Japanese pitching sensation Roki Sasaki has asked the Chiba Lotte Marines to make him available to MLB teams via the posting system this winter, according to Sponichi Annex (Japanese language link from Yahoo Japan). Nippon Professional Baseball teams have until December 15 to post players for possible moves to Major League Baseball in advance of the 2024 season, and this brief timeline alone makes it highly unlikely that the Marines will grant Sasaki’s request.
In the broader picture, it is quite rare for Japanese players to ask to be posted so early in their careers, as the 22-year-old Sasaki has only played three seasons in NPB. As per MLB’s posting rules, players must be at least 25 years and have at least six pro seasons under their belt in order to receive anything more than a minor league contract. Big league clubs could also only pay such players money from their international bonus pools, and with this year’s international signing window yet to open on January 15, teams have long since committed the bulk of their pool money to prospects. Shohei Ohtani faced these restrictions when he came to the majors at age 23, and thus received only a minors deal from the Angels and a $2.3MM signing bonus.
Jorge Castillo and Jack Harris of the Los Angeles Times profiled Sasaki last month, noting that Sasaki’s contract with the Marines “is thought to” have an escape clause that would allow the righty to leave for the majors at any time. Ohtani enacted such a clause in 2017, though Ohtani had played five seasons with the Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters.
The Sponichi article didn’t give any mention about such a contractual opt-out, though the unusual timing of Sasaki’s request perhaps does indicate that he has some leverage to take this rather immediate plunge into the posting system. Castillo/Harris wrote that the Dodgers, Padres, and Giants have all “intensely scouted” Sasaki in Japan, and at one point, the Dodgers thought that Sasaki would be available as early as this offseason.
Sasaki wouldn’t achieve full free agency until he has nine seasons of service time, and in general, NPB teams don’t post players early until they’re a year or two away from that nine-season threshold. For instance, Yoshinobu Yamamoto played seven seasons with the Orix Buffaloes before the Buffaloes agreed to post the star righty this winter, and the 25-year-old Yamamoto now looks poised to command a contract well north of $200MM.
Yamamoto’s combination of youth and skill has all but guaranteed a huge contract, yet even his number could pale in comparison to what Sasaki might receive. Though he would seemingly be limited to a minor league deal at first and would have to wait at least a few seasons into an MLB career to sign an extension without drawing attention from the league office, that might be a risk Sasaki is willing to take given the potential huge payoff down the road. In the interim, he won’t be lacking in compensation, since a jump to the majors would surely boost his endorsement appeal.
Over 283 2/3 career innings with the Marines, Sasaki has a 2.00 ERA, 34.4% strikeout rate, and 5.12% walk rate, and these video-game numbers are only part of Sasaki’s burgeoning legend. His fastball routinely sits in the upper-90s and has topped out at 102.5mph, and his forkball is arguably an even deadlier pitch. Sasaki’s pitched well for Japan’s gold medal-winning team at the 2023 World Baseball Classic, and he has two NPB All-Star appearances on his resume. Most famously, Sasaki came within an inning of back-to-back perfect games — he tossed a perfecto against the Buffaloes in April 2022 that saw him record 13 straight strikeouts amidst an NPB-record 19 K’s in his masterpiece of a start. Incredibly, Sasaki followed that up with eight perfect innings in his next outing before being pulled before the start of the ninth due to pitch count reasons (102 pitches).
The Marines’ desire to preserve Sasaki’s arm and overall health has been a main storyline of his career. He was the first overall pick of the 2019 NPB draft, yet he didn’t make his debut with Chiba until May 2021, as the team wanted to ease his development into pro ball. Sasaki missed about six weeks this season due to an oblique strain, limiting him to 91 innings for the 2023 campaign. As MLB’s Dai Takegami Podziewski noted in his last installment of the NPB Players To Watch feature, durability is basically the last question Sasaki has to really answer about his long-term potential, and the righty’s 6’4″, 203-pound frame would suggest that he is perhaps built to hold up under the larger workloads faced by Major League pitchers.
While it remains to be seen if Sasaki will actually be able to enter the 2023-24 free agent market, it would obviously be a game changer in a winter that already has a lot of high-end starters still on the board. If nothing else, Sasaki’s request might well be setting a stage for a posting next winter, when he could join another loaded pitching class that might include Corbin Burnes, Max Fried, Walker Buehler, Shane Bieber, Tyler Glasnow, Max Scherzer, Justin Verlander, and possibly even Gerrit Cole if the Yankees don’t enact a contract clause preventing Cole from opting out.
fre5hwind
Bummer
PKCasimir
Get a life.
FletcherFan69
I hope he signs with my Braves so I can change my name to FletcherAndSasakiFan69
Ham Fighter
Yankees do whatever it takes to get his guy even if you have to kidnap him
gfan
Tsunami from Japan now.
DodgerBlue23
Surprised the Marines are letting him get so unruly and lippy…
Lefty_Orioles_Fan
Dr Evil could offer the Marines,”One million dollars” !!!!! to entice them
Jackmacduff
He would be the prize of the offseason if he came over due to the limits on his contract. Would he be able to pick his team?
momTurphy
If he’s posted, he’s a dodger. There’s no way this would come out today and make perfect sense for the dodgers and him if that wasn’t his goal.
damascusj
Lol. Either that or play with his longtime idol yu darvish
2183281
The money he would get if he were allowed to be posted would be silly.
mrpadre19
It literally says teams could only sign him using their International Pool money….so no,it would not be “so much money”.
Ma4170
Probably no chance, but that would be incredible considering his talent and age. Can’t imagine the offers he would get.
ArianaGrandSlam
Nothing is more rude than spelling someone’s name wrong. His name is Ryoki. Get it together!
Gwynning
Pretty rich coming from somebody who misspelled their own celebrity username… and by the way- his name is Roki.
Arch10
You’ve been very quiet since the Soto trade… not happy?
pohle
uh oh gwynning, your social media managers arent very happy with your recent output… better up the interactions before you get fired
MikeBSoxFan
Those are “video game numbers”, and who knows if they translate (no-pun intended) into an all star career in MLB. But you can’t argue with almost throwing 2-perfect games in a row. Outside of Johnny Van Dermeer, who through consecutive no-hitters, nobody in MLB has come close to that, and with todays game, I doubt it ever happens again. I wish the kid good luck, and hopefully he’s able to make it to the big show.
stymeedone
If he tries to do that in the Majors, he will get pulled after 5 innings each time.
runningwithnailclippers
I don’t understand what is the point of the player to attempt to post himself if he doesn’t even qualify? Please someone explain it to my lizard brain.
jmaggio76
was hoping for a loop hole… a chance…
Ham Fighter
Maybe he can ‘retire’ like nomo did to get to mlb
@DaOldDerbyBastard
Your name and your lizard brain are both hilarious.
marcfrombrooklyn
I think any player can be posted, only the payout to players under 25 is limited to international pool limits. As such, the fees the team would get are much lower, so the team won’t post him.
Captain K-Midd
Players can only be posted if they are over age 25 in the MLB. If they come over at a younger age, they cannot be posted, and would be considered an international free agent. Teams like the Dodgers are not able to spend more than $4.75 million in signing bonuses for an entire year, so he would be limited to that. Plus, there is no way a team would use their entire bonus pool on one player, you would be missing out on a ton of good, young, cheap prospects. When Ohtani came over, he signed for $2.315 million, which is about half of the total pool and the signing bonus Sasaki could expect. From there, he would be a pre-arbitration player and not be able to reach MLB free agency until after six years of service time. Sasaki only made $608,000 the previous season, which is less than MLB league minimum. So right there it is worth it for him to come over to the majors if he could. The only reason a player wouldn’t come over right away is it is easier to be successful through age 25 in the NPB, which would lead to bigger hype and contract in the MLB. If a player from Japan goes straight to the MLB when they are young, they have to hope they are good enough to put up good numbers right away, or they won’t be signing any long term deals in the future. Ohtani believed in himself and worked super hard to get to where he is. So he was okay with coming over to the US right away. Plus, I am sure it is more comfortable for Japanese players in their formative years to live and play in a place they are comfortable and not foreign. That could have a huge impact on your mental game.
PutPeteinthehall
He sees his country man get 700m in the USA. What more is there to understand?
James Midway
No soup for you!!!
grecoisu
Can he just… defect?
DonCarl97
Unlike Cuba, Japan is a serious country and MLB and NPB have close relations, and as professional it would look very bad for him
desertball
Hypothetically, if he chose to immigrate to the states, it is likely he’d qualify for a resident alien card, allowing him to work.
Would he be subject to the draft OR would he just be a FA?
marcfrombrooklyn
I would guess that, but for the agreement between MLB and the the Japanese leagues, he’d be subject to the draft if he immigrated to the US. It’s why Cuban defectors go to Mexico or the DR, not the US, and get treated like any other international free agent, subject to limits only if they are under 25. There may also be breach of contract liability. I don’t know how US courts treat foreign work contracts, but, if the team could sue, he’d probably be prevented from playing here even if there weren’t an agreement between the Japanese league and MLB. This kind of thing would be similar to how soccer teams and players deal with contacts in different leagues and countries.
DonCarl97
I think the United States at least MLB actually respects Japanese contracts, that is why Yariel Rodríguez was just granted FA status once his team in Japan accepted to release him
IronBallsMcGinty
Anyone know off hand which league is stronger, KBO or NPB?
Camikey
NPB by a wide margin.
stpofsd
I’ve read that the Korean league is comparable to AA and npb is like AAAA
Ham Fighter
Npb is 100 times better than korea
Gwynning
NPB is better… but your bias is showing, Ham.
SweetBabyRayKingsThickThighs
KBO has better cheerleaders and fried chicken so it’s better
IronBallsMcGinty
I figured NPB was better based on how Japan plays in the WBC but i don’t follow those leagues enough to really know.
Thanks
tangerinepony
Maybe in 5 years he can ask for 700M over 10 years like ohtani got from the dodgers
jmaggio76
ridiculous money. seriously…. yes a good player, but way too much money. pitching alone? I bet 5 of those 10 will be pitched. he will do well offensively, till about year 6 or 7, when he becomes mediocre and they want to move his contract because all he can play is DH. just absurd
rememberthecoop
And with the deferrals, they’ll likely be paying Ohtani for decades.
I.M. Insane
Kid has some impressive stats.
acoss13
He just saw the bidding war for Yamamoto and the huge bag Ohtani got, and he wants a piece of that pie.
DanUgglasRing
Farhan better get a lawyer and help this kid come to the Giants with Yamamoto because someone’s gonna need to get Mookie Freddy and Shohei out.
acoss13
If not Yamamoto, Farhan needs to go after Shota Imanoga as well. The KBO outfielder, Lee, he’s gotta be on your radar too.
Ticky33
Oh good Lord please please Tigers do whatever it takes absolutely whatever it takes to sign this guy whenever he is able to Be posted I will never ask for anything else ever Again in my life LOL
Datashark
Yoshinobu Yamamoto is going to LAD with Ohtani….
Ma4170
No shot
Bruin1012
So over 100 million a year for two players?
Ham Fighter
They don’t have enough money left to sign him. I think he’s going to sign with the red Sox
DarkSide830
The concept of a guy with 300+ professional innings is an amateur because he is too young is silly. You should be eligible as a regular international free agent as soon as you play an inning of NPB/KBO/CPBL ball.
muskie73
Roki Sasaki has been on my keeper fantasy roster for years (and was joined this year by Yoshinobu Yamamoto and Yuki Matsui).
Blackouts are racist
Guessing his longterm durability based on his current height and weight is kinda lame.
la verdad
Why even bother posting? We all know the Dodgers will swoop in with their never ending bag of money to get him.
Thank_God_Im_Not_Tim_Dierkes
It’s not a money thing, and big spending clubs would be at a disadvantage because signing a MLB free agent like Ohtani for instance takes at least $500K from the international budget of the signing team (i.e. the Dodgers) for the following int. signing peiod. Because of his age and service tike Roki can’t sign a blank check deal. It’ll be like when Ohtani first signed with the Angels.
Thank_God_Im_Not_Tim_Dierkes
I guarantee that if Roki Sasaki comes available, every team will ditch their obligations to sign him instead, namely the cheap Mariners. What’s even more interesting is that their number one guy for the M’s Dawel Joseph was not highly regarded until after they had agreed on the bonus they would give (normally determined a year or two before), so it might only be $2-3M despite Dawel being a Top 5-8 player internationally. That being said, a team can acquire 60% (I believe! Right?) of their original pool through trade.
So, at $6.5M, Seattle could add in blocks of value up to almost $4M extra or $10.5M total. If the Mariners are only going to pay Dawel something like $3M, They’d still have the ability to stack enough money to pay Sasaki close to $7m as a signing bonus, supposing they push all their other signings until next year or passed on their obligations to them. There is the penalty on future international signings, but going over slot on Sasaki and Joseph, only to lose a chance at the guys from next year, seems like a good overall value.
I hope Sasaki gets posted and we get him in Seattle. He’d add depth to the rotation and give Seattle the ability to trade a starter for more offense!
Astros_fan_in_Aus
Quite possibly the best Japanese pitcher ever.
l9ydodger
COMIN TO AMERICA,
TO MAKE MONEY!!!!