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Guardians Place Triston McKenzie On IL With Elbow Sprain

By Nick Deeds | June 17, 2023 at 8:44pm CDT

8:44pm: As noted by Paul Hoynes of Cleveland.com, manager Terry Francona told reporters that an MRI revealed that McKenzie was suffering from inflammation in his right elbow, with Francona noting that the inflammation “means the UCL is involved.” It’s obviously less than ideal news for McKenzie, as UCL issues can often require Tommy John surgery, though it’s certainly possible that this issue won’t rise to that level. Per Francona, McKenzie will head back to Cleveland to be examined by team staff before the club determines next steps.

6:30pm: The Guardians are making a series of roster moves ahead of tonight’s game against the Diamondbacks, as noted by Zack Meisel of The Athletic. The club is placing right-hander Triston McKenzie on the injured list with a right elbow sprain, designating right-hander Touki Toussaint for assignment, selecting the contract of left-hander Daniel Norris, and recalling left-hander Tim Herrin from Triple-A. Meisel also notes that the club is recalling catcher Bo Naylor, as previously expected.

McKenzie, who was scratched from yesterday’s start with elbow discomfort, now heads to the IL with a sprain in his right elbow. While further details have not yet been made available, it’s certainly an ominous diagnosis for the 25-year-old hurler, particularly after missing the first two months of the season with a teres major strain. McKenzie made just two starts before returning to the IL, striking out ten over five scoreless innings against the Twins before getting lit up for five runs in five innings against the Astros at home last week.

Of course, McKenzie was a key factor in Cleveland’s success last season as he threw 191 1/3 innings with a 2.96 ERA and 3.59 FIP. McKenzie posted an excellent 25.6% strikeout rate against a walk rate of just 5.9% as he helped to lead the Guardians to a surprising AL Central crown before the club fell to the Yankees in the ALDS. The club has struggled to replicate its 2022 campaign this year, with a record of just 32-37 that leaves them three games back of the Twins in a weak AL Central division.

Some of those struggles can be attributed to the uncertainty facing the club’s starting rotation, as only Shane Bieber has managed to stay healthy and effective as a starter throughout the entire season to this point, though youngsters Logan Allen and Tanner Bibee have done well following in-season promotions. Unfortunately, that uncertainty appears poised to continue with McKenzie headed back to the injured list with what could be another lengthy absence, though his timetable for return will remain uncertain until the club provides additional clarity on the situation.

Joining the club’s pitching staff as McKenzie exits is a pair of left-handers. Herrin, a 26-year-old who made his MLB debut for the Guardians earlier this season, struggled to a 6.39 ERA and 4.54 FIP in ten major league appearances but has posted more palatable numbers at the Triple-A level with a 3.93 ERA in 18 1/3 innings of work. Norris, meanwhile, signed with the Guardians on a minor league deal back in March. He’s struggled to a 6.93 ERA in 14 appearances (nine starts) at the Triple-A level this season, though the veteran has pitched in parts of nine major league seasons and has been roughly league average by measure of ERA+, with figure of 99 in 569 2/3 career innings of work.

Making room for Norris on the active roster is Toussaint, who departs the Guardians after making a spot start last night in McKenzie’s stead. The 27-year-old former first round pick allowed two runs on three hits and five walks over 3 2/3 innings of work while striking out two against the Diamondbacks yesterday. The Guardians now figure to either attempt to swing a trade involving the right-hander or attempt to pass him through waivers. If successful in doing so, Cleveland could outright Toussaint to Triple-A, where he would continue to serve as pitching depth for the club going forward.

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  1. MZ311

    2 years ago

    I’m assuming Gavin Williams gets the call next time that spot comes up.

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    • solaris602

      2 years ago

      I would have to think so. It’s like they’ve been holding him back as some type of secret weapon. He has nothing left to prove in the minors. Calling up Daniel Norris? Eh, we’ll see how that goes, but I don’t think any of us really expect his stay to last more than a day or two just like Toussaint

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      • King of Cards

        2 years ago

        Secret weapon lol. They were holding him back for service time reasons

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        • CKinSTL

          2 years ago

          @Cards Williams is only in his second pro season and he is just getting his first year of AAA. Perhaps a bit early for the service time manipulation chatter.

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      • Curly Was The Smart Stooge

        2 years ago

        Someone please come up with a list that ISN’T on the IL.
        This is hurting BB, when you can’t field the best team, who the hell wants to watch you?
        Baseball needs to address this, big time…

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        • Samuel

          2 years ago

          Curly Was The Smart Stooge;

          B I N G O

          The way modern baseball is played and coached is absurd. The fans seem to buy into screwball stats. But watching a lot of games I can state this:

          There are very few quality teams in MLB today. Whereas almost all teams have had shortcomings over the years, it’s chronic today. This can be attributed directly to injuries. It’s not the best teams players going against the other best teams players anymore. Pennant races are being decided by which teams stay healthy and which FO’s can bring up stopgap players to replace those out with injuries.

          Despite the selling of teams and their players by the announcers, the level of play is quite poor league-wide. I’m not sure I can name 3 quality teams that are playing today. Obviously the AL Central and the NL Central are awful divisions. But short of the AL East, the remaining divisions have 2 or 3 teams in them that out-and-out stink.

          Some of this has to do with free agency and player movement, but most has to do with teams playing each game like the 7th game of the World Series. That can work when players have 4-5 months of the off-season to recover. But just about every team is losing their better players for periods of time. In fact, I long ago stopped trying to keep track of who’s on the IL – for how many days – and just tune in to watch games where they tell me which players aren’t active.

          For years now MLB has turned into the FO’s playing Rotisserie League for real – with numerous transactions multiple times a week. Teams have little identities anymore. Most MLB teams roster 13 pitchers but go though over 30 during each season. They roster 13 position players but go though a minimum of 22-24. It’s impossible for fans to keep up, and not fair that they can’t see the best go up against the best most of the season.

          MLB is selling the sizzle and not the steak. The fanbase understands the game less and less each year as knowledgeable fans pull out. At some point it’ll come home to roost.

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        • In nurse follars

          2 years ago

          I’m not sure i agree with this. I blame expansion for diluting the quality of play, especially pitching. Free agency and high salaries keep players with declining skills from leaving the game and with so many teams, not to forget expanded rosters, lots of jobs for mediocre or worse players. There are always bad teams, St. Louis Browns anyone, but the lack of concentrated talent is why teams are so mediocre.

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        • thecoffinnail

          2 years ago

          The answer can be easily found across the Pacific in Japan. How they handle their pitchers is obviously the correct way. They routinely go deep into games and have no trouble approaching 200 innings a season. Also I can remember in my youth pitchers would sometimes approach 300 innings per season and having several 20 game winners seemed to happen every year. MLBs pitching philosophy is obviously flawed and needs to change. Tommy John is not a pleasant procedure..

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        • Samuel

          2 years ago

          thecoffinnail;

          Nolan Ryan always believed that the more innings a pitcher threw the stronger he’d be to continue throwing them. That’s done by pacing themselves and going all in on a pitch at select times…not every single pitch.

          Before free agency FO’s were far more careful with their pitchers. They owned their rights until they didn’t want to, so they were careful to protect their health as they wanted those pitchers to produce for them as long as possible (or use them in trades). The unnatural things that pitchers do today to their arms, shoulders, forearms, elbows, and wrists to get more and more movement on the ball would never have been tolerated (anymore than OF’s routinely diving for balls*) because as you noted, they wanted their starters to go 200-300 innings a year. Jacob deGrom is the poster child for the modern pitcher – doing unbelievable things to have a number of historic years, but spending years at a time on the IL while being paid a top-tier salary due to the unnatural things he’s doing to parts of his body to get movement on the ball throwing 95-plus MPH.
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          * A week or so ago Aaron Judge ran through a wall at Dodger Stadium to catch a fly ball and preserve a team win. That sounds great. But the problem is that the Yankees are based on pitching. Judge is the big bat in their line-up that makes the difference between winning and losing games. Since that injury the Yankees are 4-8, and who knows when Judge will be back. Years ago an OF would have played the ball off the wall.

          Both Tatis, Jr. and Acuna, Jr. had to learn the hard way that going all out all the time causes injuries that took them years to totally recover from. Didn’t work for them or their teams.

          Baseball is a marathon, not a sprint. Players need to be able to pick their spots when going all out.

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        • Samuel

          2 years ago

          And may I add…..

          They outlawed the extreme shifts, because that was supposed to increase BA’s. It hasn’t. Star players are still hitting in the .220’s and .230’s. I understand OBP and OPS, but fans – including me – want to see hits.

          Who would have thought at Dave Kingman would be the model for the modern day hitter?

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      • For Love of the Game

        2 years ago

        Norris is a disaster in AAA. ERA over 6, WHIP approaching 2.00, more than 2 HR/9. Yikes! Get a little out of him and then DFA him, cool beard and van and all!

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    • Michael Chaney

      2 years ago

      I’d think so too. They could easily line him up to take that rotation spot if that’s what they choose. I’d imagine Norris will be up for a few days to give them an extra bullpen arm in the meantime.

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    • CKinSTL

      2 years ago

      I think you’re probably right. The biggest issue I see is that Williams, Bibee and Allen will all be on strict innings limits this year. Things will get really difficult late in the season when you have 3 guys on your 40-mam roster shut down.. I’m just not sure there is a way around it at this point.

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  2. Ham Fighter

    2 years ago

    Eat some food while on the DL you skinny freak

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    • King of Cards

      2 years ago

      That’s an odd comment but looking it up he’s listed at 6 5 165. That is incredibly skinny. I am 6 3 270 and not fat just kind of big. Thats really really skinny.

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      • DCartrow

        2 years ago

        He DOES need to overcome that protein allergy.

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      • CheesyDiarrhea

        2 years ago

        Your fat if you are 270. Hate to brake it to you.

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  3. King of Cards

    2 years ago

    Triston McKenzie for Tommy Edman who says no?

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    • User 3014224641

      2 years ago

      Cleveland

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    • In nurse follars

      2 years ago

      Stunning lack of understanding of the Cleveland model. Please. Pitching is king. It is the only part of the game that gives it a chance to win. It is not trading any pitcher who can keep it competitive. until that pitcher either burns out or becomes too expensive. Bieber is at that point. McKenzie is not. Enough with this silliness. These pitchers are untouchable.

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  4. King of Cards

    2 years ago

    Edman can play short, center and 2b. That doesn’t interest you? Rosario isn’t doing much.

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    • Samuel

      2 years ago

      A number of Cleveland’s top prospects – most of whom are up – are middle infielders. They also have 3 OF’s that can play CF.

      They’re a small market team that needs players they can control. Why would they send a young starting pitcher – their #2 – for a guy that they may well have multiple players that are both cheaper and better than him?

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    • CKinSTL

      2 years ago

      Edman is a fine player but Cleveland needs a premium bat, preferably a righty with power. I think most teams would be interested in a guy like Edman but he wouldn’t be a pressing need for Cleveland.

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      • norcalguardiansfan

        2 years ago

        Cardinals fans seem to think they will get a quality arm for Edman. I’ve seen them pushing him for Bieber, now McKenzie. I think they will be disappointed.

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  5. Cleon Jones

    2 years ago

    Thats a shame. Solid pitcher, good guy, some really bad luck with his arm.

    Anybody know stats on what percentage of pitchers on 26 man rosters go down with arm or shoulder injuries annually?

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    • CKinSTL

      2 years ago

      He is fun to watch on the mound and just seems like a great young man. He always gets praise for his fan interaction.

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  6. Kruk's Beer League

    2 years ago

    Thompson shouldn’t have pulled Wheeler in game 6.

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  7. SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs

    2 years ago

    I like watching him pitch I hope he’s ok

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  8. Clevelandian

    2 years ago

    At the game last night Dr. Sticks was looking really relaxed and seemed to be having fun. Hopefully it isn’t serious.

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