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Injury Notes: Rangers, Tigers, Treinen, Martin

By Nick Deeds | March 9, 2024 at 6:15pm CDT

Orthopedic surgeon and Rangers head physician Dr. Keith Meister recently spoke to Ken Rosenthal and Eno Sarris of The Athletic to discuss the increasing number of injuries around the game, which he suggests could be due to the prevalence of sweepers and hard changeups in today’s game. Meister suggested to Rosenthal and Sarris that “spin is worse” than even velocity in terms of its impact on pitcher health, as both of the aforementioned pitches put additional stress on the pitcher’s arm. Rosenthal and Sarris went on to note that Meister shared his findings on the matter with league executives for a study focused on injury prevention, with the league intending to create a task force on the matter once the study is complete.

It seems as though players remain skeptical of the idea that certain breaking balls are creating an injury problem in the league, with Chris McCosky of The Detroit News noting that several Tigers pitchers seemed to hold reservations regarding the concept. Southpaw Tarik Skubal told McCosky that he believes velocity to have “more of a correlation” with injury than specific pitches, while adding that he doesn’t believe “any one thing” has led to the increase in pitcher injuries in recent years. One of the game’s most promising young lefties, Skubal was limited to just 36 starts across the past two seasons by flexor-tendon surgery. For their part, Rosenthal and Sarris note in their own article that many pitchers in the big leagues view injuries as an “occupational hazard” and are unbothered by the spiking injury rates around the game.

Those hurlers aren’t alone in uncertainty regarding Meister’s assertion, with Rosenthal and Sarris pointing out that while Meister suggests that increased grip strength is being used to improve spin rates at the expense of pitcher health, one pitching coach noted that “research is divided” on the correlation between grip strength and spin rates. Regardless of its cause, there’s no doubt that pitchers have been facing more injuries in recent years. Rosenthal and Sarris note that, per Meister, he operated upon around 230 elbow ligaments in 2023 and that this year is “way ahead” of that same pace. Lucas Giolito, Kodai Senga, and Justin Verlander are among the pitchers who have dealt with elbow and shoulder issues this spring, while the likes of Jacob deGrom, Max Scherzer, Shane McClanahan, Brandon Woodruff and Shohei Ohtani are among the many top pitchers who will be sidelined for at least the first half of the 2024 campaign (if not longer) after undergoing surgery last year.

More injury-related notes from around the league…

  • Dodgers right-hander Blake Treinen was struck by a comebacker during today’s spring training game against Texas, with The Athletic’s Fabian Ardaya among those to note that the Dodgers diagnosed the issue as a right rib contusion following Treinen’s departure from the game. Treinen is set to undergo both x-rays and a CT scan in the wake of the incident, with manager Dave Roberts indicating to reporters (including Ardaya) that the club will have more information on the right-hander’s status tomorrow. Treinen, 36 in June, has long been among the most talented relievers in the game but has struggled to stay on the field in recent years, pitching just five innings since the end of the 2021 season. Should he remain healthy enough to stay on the mound, he figures to be a key piece of the relief mix in L.A. alongside the likes of Evan Phillips and Brusdar Graterol.
  • Red Sox righty Chris Martin was pulled from a live batting practice session earlier today after a pair of warm-up pitches, with Chris Cotillo of MassLive indicating that, per manager Alex Cora, Martin was suffering from groin tightness. Cora added that the issue had “nothing” to do with Martin’s arm and that the club figures to re-evaluate Martin in the coming days. The soon-to-be 37-year-old hurler is coming off a dominant season on the mound for Boston last year where he posted a 1.05 ERA in 55 appearances. Martin has found his name in the rumor mill this winter as a potential trade candidate, and while it’s possible that the veteran’s groin issue could be a cause of concern for potential suitors, he appears less likely to be moved following the deal that sent fellow set-up option John Schreiber to the Royals and instead seems likely to join fellow veteran trade candidate Kenley Jansen at the back of the Red Sox bullpen to open the year.
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  1. Manfred’s playing with the balls

    2 years ago

    Increased velocity and spin both probably play a factor. I’m more interested in how they solve it because you can’t outlaw breaking pitches or force guys to throw softer.

    Seems like they need to add more pitchers to rosters or shorten the season.

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    • Chris_Favreau

      2 years ago

      Or…. Big or.. they could scale back the analytics bs that has somewhat ruined baseball. Like I told my son who’s getting ready to leave for college… You may make more an hour at the car wash opposed to the grocery store, but when they cancel your hours at the car wash because the weather is nice, never forget that $13/hour is better than $0/hour.

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      • Manfred’s playing with the balls

        2 years ago

        Yeah but that’s up to each team and with competition, I don’t see it as realistic even though I agree that it’d be beneficial.

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  2. NYCityRiddler

    2 years ago

    Hmm, what, huh. Oh sorry must’ve dozed off during the article. I’m back on the edge of my seat now though, riveting article, riveting. Ahahaha!

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    • paddyo furnichuh

      2 years ago

      The riddler waiting upon their Ritalin or Adderal so as to finish the article…that visual does bring about a chuckle.

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  3. Mikenmn

    2 years ago

    If I’m MLB, i want more than a study group, I’d like some answers. That’s not because of any humanitarian impulse, but purely for $. In the past, teams pitched their talent until their arms fell off. Now those pitchers are signed to enormous contracts, and with length being a factor, losing a guy for 12-18 months during the years you were expecting peak performance costs.

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    • gbs42

      2 years ago

      Yeah, who needs humanitarian impulse when there’s money on the line? Screw compassion, it’s all about $$.

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  4. The Saber-toothed Superfife

    2 years ago

    How to siphon loony money….. invent a study group. The never ending saga of the American study group……

    WooHoo!….money! More money…..!

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    • ChipotleFlavoredChrist

      2 years ago

      That’s the entire consultant industry. Can’t perform well at your job but you’re well connected? Consultant! Too old to be viable in your position, but you have a lot of contacts? Consultant! Are you a moron with no discernible skills, but your partner has contacts? Consultant! Consultants also have the added benefit of being the compensated to take the blame for stupid company ideas.because they themselves are stupid.

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      • paddyo furnichuh

        2 years ago

        ChipotlewithextraAVO….It sounds like you may be part of a study group looking into stupidity?

        I kid! No offense intended, it was just a facetious comment on a logical follow-through to your comment .

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        • ChipotleFlavoredChrist

          2 years ago

          Aww. Did the dumb consultant get angry? The failed joke was telling.

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  5. Phil Haverdink

    2 years ago

    Scherzer is not out due to arm surgery…

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    • Niekro floater

      2 years ago

      Thought it was Scherzer’s back ? Could put Kershaw on that list of Ps out 4half the upcoming season because of arm surgery.

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  6. Karensjer

    2 years ago

    Meister is spot on!! The Rays are one of the most pro-spin rate teams in the sport and at least 1-3 of their pitchers go down for the season every year. They think they can get a guy to become an All-Star by finding ways to get them more spin rate, then months later, Tommy John or some other season ending surgery. Brendan McKay, Shane Baz, Tyler Glasnow, Jeffrey Springs, Drew Rasmussen, Shane McClanahan. Am I missing anyone from the past 2-3 years? They need to quit signing pitchers with ‘elite spin rate’ and just get guys who can throw strikes and generate weak ground ball contact. Detroit is another one with pro-spin rate coaches and guys like Turnbull and Mize go down. I hope the league takes the studies seriously and outlaws any spin-rate tracking devices in stadiums or team affiliated facilities. Couldn’t hurt if the studies prove that spin rate is the cause.

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  7. jballauer

    2 years ago

    Keith Meister does everybody’s TJ surgery, Ranger or not.

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  8. jballauer

    2 years ago

    Meister has a point, but what is missing is how early this happens now. Many nice, young pitchers are having arm and shoulder procedures done in high school. They throw at an early age more than ever. They go to pitching performance centers and learn to spin the ball using trackman. By the time they are drafted, they are a ticking time bomb.

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  9. Bostonsportsforlife

    2 years ago

    just let them use the damn sticky stuff

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  10. Niekro floater

    2 years ago

    Spin-rate, max velo, also could have something to do w/weighted ball programs the uptick in arm injuries. Kids do specialize now @younger n younger ages and play alot more games then we did as kids. They goto camps n pitching clinics. Continual stress on those arms, increasing more n more, and alot of em w/flawed mechanics. The human body was simply not made to throw overhand.

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