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Latest On Justin Verlander

By Anthony Franco | July 29, 2023 at 3:02pm CDT

Few potential trade candidates are as notable as Justin Verlander. There are myriad complications that could stand in the way of a deal, but there’s been speculation over the past couple days about the chance of Verlander being on the move.

Mark Feinsand of MLB.com suggested Thursday night there was some industry sentiment the Mets would look to move him. Feinsand listed the Astros and Rangers as potential fits. Will Sammon and Tim Britton of the Athletic also indicated that the two Texas-based franchises had expressed some interest, writing that the Mets at least appear willing to genuinely consider offers on Verlander and Max Scherzer.

Still, it remains to be seen how aggressively other teams would pursue either player. Sammon and Britton characterize Texas’ interest in Verlander mostly as due diligence as they evaluate all their rotation possibilities. Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News wrote yesterday that Texas would be open to surpassing the competitive balance tax threshold in a Verlander trade. However, he similarly indicated the Rangers are checking in on virtually every pitcher on the market, with nothing to suggest Verlander talks have gotten particularly advanced. Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that Texas has also inquired on reliever Brooks Raley and corner outfielder Tommy Pham.

Texas has a luxury tax number around $224MM, as calculated by Roster Resource. They’re $9MM shy of the $233MM base threshold. Verlander is due around $15.4MM through season’s end, so an acquisition would push Texas past that marker unless the Mets paid down a significant chunk of the salary.

New York might be willing to do so. They paid down all of Eduardo Escobar’s deal and are reportedly willing to send cash in other trades, although they didn’t include any money in the David Robertson swap with Miami. There’s a ways to go to get to that point, though. New York would have to weigh the possible return against subtracting a key player who’s under contract for 2024, when the Mets surely envision a return to competitiveness.

That’s even before considering the players’ ability to block any deal. Both Verlander and Scherzer have complete no-trade rights. Understandably, neither has gone on record about whether they’d waive that provision. Verlander said a few days ago the Mets had not approached him about that possibility. Scherzer told the New York beat last night that he’d likely speak with the front office about the franchise’s direction over the next few days. Sherman indicates the Mets would only gauge the pitchers’ willingness to waive the no-trade clauses if they first find a potentially workable trade package.

Texas pursued Verlander as a free agent last winter. He reportedly wasn’t keen on joining the Rangers at the time, although that’s seemingly because he questioned how quickly they’d be competitive. That’s no longer in doubt with the Rangers topping the AL West by two games and motivated deadline buyers.

There’s plenty of familiarity between Verlander and the Astros, of course. Houston has been on the hunt for a starting pitcher for a few weeks. General manager Dana Brown downplayed the rotation need a bit after acquiring reliever Kendall Graveman yesterday, however. Brown indicated that while Houston was still open to adding a starter, the rotation is “not as high a priority as the bullpen was,” in part because of the loftier asking price teams are demanding to relinquish starting pitching (link via Chandler Rome of the Athletic).

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42 Comments

  1. Little Stevie Janowsky

    2 years ago

    Lolmets

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    • Blue Baron

      2 years ago

      LOLJanowsky

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      • DCartrow

        2 years ago

        Fake laugh, Blue Baron.

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    • stymeedone

      2 years ago

      So it seems this article is simply saying nothings changed.

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  2. King of Cards

    2 years ago

    It does seem like Verlander to Texas would make sense. If they get Verlander and he pitches well against their state rival and former team the Astros and helps them win the division and more that would be a bold power move. Then next year you got Verlander plus eventually DeGrom that could be scary.

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    • stymeedone

      2 years ago

      The price tag definitely would be.

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      • King of Cards

        2 years ago

        That hasn’t scared off the Rangers recently. This is a team that wants to win and is willing to do what it takes to win.

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        • Joe says...

          2 years ago

          I remember those days Cards.

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        • King of Cards

          2 years ago

          There is always a price to pay for those days. Yankees are paying it now. The good part is the Yankees will always spend.

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    • Blue Baron

      2 years ago

      Looks like Scherzer instead.

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  3. norcalblue

    2 years ago

    Giants?

    Reply
  4. 10centBeerNight

    2 years ago

    They are probably both in a NYM uni Tuesday night. Pham, Cahna, Carrasco probably not. Ottavino- someone needs to close games. Raley has been solid and has a year of control left correct? That team has has issues with a reliable LH reliever over a few seasons so they should keep him

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    • In Seager/Hader We Trust > the 70 MM DH Ohtani

      2 years ago

      It seems you may be wrong.

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      Reply
  5. Samuel

    2 years ago

    Next time there’s a heading:

    “Latest On Justin Verlander”

    either change it to:

    “Latest On Justin Verlander According to the Media”

    Because this is the 2nd or 3rd story that is pure speculation on what might happen, with no information as to who has been talking to the Mets about Verlander and whether or not he’d be open to changing teams (as per his contract).

    How about:

    “Latest On Mookie Betts”
    or
    “Latest On Ronald Acuna Jr.”
    or
    “Latest On Gerrit Cole”

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    • trendysayings

      2 years ago

      mlb trade RUMORS

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      • whyhayzee

        2 years ago

        Mad Libs trade rumors.

        Few potential _____ candidates are as _______ as ________ ___________. There are ________ __________ that could _______ in the way of a _____. but there’s been ________ over the past couple ______ about the ________ of ________ being on the ______.

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    • mlb fan

      2 years ago

      That’s what America’s corporate MSM is my friend; speculation, innuendo, salacious rumors, a couple facts, half truths and lots of unsupported, unsourced opinions. That’s why an awful lot of Americans don’t trust buy into or believe the MSM.

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      • brodie-bruce

        2 years ago

        when it comes to sports lets give msm bit of a break here, and no i’m not here to support msm but maybe some reason behind the action.

        sports is unique because of its nature, it’s one entertainment and two one of the few industries that employment contracts can be traded away like an asset. now add in the time frames you can conduct them transactions and the well being of the team in that given year. with all of that and add in our desire to have information that we seek in an instant creates the mis-information we often see in sports reporting.

        love’ ’em or hate them msm and ssm like mlbtr are going to report on any type of trade regardless of probability, especially when it gets close to deadline time because even the most bizarre rumors have some nugget of truth to them

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        • Samuel

          2 years ago

          brodie-bruce;

          Intellectualize all you want…..

          It used to be that stories had to “have legs”. Reading comments from people that are commenting on other peoples comments that have no basis in fact used to be unacceptable. Even Ben Bradley of the Washington Post refused to publish a story unless Woodword and Bernstein had TWO sources that authenticated ACTIONS taken.

          Critical thinking in this country is dead. Has been for a long time.

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  6. j_butte

    2 years ago

    The Robertson trade gives me hope they’ll deal Verlander in the division to the Braves.

    1
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  7. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    2 years ago

    The Orioles have what it takes, but will they do it

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    • Longtimecoming

      2 years ago

      I think the O’s are in the advantageous spot of waiting to see who might become available from the undecided teams ala Cubs, Padres etc. They could use a good SP – not just an innings eater – but maybe don’t have to have one.

      They have plenty of capital to make any trade that might arise – Ohtani, Snell, Lugo, Hader – if they choose to do so.

      They have no reason to be jumping on 43.3 mil x 2 and really, aren’t likely to commit that kind of money.

      With their surplus of prospects, just trade for a rental – now wait for the best rental to come to them – not Giolito!

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      • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

        2 years ago

        Well, will sew
        As I paraphrased from Indiana Jones The Last Crusade
        The Orioles need to choose wisely

        Reply
  8. blueblood1217

    2 years ago

    Any chance the Dodgers could be in on Verlander?

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    • Neon Cop

      2 years ago

      They’re insecure and desperate, so probably.

      Reply
  9. Mac Attack

    2 years ago

    I say this is 100% BS where the press is looking for a story. These guys are by far the best of the staff and they need to plan for next year. Pham is gone

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  10. joeshmoe11

    2 years ago

    Verlander to the Reds for Cam Collier

    Reply
    • Samuel

      2 years ago

      joeshmoe11;

      Good one!

      Next year Verlander will make more money the the rest of the Res roster combined…..AFTER the Reds trade away a few of their higher salaried players.

      Reply
  11. Frank_TananaDaquri

    2 years ago

    If he or Scherzer go anywhere, Uncle Steve is going to have to eat most of the cost. If that happens, Baltimore or Tampa would be the cheese.

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  12. BabeRuthsPiano

    2 years ago

    The fact that the Yankees are in last place and showing zero sign of coming out of mom’s basement should make it a wonderful Year for MLB.

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  13. VirginiaGiant

    2 years ago

    Looks like the Giants aren’t gonna do anything to address their weaknesses, cheap ass ownership… I do not blame this on Zaidi

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    • BabeRuthsPiano

      2 years ago

      Yup it’s not just the Giants though they are a few clubs that are in it that want even shake a stick at what is available

      Reply
    • Samuel

      2 years ago

      VirginiaGiant;

      This is not free agency time.

      See, a team has to have something to trade that the other team wants – a decent prospect of young player.

      Reply
  14. Bobcastelliniscat

    2 years ago

    There have been reports that the Reds and Mets have been in trade discussions. The Reds definitely have the talent to get a trade done.

    Reply
    • phenomenalajs

      2 years ago

      Alexis Díaz going the other way would be wonderful. Yes, I’m delusional. I’m not sure if adding Mauricio to Pham would get that job done since he’s essentially blocked by Lindor.

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  15. Wheeler Dealer

    2 years ago

    Cubs will make deal to get Verlander you heard it hear first, Jed regrets not getting him in 2017

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  16. ActionDan

    2 years ago

    I’m going to spit ball here and say the Mets are going to trade both Max and JV and use much of the return on a potential trade for Juan Soto of the Padres. They will then offer the moon to a starting pitcher next year.

    Reply
  17. BabeRuthsPiano

    2 years ago

    So far no team has made a trade were I’m like Wow they are legitimate WS contenders now. Let’s see what happens though

    Reply
  18. NMK 2

    2 years ago

    Verlander has actually looked better as of late and doesn’t have a history of choking in the playoffs. With Scherzer gone, I’d be OK keeping JV and retooling for another run. If we get offered the moon for him, I’d consider dealing Verlander. That said, they’d have to be major league-ready pieces.

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    • JackStrawb

      2 years ago

      @NMK 2 Verlander has a long history of choking in the World Series. He’s 1 and 6, with a WS ERA of 5.63.

      Reply
  19. cdouglas24000

    2 years ago

    Even before the ink dried on the paper for the mad Max and Verlander deals, i was laughing my a$$ off. The Mets gave two 40 year old pitchers with insane miles on their arms 43 mill plus for 2 guaranteed seasons each. That’s beyond ludicrous of a deal and Cohen has to be shaking his head now. Mets might as well fire sale everyone thats walking come October. U can’t give any pitcher over 38 that kind of money. The Mets FO must have been on mushrooms when they dealt out those deals

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    • Lemonade24

      2 years ago

      I agree. I rather we kept rebuilding than getting MS and JV. We should have traded deGrom also for prospects.

      Reply

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