4:50pm: Mozeliak describes Bloom’s role as “more of a part-time role, an advisory role,” per John Denton of MLB.com. Mozeliak added that Bloom isn’t relocating to St. Louis but will be present at Spring Training and join the team for home and road games.
2:45pm: The Cardinals announced that they have hired Chaim Bloom as an advisor to president of baseball operations John Mozeliak. Katie Woo of The Athletic reported the hiring prior to the official club announcement.
Bloom, 40, was the chief baseball officer of the Red Sox until he was fired in September. He was connected to the Cardinals in November and also received some interest from the Marlins to run their front office, but he will wind up with the Cards. Though he will be working with Mozeliak, it’s unclear exactly how involved he will be with the day-to-day operations of the club. Chris Cotillo of MassLive relays that it’s believed Bloom prefers a remote role that will allow him to stay in Boston.
Bloom’s tenure running the Red Sox led to mixed results. It seems as though he was given lesser budgets than the previous front offices in Boston, as Mookie Betts and David Price were traded to the Dodgers in early 2020, a few months after Bloom was hired towards the end of 2019. Per the data at Cot’s Baseball Contracts, the Sox had payrolls above $230MM in 2018 and 2019 but have averaged under $190MM in the past three years.
The club finished last in the American League East in three of the last four seasons, with a surprise trip to the postseason in 2021 sandwiched in between. The farm system made some strides while Bloom was there, though the extent of its strength is subjective, like most matters involving prospects. Baseball America recently ranked Boston’s farm fifth in the league and FanGraphs second, but MLB Pipeline had them down at #16.
On the big league side, there were mixed results. Modest signings of Chris Martin, Kenley Jansen, Adam Duvall, Michael Wacha and Justin Turner generally worked out well, but the big swings didn’t really land. The Sox seemed far more bullish on players like Trevor Story and Masataka Yoshida relative to the rest of the industry and those deals haven’t worked out well so far. The club also made the strange decision to trade Christian Vázquez and Jake Diekman at the 2022 trade deadline but hold onto Xander Bogaerts, Nathan Eovaldi, J.D. Martinez and others, ultimately finishing the year in last place but with a competitive balance tax figure that was just barely over the lowest threshold. By finishing just over the line, their draft pick compensation was reduced when Bogaerts and Eovaldi rejected qualifying offers and signed elsewhere.
All of that may be moot, depending on the specifics of Bloom’s role. Prior to joining the Red Sox, he spent over a decade working with the Rays. That club developed a strong reputation for player development while Bloom was there, jumping to the forefront of analytics in order to compete with clubs that feature much larger budgets. Whether that is part of his role with the Cardinals or not, he brings a couple of decades of baseball experience to the club, having served in various roles around the sport. In addition to his time with the Red Sox and Rays, he also worked for the league, for the Padres and spent many years writing for Baseball Prospectus.
When front office executives find themselves between jobs, it’s not uncommon to see them land an advisory gig such as this as a sort of placeholder. Bloom can do a bit of work and collect a paycheck in the meantime. If an opportunity arises to rejoin a club as a general manager or president of baseball operations, his gig with the Cardinals shouldn’t leave him so committed that he can’t pursue it.
FanOfTheUmpires
Arguably the most underrated city in all of sports.
RunDMC
Who cares about football or basketball? I’d take that argument after 4 pints.
Big whiffa
This bud is for u lol
Sean McCorick
Interesting.. Molina gets hired as a “special assistant” to ‘Mo and now this guy is going to be an advisor..
My guess is that the Cardinals are putting the pieces together to clean house if the Cardinals start off as bad as they were last year.
Molina will be promoted to manager and Bloom will take over Mozeliak’s job.
Lanidrac
Hey, we care about football. It was that snake Kroenke who stole our NFL team, and now we easily draw the most fans in the XFL.
As for basketball, what do you do with that big orange sphere again?
Bart Harley Jarvis
To be fair, almost every city has had their NBA team hijacked by another city.
craigin805
Take him back. signed, los angeles
Bart Harley Jarvis
@FOTU,
I believe you’ve misspelled the word barbecue. There’s definitely no s, p, o, or t in barbecue.
FanOfTheUmpires
Verducci, Rosenthal, Passan, Plaschke, Rome, etc.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Ribs, Brisket, Burnt Ends, Goat, etc.
stuffnya
Gooey butter cake
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
And the most boring. They have St. Louis baby back ribs and Fudge from Uranus Missouri. That’s about it. I would argue that Kansas City BBQ ribs are better.
Bart Harley Jarvis
I’ll most definitely take you at your word. I’m hardly in any position to question you about Uranus.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
There’s literally a town called Uranus,Missouri. A stop off place where you can get Fudge. I’ve seem a few posts about the on going joke about the town of 25 people.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Seen*
Jesse Chavez enthusiast
@logjammer
It’s funny you said that, for Christmas my brother literally got me fudge from Uranus. In the inside of the box someone wrote “fudge lovingly packed by Tyler.” Lol
FanOfTheUmpires
Best weather in the country, best scenery in the country, nicest people in the country, best history in the country, most fun city in the country, most family friendly city in the country, best music scene in the country, best public transportation in the country, best sports scene in the country, most attractive people in the country, best sense of humor in the country, etc. etc. etc.
FanOfTheUmpires
Best schools in the country, best Christian scene in the country, best architecture in the country, etc. etc. etc.
Bart Harley Jarvis
And to borrow from Mike Tyson, most ‘braggabocious’ people in the country.
FanOfTheUmpires
Most humble people in the country, best economics in the country, etc.
nonchalanto
Yeah you sound humble.
FanOfTheUmpires
POSnanski, Kahrl, Jaffe, etc.
Bart Harley Jarvis
@FOTU,
I still like my lineup better.
FanOfTheUmpires
Best sports stadiums in the country, best air quality in the country, best UV quality in the country, etc. etc. etc.
Bart Harley Jarvis
You actually cracked me up with, “best Christian scene in the country”.
I once had a woman from Missouri ask me on a flight to Philadelphia, “Are there any Christians in Philadelphia?” When I told her I was Catholic and I’m from Philadelphia, her expression said, ‘Yeah, I’m talking about Christians and why are you changing the subject’. It was a hilarious encounter.
Steinbrenner2728
having your name set to “FanOfTheUmpires” is itself a bannable offense.
Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee
And a bunch of wins deferred….
Lanidrac
@FanOfTheUmpires Best weather in the country? Maybe, as long as you don’t count July, August, or September
Best public transportation?! This must be a joke, just like the public transport options in St. Louis. All we have are a few bus and light rail lines that don’t even cover a quarter of the metro area!
Tomdocmac
And you had Stan Musial: Poor man’s Ted Williams.
Jose Tattoo-vay
@Tomdoc Those two aren’t that far apart. Stan has more rings, MVPs, and even batting titles.
Bart Harley Jarvis
Stan Musial and Ken Griffey, Jr. (and Ken Griffey, Sr.) were born in Donora, Pennsylvania. That’s a fair amount of Hall of Famers per capita.
TrumboRedux
What about Eggs though? Are their eggs any good?
dasit
worst climate i’ve ever experienced
freezing winters
malarial summers
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Winters are far more brutal in Minnesota. I’ve never actually lived there but my grandparents live there and I have 4 uncles that are all there too. I’ve gone up there from Chicago for Christmas and a few Thanksgivings as well.
Nov-March can be very depressing.
Hamburger Sausageface III
You take that tf back
dasit
deep-fried ravioli is a legit contribution but agree about the bbq
Cincyfan85
I’ve seen a video of fudge from Uranus on the internet. It looked tempting and tasty.
Lanidrac
…and pork steak, toasted ravioli, gooey butter cake, cracker crust pizza, and the birthplace of the ice cream cone.
17dizzy
The Cardinals definitely needed someone along side John Mozeliak who actually knows baseball!!! Hopefully Mozeliak just fades away with the next sun set !!!!!!!
VonPurpleHayes
Not even in the top 15. Football and basketball exist.
TrumboRedux
What’s the salary on an “advisory role” these days? Same as a GM or POBO?
FanOfTheUmpires
Probably taking over now that Albert’s personal services contract is over.
davidk1979
He’s not getting paid as much as their top execs.
Troy Percival's iPad
He should be forced to make minimum wage until one of the pitchers he acquires has a 110 ERA+ over 150 innings
Yankee Clipper
Trumbo, that’s a great question and I was thinking about that while reading the article. Teams that spend lower amounts on payroll seem to have an abundance of esoteric positions (across the league) that get paid, but have really undefined roles. I wonder if those positions pay such a low amount (relative to other ML positions, such as POBO) that’s it’s simply a non-thought financially. Otherwise, it seems teams would benefit more from increasing payroll.
jhend12
This has “Mozeliak has one foot out the door” written all over it.
jonsteele
I’ve only heard hints of it on radio shows bu D Goold and Bernie. but it sounds like this is MO’s last contract for sure and he almost didn’t come back after 2022. Of course nobody has come out and said anything concrete and they won’t but I think you’re right I think Chaim Bloom is the heir apparent to take over when MO’s contract expires after 2025.
THEY LIVE!!!
How about Moz resigns for medical reasons and takes Marmol with him to be his caregiver?
FletcherFan69
How could Chaim do this
RobM
Smart hire.
BabeRuthsPiano
Terrible decision trust me don’t ever give this guy a promotion
Cardsfan21
Yeah we should trust you, and not look at the incredible success he had with the Tampa Bay Rays…
joe mcgrath
He had practically zero authotity in Tampa. He was about the 5th guy in charge. A fact proven out by his disasterous stint in Boston. You better hope he never becomes “the guy”
stan lee the manly
Red Sox farm system ranking over Bloom’s tenure per Fangraphs:
2020: 29
2021: 18
2022: 9
2023: 5
Poolhalljunkies
3 last place finishes in 4 years and dealing proven players at the deadline for prospects goes a long way to help those farm ranks improve…
stan lee the manly
Hard to criticize a GM for having a long term plan to improve from the ground up that was clearly working and then getting canned before being able to see the fruits of his labor. When they win in the next couple of years, it will be because of Bloom.
I.M. Insane
“Incredible success”? How many rings does he have?
[long pause]
No further questions, your honor.
BabeRuthsPiano
Worst Gm the Red Sox ever had so yeh I would trust me since obviously you know Zilch about him
JoeBrady
1-Last place finishes are not a guarantee of a good draft pick. Our average #1 pick since Bloom too over was roughly #15.
2-And we don’t generally trade off proven players at the deadline. We had the Workman deal, but he was hardly proven. And the Vazquez deal, and he was kind of marginal as far as being proven.
soxfan4381
Those projections are overrated and it depends on who is ranking them. We have all position players and no pitching. Pitching is what matters.
Cardsfan21
He was given a budget of like $50 a year and consistently fielded a competitive team in a division that also includes those ever competitive Yankees. Made changes to the game widely adapted by others still to this date.
Dont get me wrong, he has plenty of losses too but he’s not exactly the bum some are portraying him to be.
DirtyWater04
Stan Lee let us also not forget where they were in the standings under Bloom’s tenure:
2020: last
2021: fluke wild card run
2022: last
2023: last
DirtyWater04
What was clearly working? Finishing 5th every year?
He hasn’t had a single prospect acquired via draft or trade do anything remotely impactful in the majors. He traded the best player produced by this farm system in a generation for a backup catcher and an outfielder barely above replacement level who now plays for the Yankees, let our best shortstop since Nomar walk because they wouldn’t negotiate fairly and seriously with him until it was too late, and let several other fan favorites (and valuable players) leave for nothing because he wouldn’t trade them but also wouldn’t make them a serious extension offer. He hasn’t done a single thing anyone else couldn’t have done.
Fever Pitch Guy
Dirty – Good summary there.
Fever Pitch Guy
Dirty- I would just add to 2021 “fueled by 5 All Stars Bloom inherited from Dombrowski”.
Fever Pitch Guy
Stan – Yeah it’s amazing how much better a rating farm systems can get when:
1) You miss the postseason 3 out of 4 years
2) You finish in last place multiple times
3) You trade inherited star players for prospects
4) You take on large salaries to acquire prospects
You think Bloom did a good job building the farm system because he benefited from all 4 above?
Fever Pitch Guy
Pool – Exactly! Well it was only two last place finishes, as Bloom won’t be benefiting from last year’s last place finish, but your point is still valid.
Benny, Mookie, Vazquez all inherited players traded for prospects.
Prospects bought in the JBJ trade.
I’m sure there’s more.
Fever Pitch Guy
stan – Clearly working?
What exactly was “working”?
The 3 last place finishes in his 4 years?
Or the fact NONE of the prospects drafted/acquired has made an impact in the majors yet?
Please don’t tell me you’re one of those people who thinks the primary goal of a POBO is to improve the ranking of the farm system.
Are you even aware that some of the best organizations in MLB currently have the worst-rated farm systems?
They don’t give out awards for highest ranked farm systems.
Fever Pitch Guy
Joe – WHAT?
Did you really just call Vazquez “marginal” after years of arguing with me about how great a catcher he is?
Good grief!
BTW – Yes or no, the Sox received more draft picks as compensation for letting their free agents walk?
Yes or no, the Sox held onto more of their draft picks by not signing free agents with QO’s attached to them?
Admit it, the Red Sox have sucked for most of Bloom’s tenure because he was overly obsessed with pumping the farm system. His priorities were MOST DEFINITELY not in order, and it’s one reason why he was fired.
DirtyWater04
You nailed it Fever Pitch. Almost every player who has done anything of note on the field during the Bloom era has been someone brought into the organization by Dombrowski.
I’ll admit I made one oversight – I would say Whitlock has been a quality and impactful arm when healthy. Credit to his front office for taking him in the rule 5. But also the fact that he’s been hurt so much is a discredit to how poorly they’ve managed his role. So maybe in the end it’s a wash, so far. I’ll also give Chaim credit for trading for Schwarber in ’21, Brilliant acquisition, though letting him leave in free agency was a terrible move.
Sa63
I really hope he doesn’t take over for Mozlieak. That would be an even worse move.
luckyh
He did exactly what was asked of him in Boston. He’ll get another chance.
joe mcgrath
If you mean they asked him to suck at his job you are right. I have been a Red Sox fan for over 50 years and this guy was the worst GM/VPBO I have ever seen,
A'sfaninLondonUK
@joe mcgrath
It would be interesting to know exactly what was expected of Bloom as his “KPI’s” following his recruitment. Personally, I thought he was appalling, but appreciate it’d be difficult to relaunch a farm at the same time as challenging for the post season…
Fever Pitch Guy
lucky – I agree he probably will get another chance, most former POBO’s get at least a second chance.
But it will probably be a situation similar to Cherington taking over the Pirates. I don’t foresee Bloom’s next job being head of baseball ops for another large market team.
Yankee Clipper
Yeah, I think that about nails this league-wide. The trend in MLB (as a microcosm of businesses at-large) is that success isn’t necessarily the benchmark for present job stability and future job opportunities. Rather, it is one’s acquiescence to higher executive direction in spite of the fact it may be contrary to success that is the greater trait (or perceived to be).
Now, why MLB owners or GMs would rather have a guy who listens rather than a guy who wins is way beyond me; but I acknowledge that in sports I am hyper-competitive.
A'sfaninLondonUK
@Clipper
Agree entirely as an irrelevant middle manager myself! My idea of success is actually winning business (games) whereas my powers that be seem to find the idea of having accurate e-mail addresses of long “dead” clients more important….
Yankee Clipper
A’s fan: I can relate with your comment much more than you know. I did middle management for several years as well (head, meet brick wall, over and over and over).
kripes-brewers
Fantastic news, at least to this Brewers fan! Ha! This should be good!!!
lordadmiralsugartits
Curse of the Bloomino incoming.
Best Screenname Ever
Smart hire. Good luck to Chaim.
Troy Percival's iPad
“We’re only gonna draft guys that can hit”
-Bloom from Boston watching everyone else’s prospects that can hit also play good defense at premium positions
Baseball’s answer to Booger McFarland
Jason Hanselman
Sounds like the Cards want to get their payroll under control.
mostlytoasty
In fairness, Bloom seemed to have been brought into Boston specifically to make difficult—but planned—decisions that were always gonna upset fans. Their moves so far this off-season seem to suggest they’re still wanting to shed payroll so I’m not sure whether Bloom can be criticized that much if he was simply follow the directions of ownership.
Now… you could probably argue that he could have drawn a line in the sand on some of this stuff, which would have been a fair critique IMO.
Jason Hanselman
He’s the guy you bring in when you want to win, but you also really want to trim the fat. I think he’s really sharp, but like with Astros and Click we’ll see how much his good ideas matter to the old stiffs running the club.
JoeBrady
I’m not sure you can be hired to do xyz, and then then draw a line in the sand saying you won’t do xyz.
At the end of the day, he inherited an 84-win team, with a crappy farm, and the highest payroll in BB.
Fever Pitch Guy
Joe – At the end of the day, Bloom inherited basically the same 108-win World Championship team with a farm system that included Houck, Crawford, Bello, Duran, Casas and Rafaela.
You got one out of three right though, he did inherit the highest payroll in MLB.
mlb fan
The small market guys haven’t done that well when they move to bigger markets. LA’s Friedman is the only one that comes to mind when thinking about the ones to successfully navigate this transition.
Fever Pitch Guy
mlb – You think Friedman has been successful, spending a fortune every year and not ever winning a legit world championship?
Well alrighty then …
THEY LIVE!!!
I’d suggest moving Marmol and Moz to another organization for a bucket of KFC.
Cardsfan1984
So this offseason they have hired this guy as an advisor, and Molina as an assistant. What does this say about the PBO of the organization. To me it says he can’t do the job himself and is in panic mode bringing in people to tell him how to do his job.
stan lee the manly
Or he’s like a normal person and wants to retire at some point.
Yankee Clipper
What it meant with Cashman, when he hired two former GMs to assist him, was that they were implementing “change” at the position due to failures, when in reality no changes were made to operations. As David Cone says: “it’s all eyewash.”
Jabronie23
Good hire. He did some awesome work with the Rays, especially in developing pitchers.
soxfan4381
If he is so good at developing pitchers, why didn’t he develop any for Boston. Bello was a dumbroski guy. This guy clearly wasn’t the brains in Tampa.
JoeBrady
Bello was signed by DD, but developed post-DD.
Just for fun, go to the roster and tell me how many top-100 ranked pitching prospects we have on our 40-man roster. I believe that the answer is -0-. It’s hard to believe that we even have a pitching staff.
And this is not to blame or credit anyone, but it has been a really long time since we’ve had a top-tier pitcher in the minors.
Joel P
The Red Sox had a high school pitcher they drafted a few years ago. I can’t remember his name. What happened to him? Highly ranked guy going into the draft.
raylando
You may be thinking of Jay Groome, who they picked 12th overall out of high school in 2016. He had an 8.55 ERA for AAA El Paso (Padres affiliate) last year.
Houck was the first-rounder in 2017 but he played college ball.
Joel P
Yeah that’s him. ERA over 8 ouch.
Fever Pitch Guy
Joel – He was traded for Hosmer and two prospects, I wouldn’t write him off just yet.
Old York
Cards looking to be more tech savvy. They’re going to start bringing in all these guys who can walk and strikeout 500 times and hit 45 HRs with BA of 0.190.
Thoughts and prayers to the St. Louis Cardinals.
Didlz
@Old York Where are all these guys hitting .190 with 45 home runs?
Old York
@Didlz
Kyle Schwarber in 2023 had a 0.197 average. Gallo has a career 0.197 BA and hit 40 HRs in 2017 and 2018 sitting just above 0.200.
Wagner>Cobb
This is probably an environment that Bloom will be more comfortable in. Seems like he had money to spend in Boston but wasn’t sure how to use it.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Actually, he really didn’t because Sox management controlled too much apparently. At least that is the assumption.
Wagner>Cobb
A lot more payroll than what he was used to in Tampa Bay, no?
Fever Pitch Guy
Wagner – Bloom had a lot of inherited payroll, he hardly spent anything his first two years.
In fact his biggest contract those first couple years was $14M total for Kike.
GASoxFan
Fever, I believe *maybe* you’re forgetting a couple things a little bit. I guess it depends on how you quantify ‘barely spent anything’…. if you mean not much in high aav contracts, OK. I tend to focus how much money he allocated, or reallocated, whether by signing or trading. Add all of it together, and he had his hands on a more significant chunk of funds, including those first years.
Don’t focus only on the FA deals handed out, you need to count trades where he brought on payroll. I consider that spending.
Sometimes he brought on large chunks of money in a deal, other times he’d send one player (usually higher pedigree) out only to bring in another in his place.
Also all those guys he’d sign to league minimum then DFA/release were a constant slow bleed on the finances.
In the end I try to estimate exactly how much money he was responsible for who received it in a given year.
Wagner>Cobb
Unless I am much mistaken, he never had the option to sign players at the prices of Story or Yoshida though.
JoeBrady
No. The payroll was at $244M when he came here, and was down to $226M last year. And that in an era where other teams were doubling their payroll.
GASoxFan
Joe, still a misleading stat.
In 2019 Boston led all of MLB in spending and were second tier cbt penalty payors, on their second consecutive year.
It’s not realistic to have expected them to have kept growing from that starting point.
Erik J.
Advise on how to not spend money to be mediocre. Just what the Cardinals need!
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Orchestrated by John Henry. I think Bloom will be better in this position
This one belongs to the Reds
When a team hires a former GM as an “advisor”, it is not a vote of confidence in the current guy.
Maybe the Reds will have an advisor after 2024.
YankeesBleacherCreature
Cashman has had at least one advisor/Asst. GM for two decades plus so don’t get your hopes up.
Joel P
Mozeliak is probably going to be fired soon that’s been an opinion of mine and other Cardinal fans before this hire and even more now. Mozeliak can’t seem to hire people with experience and it’s hurt the franchise ever since Larussa left.
soxshortstop
Thought Chaim Breslow was still employed by the Red Sox!
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Oh but he is, depending on which one you talk about
30 Parks
Some type of midwestern New Year’s Resolution gone wrong, I assume.Chaim’s first bit of advice is “trade your best player for nothing.”
acoss13
To be fair to Chaim, Red Sox ownership pretty much pushed him to do that. I believe that was one of the first assignments given to him.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
I had a feeling Bloom was gonna get hired somewhere. I think it’s good- Sox management should have eased him in more rather than throw him to the wolves
swanhenge
I just picture Chaim during tenure w Boston sitting in his office refreshing MLBTR going “oh, maybe we should’ve signed him” and “boy, that’s a lot of money for a pitcher.”
Craviduce
Was hoping all winter they’d hire him. Heard rumblings in November for a week, then not much after that. Finally….you can’t go wrong with this hire.
BillMueller326
Yes you can
Fever Pitch Guy
Crav – I actually really hope the Cards eventually make him head of baseball ops. I’d love to see if he’s learned anything.
It would be kinda like when Jimy Williams and Grady Little were both canned by the Red Sox, and their supporters finally woke up after they got fired shortly after starting their new job with other teams.
I guess it’s like a fat person going to another doctor to get a second opinion.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
Gotta love that grin
bronyaur
Don’t the Cards already know how to make poor personnel decisions?
xpensivewinos
Take the Costanza approach. Whatever he says, do the opposite……..
Rsox
Apologies to Cardinals fans in advance
Garywally57
Unless billionaire Bill DeWallet gets serious about wanting a World Series for St.Louis, and puts fans before profits, it doesn’t matter who he hires. His goal is big profits, put a team on the field that draws at least 3 million fans and making a wild card spot.
sacrifice
Red Sox are doing everything a team does before SELLING
Fever Pitch Guy
sacrifice – Not gonna happen for at least another decade, until after Fenway Corners is done.
THEY LIVE!!!
Is this the guy the phrase “Blooming Idiot” was coined after? or perhaps another relative?
THEY LIVE!!!
I think this means the Cards extend Goldy and trade Arenado.
Maybe they sign Bauer too??
Fever Pitch Guy
They – I hope Cards fans like pitchers with career 6+ ERA’s that have been released by at least 3 other teams ;O)
highflyballintorightfield
I guess they don’t think Girsch is PBO material? He may regret not interviewing for the Mets job a couple of years ago when they were desperate.
CardsFan57
I’m happy they went outside the organization for the first time since Jocketty and La Russa. I hope MO becomes a lame duck and Bloom gets control immediately. Fresh blood is needed.
Card66
Really ! Bloom his record sucks , great hire if you wanna be a losing team, which his record shows he’s capable of doing.
CardsFan57
I’m willing to give him a chance.
explodet
Wow. I know the Cards were bad last year, but committing to tanking seems like an overreaction.
FanOfTheUmpires
Hall of Fame track (not everyone in the Hall is a player)
Card66
Bloom’s record speaks for itself , it shows he is a loser. just what the Cardinals need!
FanOfTheUmpires
Except for the small detail of ending the Red Sox’ 197 year World Series drought, except for that small detail of what he did.
Poolhalljunkies
Fanoftheumpires…Umm..are you serious? That was Theo Epstein back in 2004.vs St Louis.and it was 86 years. Bloom has never been part of an organization that has won a title when he was there
FanOfTheUmpires
Ok, error. But Epstein inherited that team, it was not his team. You can ask anybody- Rome, Plaschke, Blum, Verducci, Stark, etc., etc., etc.
Poolhalljunkies
Epstein was the GM at the time and is responsible for many the most relevant players on the team..ie david ortiz for example and would any of that have to do with Bloom?
FanOfTheUmpires
Slusser, Gammons, Law, Axisa, etc.
Sky14
197 year playoff drought? Didn’t realize they hadn’t won since the Jefferson administration.
Jaa1968
Advise on what? How to do nothing?
THEY LIVE!!!
Bloom is just 40 years old. Can he pitch??
dasit
he executed the mandate he was given but building for a 2025-2028 window was not going to work with a large-market GFIN fan base
3768902
First order of business: let’s see if Chaim’s Redsox login and password still work XD
Devlsh
3768902 – I get the reference and got a chuckle.
SupremeZeus
Bringing Bloom in to workshop those Arrenado & Goldie trades 🙂
Devlsh
When rumors of this first arose, the interest in Bloom was framed as the Cardinals wanting to improve their pitching development, and Bloom was touted as a guy who might bring along some of the success in that area that Tampa Bay has had.
My reaction then…and now…is that while St. Louis DOES need to modernize its pitching development, why hire a guy who left the Rays five years ago? Five years is an eon when it comes to analytics and modern pitching development. Yes, it still may represent progress in the Cardinals organization but what they need to do is steal away people who are doing cutting edge stuff right NOW, because by the time it’s internalized and instituted organization-wide, it will already no longer be cutting edge.
WCSoxFan
“Per the data at Cot’s Baseball Contracts, the Sox had payrolls above $230MM in 2018 and 2019 but have averaged under $190MM in the past three years.”
Please add ‘opening day’ before ‘payrolls’ in the sentence above.
Opening day payrolls aren’t very useful. Hopefully it was just an oversight and the writer didn’t use those numbers to emphasize their point, as what was written was factually incorrect.
GASoxFan
Also don’t forget the fact those payrolls included money to guys no longer with the team that were signed pre DD….
Bounty Hunters IA
east Missouri team hasn’t hacked anyone’s database for awhile. Time to upgrade your firewalls MLB teams. The cheaters have a new “remote” exec to steal your data. It’s hilarious he wants the job but doesn’t want to work in that cesspool town.
Devlsh
Good grief, is this what you came to MLB Trade Rumours to talk about?
I saw Joel’s original comment and I interpreted it then exactly the way he later explained he intended it. I’ve no reason to doubt him, and unless you’re LOOKING for reasons to be offended or make accusations, I’d move on….maybe to the subject of baseball.
Andujar
Good luck with that.
He was terrible in Boston.
CardsFan57
The last update is a head scratcher. It seems like a nothing burger if he isn’t even joining the team in St Louis.
Card66
More of MO’s lies. Part Time? Bloom is gonna be at home and away games, that does not sound like part time to me.
BaseballGuy1
Would be a blessing to get someone at the top that has not been brainwashed with The Cardinal Way propaganda. Would immediately lead to an experienced MLB manager that is also from outside the STL organization. Team falters in 2024, which it will, and Mozeliak is gone even if his contract is through 2025 and we all know Marmol is the first one out the door. Past time for changes in STL.
Hamburger Sausageface III
“The cardinal way” was fantastic until Mozeliak ruined it. Once he started pushing analytics as god that was it. The cardinal way used to be about perfecting the fundamentals, not launch angle.
soxshortstop
Chaim Bloom gets hired before Red Sox sign a meaningful free agent. pathetic.
baseballteam
Hear Bloom’s advice and do the opposite and you’re golden.
UncommonSense
Every spring the Chaim blooms in St Louis
wifflemeister
Cardinals continue to make timid and ultimately useless moves.
This team needs a new GM bad.
Joe Robbins
Guys, I do not trust any decisions or actions of Mo at this point. They were not even honest about not having any injuries. We need a real President, a real GM, a real Manager, and a real pitching coach. The guys on this chat could together, effectively run the Cardinals better in my humble
Opinion.
Jagsmanohman
He is extremely devout.
BaseballisLife
Perfect fit.
Niekro floater
As if Mo wasn’t avg-ish enough on his own, let’s pick chaim’s brain. He’ll tell em trade areando 4pesos on the dollar like betts n team will strive.
dano62
Should have got Kim Ng and ushered Mozzy out…
Charlie'sSinging
So glad we’re adding another front office salary and extra unnecessary travel costs, since he won’t relocate. I’d hate to spend that money on a player to help the team on the field.
The Saber-toothed Superfife
And they still won’t hire the Superfife. I don’t even have, “fell on my face”, as part of my resume……
Hire the Superfife!
fenwayfrank
Chaim came to Boston with lots of promise, a fresh set of eyes from a sharp organization (TB) and we hoped he’d turn the Sox around. Instead he nibbled around the edges, signed minor league free agents, waiver claims, basically treated Boston like TB. Some say ownership set the rules, maybe so, but in the end the proof is in the pudding, and we we sadly came in last place again.
GO LUCK Cardinal fans, oh yes, and don’t plan on printing playoff tickets in the near future.
Hamburger Sausageface III
Great. Exactly what I was hoping for after the most infuriating 10 seasons of my life….moneyball. They better not make this guy GM.