB in a huge spot I have ever seen.
I respect your opinion but I disagree. Beltran was making plans on building a high school. Castillo didn’t want the visit to mess with his head. There are plenty of pro athletes that refuse to go visit sick kids in children’s hospitals for those reason. Oliver Perez lived with David Wright for about a year in the Flatiron Distict. How do I know that? My good friend owned a hair salon a few doors down and Wright was a client.
Beltran and the other two were malcontents on the Mets back then and he needed to attend Walter Reed Hospital and perform this social service. He didn’t and came up with his lame excuse which I didn’t buy and Adam Rubin who had the pulse of the team wrote his article deriding him accordingly.
When the Astros cheating scandal came to light and Joel Sherman asked him about this, he was caught lying again and was then fired as Mets manager.
This is who he is and the leopard doesn’t change his spots.
All the Mets headlines this off-season…..
What’s next? Mets hire Patrick Star as Special Assistant to SpongeBob’s Senior Vice Spatula?
The man who brought sign stealing to Houston! Can’t wait to see what he has up his sleeve now!!!
Well, I guess the Mets will be banging trash cans and having their players go to Anthony Galea. Maybe they’ll trade for Tatis Jr. so they can get his father’s hookups like when he introduced Beltran, Delgado and Reyes to Galea and Presinal.
Nothing can go wrong with Beltran in this role.
More mediocrity and worse to the Mets, who may be about to show that sometimes $468 million in payroll and taxes just isn’t enough to finish first. Or second. Anyone have even just a five minute interview with Beltran where he’s not stringing together cliches and banalities.?
So not Assistant GM but Assistant to the GM.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
Stealing signs, was ALWAYS, a tongue in cheek, gamesmanship…..and baseball was always played in fun, with a good spirit.
Something the current generations lack.
WAIT, until you guys finally figure out…..yes, some guys will assist their brothers by letting their bros get.that big hit or get that strike out…just at the right time….
Assisting their bros in landing that big dollar contract….
If.you guys don’t think they are doing.that, then you are all IDIOTS.
IF I have a big contract, set for life, richer than I ever could.even think.about dreaming…..
What’s it to me, to assist my brother in getting that rich as well? Why not?
Thats.been happening forever…..
What happened.Mantles last at bat in Detroit?
“Here it comes, fast ball, right down the middle,Mick…”
The Saber-toothed Superfife
All shows are about making money.
He hasn’t signed yet?
Is there a physical to do?
Do the Mets have an opening for Cameron Maybin too?
Why? Just why? Self inflicted wound.
He really did a bang up job in Houston…
The Mets tried to get cheater Correa, and when that didn’t work they got cheater Beltran.
deGrom Texas Ranger
This thread: He’s better than 99.5 percent of players to have played in MLB, but he’s a cheater! Waaaaaaaaa! Waaaaaaaaa!