March 31: The Mets have now officially placed Verlander on the IL and recalled Megill, per Tim Healey of Newsday. The move is retroactive to March 28.
March 30: The Mets announced that they will place right-hander Justin Verlander on the 15-day injured list with a “low-grade teres major strain.” According to the team, Verlander “will continue throwing at moderate intensity” and be reevaluated in a week. They’ll provide a further update at that time. Righty Tylor Megill will be recalled from Triple-A and take Verlander’s spot in the rotation for the time being, tweets Anthony DiComo of MLB.com.
The 40-year-old Verlander’s velocity was down in his final outing of spring training, but the team hadn’t hinted at any type of injury until today’s out-of-the-blue announcement. General manager Billy Eppler tells the Mets beat that Verlander first reported discomfort last night and had an MRI this morning (Twitter link via Newsday’s Tim Healey). Verlander himself said he was working through some things that he initially attributed to routine spring discomfort (video link via DiComo). However, when he felt continued discomfort into his final bullpen of spring training and “connected the dots” with his decreased velocity in his most recent spring outing, he decided to get checked out.
Until next week’s follow-up MRI, it’ll be impossible to know just how long Verlander might be sidelined. He’s voiced confidence that it’s minor in nature and said he’d pitch if this occurred during the postseason. That’s encouraging, but even a brief absence is notable.
The Mets are already without one of Verlander’s fellow offseason signees, left-hander Jose Quintana, who will miss upwards of half the season following a bone graft procedure to remove a benign lesion from his ribcage. Quintana’s injury pushed sixth starter David Peterson into the rotation, and they’ll now already be tapping into Megill, their No. 7 option, before a single inning of their season has transpired.
Verlander lost the 2021 season to Tommy John surgery and not only returned in 2022 but improbably stormed back to ace status at age 39, winning the American League Cy Young Award on the heels of a 1.75 ERA over 175 innings. He punched out 27.8% of his opponents against a masterful 4.4% walk rate, averaging 95.1 mph on his heater along the way and generally looking like his typical, dominant self. That brilliant comeback prompted the Mets to make a two-year, $86.66MM offer, matching the annual value on the record-setting contract they’d given to co-ace Max Scherzer.
Assuming Verlander’s absence indeed proves brief, he’ll still be expected to pair with Scherzer and give the Mets two of this generation’s most accomplished arms atop the starting staff. Still, it’s surely a gut-punch to a team that moved on from now-former ace Jacob deGrom largely for durability reasons in recent years. Verlander can be placed on the IL retroactive to March 27 — three days is the largest backdating permissible under MLB rules — so he’ll be shelved for at least the first 12 days of the season.
bjhaas1977
Here we go!
User 3595123227
Go where? Where we goin?
Treehouse22
Darn shame.
Jack5102
To the IL??????
Jack5102
To the IL????
Bart Harley Jarvis
youtu.be/tpKCqp9CALQ
Buzz Killington
This is why the Braves are better.
DCartrow
Uh, Fried left in the 4th inning today favoring a hamstring
Braveslifer
DC, how much are the Braves paying Fried?
harrycracks 77
Phillies are better until they arnt. NL CHAMPS
SaltLakeBrave
Problem for you is, the Phillies aren’t better. The new playoffs are a joke. The Filthy‘s should never have been in the postseason last year.
bronxmac77
Yes. They should have.
Walk Off IBB
When people say that x team shouldn’t have made the playoffs, I always wonder where you draw the line. If we still used the pre-1994 system the Braves wouldn’t have made the playoffs in 2021.
VonPurpleHayes
Problem for you is the Phillies were better in the playoffs in 2022. The Mets lost to one of the teams the Phillies beat. It would be different if the Phillies had an easier path. They didn’t. 2023 is a new season and nothing from last season matters. Get over it
stymeedone
and he was still SAFE!
bronxmac77
Not nice to poke fun at choking victims, boss.
Cohen's _Wallet
Correct me if I’m wrong here but if everyone is answering SaltLakeBrave, and SaltLake is a Braves fan bashing the Phillies, how is this becoming a Mets thing? Just curious, unless SaltLakeBrave isn’t a Braves fan I’m getting confused here.
bronxmac77
I believe they’re all arch-rivals. But not St. Louis Arch rivals.
bronxmac77
Those playoffs hurt, eh?
Like a pair of pliers to a pair of gonads, eh?
bronxmac77
1968. Tigers & Cards. Best vs best.
Then MLB decided to go for TV revenue.
Then more. Then still more. And here we are!
astros_fan_84
1968. The year of the pitcher, which lead to the lowering of the mound and the DH. An interesting year to say the least. But also more than 50 years ago.
bronxmac77
True. But the convo started with someone referencing the older playoff systems… With less teams. I merely continued the train of thought.
vtadave
Yep Braves have all healthy guys like Fried, Soroka, Wright…
BPax
Mr. Cohen, quick, sign Bartolo Colon to a massive, multi-year deal!
Curly Was The Smart Stooge
Blow, blow, blow the (old) man down…
Who’d a thought?
Very Barry
We have seen this before. Verlander out for 2 months! Father Time remains undefeated!
joseselmer
Here we go!
CaptainJudge99
That didn’t take long.
RyanD44
Just the Mets being the Mets!
Saint Nick
Mets gonna Mets
Milwaukee-2208
Anyone who thought this roster construction was good by Cohen, doesn’t know baseball. Two 40 year old pitchers anchoring your rotation isn’t the way you build a roster Stevie. No matter how much cash you toss at them.
Benjamin101677
I agree with you the Mets didn’t do major upgrades. They spent alot on money and on injury prone players. In my opinion the Mets are kinda doing what the 2021 giants did and run the same team from 2021 out in 2022. We saw that didn’t end well for the Mets. Currently; the 2023 didn’t make any huge upgrades from the 2022 team that ran out of steam. With the current line up I could see the Mets missing the playoffs all together
avenger65
What players aren’t injury prone from 20 to 40? All you have to do is read the headlines of almost every article posted on this sight. I like the fact that Cohen is so eager to win that he spent a fortune this off-season trying to get there. The problem is, he seemed to go for names instead of positions. It would have helped if he listened to a baseball man to help guide him in what players to pick. For example, signing seven big name pitchers while neglecting 3b because they don’t have big names doesn’t add up to a winning team.
Roll
@Benjamin
Name me one free agent high end starter that was not injury prone this past offseason … then remember the mets needed 3 starters Regardless if you viewed megill and peterson as rotation pieces or not you will need atleast 2 starters for depth in the minors and the mets lost 3 top starters in Degrom, Bassitt, and Walker.
Tigers3232
@Benjamin, in 14 seasons Scerzer has started 30 or more games 11 times, then 2 seasons with 27 and 23 starts. The third being Covid. He has been anything but injury prone.
As for Verlander in 16 seasons 13 have been 30 or more starts. One season with 28 and another with 20. He injured UCL in 2020 and missed remainder of season and 2021. Aside from Tommy John Surgery, Verlander to has been an absolute workhorse. The notion that the 2 are injury prone is absolutely laughable.
sfes
You’re talking reason to trolls. Despite the fact that Cohen is trying to donwhat the Dodgers did. They bumped the payroll up 100M 10 years ago to try to win while they rebuilt the organization. It’s a long term plan. Oh yeah and JV has a minor injury and his and Max’s careers are the picture of health and consistency.
bronxmac77
They’re… old. In all that time you mentioned, they were getting… old.
manfraud
One of them is coming off a Cy Young season and the other posted a 2.29 ERA (yes 145 innings but still). They have the depth to account for minor injuries like this
Buzz Killington
Exactly!!!
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@Milwaukee-2208 I’ve literally been saying this for months now and people have been thinking I’m crazy, I guess I was right again
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
Eppler is over his head. That GM has to go if Cohen wants to win.
drasco036
Eppler? You mean the Mets 30th choice? He did an amazing job with the Halos though, perineal division champs and World Series contenders.
bronxmac77
🙂
Shohei the money!
jyosuckas
Coming from a Brewers fan, that’s rich. Maybe they should move since your owner is too cheap to spend. Remember the Braves, they hightailed it out of there, maybe another owner and market will spend.
drasco036
All I’m going to say is that if you’re spending 300 million dollars, Dan Voglebach shouldn’t be your DH.
LATrolleyDodger
I agree with this. Ridiculous money for two 40 year old pitchers, albeit HOF pitchers and putting them as your 1+2. I don’t blame Verlander or Scherzer at all. It falls on Steve Cohen thinking about ticket sales and marketing over long-term stability in the rotation
Fever Pitch Guy
This is sad news, but not surprising. No matter the age, all pitchers are constantly at risk for injury. Clearly MLB should take a look at this trend, as it wasn’t like this years ago.
Mi Casas es tu Casas
And you provided nothing to dispute it so who’s the dumba$$
bronxmac77
He’s got you on the special characters, chief.
SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
Whats a “low-grade teres major strain”
bravesiowafan
For real never heard of this before I’m sure we aren’t alone
SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
They called it a low-grade which makes me think it’s something minor but then say major strain which makes me think it could be a big deal so I’m now confused
Brew88
.,..then there’s jumbo shrimp
Attystephenadams
The muscle is called the Teres Major. It’s a minor strain of that muscle. It’s below the shoulder.
ButchAdams
Teresa major is the name of muscle. It’s not saying major strain
avenger65
I think my brother dated her in high school.
sfes
They didn’t call it a major strain. That’s the name of the muscle.
harrycarey
Still trying to figure out how low grade and major get put in description, seems oximoronic
showmebb
Teres Major is the name of muscle.
No Salary Cap For You! (Come Back One Year)
Abbot and Costello routine in the making?
Ma4170
Muscle near the scapula
Pads Fans
Teres Major injuries result in pain and difficulty with activities that require sideways or backwards movements with the arm. Isolated tears of the teres major are quite uncommon, but may occur in baseball or cricket players, especially pitchers and bowlers.
physio-pedia.com/Teres_Major
User 2079935927
It’s caused by banging a hot wife.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Picking up too much heavy breast,
S_man_2014
isn’t this the same injury Degrom had last year during Spring Training?
websoulsurfer
DeGrom had a stress reaction on the right scapula. Same area, but the Mets said that deGrom’s injury was to the bone, not the muscle.
websoulsurfer
Just read that deGrom’s injury, while to the bone, “is caused by repetitive stress on the muscles that are pulling on the shoulder blade bone”.
Sounds like it may just be the same injury. Ruh, roh.
JudgementDay
Teres Major injuries result in pain and difficulty with activities that require sideways or backwards movements with the arm. Isolated tears of the teres major are quite uncommon, but may occur in baseball or cricket players, especially pitchers and bowlers
Latino Heat
Steal comments much ?
drasco036
I strain mine a lot from working out. It’s a little painful, makes it hard to take dee breathes but not very limiting and it heals relatively quickly.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Pace bowlers or spin bowlers?
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Asian parents are probably asking why it wasn’t a high grade instead.
getrealgone2
You can’t make this stuff up.
phenomenalajs
A top Mets’ pitcher getting injured or people being confused by a minor Teres Major strain?
utah cornelius
All the damn injuries, not just on the Mets, across baseball.
Sideline Redwine
Not all of us know everything, as apparently you do. Thus we ask questions.
We just strive to be as brilliant as you. (Insert eyeroll)
Brick 7
Can you say Rotator Cuff… Curse of the Orange and Black And Blue Strikes Again?
rememberthecoop
It’s not rotator cuff. This is a muscle below the shoulder blade so I’m not thinking rotator cuff.
Melchez17
As an internet doctor, let me give you my prognosis…. They might have to remove that Teres Major and replace it with part of the Gluteus Maximus muscle.
Thus, it will forever be known as “JV surgery”.
casorgreener
Let’s go Astros!!!
MLB Top 100 Commenter
Verlander, Quintana, Diaz and counting.
Benjamin101677
Diaz hurt the worst in my opinion as the fear factor of that late inning bullpen is totally gone. Not a Mets fan but Diaz did have a great home entrance song
avenger65
That’s what gets to me the most. Sure, Diaz is out for the season. But has anyone shed a single tear for poor Timmy Trumpet, who will also miss the entire season? Time to pass the hat.
cpdpoet
As a career Mets hater, this is tough even for me.
Want the NL East slaughter to happen on the field, not the IL….Hopefully this injury is not a bad one….?
Ma4170
Muscle strain near the scapula so hopefully just a few weeks?
VonPurpleHayes
At 40 years old, every minor injury could be major. Hoping for the best here.
YaySports
Especially ones that come with a loss of velocity. Doesn’t mean it’s serious but he’s lying saying he’d be pitching if it was the playoffs.
rememberthecoop
I’m guessing the loss of velocity could be due to Verlander slightly backing off on how hard he throws because of the discomfort.
Pads Fans
“Most of these injuries heal without the need to operate, and most players are able to return to play within three months”
rehabmypatient.com/shoulder/teres-major
bronxmac77
Three months, eh?
Nov-Dec-Jan… ;>)
Apr-May-June… ):=O
Kershaw's Lesser Known Right Arm
Woof
geg42
That’s a $4MM IL visit
VonPurpleHayes
Honestly this only happened because of Curly’s posts.
AllAboutBaseball
That’s what the Mets said about deGrom a “minor” injury and he missed a whole year.
86mets
Scherzer will follow him to the IL after todays game. Oblique injury. Again. Mark my words. While I hated the Wilpons, Cohen is spending WAY TOO much on aging stars. $86 a year for two 39/40 years olds? Really?
VonPurpleHayes
Everything you’re saying is true, but the good news for Mets fans is that the financial hit won’t stop Cohen from spending more money.
itsallbravesnation
The Mets have depth. We had injuries last year and won 101. Aside from Diaz, we are deeper. I still think we can win over 100.
VonPurpleHayes
I think you logged into the wrong username, bravesnation.
Sid Bream Speed Demon
Had depth. And wrong user name.
Latino Heat
You’re on fire today von
bronxmac77
He actually typed ‘death’. Fooking auto-correct.
itsallbravesnation
VonPurpleHayes. Nope.. Long time Mets fan since ’83. The NL is the Braves’ division until we can beat them. I respect the heck out of that organization (aside from the international draft pick cheating scandal). Been watching them own us most years since Dale Murphy roamed the outfield…
Things are changing though!
sfes
When will fools get a grip and realize that means nothing to Cohen? Its a long term plan. Dodgers added 100Mil+ to the payroll 10 years ago to stay competitive while they rebuilt the organization. He’s trying to do what they did, and frankly more owners should be doing what the Mets, Pads, Phillies, and Rangers are doing. These rich jagoffs won’t open their books while they collect millions and crap on their fans, ie Cincinnati. Their fans deserve better.
bronxmac77
Where do you get off calling a bunch of turds ‘fools?’
I agree though. Cohen should buy the NY Jets. and sign Lamar Jackson AND Aaron Rodgers.
Ma4170
I know the age doesn’t help w injury risk, but we’re seeing all pitchers can get hurt, and can be a total fluke. Look at max fried, Joe musgrove, severino (though he’s always hurt). I just never got the logic that degrom was more of an injury risk than JV, when JV missed all 2020 and 2021 w TJS, and degrom missed half of 2021 w arm issues and 2/3 of 2022 w scapula issue. Before that he was a rock, so that whole logic never made sense to me. They all get hurt unfortunately.
cbraves
It has begun!!!
Astros2017&22Champs
Its called the teres major fellas. Nothing to do with severity
cleonswoboda
I had that same injury some years ago. I think most of the cases surgery isn’t necessary,all I had to do was rest it which was a literal pain since I couldn’t sleep on my right side without it hurting like heck.
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Mrs. Verlander must be devastated.
Ducey
I think Kate Upton will be ok. She can take a holiday or buy a new mansion or country or something.
rememberthecoop
If she’s looking for volunteers to take his place sign me up!
Bluemarlin528
The perfect fill in for DeGrom
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Jon Arson Heyman was calling deGrom a part-time pitcher, though, in spite of him having more innings the last 3 years than Verlander. Take that NY media! Some fans are actually as bad as journalists, but they certainly don’t makeup for all the writers and social media fans hoping deGrom got injured.
Braveslifer
2 yrs/$86.67M (23-24)
Ron Hayes
Uh oh.
marshmallowman
mets are the cowboys of the mlb. all media hype, zero results
VonPurpleHayes
With their new owner, that comparison is more appropriate than ever. Still, let’s not count them out because of one (hopefully) minor injury.
rememberthecoop
That’s real currency he’s spending. Hype would be if he was talking about spending but was not doing so. Your Phillies spend “stupidly” too (reference to Middleton’s infamous comment).
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
As a constantly disappointed Cowboys fan, I agree.
Jake1972
I told a Phillies fan that the biggest bust this season will be the Mets…
ButchAdams
Weren’t met fans the ones talking the most crap about texas signing degrom? How’s his replacement working for yall? Degroms opening day starter, verlanders on IL
bronxmac77
deGrom*
Not DeGrom.
websoulsurfer
DeGrom if it’s used at the start of a sentence. If it’s used in the middle or end of a sentence, then deGrom.
toomanyblacksinbaseball
“The ‘de’ is properly an internominal (between names) rather than a forename/given name or a surname/family name. ‘De’ strictly means ‘of’, so Jacob of Gromm.” It is neither correct nor incorrect to use the Americanized De or de.
websoulsurfer
In a sentence in English, it’s a capitalized D if used at the beginning of the sentence.
It’s a Dutch name (Germanic), not a Latin one so the “de” means “THE”, not “of”. Jacob the Grom, not Jacob of Grom. DeSmid means the smith.
When using a Latin or Spanish name in a sentence, the “de” would not need to be used at all regardless of placement in the sentence. Just the “Grom”
Here is a great guide for that. libguides.dickinson.edu/
C Yards Jeff
The Grom had a rough day today.
toomanyblacksinbaseball
Emily Dickinson?
I taste a liquor never brewed –
From Tankards scooped in Pearl –
Not all the Frankfort Berries
Yield such an Alcohol!
Inebriate of air – am I –
And Debauchee of Dew –
Reeling – thro’ endless summer days –
From inns of molten Blue –
When “Landlords” turn the drunken Bee
Out of the Foxglove’s door –
When Butterflies – renounce their “drams” –
I shall but drink the more!
Till Seraphs swing their snowy Hats –
And Saints – to windows run –
To see the little Tippler
Leaning against the – Sun!
The editor and/or senior educated monitor of the jurisdiction is my guide.
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I am the walrus, goo goo g’joob
bronxmac77
deGrom
VonPurpleHayes
He did, but he got run support for the first time of his career.
bronxmac77
Excellent discourse. De ‘deGrom’ I was aiming at was in deMiddle of deSentence. I always capitalize deFirst word in deSentence.
deEnd
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Virtually everyone else who’s name starts with De spells it with a capital D. I love seeing that deGrom K/BB ratio, but I saw 3 strikeouts and 1 non walk that shouldn’t have been. 7/0 K/BB should be 4/1
JPopp9
Those were also some of the weakest hit XBHs Ive ever seen. He wasnt at his best but there was also some bad luck involved.
bronxmac77
I get the deStuff. But it looks dumb on the uniform. Names on the back are always ALL caps. Like Van der Wal. (damn Good Hitter) We all know that only one letter is usually capped. but the ‘de’ stitching always looked like a six-year old drew it on there.
Shake yesterday off, d. Your skipper is a hall of famer. You’ll bounce back.
Smacky
Mets are the undisputed world champions of breaking pitchers. Amazing!
ChuckyNJ
The Mets have never been world champions of anything other than Murica, F#&k Yeah!
clrrogers
I majored in teres in college.
Aaron Sapoznik
Ouch! NY teams having all sorts of issues with injured pitchers. It’s a big part of my 2023 MLB predictions which still have each club making the postseason but as wild cards rather than division winners.
Monkey’s Uncle
His name is Megill, he calls himself Lil, but everyone knows him as Nancy…
andyklngnbrgr
Not sure he’s the girl of anyone’s fancy though.
Monkey’s Uncle
I’ll ask him… he’s in the next room at the hoedown
User 2079935927
I thought it was Desmond. The that took the trolley to the jewelers store.
Captain Dunsel
It’s pronounced Throatwarblermangrove.
Sliderwitcheese
The division is there for the Marlins to take.
VonPurpleHayes
Max Fried just got hurt too. Please cancel all NLE games today. It’s a bloodbath.
Smacky
Yep. Time to cancel the World Baseball Classic!
avenger65
VonPurpleHayes: That’s putting it in the right perspective. While Mets fans are standing on ledges over Verlander,the Braves lose Fried. It’s a game of attrition. Whichever team has the most healthy players in October has the best chance to win.
bronxmac77
The Mets fans were standing on the ledge over Diaz.
Verlander has a pigeon pecking at their feet.
When Scherzer pulls a lat/oblique/quad muscle, they’ll slip on bird doo.
Whoops!
Robrock30
Lol Mets,
Can’t even get to opening day and they are dropping like flies.
2 SP down, no closer, and no depth either.
Need Butto to start games next.
Robrock30
I was waiting for this shoe to drop. I watched Verlander pitch Sunday velo was down to 91 and his control was poor walking 6 batters in 4 innings. He was injured as I suspected.
VonPurpleHayes
So he looked in playoff form?
Robrock30
Mets are in disaster mode and they haven’t made it to opening day yet.
Robrock30
VonPurpleHayes,
He was struggling vs a AA Marlin lineup with an away ST roster.
VonPurpleHayes
Haha. Missed my joke, meaning he’s not great in the playoffs.
Robrock30
Yeah I got it the 1st time
Latino Heat
Apparently you didn’t if you had to comment again
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
So if you get the joke, you’re not supposed to comment? I didn’t know that was an unwritten rule on the comment boards.
Latino Heat
He didn’t get the joke
bronxmac77
Yeah, I heard you the first time, Ike. $500 to the Ace!
bronxmac77
Rules here? No, there’s no rules, here.
Robrock30
Latino Heat,
VonPurpleHayes and JackStrawb are inside my “circle of trust” so when I state that I understood the joke about Verlander being in playoff form I should have commented such earlier so as to avoid the ambiguity to you.
Latino Heat
If you had to comment you obviously didn’t get the joke. Let it go it’s okay it went over your head no big deal
bronxmac77
Yanks had Verlander on the ropes last year. They pulled a George Foreman and punched themselves out.
VonPurpleHayes
Robrock’s a good egg. He got the yolk.
Robrock30
VonPurpleHayes,
Laughing with you but laughing at the other guy lol
bronxmac77
You obviously get your underoos in a bunch over trivial sheet, son. This is a conversation amongst grown-ups. Don’t you have homework?
Run along now. Spit spot.
utah cornelius
I’m not a Mets fan. I’m a baseball fan. And this just sucks. All these SP injuries on the NY teams just suck. It weakens the product, it weakens the game.
Ducey
I dunno. There is something poetically satisfying when an owner tries to buy the stairway to heaven only to find out that its not that easy.
ChuckyNJ
Don’t believe any hedge fund billionaires want to hear a whole lotta Led Zeppelin, not even on Opening Day.
bronxmac77
Not a whole lotta love.
Rsox
“Welcome back to Major League Baseball, sort of.”
toomanyblacksinbaseball
It’s the day that hope no longer springs eternal. Gaaa.
Pads Fans
He never topped 91 in his final outing. That doesn’t seem low grade to me.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Perhaps he was trying to work through it and not trying to further aggravate the discomfort which we now know is a strain. It’s about building up in ST after all.
nitnontu
I think this is the 3rd player to have this injury in the last few days. Cleveland’s Triston McKenzie’s injury was described as a “strain of the teres major muscle in his throwing shoulder” with an expected shut down of at least 2 weeks, and as long as two months!
AM21
Best pitching rotation in baseball.*
*over the age of 36
Mets gonna Met.
RetroBeers
So much dumb conversation regarding Verlander and Scherzer this off-season. Yes, they’ve been relatively “durable” thus far throughout their careers. That is meaningless now. All that means for 2023 is more wear and tear and mileage on the clock as they go into their 38 and. 40 year old seasons. The music has to stop sometime.
jvent
Maybe sign Harvey, Archer or Keuchel on a minor league deal
avenger65
Keuchel, definitely. He’s only one dfa away from setting the major league record.
bronxmac77
Keuchel should sign a one-day Astros contract, so he can get dfa’d by his original club.
Gwynning
Is Dylan Bundy warm yet? Tbh, I would have liked that AAA depth signing for my Pads.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
They would rather resurrect Ted.
bobg529
When does football season start?
kellin
who cares.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
100 upvotes here
kellin
Glad to see Im not the only baseball fan who thinks football is dumb.
Benjamin101677
The way baseball is set up now with the 3 wildcard teams it is more about just get in than have to win a division. Scherzer and Verlander are both old I was thinking to myself this week that the Mets need to plan on skipping both of these starters several times during the year to keep them fresh.
I will agree with other comments that Cohen spent a lot of money this season but didn’t necessary make the team a lot better. Basically the Mets swapped Degrom for Verlander and a got a different catcher.
It’s a long season for sure but on paper the Mets aren’t a powerhouse team that has a fear factor depth roster like maybe Atlanta has
VonPurpleHayes
That’s not totally true. We’ve seen one season of this new format. The NL WC team saw success. The AL WC teams got bounced quickly. I actually think the new format, while adding an extra team, ensures that WC teams have a harder path. Time will tell, but one season is not enough to make any claim one way or the other.
bobg529
So when does football season start?
bronxmac77
For the Jets? Never.
Go Big Blue!
ChuckyNJ
“Mr. Retro Freak” Mike Lupica and “Mr. Dumb Sports Fan” Mike Vaccaro say hi.
(Columnists on barely-breathing NYC tabloids).
Latino Heat
The New Jersey giants are going to finish third in that division yet again
bronxmac77
Still better than the Jesters.
Latino Heat
Who? Not better than Philly or Dallas. Maybe on par with the Washington football team
bronxmac77
Philly, probably. Dallas will implode.
justinkm19
Karma for all of the deGrom negativity.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Yes!!!
LFGMets (Metsin7)
I already predicted this once the Mets signed him. 95% of the people on this site have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the Mets. Since day 1 I’ve talked about how bad the Eppler signing was, the Verlander signing was a complete waste of money for a 40 year old pitcher who missed about 1 and a half seasons to injury prior to last year, Vogelbach is a waste of a roster spot, the trade deadline was awful, JD Davis for Ruf was beyond stupid, and I will be right about this horrid bullpen thats easily the worst staff in the National League. Mets will be lucky to get 85 wins, meanwhile they spent 400 million dollars this offseason, what a freakin joke
bronxmac77
Vogelfat should take up two roster spots.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@bronxmac77 how does someone that can’t run, can’t play the field, and can’t hit lefties make an MLB roster? It just doesn’t make any sense. Would rather see the prospect take over DH if you didnt want to spend any money at that position. Clueless front office
mookie1
@LFGMets
Dude, take a chill pill. I guarantee you that the Mets will not have the worst bullpen in the NL and that they will win at least 86 games. They will likely have an above average bullpen and win about 95 games. They could win the World Series this year and you wouldn’t even enjoy it, because you’re consumed by the negative.
LFGMets (Metsin7)
@Mookie1 its been around 4 months since you said the Mets would win 95 games and have a great bullpen, care to admit you were wrong?
mookie1
@LFGMets
The season isn’t over, and I only guaranteed that they would win at least 86 games and they wouldn’t have the worst bullpen in the league. Ya gotta believe, let’s go Mets!
bronxmac77
Will he be ready for Old Timers Day?
bronxmac77
“Heh heh heh heh…”
F. Montas, Bronx NY
bronxmac77
“There are poor teams.
There are rich teams.
Then there’s 50 feet of crap.
Then there’s us!”
– Billy Beancounter Eppier
bravesnation nc
Terrible! Our guy left with a Angry Hammy earlier today too. Hope both pitchers will be ok. Braves win 7-2.
ChuckyNJ
Not 2 hours before first pitch of the new season and we have a legendary LOLmets moment.
In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani
Lol Texas is a pretty common sentiment here, too. Look at some of the comments on Texas news that has nothing at all to do with deGrom (Jake McCarthy signing, Evoldi, Heaney, Grossman, Otto injury, Odorizzi injury, etc.). I do wonder what team is primarily responsible for those comments.
bronxmac77
Texas’ best signing was Bruce Bochy. I saw him perform miracles in SD. When he moved to SF and finally had a front office that knew a thing or two, he built his HOF resume. IF anyone can get Texas over the hump, Boch is the guy.
BaseballisLife
Heard 2-3 months rehab time for this kind of injury to pitchers. So All Star break? That is one heck of an expensive strain.
Dumpster Divin Theo
That is one heck of an expensive booty call. Maybe he hurt his whittle pinky in the grand canyon.
CardsFan57
Hopefully not serious. Is it me or are top pitchers being injured at a higher than normal rate right now?
bronxmac77
It’s hard to tell of it’s you. Are you injured at a higher rate than normal?
Latino Heat
Glad the Astros didn’t give him that ridiculous contract at his age
MarlinsFanBase
More missed WAR.
CravenMoorehead
Obviously he injured it by carrying his wallet around
BaseballisLife
He hasn’t gotten paid yet this season.
CravenMoorehead
Oh I forgot he only made more than $20 million a season since 2012. My mistake!
angt222
Mets just optioned Megill to AAA, does the option count against them, since now they need to recall him to replace JV?
bronxmac77
The Yanks won. So I’m all adither.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
How was this so predictable? The Mets never learn.
They lost the division last year by one game. One game a starter like Scherzer or Verlander is injured and misses time.
Meanwhile, their rookies step up but they still choose to invest and overpay in better but more fragile free agents.
nottinghamforest13
What if the rookie gets hurt?
bronxmac77
Why are you so Bloom and Gloom?
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
@bronxmac77 not sure what you mean by that
bronxmac77
Me neither…
MarlinsFanBase
@bronxmac77
FYI….the term is “gloom and doom” or “doom and gloom”.
MarlinsFanBase
or “doom and gloom”.
Cohen's _Wallet
Geesh, LOL
Ignorant Son-of-a-b
I would think Cohen’s wallet would be swearing a bit more than that.
Cohen's _Wallet
No need, to panick in April is the biggest waste of time. Fun to see all the comments, amusement.
Steve(shs22)
Time to call up Al Bundy !!
Yankeesforever
how severe is it, will he be back in time to participate in the Mets old timers ceremony?
Giant Willy
Lolololol
Dumpster Divin Theo
Overpay
cardsfanboy
I’m a doctor. This is serious
Dumpster Divin Theo
What. Doctor Pepper? Well I’m Orange Crush. This is all fizz.
VirginiaGiant
I’m serious, you’re damn sure NOT a doctor
brodie-bruce
but i am a doctor…. dr. mantis toboggan
Dumpster Divin Theo
Shirley, you can’t be serious?
brodie-bruce
i am…. and don’t call me shirley
bronxmac77
“Doctor, could you give us your impression of Ted Stryker?”
“I’m a doctor. I don’t do impressions.”
JayRyder
That’s it Seasons over.
DUDDUS
So poetic that deGrom is healthy right now too. But oh wait…hE hAd A bAd sTaRt, right Mets?
VirginiaGiant
Well Mets, 100 year old baseball players DO get injured!
VonPurpleHayes
deGrom got run support.
Rishi
How horribly written to not even mention what part of the body teres major is, as if it is common knowledge
StPeteStingRays
Google.com
Rishi
Or just say he hurt his shoulder. Is it hard to add one word? He wrote an entire article
cleonswoboda
basically it connects the shoulder blade to the humerus,and I’m not being humorous,I haven’t a funny bone in my body.
brucenewton
77-85
johnnyc13
1-0
nottinghamforest13
He’s pretending to be injured so that he can more closely monitor his wife to ensure she’s not cheating on him with Justin Bieber.
StPeteStingRays
…and Pete Davidson.
oscar gamble
Verlander is way more reliable than deGrom ………
bronxmac77
When does the football season start? When I SAY it starts!
Now… turn the damn lights out!
– A. Rodgers, AKA AR12
bronxmac77
I strained my Ursa Major. Hurt so bad I saw stars.
leftcoaster
Mets are like the guy that buys a 2010 Range Rover to commute to work instead of a 2023 Honda Accord. The old Range Rover looks cool when it’s out of the shop at least.
Dtownwarrior78
For those Mets fans who are already whining about JV being hurt and an injury liability, quit crying! Dude is a dog, and when he comes back in a few weeks you’ll be loving what he brings on the mound. I watched for 11 years him take the bump every 5th day and even at 40 he’ll give you 20-25 quality starts this year.
bronxmac77
No he won’t.
Dtownwarrior78
Your right Bronx, you should know all about IL stints being a fan of the Stanks. How many pitchers you got on the IL already this year? Severino, Trevino, Rodon, and atleast 3 more. I’ll take your expertise here! Lol
RetroBeers
Nope. He’s dead, Jim.
Pads Fans
As of today, the Mets will pay Verlander and Scherzer $10 million more than the Pirates opening day 26-man roster will be paid for the season. $30 million more than the A’s opening day roster.
bronxmac77
Yeah, but the Pads used to be like that, buddy. Quality costs. Running a MLB club like a swap meet is cheaper.
phenomenalajs
Can you make an IL stint retroactive to two days before the season started? I see why you’d want to do it, so your pitcher only loses two starts instead of 3, but I didn’t think you could.
Bill M
You can
Redwood13
Well Astros paid what 64 million over 2 years and he pitched 6 innings then missed the 2 years with Tommy John surgery let’s see what happens with the Mets over 2 years. Astros used the money saved from not signing Verlander to sign Javier for the next 6 years Verlander will be in the hall of fame by the time that contract is up
bronxmac77
The Astros are smart.
The Mets are… From Queens NY.