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Brown: Astros Not In Market For Additional Starting Pitching

By Nick Deeds | March 5, 2024 at 2:41pm CDT

March 5: Even following today’s announcement that Verlander will open the season on the injured list, Brown doubled down on his comments downplaying a potential rotation addition (X link via Brian McTaggart of MLB.com). Brown again stated that his club isn’t in the market for starting pitching at this time, pointing France as the likely fifth starter behind Valdez, Javier, Brown and Urquidy. Blanco and prospect Spencer Arrighetti were also listed by Brown as depth options.

March 3: The Astros made a major splash at the back of their bullpen by signing relief ace Josh Hader to a five-year deal back in January, fortifying a late-inning mix that already included veteran closer Ryan Pressly and flamethrowing youngster Bryan Abreu. In the run-up to Spring Training, however, Houston GM Dana Brown indicated that the club hoped to make further additions to the pitching side of its roster before Opening Day, either by adding a reliever to the club’s bullpen mix or perhaps by adding another starter to allow other potential rotation arms to work in relief. That no longer appears to be the plan, as the GM downplayed the likelihood of such an addition coming to fruition in comments made to reporters (including The Athletic’s Chandler Rome) yesterday.

“We might add something later (around the trade deadline), but right now I think our team’s built to win and we’re ready to go,” Brown said, as relayed by Rome. Brown then went on to specifically note that he doesn’t expect the club to sign left-hander Blake Snell, the top free agent remaining on the open market, even as he admitted that he “would love to have him” on board.

It’s not necessarily a surprise that the Astros aren’t likely to aggressively pursue a deal with Snell. After all, the club has already entered unprecedented territory this winter when it comes to payroll. Per Cot’s Baseball Contracts, the Astros have never entered a season with a projected payroll above their $187MM figure from the 2021 season, but RosterResource projects the club to blow that figure out of the water this year with a whopping $240MM payroll entering the 2024 campaign. Those same projections put Houston at a $254MM payroll for luxury tax purposes, just a hair below the second threshold of $257MM. An addition of Snell’s caliber would surely blow past that number, as would even smaller deals for remaining mid-level free agent arms such as Michael Lorenzen or Mike Clevinger.

While Brown’s comments suggest that the club is comfortable with its internal options in the rotation, Houston’s depth is already being tested with a month left to go before Opening Day. Both veteran ace Justin Verlander and sophomore right-hander J.P. France have been sidelined to this point in the spring by shoulder issues, leaving the status of bother hurlers in question ahead of Opening Day. Should both righties begin the season on the shelf, the club would likely be left to turn to either Ronel Blanco or Brandon Bielak as their fifth starter behind the established quartet of Framber Valdez, Cristian Javier, Hunter Brown, and Jose Urquidy. Blanco made seven starts for the Astros last year, pitching to a 4.74 ERA in 38 innings of work, while Bielak posted a 3.69 ERA in 70 2/3 frames over 13 starts.

The recent comments seem to shut the door on the club making any major additions, though it’s at least plausible that the Astros could look to shore up their bullpen depth with a smaller investment. The best remaining relief arm on the free agent market, veteran right-hander Ryne Stanek, spent the last three seasons in Houston and pitched to a strong 2.90 ERA with a 3.91 FIP during his time with the club, though he’s coming off a shaky platform season that saw him post a 4.09 ERA with a career-worst 23.9% strikeout rate. Other veteran options still available include Brad Boxberger and Mark Melancon, each of whom offer late inning experience and could likely be had on non-roster deals after injury-marred 2023 campaigns.

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53 Comments

  1. MikeBSoxFan

    1 year ago

    The Astros should easily win the AL West if there are no significant injuries along the way.

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    • Rocker49

      1 year ago

      Agreed, although I do believe the Rangers will lead baseball in runs scored, but then again they will also lead baseball in runs surrendered haha! But agreed, Astros are the only well rounded team in that division.

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      • MikeBSoxFan

        1 year ago

        The SP stable they have with the mix of veterans and younger arms, is what will take this team to the playoffs. If Abreu returns to pre-Astros form, they will run away with the division from the jump.

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        • User 4014041831

          1 year ago

          HOU could really use McCullers to be even 75% of his former self.
          Limit his innings etc.

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        • dano62

          1 year ago

          Sad that McCullers is now an afterthought now…

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        • BennyGiant

          1 year ago

          Now now, now.

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      • AirY0rdan

        1 year ago

        I can’t realistically see the Rangers beating the Dodgers or Braves in runs scored. There’s just no way…

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    • pd14athletics

      1 year ago

      Easily? I can see picking Astros, but I think it will be a dogfight between Astros, Mariners, and Rangers. Snell or Montgomery could swing that. I expect all 3 to contend for division and WC.

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      • jjd002

        1 year ago

        The Mariners? Lol

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        • pd14athletics

          1 year ago

          Yup. I think Mariners fans mostly are rightfully disappointed that they didn’t pull off a big signing, but I can see them being in the fight and swinging a big blockbuster deal and going for it at the deadline. Something like Pete Alonso.

          Astros are very good and I’m fine with anyone saying they are the favorites in the division. I’d agree at this point. But I think Mariners and Rangers are right there. Definitely not taking division “easily”. The Mariners finished just 2 games behind last year after all, and I really think Jerry trading off Sewald killed it for the team. This year, I think he buys instead of sells.

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        • dano62

          1 year ago

          I don’t think Alfonso is on their radar, but I wouldn’t discount if Cardinals fall flat & M’s are on a roll that a deal between DiPoto & Moz featuring an older corner infield could happen…

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        • jjd002

          1 year ago

          The last 3 years people have been claiming this. How have those years been for Seattle? I wouldn’t expect it any different this year. Seattle will not be in the hunt for the division (barring major injuries to Houston like Altuve or Yordan missing extended periods like last season). Seattle likely competes for a Wild Card and might be ahead of Texas, due to their own injury concerns. But right now it isn’t a three team race and people thinking that are being extremely hopeful.

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        • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

          1 year ago

          It definitely was a three-team race last season as well, and in fact the entire AL West championship came down to the final weekend where it was a crapshoot on who came out on top. The Mariners also mastered the Astros all season long; so not sure why you dismiss them out of hand so assuredly.

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  2. JackStrawb

    1 year ago

    You add Hader instead of a solid MOR or better because you expect to get to the postseason and want a three-closer pen in order to rip through it and win a World Series.

    We shall see.

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    • C Yards Jeff

      1 year ago

      Yep. That’s a heck of a back end. Built for the playoffs … that is … in 2024. Power arm Hader over 5 years … oof… does he hold up?

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      • mlb fan

        1 year ago

        “Does he hold up”…Giving any reliever not named “Mariano” is a bad baseball decision that likely burns the Astros in the end. They could have kept Neris for 20% of what Hader got and then have money left to address other needs.

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        • AirY0rdan

          1 year ago

          How can you know it’s a bad baseball decision before the man even played in a Astros uniform?

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        • C Yards Jeff

          1 year ago

          True. We don’t know. That said; I’m over here in Baltimore; coping with the realty that Kimbrel not Bautista is our closer this year. I guess it’s safe to say I have a bias here .

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        • mlb fan

          1 year ago

          “How can you know”…I didn’t write that correctly. I meant to say giving any reliever a 5 year deal is bad baseball. How do I know?..Just the general history of relievers and guys who sometimes pitch 3-5 times per week. I remember how fast Dellin Betances went from elite, high leverage reliever to out of baseball in a matter of months.

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        • AirY0rdan

          1 year ago

          You can’t know it’s bad baseball at least until the dude pitches. I’m not saying in any way it will end up being a bad contract. I’m saying to be jumping out in front so early saying it’s bad baseball is really jumping to conclusions before we know anything.

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        • mlb fan

          1 year ago

          “You can’t know it’s bad”…Nobody is saying they have a crystal ball, so what that really means is it’s a very bad risk vs reward ratio. Especially when a similar baseball solution(Neris or any of several other relievers)was available for 25% of the price of Hader. This is an opinion, not a statement of fact so don’t take it so literally.

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        • AirY0rdan

          1 year ago

          If something is a bad risk vs reward ratio, before you determine what actually happens you can’t call it bad…. If every move somebody made that was high risk high reward, and before they made it you called it bad and told them not to do it, nobody would succeed in life.

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        • Tigers3232

          1 year ago

          So if a guy is often hurt he’s I jury prone and if a guy has been healthy and shownto be reliable he’s now high risk cus of heavy use?? Sorry but that just seems like being universally critical.

          As for Neris’s usage, yes he’s appeared in a lit of games and has shown to be very durable and available. But ultimately over the last 3 seasons he’s thrown just under 200 innings. So no in the grand scheme of things his usage was actually not heavy at all.

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        • AirY0rdan

          1 year ago

          Is Hader often hurt and unreliable?

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        • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

          1 year ago

          I just saw the Fangraphs projections for the Baltimore bullpen being 28th in the league for WAR. Yikes !!!!

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  3. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    1 year ago

    The thing about Brown and I didn’t know this, but when he was made Gm of the Astos, but that Seton Hall baseball team was loaded offensively
    They were terrific, maybe their pitching stunk, but that offense was Excellent

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      1 year ago

      Seton Hall whut? Sorry, what’s the connection??

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      • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

        1 year ago

        Brown was the lead off hitter with the Seton Hall Team in the late 80’s

        Along with Mo Vaughn and HOF’er Biggio

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  4. Buzzz Killington

    1 year ago

    The 2024 AL West Division Champion Mariners are ok with this.

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    • Air Yardan 2

      1 year ago

      Lolololol, I needed a laugh. Thank you

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    • steven st croix

      1 year ago

      Depends on what SEA does at the deadline. They needed to add this offseason not subtract.

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      • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

        1 year ago

        Is that really your picture or some celebrity I don’t know?

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      1 year ago

      Thank you Buzz, love to see the positivity, go M’s.

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  5. Augusto Barojas

    1 year ago

    The pitching bargain of the offseason will wind up being Clevinger, my opinion. I don’t like him at all, but he pitched very well down the stretch and posted a 3+ WAR season. For as cheap as he will be (if any team actually takes him with his personal baggage), I think he might be an incredible bargain. He might have to settle for 1 year, 4-5M? I doubt he gets more than 10M. He might not get an offer at all, also possible.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      1 year ago

      That might be a low number which explains why he’s still available. If Severino and Montas can get 13/14, Clevinger isn’t only worth less than half of that.

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    • thickiedon

      1 year ago

      *Bauer

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  6. LordD99

    1 year ago

    Some messaging from all teams. Draw your own conclusions.

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  7. User 4014041831

    1 year ago

    Odorizzi, Greinke are worth a roster spot or split contract majors/AAA No?

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  8. dano62

    1 year ago

    Odorizzi must of had bad gas when he auditioned a few weeks ago…

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      1 year ago

      That always seems to be the deal breaker in my interviews as well.

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  9. Rishi

    1 year ago

    I really would like to hear Arnold Schwarzenegger say “Brad Boxberger”.

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    • Tigers3232

      1 year ago

      Great take here Rishi. Now that you ve mentioned it, it definitely would be awesome hearing him slaughter his name with elegance.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      1 year ago

      It takes a lot of thinking outside the box to pull off something that random Rishi +1

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  10. Goose

    1 year ago

    I figured by the end of this week Snell and Montgomery would sign similar deals to Chapman and Bellinger. With the need for veteran starting pitching I am a little surprised no one has jumped in unless they are sticking to their guns. It seems a little suicidal for a pitcher as we are well into spring training now. The big shocker is Clevinger and Bauer are out there and cheap by today’s prices. Bauer was acquitted and they are treating him like Ozuna or Urias who already got nailed for domestic abuse and on their second accusations/offenses.

    A smart owner would have swooped in and grabbed Clevinger and Bauer for a song and instantly upgraded their rotation.

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    • Jobu's Rum

      1 year ago

      Bauer was never charged with a crime nor tried so therefore he couldn’t have been acquitted. Are you implying that all 30 owners are not smart for having no interest in Bauer, his baggage, and unneeded media attention which comes along?

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      • oldgfan

        1 year ago

        Or just maybe the 30 owners know that Bauer is history. Hasn’t pitched in the league in years. Talent dropped off drastically when the sticky stuff was eliminated. I would say he’s washed up, but that Dodger stink don’t wash off.
        That’s without his attitude & baggage issues. Move on people !

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      1 year ago

      You’re assuming MLB teams would be indifferent to pissing off all their female fans and any of their male fans fans who respect the women in their lives? Bauer doesn’t respect women, at all.

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  11. RobM

    1 year ago

    I was waiting for the daily post highlighting how separate teams all across the game have the same messaging, but we’re supposed to believe there’s no connection.

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  12. The Voices

    1 year ago

    Elephant in the room- Trevor- arguably the best pitcher in baseball- remains unsigned and is happy to play for minimum.

    Even though Trevor is only asking for minimum, it seems like minimum plus incentives for a maximum possible of 50 million per year would be reasonable

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    • oldgfan

      1 year ago

      You can also argue that the world is flat.

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  13. Ignorant Son-of-a-b

    1 year ago

    Brown seems out of his league as a GM. Seems to be constantly messaging and then subsequently contradicted by something Crane does. Crane still running the show while Brown is the figurehead, seems to me.

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    • stroh

      1 year ago

      Totally agree. Any significant move made by Brown is Crane telling him to go get it done. Brown said he was not in the market to trade for a starter and they traded for JV, he said that they would not pay large dollars for a reliever and they signed Hader. I think Crane is going to tell him to sign Snell or Montgomery.

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  14. BannedMarlinsFanBase

    1 year ago

    Oh darn it! I was so looking forwrd to the many more ridiculous posts about some more dime-a-dozen prospects being traded to the Marlins for Luzardo. We didn’t get enough of those this offseason every time there was an article about a team looking for another starting pitcher.

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