On Wednesday evening, the Dodgers announced they’d fired Ippei Mizuhara, who was working as Shohei Ohtani’s personal interpreter. Mizuhara has been Ohtani’s friend and interpreter dating back to before his signing with the Angels in 2017.
Gustavo Arellano, Adam Elmahrek, Nathan Fenno and Paul Pringle of the Los Angeles Times first reported the news, which comes amidst a probe into an alleged illegal gambling operation in Southern California. Attorneys for Ohtani told the L.A. Times that the two-way star “had been the victim of a massive theft.” While that statement did not specify who had committed that alleged theft, the evident implication is that Mizuhara did so.
ESPN’s Tisha Thompson reported that upwards of $4.5MM had been wired from a bank account in Ohtani’s name to the alleged gambling ring. Sports gambling remains illegal in California. A spokesperson for Ohtani initially told ESPN that the two-time MVP had wired the money to pay off gambling debts which Mizuhara had accrued. The spokesperson later retracted that and pointed to the attorneys’ statement concerning theft.
Mizuhara and other sources told ESPN that Ohtani does not gamble and that the wire transfers covered losses which the interpreter had racked up. An attorney for Matthew Bowyer, the alleged bookmaker, said in a statement to ESPN that “Mr. Bowyer never met or spoke with Shohei Ohtani.” ESPN reports that Mizuhara had placed bets with Bowyer on various sports, not including baseball, going back to 2021.
On Tuesday, Mizuhara told ESPN that he’d asked Ohtani to pay off his gambling debts. “Obviously, he wasn’t happy about it and said he would help me out to make sure I never do this again,” Mizuhara had said. “He decided to pay it off for me. I want everyone to know Shohei had zero involvement in betting. I want people to know I did not know this was illegal. I learned my lesson the hard way. I will never do sports betting ever again.” Mizuhara had stated that he and Ohtani sent multiple wire transfers to the bookmaker in installments; ESPN observed two transfers at $500K apiece in Ohtani’s name.
Mizuhara disavowed those comments this afternoon, telling ESPN that Ohtani was unaware of the gambling debts and had not transferred any money. “Obviously, this is all my fault, everything I’ve done. I’m ready to face all the consequences,” he said on Wednesday. He reiterated that he did not place any bets on baseball.
Needless to say, MLB players and team employees are prohibited from placing bets on baseball. They are allowed to place bets on other sports, although that obviously only applies in jurisdictions where sports gambling is legal.
“The Dodgers are aware of media reports and are gathering information,” the club said in a statement. “The team can confirm that interpreter Ippei Mizuhara has been terminated. The team has no further comment at this time.” An MLB official told Andy McCullough, Fabian Ardaya, Britt Ghiroli and Sam Blum of the Athletic that Ohtani is not currently facing discipline. A league source tells ESPN that their next step is to “gather facts,” although it’s unclear if they’ll launch an official investigation.
Er
Whatre the odds..
How can someone be so bad at sportsbetting? Must be lost in translation
bucs – He probably bet against UConn for the past couple years.
FPG that would explain it
Even Rose wasn’t very good, even when betting on baseball or the Reds. Heck, in one day he lost the equivalent, in today’s money, of $42,000.
Maybe he thought it was yen.
LOL
It’s almost like gambling is a sure way to lose money. Who knew? And I thought bookies performed a public service.
There are what they call sharps out there that routinely win in the betting world. If you are betting big and got a reputation as a sharp your bet moves moneylines in Vegas. There are some like Sean Perry in which the casino will refuse your action, you have to give the money to someone else and have them place your bets. Harabolos Volgaris is probably the most famous sharp. He was so good at betting basketball that Mark Cuban gave him a front office job.
And then there’s Phil Ivey in the poker world. He took a London casino for millions after spotting something about the cards they used that would give him an edge—and indeed it did.
They won’t be letting him through the door again any time soon.
Edge sorting….Ivey figured out that the manufacturers of some decks had imperfections on the edges of face cards. Crocksford made the mistake of using the deck of cards Ivey brought with him. There are concessions casinos will make in order to get a whale gambler. He didn’t even get caught in London, it was at the Borgata in Atlantic City where they realized what he was doing, when the Borgata refused to pay Ivey that’s when Crocksford decided to sue. This was 10 years ago and I think it just got settled.
Huge GAMBLE by the dodger’s firing his boy!
Ohtani, Betts batting 1 then 2 makes all the more sense now.
The retraction of the first statement, which was pretty detailed and there was no reason to doubt, absolutely SCREAMS that there’s more here. That he’s covering something. The bookie’s assertion that he’s never personally met Shohei is immaterial and therefore also suspicious as hell. That the news broke when the team (and the interpreter, I assume) is in the Far East and thus out of reach for the feds is also interesting.
Ohtani is lying, he bet on baseball thru his interpreter stooge.
Oh yeah ohtani definitely didn’t see 4.5 million come out of his account.
It’s theft I tell you!!! Theft!!!
Yeah bs
All very fishy. First Ippy says Sho was with him at the computer when funds were transferred. Then took it back. Said was him alone. Throws in Shohei doesn’t gamble. Guy makes 300k a year. Owing 4.5 mill seems a bit out of his league. Wonder if he’s taking a hit for Shohei. 700 mill contract annulled for gambling ??? Can’t have that
Wow, a personal interpreter makes $300k? I know that the interpreter is expected to also be like a personal assistant, perhaps always on call, but nice work if you can do it and keep it.
He makes whatever Shohei says he makes. That’s part of the contract negotiations.
Keep it? All bets are off.
truth – I’d rather be the dogwalker earning $150K …. less travel, more women.
Yeah, I think if they prove that the betting wasn’t on baseball and only other sports the ethics of it lighten a bit but still illegal, probably not as big of an MLB suspension like if it were on baseball.
Since it was illegal, maybe being concerned about the legal penalty is more important than what MLB does. Is it a state or federal crime? Felony or misdemeanor?
This wreaks of a cover-up involving a fall guy . . .
I was thinking the same thing like when the BALCO guy refused to testify against Bonds / Giambi & took the contempt of court charge instead.
Hopefully Ohtani’s interpreter decides to rat him out like Arod’s cousin did
Respectfully, reeks not “wreaks”
Thank you.
Will dodgers void the contract like with Bauer?
I now officially hate the Dodgers like I hated the Yankees in my youth.
MLB will protect this clown at all costs.
Unfortunately so.
Maybe Ohtani possibly got caught placing bets by the FBI?
MLB cannot afford to lose all those billions off of marketing Ohtani obviously…hmmmmmmm
Reports do say the FBI is involved, so that’s very logical. I can tell you that the reason he changed his story is that when it came out he paid off the debts, it was unintentionally confirming Ohtani engaged in illegal [gambling] activity as a principal or conspirator.
It’s going to be really interesting to see Robbie “the snake” Manfred slither around this one.
I mean he already gave the Houston players free passes…
Padres fans should start making signs about Ohtani to distract him. He is in serious trouble with this story. He should be suspended immediately.
As a Rangers fan I agree, those Houston players should have received a life time ban for cheating like the black Sox in 1913 or 1909, I don’t remember the year but 6-7 players got life time bans, now Pete Rose is still banned and I am sure he never bet $4,500,000 bucks. Free Pete Rose!!!!!!
Sign number one:
“Worst story since ringworms”
Sign number two:
“Story has bigger hole than Jake Cronenwerth’s glove”
@Yankee Clipper I also think that’s the reason. No matter the intention that first story could definitely stir up some trouble for ShoTime.
Padres have fans? Plural?
There can only be penalties for actions by players if its covered in the CBA. That was not covered in the CBA so Manfred had no possibility of giving them any kind of penalty.
All he could do is what he did, suspend team employees and officials and fine the team.
Not suspended, but definitely placed on administrative leave.
What they did was not against the rules according to the CBA. They could not be suspended.
Since the Commissioner’s report about the electronic sign stealing found that in 2017 9 other teams besides the ones that had been penalized (the Astros, Yankees, and Red Sox) had done similar electronic sign stealing, should ALL of the players involved get a lifetime ban or just the Astros players?
Only the Dodgers had more fans in attendance last season and the dodgers play in a stadium that seats 55k vs 40,509 in Petco.
baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/2023-misc.sh…
Padres have already sold more tickets than they did all of last season and they haven’t played a game at home yet.
C’mon Cravenhead…… Quit watching FOX News Conspiracy Hour
Since you brought politics into this CNN and MSNBC Why way more often than Fox News does and I don’t like Fox News
Maybe you should watch fox news. You might learn something.
Maddog that’s patently false. Not my opinion either, US courts have ruled on this. Fox lied so much they cannot be called “news” anymore.
El Rey that’s terrible advice.
Manfred will investigate this with as much tenacity as he did to see if the Dodgers tampered with Ohtani
OhOhtani
Falling on his sword to cover for Ohtani?
JACKPOT
It should be easy to look at the interpreter’s past lifestyle. If he was stealing and betting millions there will be a paper trail of other indicators that won’t exist if he is just taking the fall.
Keep in mind, these illicit sports bookmakers take bets on credit.
That’s fine, but give me a subpoena duces tecum for all of Ippea’s financial records and I will be able to draw a quick intelligent educated guess as to whether he is the high stakes gambler or if it is Shohei. Even more so with additional subpenas duces tecums for Shohei’s financial records. The paper trail will exist in one direction or the other.
The bookie will also be hit with a subpoena to produce his banking and other records as well if he hasn’t already. Its a federal investigation into a gambling ring that Ohtani is only a small part of.
Couldn’t we say, after all, that this is much ado about nothing??? Whether Shohei knowingly bailed out Ippei, or Ippei went beyond his purview and appropriated the funds unbeknownst to Shohei…either way Shohei was going to help his BFF out of his mess. No victim, no crime, right?
If he bailed him out its a felony and against the rules of baseball.
If he bet on other sports with an illegal bookie, which they all are in California, he broke the rules of baseball.
Either way, Ohtani is in deep poo. .
He used an illegal bookie (let’s say) only because he doesn’t live in one of the 40 states that allows legal sports betting. And again, the only victim here is Ohtani’s checking account. Okay so he broke MLB rules, but it’s up to the discretion of the Commissioner to levy any penalties. Ohtani is International Superstar Money-Maker Superhero. Commissioner will deem this “small potatoes, nothing to see here.” As he should.
“He used an illegal bookie (let’s say) only because he doesn’t live in one of the 40 states that allows legal sports betting.”
Not a great legal argument. I could not commit a crime because it was a crime in my state? really? Could someone in Texas use that logic to get an abortion in Texas…California provides abortions? Right?
If he paid the bookie its a felony and he has no excuse. He will also plea.
Commissioner better handle this and not just call it small potatoes since the FBI is now investigating.
How will it look if the Dodgers and MLB say “nothing to see” and then the FBI uncovers an illegal sports betting business that has Ohtani as a client?
Nope, this has legs and I would remind you ESPN and the NFL made a HUGE deal about Tom Brady and deflating footballs. That got a special counsel, Fed investigation, Congressional hearings and a trial in Fed Court.
That was TOM FREAKIN BRADY, Mr. Goat. Ohtani is in major trouble, and I bet you he already lawyered up, because they think its HUGE.
This could derail the Dodgers entire season. And they dont have angry Tom Brady to bring them to the World Series.
Nobody said this was any kind of “legal argument.” In fact Mizuhara has admitted point blank and was quoted right here (so you couldn’t possible have missed it) as saying he knows what he did was illegal. The FBI is on this because the bookie has been under investigation for several years. Nothing suggests that Ohtani was a client. We don’t know who is in trouble here except Mizuhara and probably the bookie. If you know of any evidence of anyone cheating on the game, then out with it. Something you might want to try instead of making a series of obviously untrue statements.
MLB Rule 21 (3)
Ohtani will be suspended for a minimum of 1 year and possibly for life if its found he either participated in the betting or made the payments that his interpreter originally said he made to cover his debts.
Either way, Ohtani is suspended.
That doesn’t even take into account that making those payments is a felony.
Going to be extremely had to prove that Ohtani DIDN’T participate in making the payments at a minimum.
As long as he didn’t bet on baseball, I don’t see how he will get seriously penalized for this. So what if he used a bookmaker to place his bets?—which probably only happened because he lives in a jurisdiction that hasn’t legalized sports gambling (yet.) Who was victimized here? The only thing victimized is his own checking account.
As the rule says, the minimum penalty is one year. Manfred cannot give him less.
That’s not the way I read the rule, but I will review it thnx.
He committed a felony. Probably multiple felonies. And he paid a bookie.
Making claims with zero evidence to back them up. It’s a thing these days.
This is hilarious
Sports gambling is illegal in CA, yet virtually everything else is legal. Maybe after they tax you there, there isn’t anything left to gamble so it’s a moot point
Well said.
What do you mean by “everything else”? What Fox News meme did I miss this week? Normally, the story is everything is ILLEGAL in Cali.
Marijuana
Shoplifting less than $900 worth of goods
Its illegal at any amount in California. Its not a FELONY until its over $900, Multiple arrests by an individual for the same crime or if part of a group that is caught stealing in an organized manner can still be prosecuted as a felony even if less than $900.
Pooping on the sidewalk
Also legal for a 24 year old to be inappropriate with a 14 year old long as you identify as a certain type of way .
That’s legal everywhere according to federal courts.
The only thing illegal in California is common sense.
Man the Faux News brigade is out today. The retirement home get its dial up going again? You realize all those anti-Cali (and anti-Chicago and anti-NYC) stories are completely made up and have purely political purposes, right?
“Everything I don’t agree with even though they’re right is fake news”
Uh no.
CA made it a misdemeanor if you steal less than $950 worth of goods. As a result many cities especially inner cities won’t even pursue charges cause nothing actually gets done when someone does 6 months max gets out and just keeps doing it again and again. It’s gotten so bad a new law is on the books for voting for 2024 that say you’ll get jail time (3 years and upwards) on your 3rd offense. THIRD OFFENSE. THATS how bad it’s gotten regarding the shoplifting. Certain businesses are pulling out in high crime rate areas closing their doors cause of it.
Idk about other cities but SDs own records show they spend 1 mill a year on cleaning up human feces on streets and other biohazard like needles and hygiene products
nbcsandiego.com/news/investigations/human-feces-ot…
Vertigo what’s the weather like in your bubble this time of year?
“Everything you see with your eyes and hear with your ears isn’t real. It’s all made up. Unless it supports my view points, then it’s real.”
I know its like they all get the same exact talking points about the current subject and then race to the boards to be the 137th person to state the same exact thing.
What i tell my non-California living friends and family when they spout these BS Fox News points is 1) you are being manipulated because they think you are stupid, and 2) NOBODY IN CALIFORNIA CARES!!!!
Stay in whatever hole in the mid west or the south you live in, my fellow Californians are fine with hanging out with the beautiful people in 75 degree weather every day.
Yes, California is terrible, please dont come. Please dont come to DisneyLand, please dont come for the Rose bowl, please stay in Iowa. We are fine here, keep watching Fox and Friends…they always need another fool.
I know you are the guy with ALL the answers but you think it might be bc its a misdemeanor and not a felony?
I know that requires knowledge of the criminal justice system, not what you were told to believe by Fox & Friends, but try and look up why that matters…
BTW, nobody is asking you to come to California, please stay in Arkansas. I hear its nice.
I am going to the beach after work and its 75 again.
You hate California bc you were told to hate California. SImple.
Your knowledge of California is impressive.
Too bad Pete Rose didn’t have an interpreter.
Only when playing home games in Montreal
Who’s more likely to be making Million dollar bets ? Guy who make 300k or guy who makes $70 mill ( before endorsements ) , just asking for curiosity?
Everyone with a brain knows it was Sho. Athletes are notorious gambling addicts.
I’m going with the guy making $300K. And, I also fully believe that he hacked into Ohtani’s personal account and transferred millions of Ohtani’s money to his own account and bookmaker.
Did you believe it? Yeah, neither did I.
OTOH, how much you want to bet that Ohtani is voted MVP again? Lol.
lol
MLB doesn’t want its best national marketing chip off the field. He’ll slide out of these if he listens to his attorney.
Bettor luck next time finding an interpreter, Shohei 🙂
Must be nice to have a fall guy on the payroll. Me thinks Ohtani not as innocent as portrayed. Something smells bad, and not just the normal Dodger stench.
Bro changed his story mad sus
There goes the golden boy reputation the Dodgers paid for.
How would the interpreter have access to Ohtani’s account in order to transfer the money? If he somehow transferred the money without Obtani’s consent then he’s also probably facing wire fraud as well. I think he’s taking the blame for Ohtani.
He’s conveniently already out of the country.
Hahahahha his beard lol most will not get that hahahahha this should Pete rose Showtime. But hey, he’s good for baseball so I’m sure his little buddy will take all the balls and the showtime team wont get a scratch.
Pete Rose angry he never needed an interpreter…
“ALL I HAD TO DO WAS HAVE SOMEONE ELSE DO IT FOR ME?!?!?”
Pete Rose, probably
Surely, we have not forgotten Pete’s roommate Thomas Gioiosa, who placed bets for Rose and also went to jail for tax evasion and cocaine dealing?
Will Shohei Rose-Tani get his contract voided like Bauer-san?
Leave Britney alone!
#FreeMikeTyson
I heard MLB was going to suspend Ohtani but instead he is going to “retire” and play in the NBA for a year as some sort of self-imposed suspension.
I hope his father is okay.
He’ll be back too win a title though 😉
3 if I’m not mistaken
But MJ is not …
Taking his talents to LeBron.
We call that the reverse Jordan
YES I see what you did there..Great Comment.
Would Ohtani get in trouble for wiring a bookie money? My guess would be yeah, and his boy is taking the fall since he paid off the 4.5 million. I would be surprised if Ohtani is a degenerate gambler but you never know. Definitely didn’t have that on my 2024 bingo card
My sense has always been that Ohtani’s public image is 100% manufactured, very diligently so by his very large team, and obsessed over, but that he’s actually kinda dumb and not very virtuous.
You could be right if so I do think the MLB will do everything they can to protect him. I honestly would like him more if it was true, but I’m a sports gambler
I’m no lawyer but money going from your account to an illegal bookie is illegal i would think. I wouldn’t matter if you were paying “for a friend”. 4.5M to a criminal organization is bad. Looks like they hid it well from the Angels or they overlooked it like the dealer on staff.
This too…shall be deferred.
Deferred prison sentence
Something not kosher here. Not adding up
This stinks of BS. Wonder how soon we gonna get the gambling scandal. Then again they got smart. The sport news journalist are involved too.
Why did ippei’s story all of a sudden change. Something doesn’t add up.
Ohtani is the new Pete Rose
One of you cynical rush to judgement clowns probably called in the bomb threat in Seoul
One thing we can be sure of: this story isn’t gonna die any time soon. Watching this unfold should be fascinating.
This will almost certainly be swept under the rug. Only thing I can see is if the feds themselves sought charges against Ohtani but I think even they would rather just let the interpreter take the fall.
Interpreter is on a plane heading to Toronto
Yep, Robert got him a seat on Dragon’s Den.
He was already in S Korea.
helk yeah
Gonna hear the South Park “Johnny Cochran” defense soon.
“And here’s Chewbacca…”
He should have made deferred payments on his bets 🙂
Taking the deferred payment might make it easier for LA to not pay. The Dodgers will have an easier path not paying future payments vs getting back bonuses already paid
Thank goodness Giants dodge this bullet
Oy.
On the other hand… I heard a talk show a month ago , guys were joking around about various sports topics , ippy came up, how he was like Shohei’s shadow. Went everywhere
, someone said probably makes a few mill at least. Another looked it up. They were shocked only 300k. They joked , didn’t know he was paid by team not Shohei. Said he might be resentful , sho gettin all that dough. So maybe so … he stole out of resentment. Just throwing out there
I dont think there is any league in the world worse at “gathering facts” than the MLB, so nothing will come of this, just like the rest of the scandals.
They’re fairly diligent at expending resources on such a thing when motivated to, as a certain former Dodger pitcher can attest.
I suspect they may not be as motivated this go ’round.
Manfred has to be going nuts. It’s possible that his golden goose just laid a smelly egg.
Well my my my …
All you had to do was not do this in California
It’s actually illegal by federal tax law too, unless the gift was declared as such and a gift tax paid.
You bet against the Globetrotters!?
I THOUGHT THE GENERALS WERE DUE!
While Ohtani serves his 324 game suspension , night as well sign the previously railroaded Bauer.
YES BRUTHUR
Bauer admitted to breaking MLB Domestic Violence policy. He wasn’t railroaded.
If nothing happens to Ohtani then Pete Rose needs to be reinstated and placed in the HOF immediately. I am not buying this story.
This story reeks more than Tim Lincecum’s bong water
Haha that bong water comment got me good
Right. So, those of you believing Otani would risk his career, not to mention endure the shame of everyone in Japan, not the least of which are his immediate family, forfeit his contract, and all that for the chance to parlay a few bucks on betting? One, you really don’t understand Japanese society and two, you’re nuts.
Wanna bet?
Try again if 1) you just culture shocked from Japan to US 2) you just became a global superstar 3) you’re adjusting to money unlike you’ve ever seen before and 4) you’re sort of dumb
That’s not very convincing. You think Pete Rose had nothing to lose? Or that there are no gambling addicts in Japan?
Unfortunately, the choice at hand is “stupid or liar”.
I don’t think the guy is stupid, so, this don’t look swell.
Really, the same general argument applies to PED users. Why do they risk everything? We can speculate, but who knows…
Perhaps Ohtani was truly trying to help his interpreter out – the problem is: if your friend kills someone and you give him a ride to or from, you’re also guilty – regardless of intentionality, he aided his interpreter in criminal activity {allegedly}.
You don’t understand compulsive gambling and the grip it has.
Ah, but I do understand that.
I wouldn’t say his is guilty or innocent based on “Japanese society”. That’s such a weird statement. Individuals act as they will. They may be influenced by the culture around them, but they are not mindless drones that all act and do the same things. If he is telling the truth and his interpreter was doing all of this, he was also in a position with a lot to lose and did it anyway.
Couldn’t we say, after all, that this is much ado about nothing??? Whether Shohei knowingly bailed out Ippei, or Ippei went beyond his purview and appropriated the funds unbeknownst to Shohei…either way Shohei was going to help his BFF out of his mess. No victim, no crime, right?
Someone still participated in an illegal gambling ring to the tune of 4.5M. That’s a crime.
for posting that 3 times, you have to go listen to Moonlight On Vermont
That’s awesome, I totally am going to crank it up right now. Sorry about that, I was feeling over-exuberant for a sec.
Boy he bet on baseballs he will be done in America
I’m still stuck at the $ 4.5 million part of the article. Jeez! He was rock star in Anaheim. Both of them were inseparable. He even pitched to Shohei in Colorado for the Hr hitting contest at the 2022 All-Star Game. How he was even able to accumulate that much money to be liable for $ 4.5 million in losses. There has to be more to this story.
Yea he was covering for Otani.. seems pretty obvious
Endorsements
Pete Rose can’t be in the Hall of Fame, but baseball games can now be wagered upon ? It all just stinks to high heaven, how many games are being thrown ?
No wonder the Angels have been so bad all these years!
Pete has paid for his sins. Let the Hit King in. Baseball has sold a major portion of itself to DraftKings, FanDuel, MGM and now ESPN Bet. The gambling element of the game being used for profit by MLB is beyond the hypocracy that stands in the way of Pete Rose joining the HOF.
Trout
I might agree with you on Rose except for the allegations that he slept with an underage girl. Rose claimed in court filings that when he was married, 34, with two kids that he slept with the girl, but believed that she was 16. Because of the then-statute of limitations, Rose could not be charged with a crime. Not HOF material IMHO.
The Hall of Fame is about what you did on the baseball field It’s really weird that people like you want to base it off moral objections. As a matter of fact I bet you’re morally in superior to a lot of people who think Pete Rose should be the whole thing I’m just saying
You equate the statutory rape of an underage girl by a married father of two in his mid-30s to “moral objections”?
I agree that we think differently on this matter.
Well you just outed yourself.
The HOF gives instructions to voters and 3 of them are related to character and morals. They don’t agree with your claim.
Could it be that Ippei is taking the fall for Ohtani? It is very possible that it’s Shohei Ohtani who owes the $ 4.5 million,and whenever there is smoke, there usually is fire, meaning Ohtani might owe a lot more. This should open an Empire State Building Can of Worms or better yet a floodgate release of the Hoover and Glen Canyon Dams combined. Could Ohtani end up as a footnote in baseball lore like Shoeless Joe and the Chicago Eight, former players from the Louisville Grays, Hal Chase, Heinie Zimmerman, and sadly, Pete Rose?
A week ago the girlfriend could’ve been forced to tell all she knows , now the wife can’t be forced to peep.
Just saying
^This
There’s a lot of damage control being done here.
Remember: All criminals lie.
50/50 chance ohtani is the 1 who did the gambling
$4mil – all from shohei’s bank acct
gambling’s illegal in california so he asks his friend/interpreter to take the fall
I’m taking the OVER.
Next on MLB network presented by Fan Duel, we discuss the breaking Ohtani story
Like a worried parent who knows their child has a gambling problem, the Dodgers said – ‘Shohei, you can have the rest of it when you grow up and have learned how to look after your money.’
What’s even more crazy is that he was ready to fly to Toronto but the coin flip came up ‘tails’.
Wonderin if Ippei is just the (highly paid) fall guy for Ohtani’s “sins”??? Gotta protect the “brand” after all…
Heard Shohei asked B Bonds , how do I handle this when the story breaks , … Bonds … got a good pal who’ll go to jail for ya ?”
if its true ohtani was the gambler
mlb will do everything it can to hide the truth and keep him safe from legal repercussions
he is the face of baseball
mr. $700 million
they probly will pay off the interpreter to take the fall, go to jail, etc.
Exactly. Just like the NBA did with Jordans gambling. Sweep it under the rug. Next thing you know Ohtani will quit baseball to pursue his “lifelong dream” of playing on the pro golf tour.
Could it be that that this story was conjured up by Dodgers owner Mark Walter, CEO Stan Kasten and an All-Star team of Lawyers? This story smells very much like Sushi.
If so, it’s a pretty lousy effort given the story has already had to change once.
Sushi throughout the world are duly offended by the comp.
Yeah, pretty fishy analogy.
Yo Troutahni are you eating gas station sushi bro?
Would a bookie allow a customer that makes $300k-$500k per year rack up $4.5 million in debts?
How did Shohei’s financial advisor overlook multiple $500k transfers?
Why/how does Ippei have access to Shohei’s banking info?
Big time congrats ver up
So did odds on Dodgers winning the WS just take a hit?
That’s how I’m interpreting it
I’m betting that their odds go down substantially if Ohtani is out in administrative leave, pending the outcome of the investigation.
But, my gut says MLB will take a different route in this one….
MLB statement: “Ohtani,what a guy, drops 4 extra large for a friend. Like a good neighbor, Shohei is there.” Hence forward, National Shohei Day at all MLB ballparks.
Actually, the adversity might light a fire under them
I do not rule out Shohei blaming the interpreter but choosing to resign from MLB – and then the truth will only come out if federal prosecutors pursue it
Blue Jays obviously neglected to mention sports betting is legal in Ontario
Someone should start a GoFundMe to gift Rob Manfred a giant rug to sweep this under.
This story has more holes than Chris Taylor’s swing. With ever changing details and no explanation how a team employee got access to a player’s personal bank account, all while his financial team apparently had no idea? Maybe it was the girlfriend/fiancee/wife who magically appeared out of thin air…
The Chris Taylor shot made me legit LOL
Rsox
In Chris Taylor’s defense, I will edit your post to say:
“This story has a bigger hole than Jake Cronenwerth’s glove.”
There, fixed it for you.
That’s Cronenworth with an “o” for “worth”.
But, funny.
The $80 million dollar “non-optimal extension given the rest of the infield” made up for it today with his bat at least.
Ban him for life, Ohtani that is.
Someone told Shohei Ohtani he would grow up to be just like Pete Rose.
The man took it serious.
like cris carter said: always have a fall guy!
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Close the book on ’em like Ohtani’s books.
This is the biggest story of any baseball season ever, just coming after it started too ! Illegal gambling, light contract to alleged player involved, this is HUGE ! Corruption on this scale, and how will baseball cover it up as the season plays along ?
Maybe Shohei knew he has a partial UCL tear last season, so he gave Ippei some fun money to bet against the Angels, while he pitched hurt just to receive a lavish payday from the bookie. Some aspiring journalist out there should try to recover some of the receipts from the Fed and match the tickets to the box and line scores looking for unusual questionable activity. How can any of us restore our faith in the system knowing that this could be going on without any MLB investigations? It took a federal investigation to moonlight this potentially unscrupulous violation of Major League Baseball’s ultimate rule. Every clubhouse in MLB has a sign on the wall that states that any form of gambling is strictly forbidden
He’s down 4.5 million.
If he was betting against the Angels he’d be up, your speculation makes no sense
Not necessarily. I wouldn’t be surprised if some foreign brand endorsement checks are actually related to gambling.
I agree with what Dusty said
They don’t mention cash flowing the other way. It’s not like he would lose all his bets.
I really wish websites did not have comment sections.
It is like a car wreck, you are conditioned to look
A fan told Ohtani, “I bet on you to be league MVP”.
Ohtani replied, “So did I”.
… but he’s down 4.5 mil
Ok, this one was just a joke
Day late and a dollar short once again MLBTR. Pretty lazy reporting. This thing is blowing up and this is all you got?
Yeah, these guys might be getting money from Manfred. But seriously.
What were you looking for, wild speculation?
Nah. We’ll leave the wild speculation to the comments section Tim.
Rumors are a form of speculation. But I hear you, Tim…why create liability unnecessarily.
The form matters. Do you want MLBTR, or MLBWTR?
Gotta know your limits when it comes to gambling.
I hold the line at $4.4MM.
@LordD99 Damn! Still high…..I had to cut back to 4 million……
“News strikes today that Shohei Ohtani’s interpreter has been fired for illegal sports betting…..now watch these ads from our sponsors at draft kings, Ketel One vodka, and Evan Williams Kentucky Bourbon Whiskey….remember to play responsibly.”
Meh… I’ll just continue playing my kid-friendly solitaire app where the ad from my other game says I’ll earn $1K by playing 5 minutes of it.
This smells like the SBD some jerk drops on the bus or in church, when nobody can move, and the cloud settles and sticks like a thick london fog, with no hope of fresh air for the next hour. That’s what it will be like for the next 6 months as this story develops and takes a big nasty dump on Mlb and everyone who pays attention to it.
speculating… ohtani was betting on the Angels to win.
Lmao
Yes. Could explain why he had nothing but betting losses.
Beyond the red flags with this story, it’s downright hypocritical of how far in to bed the MLB has gotten with sports betting companies but want to enforce no betting.
What did they think was going to happen when they cram betting down everyone’s throat ?
mlb is free to make craptons of money off of a crippling addiction on one condition: allow pete rose into the hall of fame
This modern day scandal, as we’ve all been sick of the black sox story for years, but this one HUGE ! Baseball with a potential scale of corruption as a season starts will engulf it all.
I always wonder when people will learn there’s this thing called the stock market that it essentially the same thing as sports betting and your chances of success are much better, tho it lacks some of the excitement. Perhaps those that like gambling should try it, sorta like trying to stop chewing tobacco with a dusty baker toothpic.
Like shorting the housing market, just dont try it when fannie mae’s watching…..
In an odd move, Ohtani has hired Pete Rose as his new spokesperson.
The pitcher doth protest too much
Reading through this sniffs a lot like politicians doing insider trading. In the end someone will be a fall guy like the whole Cardinals hacking into the Astros database. Swept under the rug
First, I don’t believe for a second that Ohtani gambles.
My biggest concern is that Obtani’s lawyers and Ippei said Ohtani agreed to pay off all or some of Ippei’s debts. That might make him some kind of accessory but come on, the guy was just trying to bail out a friend. There’s no criminal intent. But that might be why the lawyer and Ippei walked things back when someone advised them of the legal risk to Ohtani.
Now, it might be equally true that Ippei DID also steal from Ohtani. Does anyone believe he a. Rued 4.5 million in gambling debts without putting significant money down – nitialy or intermittently?
It doesnt take intent to be convicted of a crime.
Ohtani is under investigation. Let’s see how his play starts to suffer.
Bookies are not stupid. They are not letting a guy get in debt that much when he doesn’t have the income. Ippei didn’t make much until this year when he got a raise to $300k from the Dodgers.
There is no way these bets that resulted in $4.5 million in losses in 3-4 years, were rung up by a guy getting paid less than $100k by the Angels.
Here is my current guess.
Ohtani never gambled – on baseball or otherwise.
Ohtani did loan Ippei money by paying off some of his gambling debt. But the flip-flop statements on that is because someone realized – too late – Ohtani might have legal. But come on, you going to nail a guy for bailing out his friend?! File this under: no good deed goes unpunished.
But it is also true that Ippei stole money from Ohtani. I don’t believe for one second that a guy can build up 4.5 million in debt on credit alone. No, during the process a lot of money was used – and that money was probabaly stolen from Ohtani by Ippei during the “I can bet my way out of a hole” period.
I wish that your scenario becomes the most believable as this saga unfolds. At the moment ..
The legal issue would probably be whether Ohtani is an accessory after the fact for paying illegal gambling debts. I don’t think it likely, but that’s probably what the fear is
The legal issue would be whether Ohtani himself was making the bets which is likely. Bookies don’t let flunkies like Ippei get $4.5 million upside down. Not even $500k upside down.
Bookies are not stupid. They are not letting a guy get in debt that much when he doesn’t have the income. Ippei didn’t make much until this year when he got a raise to $300k from the Dodgers.
There is no way these bets that resulted in $4.5 million in losses in 3-4 years, were rung up by a guy getting paid less than $100k by the Angels.
Which brings up the issue of a player who spends his whole life in a major league baseball clubhouse and bench owing a bookie four million dollars lol. What could go wrong!
Also, if Ohtani was just a nice guy who decided he was going to pay this huge debt off he still committed wire fraud by sending an illegal bookmaker 4 million via his own personal computer. Pretty sure that’s a federal crime, no?
Indeed.
Baseball, the crookedest game in town. Little league’s everywhere burning their Shohei merchandise the new face of baseball corruption. How long have they been covering this up ? Black mark ? The biggest black mark in baseballs history. Drone on Ken Burns, and that other goof ball Bob Costas.
“I bet you 10 bucks I can get you to bet by the end of the day”
“No. I don’t bet”
Can’t repeat the next line on here”
“I’ll give you 3 to 1 odds”
“No”
“5 to 1”
No
“10 to 1 odcd?”
“Okay”
“I’m gonna get you. I don’t know how how but I’m gonna get you”
“Na uh”
-Lloyd Christmas and Harry Dunne
How is my comment a fail?
Even ESPN has a sports betting platform now. Draft Kings sponsors everything. A dude stood by his buddy during a huge life mistake and everyone is losing their collective minds. I swear our planet is one step closer to idiocracy every day. If he lived 4 hours away in Vegas no one would give a damn.
The Pete Rose comps here are pretty funny and to think Ohtani is stupid enough to risk it all to bet on baseball is even funnier.
If they hadn’t suddenly done a 180 and denied that was the case, you’d have a point.
If this is as innocent as you imagine, he should have been more forthright about it. He should’ve told his agent ans lawyer to speak to Manfred about ii.
Like I said to someone else, you remind me the Tatis fans claiming he was just trying to cure ringworm.
If you actually think Ohtani was betting on college football then you fit right into my idocracy comment.
I agree he should have asked a financial expert on how to help Ippei, but Ohtani probably had no idea it was illegal gambling because its advertised everywhere and he isnt from the USA. You guys are legit crazy to think a dude who is about to get married, playing professional baseball, has no track record of these types of vices, and is about to sign a contract over 500 million… would be like, hey between games, why dont I randomly call shady bookies and bet on some international soccer and college football.
Gotta think his walk up song is gonna be the gambler by Kenny rogers now.
Gotta know when to hold ‘em…know when to fold ‘em.
If you believe this was the interpreter, I’ve got a ravine to sell you…
ohtani is DIRTY!
We all know that Ohtani actually did vouch for his friend Ippei. What Ippei or Ohtani did not know at the initial confession was that his bet was illegal. That’s why Ippei turned 180 degree and said Ohtani has nothing to do with it I’m the one who stole his money from his bank account.
Excelent point. Thefts are almost never committed in any other states. Since 1776 there have only been 7 known thefts in all states other than California. Whereas CA averages 10 billion thefts per second. Thanks for being a real patriot truth speaker degrom/langford
They certainly never said that drama queen
Crime is up FAR more in small conservative towns in the South than it is in California. Including theft.
Source?
Because California decriminalized everything… if it’s not against the law it’s not a crime.
Dude, trust me bro.
As 28 rings said
Make it not a crime then nobody is committing crimes.
Degromlangford needs to get off Tucker Carlsons balls
Making liberal use of the mute feature. BuhBye to all you freeloaders. You’ve turned this site into just another unregulated SNS site.
Something doesn’t smell right about this. A friend and interpretor has access to Ohtani’s bank account to the extent that he can transfer $4.5 million over 3 years without the bank flagging it or Ohtani even knowing about it? Give me a break.
MLB needs to take a much deeper look into this. Obviously law enforcement will. We definitely haven’t heard the last of this in regards to Ohtani’s involvement.
I thought Shohei knowingly paid off Ippei’s gambling debt. But then the story changed, I guess. The first version of the story made sense. But the whitewashed version, that it was a theft, does not make sense.
The story was changed, in my opinion, because if Ohtani knowingly transferred money to the debters no matter the intention, he’d now be responsible to some extent and could face consequences.
To me it seems the original story was more than likely the truer version but now they are changing it to cover his bases, pun intended.
content.mlb.com/documents/8/2/2/296982822/Major_Le…
This pretty much says it all
(3) Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee who places bets with illegal book makers,
or agents for illegal book makers, shall be subject to such penalty as the Commissioner deems
appropriate in light of the facts and circumstances of the conduct. Any player, umpire, or Club or League
official or employee who operates or works for an illegal bookmaking business shall be subject to a
minimum of a one-year suspension by the Commissioner. For purposes of this provision, an illegal
bookmaker is an individual who accepts, places or handles wagers on sporting events from members of
the public as part of a gaming operation that is unlawful in the jurisdiction in which the bets are
accepted.
Ippei had to try take the fall or Ohtani is out of baseball permanently.
Do you think this is over with a federal investigation going on about the gambling ring?
If Shohei wasn’t betting on baseball, who cares?? Ippei said he bet on everything but baseball.
Its illegal. It doesn’t matter what he bet on.
The original story would have Ohtani receiving some federal felonies.
That the problem. No one really believes Ippei was doing the gambling.
MLB Rule 21 (3)
(3) Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee who places bets with illegal book makers, or agents for illegal book makers, shall be subject to such penalty as the Commissioner deems
appropriate in light of the facts and circumstances of the conduct. Any player, umpire, or Club or League official or employee who operates or works for an illegal bookmaking business shall be subject to a
minimum of a one-year suspension by the Commissioner. For purposes of this provision, an illegal bookmaker is an individual who accepts, places or handles wagers on sporting events from members of the public as part of a gaming operation that is unlawful in the jurisdiction in which the bets are accepted.
The key part here is “shall be subject to such penalty as the Commissioner deems appropriate in light of the facts and circumstances of the conduct.” The Commissioner is going to deem this all a small potatoes nothing-burger because the alleged violation wouldn’t have been a violation in 40 other states and because it’s up to their discretion which hinges on Shohei’s International Superstar status, i.e. he brings in the bucks. Also, no victim, no crime.
The key words are “shall be subject to a minimum of a one-year suspension by the Commissioner”.
Ohtani cannot be suspended for less than that time period. He could be suspended for as long as the commissioner deems appropriate, but in no case less than 1 year.
Because its considered such a serious offense, its not up to the commissioner’s discretion.
1 year is definitely is not a “nothing-burger”.
The FBI is investigating this, so that would indicate its not a “nothing burger”. Its part of an investigation into a federal crime.
But I read it as the automatic suspension is only if the player “operates or works for an illegal bookmaking business” then they “shall be subject to a
minimum of a one-year suspension.” From what we know, Ippei/Ohtani neither operated or worked for the illegal bookie…just waged bets with the entity.
Solicit a prostitute or buy drugs or use fireworks in states where it’s not legal. No victim, still a crime.
I won’t say it’s the same as Pete Rose until it’s proven he bet on games he participated in.
Knowledge of gambling and not reporting it promptly has Buck Weaver banned since 1919. There’s precedent. Something has to give.
Some of the problems back then was the vast difference in pay now and then. 1919 a relative small amount like $500 could fix games. Could you imagine major leaguers being bribed with say 10k these days?
I don’t know why MLB is mad. They own part of Draft Kings and MLB network literally has shows dedicated to betting. MLB is neck deep in the gambling industry.
“Do as I say not as I do!”
I don’t think we might want to know if baseball uses the 3rd party to boost their own revenue.
This seems like a play for some gangster thugs to own part of Ohtani and his money. Happens to all the giant “Icons” in all entertainment and sports.
Ohtani seeking asylum in Korea..
$4 million says there’s a hole in Cronenworth’s glove.
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Gambling? Why can’t people ruin their lives with sex and drugs like the old days?
“Gambling is a disease. But. It’s the only disease where you can win lots of money.” – Norm McDonald
“What do you think of the report that stated your interpreter stole money from you Ohtani?”
“Ohtani’s interpreter never stole anything from him” – Ohtani, through interpreter
Say it ain’t so Sho!
I genuinely doubt someone (Ohtani) who left millions on the table and came to the US to prove he was the best in baseball, who took deferred installments in his contract to win a Championship, in baseball, cares to bet much less think of any sport other than baseball. In a lot of cases nowadays the truth is manipulated but it seems here the original story is more than likely true.
Yes it would be the first time that someone who had a lot to lose did the one thing that would cause them to lose it all.
Point noted.
It seems the change in the story was to absolve Ohtani of any involvement with the gambling ring and from the available information, it seems his only involvement was paying off his interpreters debt (allegedly) but even just that could cause some legal issues. We’ll all find out the truth together I suppose…
The “truth”
You can Google the names of top-level athletes that have gambling problems. Being a good athlete doesn’t make you any more immune than being a bad athlete.
The minimal first story is much more than Buck Weaver committed. He’s been banned since 1920
The truth may never come out. As it stands it is unlikely that the interpreter “stole” the money. I actually don’t have a lot of issues if Shohei Ohtani actually did pay his gambling debts. Yes it looks bad but it’s better than letting your friend get whacked.
It’s actually conspiracy, a pretty serious felony in Cali, as elsewhere. Or accessory after the fact (like driving the getaway car). Which depends on when it happened.
If Shohei did indeed pay his interpreter/friend’s gambling debts he did so for good reason whether it was a crime or not. If he did, then he will pay the penalty for his decision. At least his friend is alive though.
If his friend had any honor he would follow the Bushido code.
Do you mean Seppuku?!?!
Yup…that would be the end result and I do mean end.
:-0 harsh!
You go to the Dodgers not pay it off.
That was only for samurai.
Petehei Rohtani makes bets, but Manfraud won’t do anything because MLB has invested too much in him.
Watch Ohtani’s contract get voided.
I’m not understanding the logic with some people on here saying that they hate the Dodgers because of this. For one, the Dodgers had no knowledge that this was happening. Second, other organizations have done much worse. The Astros were caught cheating not so long ago. But, an interpreter’s gambling problem is where you draw the line?
Deferred Payments Dodgers are literally abusing MLB loopholes. They’re the laughing stock of baseball
Fans of losing teams hate winners. If a losing team cheats, nobody cares. If a losing team has a crooked interpreter, nobody cares. Capeesh?
STOP with the Pete Rose in the HOF crap! He bet on baseball while he was a manager of a MLB team for crying out loud! He knew it was wrong but I guess didn’t think rules applied to him. My hope is this Ohtani thing is aggressively investigated by MLB to find out what really happened but not confident that will happen.
MLB players can’t bet on baseball either. Ohtani is trash and will be banned for life
Otani is not trash and neither is Pete Rose. Humans make mistakes, and they should be held accountable. We don’t know what Shohei has or hasn’t done yet so just chill baby.
Woke up people!
Not even close. I’m a conservative. I’m also a Christian
So after playing in MLB for 7 years and living in an English speaking country most of that time why does Ohtani still need an interpreter???
Uh, because he speaks Japanese and is learning English? What do I win?
7 years is more than enough time to learn english if you care try even a little ask ANY 7 year old.
@Pool hall Read up on the subject and find out how wrong you are!
Honestly i dont need to ..ive known several adults who spoke zero english and picked up enough in months to at least get by without a full time interpretor…because they tried..maybe its harder on average but i simply dont accept someone like ohtani not being able to learn in that time if he tried
Missionaries learn enough of a foreign language to be immersed in the society in just a few weeks.
@Pads fans, won’t allow me to reply to you, guessing you’ve blocked me for some reason.
Try teaching yourself 2nd language as an adult. Promise you it takes longer than a few weeks.
But after 7 years the man should be at least conversational to understand what’s happening in English.
I am not sure what type of missionaries he is talking about so I will speak from my knowledge. My brother-in-law and his wife were called on a mission by their church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They were given 12 weeks of training of which 8 weeks was language training in Swahili and then sent to Kenya for 3 years to teach the gospel.
I picked up a Spanish language program from Rosetta Stone when I was assigned to scouting the Southwest in my late 40s. In 3 weeks of using the program 30 minutes a day I could carry on a basic conversation. In 3 years I was fairly fluent.
Adults can learn new languages. Look at the ads for Babbel that promise you will be conversational in a new language in 3 weeks.
After 7 years of immersion in a culture that speaks English, there is no excuse for not being able to carry on a conversation in the language.
Ohtani should be banned from baseball immediately. Nobody believes that his translator has access to his bank accounts. This is an actual joke.
This is the USA. He gets due process.
Not according to the Colorado “Supreme” court…
I guess state’s rights are only important when it’s convenient for your arguments
MLB doesn’t have to follow that (I still can’t believe the players agreed to give MLB carte blanche on this). Just look at the Bauer situation.
What if he just paid the debt for a friend?
It would mean he had knowledge of illegal activity and covered it up. Aiding and abetting (no pun) for starters, conspiracy,etc.
@John Bird Depending on how he went about it, it would remain to be proven that Ohtani had actionable knowledge of illegality.
Blatant example: J runs to Ohtani, says “I got myself in real trouble, can you wire $500,000 to this guy?”
Ohtani: “Dang. Okay. Where do I send it?”
J: “It’s called ABC Enterprises.”
Ohtani: “Done. Don’t do it again, whatever it was!”
If that’s about the extent of his involvement, a jury could easily find the genial Ohtani innocent of criminal intent.
—–Obviously there will be more to it, but that’s the idea.
@JackStrawb.Sounds pretty naive. If my friend made that kind of request I would want to know what the money is for.
@John Bird Agreed. It’s extremely naive. I’m not recommending this but it doesn’t even have to be true, it just has to be credible to a jury.
The burden of proof would remain with the state during trial. Can they show mens rea, a guilty mind, in Ohtani’s case? So far (though it’s early) there doesn’t seem to be anything Ohtani did that by definition, by statute, makes him criminally guilty.
@JackStraub. The real question could be is either of them willing to commit perjury to the FBI.
NINE times?
You’re not friends with someone since before 2017 and not know they have a gamboling problem. (Especially a translator who is continually shadowing you). I call BS
One that is with you pretty much 24/7.
I guess this would explain why he ‘just wanted to win’ with the Dodgers. Sounds like he wanted to win in other sports too.
It’s not hard to imagine a situation where the line is Angels vs Oakland and a prop bet of O/U 2 hits for Ohtani. Go bet $2 mil on the under and Ohtani strikes out intentionally. Not saying this happened, but you would only need to do this 2-3 times a year to make ridiculous money. Muddy water
It definitely isn’t what happened…this was $4.5m in losses, not winnings.
What a pile of hypocritical BS.
Gladly taking money from betting companies with both hands across all sports while preaching sanctimoniously from the pulpit of virtue about the evils of gambling.
I know, I know…. gamble, drink, snort and handle firearms responsibly. But keep giving us your goddam money, peon!
And MOVING a team to Vegas under lousy circumstances. This is WHY mlb integrity is important. If baseball owners were wise they’d can Manfred and sick the dogs
I guess he really is the Michael Jordan of baseball
Jordan was betting after he left the game. Ohtani probably bet on the Washington generals as a player.
Who BETTS OHTANI WILL be a FREEMAN or OUTMAN?
I am worried about you.
I have complete confidence is our department of justice and judicial system to get to the truth….. oh wait. Never-mind.
The FBI is squeezing that orange county bookie as we speak probably.
Ohtanigate and now Yamamoto begins his MLB career with a 45.00 ERA, pulled after one inning and 43 pitches. How’s that Billion Bucks gamble workin’ out for ya, Dodger$?!
I hope you are wrong and he was just helping a friend..anything else would be terrible for baseball and anyone “hoping” hes guilty of anything should think twice about what is really important
Why do you wish that on his friend? If he is guilty of gambling he should get permanent suspension. Maybe he can join Bauer in Japan or Mexico..
atomic …Sure.. “IF”..the point i was trying make was why would any “hope” another person wss guilty of anything? That is just horrible to hope bad things for people…but i think you knew that and are just trolling
Something smells
Shohie can’t be this dumb he is involved
Agreed…also his Marriage looked fake as hell too. Crafted to improve his image.
True but for a different reason, your spouse can’t be compelled to testify
I had one of my Japanese friends tell me his boss won $1M in LV in his last trip, meaning that he probably had $1M on the table. When he saw my expression, he switched it to 1M yen, but I knew that wouldn’t even cover the airfare.
Some of those dudes love to gamble.
There is no way Manfred is going to ban his golden goose. All of Japan is now watching MLB games regularly because of him. If he didn’t punish the Asterisks, he isn’t going to punish Ohtani. This isn’t like Pete Rose, MLB is worth way way more than it was in the 80s. And on top of that Ohtani is in his prime, Rose wasn’t even playing anymore. It is more likely he pulls a Michael Jordan and it’s a silent one-year ban where he goes to play baseball in Japan to be closer to his “wife’s family”.
It’s also not the 1970s when things were easily swept under the rug, and when sports journalists would ignore certain stories for the good of the game. Some of today’s writers will write a 500-word diatribe just to get some publicity.
Baseball was about 4 times a popular in the 80’s.
Who cares its 2024 and this guy is arguably one of the most recognizable sports figures on the planet.
Nope.
baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/misc.shtml
Not one single season in the 1980’s had attendance as high as 2023. Overall live game viewership between TV and streaming was an all-time high in 2023. There were 63 million subscribers to MLB.tv worldwide in 2023.
Want to try again?
The Astros weren’t punished? Come on man.
Panic at Chavez Ravine! – the 2024 Dodger$
Coming soon to a theater near you
Yamamoto got rocked too! That’s $1Billion dollar investment that just tanked in 1 day!
And co-starring Max Muncy as the 3rd baseman who can’t play 3rd base! Two errors and one that he should’ve gotten to. Heyward misplays a ball, and Outman couldn’t make the out, man. This is going to be a fun season!
Ohtani went from being the Japanese Babe Ruth to the Japanese Pete Rose
LMAO at all the Ohtani haters on here accusing him of things that haven’t been proven. You all are just spurned lovers who we be on here defending him to the hilt if he had chosen your team. The hypocrisy is thick in here…
Best case scenario Ohtani is a bonehead and guilty of gross negligence with his finances. Worst Case…..well
You’re new to sports fandom I see.
Even if Ohtani played for my Padres, I would have to concede this story does not line up with observed reality (that every single facet of Ohtani’s life is managed to the nth degree), and it looks a whole lot like Ohtani’s interpreter is taking a fall for behavior Ohtani engaged in.
I don’t know for sure. Manfred will likely go out of his way to ensure no one ever knows for sure. But, it’s bad all around.
So it’s better to go with assumptions and conspiracy theories than facts, gotcha. smh
@grnmtnyeti I just said I don’t know for sure what’s happened. It’s just what it looks like.
I don’t know what else you want from me, but I encourage you to learn how to read.
“Manfred will likely go out of his way to ensure no one ever knows for sure.“ = an assumption about a possible conspiracy theory
You should pay attention to how you phrase things.
You are out of line with your entire POV. I’m sure most people are willing to let the investigation takes its course.
But any assumption that there is nothing to investigate is pretty far afield.
Joe – Without question there’s a lot of contradictions, especially going from “I paid off his debts to help him out” to “He stole millions from me”.
I am very doubtful anything will come of it with regard to LE or MLB, but I am curious if he loses any endorsement deals because of it.
@Joe Please show me where I assumed there is nothing to investigate and I’ll gladly accept it.
All I stated is basically that people are jumping to conclusions and making up conspiracy theories.
here’s a fact: before abruptly changing their story, ohtani’s reps revealed that ohtani had committed a federal crime
This is a FEDERAL investigation so the MLB won’t be able to just sweep it away…If it is confirmed that any of the bets made were on Baseball and Otanhi had ANY knowledge of it…he is so screwed.
Rubbish. You sound like one of those Padres fans defending Tatis for innocent use of a ringworm ointment. He could be completely innocent, but the anomalies are staggering.
1-It’s been going on since 2021. Okay, let me know how many illegal bookies let someone run up a $4.5M tab over three years.
2-We still don’t know for certain who authorized the wires. Only the absolute worst security would not require dual authorization and other security measures. All my accounts require text verifications, and I get notified for all transactions exceeding $xxx.
3-When were the wires made? If these were made during the baseball season, an explanation will be needed as to what they were paying off. If you make the wire in Jan/Feb, I’ll buy it was for the SB, b-ball, etc. If you make the wire in July, then you’ll have to convince me that you wanted a $100k bet on a soccer game.
I am hoping that this is just a clumsy attempt to cover up some gambling debts, but it would be ridiculous to take Ohtani’s word for this.
@Joe may the gods help the poor person that has you on their jury.
The Tatis situation is completely irrelevant to this one.
You mean you are a Dodger fan who is supporting another criminal?
WOOPS!
Does that fit the profile of most Dodger fans?
SAY IT AINT SO SHO…
I predicted a 4.50 ERA for Yamamoto…
I just had the decimal point wrong…
It’s 45.00 ERA….
Good Luck Dodger Millionaires…
Or..
The Hollywood Squares…
And if the season didn’t have another 160 games to play, you’d be correct.
Players should be able to bet legally on sports they don’t play. It’s an archaic law. However, illegal betting is illegal betting. This was illegal.
they can
Halo. Are you sure? I was not aware of that. I am old enough to remember Mantle and Mays being barred from baseball because they worked for a casino.
You’re right Halo, I just looked it up. This whole thing just doesn’t make sense.
It’s not legal in Ca.
1984. True, he went through an illegal sports book.
this wasn’t specified in that post as responded to
Ohtani leads the league in WHIP:
Wages
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Interpreter
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brilliant. fistbump
Blue Baron for the GD win!!!!
honestly I just wanna know how the Padres can afford to fly their radio guys to Korea for the games but the Dodgers couldn’t afford to fly their radio guys over there… the Dodgers made their radio guys stay home and work from LA…
MLB needs to be investigated itself but there is simply nobody in government that is clean enough with any power whatsoever to clean up the mess. MLB got in bed with organized crime before most of us were born. Corruption is the norm in our society. That’s my two cents worth
@THEY LIVE!!! When you have too much time on your hands, a good unfounded accusation or three will make it fly by.
Well, in more ways than one, Ohtani is no longer an Angel. I am curious why MLB.com shows no mention of this story. Not surprised, but curious.
It’s what the story should be is my point. Ohtani’s lawyers had to do a 180 to protect their client, but the dude isnt going to press charges against Ippei.
Sounds like the interpreter is the fall guy.
The bigger you get the more that people want to take you down. That’s the American way. Easy to get to the top. Harder to stay there. Look at the greats: Tiger Woods, Magic Johnson, Babe Ruth, Barry Bonds, Tom Brady. America loves tearing down stars. Wait for the facts – whoops, it’s America. That is why people arrested make news – people acquitted don’t.
how about O.J.?
If the glove doesn’t fit you must acquit. What about Tiger Woods. He certainly has plenty of scandal.
Well, TBH most of the people you cited were their own worst enemies and made some really bad choices. Also, I think the American population understands that oftentimes star power and/or money creates a large disparity in how they are treated versus an average American.
This sounds more like blackmail than embezzlement of funds. The truth may be far worse than what they’re feeding us.
I doubt that it’s blackmail. It’s pretty simple I think. Shohei’s old pal was allowed to run up 7 figure losses by a bookie and now Rocky Balboa was going to be sent for collection. Of course Shohei doesn’t want to see his friend harmed so he makes payments for him. And here we are.
I think more likely Ohtani bet and is trying to throw his old pal under the bus.
Yeah atomic front, I thought about that. The betting supposedly started in 2021. If Shohei’s and Bowyer’s records coincide for that long, he’s got a problem. So far, info about only two payments in the Fall of 2023 has been released. We’ll see where it goes from there.
@THEY LIVE!!! When you have too much time on your hands, a good unfounded accusation or three will make it fly by.
No need to worry about pesky details like proof.
Trust Me Bro is my favorite source
atomicfront is a pretty reliable source as well…
At this point, I wonder how you say Miranda Rights in Japanese. They both ought to know.
@Blue Baron
Projecting much?? What exactly was my accusation?
“This sounds more like blackmail than embezzlement of funds.”
Unfounded much?
FYI: Unfounded means without proof.
@ Blue Barren
The $4.5 million theft smells rotten & unbelievable on the face value. I merely offered a more believable theory. No specific charges needed to call BS on this one.
because he left the angels? i think having to play for the Angels would be a harsher punishment.
b) why everyone assumes Ohtani did it, in spite of no evidence to link him to it.
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The fact that the money came from Ohtani’s account is evidence.that SOMEONE did something wrong. Perhaps Ohtani had nothing to do with it, but ignoring the possibility is pretty farfetched.
Dodgers sure know how to pick professional idiots:
Ohtani – gambling
Miguel Olivio – bites teammate ear in fight
Bauer – legal problems
Yasiel puig – small head, big ego
Bauer was set up…way to blame the victim.
set up or not the fact he gets off on beating women is out there.
Who wants to bet on Ohtani’s suspension? Over under 1 year
If there is any discipline warranted, it will likely be deferred by the MLB
Serves MLB right. friggin hypocrites. IN BED with gambling up to their NADS.
sports gambling increased by 27.5%(!!!) between 2022 and 2023. ESPN now has betting lines on their scoreboard page including spring training games. anyone who has suffered or witnessed a gambling addiction understands that MLB is becoming the sackler family
The last 24 hours have been very interesting in Doyer land
This story has changed so many times already that it will lead to…
“The cover up is always worse than the crime”
If any of these bets were made on baseball and it will come out because it’s a game of dominoes…first one falls then the second and then somebody will cut a deal and then the coverup comes into play on top of the actual crime.
MLB rule 21…section D-1,2,3 is pretty clear on this
content.mlb.com/documents/8/2/2/296982822/Major_Le…
Read it and come to your own conclusions….Kennesaw Mountain Landis was very clear on this in the wake of the Black Sox Scandal of 1919.
Othani is screwed and if he isn’t then Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson are wanting an answer.
Shohei ohtani has a gambling addiction. Violated mlb gambling policies. Forced his interpreter to take the ride and we all know why. I think I speak for most common sense sports fans and Americans in general.
Convicting without any proof. Typical…
Is there any evidence that he bet on baseball?
If not, why are the people who want Pete Rose in the HOF demanding this guy be banned?
Oh….right.
Help this waif .
@66TheNumberOfTheBest
A changing story is evidence of a cover-up.
It simply does not track that Shohei had no idea what his interpreter was doing with $4.5 million of his money. Something is very bad about this.
Put the card back in the deck.
So betting on baseball and covering it up is bad, then?
Ohtani should announce that he is trans which will then make any further persecution of him a hate crime.
Cast Ohtani as lead in the remake of Rocky Horror Picture Show.
Did Phil Mickelson’s name come up?
The whole story stinks. I think Ohtani is up to his armpits in gambling. Whether or not he gambled on NCAA and the rest with an illegal bookmaker is one thing. If he bet on MLB with a bookie? Then he gets the death penalty for MLB. The Tax Dodgers deserve every bit of the karma they will reap.
Shohei Ohtani asked Dave Roberts if the 2024 Dodgers are going to win the World Series.
“Don’t bet it”, Dave Roberts replied.
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“No really, Shohei. Don’t bet on it.”
I feel like he would have said “you bet your ass” instead.
I’d say you ruined my joke, but my typo already did that.
It made me laugh at least.
…and please stop equating Ohtani as being on a par with Ruth. He is not a patch on Ruth. “The Greatest Player in MLB History”? Puh-f’ing-leese. Another flash in the pan.
Rough start for LAD
Gave up 15 runs to weak SD tm
Ohtani is a degenerate gambler
Yamamoto didnt last more than 1 inning
Billions spent in offseason
This is why 29 other tms refused to spend
The dodgers make the Mets look good, for once. Probably won’t last.
mets finally stopped buying up expensive disappointing underwhelming useless FAs. they let the dodgers do that now. but yea they’ll find a way to become the joke of the league again pretty soon
When they’re not funny, yes
Dodgers should just cut Othani and cut their losses.
Dodgers gamble on not paying the big contract front loaded is now paying off.
I love all the armchair attorneys and judges here who are already chanting burn him at the stake while no solid facts are even out yet. Gotta Love ‘Merica!
Exactly. The slew of adolescent takes on here reflects the current state of our culture, it’s pathetic.
I believe this as much as I believe Wayne Gretzky’s wife used to bet on sports.
Can we get Buck Weaver reinstated now?
The amount of knee-jerk reactions here is amazing. No investigation results have been made public yet everyone is convinced that Ohtani is a degenerate gambler based on….what exactly?
The entire thing is fishy, certainly, but so many are jumping to conclusions, I feel like I am at a trampoline park.
@moot it’s probably because they’re all still pissed that Ohtani didn’t choose their team.
Pete Rose is still banned for life. But MLB & manfred doesn’t give a crap about investigating whether or not Ohtani is a degenerate gambler
Absolutely disgusting and shameful
Pete Rose is a pedophile. Let that sink in and then let’s see if you care about his HOF status.
And very likely trafficked cocaine through Golds Gym in Cincinnati to pay off his own gambling debts.
So, are you mad that Rose is banned?
If not, then why do you care about Ohtani?
If so, then why do you care about Ohtani?
Do you guys really think MLB will take any legal action against Ohtani if they knew he was part of gambling on baseball? No. They will just look the other way because Ohtani is too valuable.
Also, according to our web overlord, Google, he is the most searched pitcher in MLB history.
I’m sorry but I just don’t care about Outani paying for his friend’s gambling debts. As hard as I try to care, I just can’t. Sorry
Watch Arte Moreno come out of this looking like a genius. Every dog has their day.
We’re heading toward the Savannah Bananas being able to market their game integrity. Lol
I have no idea what happened.
If Ohtani violated any MLB rule he should be punished in accordance with that rule
-A Dodger Fan
Well the precedent for knowing about gambling and not promptly telling the club is a lifetime ban. So…I Ohtani knew? Well….it says he gets different treatment than a player dead 60 years still serving a 104 year ban. Baseball hasn’t been kind to gambling implications..nor should it be.
With PEDs atleast the implication is attempting to win. MLB must have game integrity. To even question it is trouble.
Excellent points here, Dock. My problem with the whole MLB “Death Penalty” for betting on MLB while a player is that we now live in a world of FanDuel and Caesars and Bet360. The lines are now more blurry than ever. However, if it can be proven that Ohtani made bets on MLB games (in addition to other sports?) , then he gets shown the door. The other complicating factor is the whole FBI probe of the involved bookie. Because the FBI don’t play. And they are masters at getting people to roll over on other people. I want to believe that Ohtani is way too smart to fall into this hole but…pride goeth before a fall.
I agree with all you said. Someone will sing. They already have Puig. I’m not ready to say thus doesn’t expand league wide like the Pittsburgh Drug Trials. MLB punted integrity a long time ago. It get to drink its own medicine. If this comes out bad…fans need to revolt. Money is all they care about.
“What I can’t figure out is why the lawyers didn’t tell everyone to just shut up,” Rose told CBS Sports.
Is anyone buying that Ohtani’s money people didn’t see 1 mil. go missing? If Ohtani had prior knowledge and covered for his buddy he could still face problems whether he placed the bets or not.
Bring Trevor Bauer back!
Trevor going to stop beating women? Cause he got set up in San Diego by someone that knew he could be. Guy has a string of issues from what I’ve gathered from a few people in the game.
Lifetime ban for the cheater!
After reading more on this Im going to choose to believe ohtani did nothing wrong here and is in fact the victim until it is proven otherwise
That’s how any normal human would react, poolhall.
Maybe if the story didn’t flip the next day. That is the main issue causing the suspicion.
Smelly C, there’s a difference between suspicion and immediately calling for a lifetime ban or for him to be arrested.
agreed, anyone saying he’s guilty is a troll. But there are reasons to believe this won’t turn out well for everybody involved.
Yup, the trolls are ugly, small minded creatures. I agree it doesn’t look good but am waiting for the actual facts to come out.
Those 500,000 transactions would have triggered the Federal laundering system. Ohtani would have been notified personally about them. This doesn’t look good.
As of today is there any reason to assume anything at all about this?
Anything at all beyond…
A asserted w…
B asserted x…
The state has said it’s doing y…
MLB has said it’s doing z…
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No, not really, JackStrawb, but there are a lot of small people here who can only deal with their envy by making assumptions and basically cheering for someone to get banned from the game or worse. What a bunch of losers.
So the intertrupter had access to his banking ? And he has no one elee monitoring his every affair? Something is not adding up.
Even if Ohtani himself isn’t gambling, aren’t there MLB rules about consorting with gamblers?
It’s a violation of the CBA to wire money to an illegal bookie.
Pretty obvious what’s going on here, the bind that Ohtani, the Dodgers and MLB are in here… amazing timing for this to come out right now…
I like gambling too, but why would you gamble in a way that could ruin your extremely lucrative career? I know, I know, addiction… but man… hope it was worth it for Ohtani…
Kinda funny the rate of MLB guys who sign massive record breaking deals and then do stuff that makes them persona non grata in the game almost as soon as the ink dries on that record breaking contract of their’s.
Ohtani won’t be paid if he’s suspended. Right now the Feds have his account wiring money to an illegal book maker in violation of the CBA. If he ends up with a ban. It’ll void his deal.
Ohtani is guilty the guy did not steal from him. He gambled and got caught suspend him just like they did Trevor Bauer he’s guilty to proven innocent
Best most people don’t know more about Bauer. He got set up in SD because of his reputation which was no secret.
Oh and if ohtani is not suspended the rose gets into the Hof
Life time band ohtani if not rose in Hof ohtani is guilty until proven innocent just like traffic
I think it quite possible that Shohei, Ippei, or both, are in bed with a gambler, on many a night.
What does any of this have to do with playing baseball? is this the next episode of the Kardashians?
What a sad way to begin a new season.
The Dodgers seem to have a problem of having at least one player a year being involved in scandal.
Baseball is entertainment. Baseball scandals are also entertainment.
If he were not rich, he would be worrying about deportation right about now.
‘Ohtani is definitely guilty’, according to the Trevor Bauer accusers.
This article is one of many that call out all the inconsistencies in Ohtani’s story.
nymag.com/intelligencer/article/the-shohei-ohtani-…
There is a federal investigation going on, so MLB will not be able to sweep this under the rug.
By making a public statement that Ohtani was aware of the gambling and was paying Mazahura’s gambling debts, then allowing Mazahura to do a 90 minute interview, and only after being informed of the illegality of Ohtani’s actions even if he was not actually doing the gambling changing their story, Ohtani’s handlers have made a very bad situation worse.
Once they said it was theft but refused to press charges they made it even worse for Ohtani.
When they get back to the US both Ohtani and Mazahura will have to talk to the FBI in regards to the gambling investigation.
The local DA will also want to talk to both about the alleged theft and can press charges without Ohtani filing charges. We are also not talking about a short jail sentence like the one Bonds trainer for. Stealing $4.5 million would net a very long jail sentence.
Then there would be the federal wire fraud charges. Again those can be brought against Mazahura even if Ohtani doesn’t file charges due theft. Take a look at what a $4.5 million wire fraud conviction means in terms of jail time.
There are even more things to consider but I don’t want to write a 5000 word article on it
This is just beginning and it doesn’t appear that it will end well for Ohtani because once he understands that he could spend a decade or more in jail, its extremely doubtful Mazahura will be so willing to fall on the sword for Ohtani.
Bingo
So far, it’s about tax fraud and only the IRS is involved as the lead investigative agency. I am not saying that it couldn’t escalate beyond that but one thing at a time. Right now, it appears that Shohei has to say that his trusted friend of 11 years did identity theft and transferred millions of dollars over a period of months. Even if Shohei had nothing to do with placing bets with the illegal bookie, he broke a MLB regulation about doing business with unlicensed gambling organizations. Every player has to sign a form every spring agreeing to not use bookies. Unfortunately for Shohei, just paying off someone else’s bookie debt is a MLB violation that could result in a one year suspension. No good deed goes unpunished.
I once did 8 solid weeks of research on the Black Sox Scandal, and have probably seen a great many things on it the casual person has not.
If there’s ANY kind of knowledge here on Ohtanis part of the gambling operation. And he doesn’t receive a lifetime ban. It’ll be absolutely RIDICULOUS that Buck Weaver remains banned after 120 years.
During my research, I lost respect for Shoeless Joe Jackson as to his involvement and toward Comiskey for his attempts to hide the scandal. Bill Veeck actually found the missing grand jury testimony buried in Harry Grabiners office. Comiskey was likely guilty of obstruction of justice.
Buck Weaver was banned because one day on the train he was passing and came across a meeting between some players and a series gambler. His supposed guilt was not telling anyone. Well, it seemed apparent that everyone was talking about a fix including his manager Kid Gleason.
After the series in 1919 Buck Weaver TWICE sat in Comiskeys outer office attempting to speak to Charles Comiskey. Atleast once he sat there 6 hours. Comiskey avoided him and refused to speak with him. Later in 1920 the scandal broke.
Buck Weaver is a very tragic case and should be reinstated.
The FBI arrested Bowyer, the illegal bookmaker, in October 2023. Its more than just the IRS involved right now.
It’s my understanding from news accounts that IRS conducted the raid on Bowyer’s home. IRS has its own investigative and enforcement division. The same news reports state that other federal and local police agencies are not involved….yet.
And yet its the FBI that arrested Bowyer. In fact, they are the only ones that can.
Bowyer’s home was raided by IRS. Records are seized but the news never mentioned an arrest. The way it should work is the US Attorney office of Central California will study the seized records and present its findings to a grand jury proceeding. If the grand jury decides that a crime has been committed, it will issue an indictment. If that happens, Bowyer will be ordered to report to the US Marshalls for booking. However, the US Attorney should be much more interested in Bowyer rolling over on possible legal casinos taking layoff bets from unlicensed bookies. This is the real goal of this mess. The US Attorney is not interested in Ippei or any other bettors as being defendants. They want cooperation from bettors to pressure Bowyer to roll over on his bookie network. The only MLB crime was using a bookie in the first place….so far.
Its about WIRE fraud. Its a federal crime and a serious one that has penalties up to 20 years.
extremely doubtful Mazahura will be so willing to fall on the sword for Ohtani.
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And there always the possibility that falling on the sword won’t work, There are plenty of poor people willing to take the rap for rich people (for the right financial incentive) but it isn’t always as easy as saying “I did it”.
And there are a lot of amateurs that don’t have the chops for this. The guys doing the questioning have probably done this hundreds of times. What were the dates of the wires? What is his password? Which banks did you use? Which device?
Do you really want to know why this is such a huge deal? Its not about whether or not Ohtani was gambling illegally. That may be a big thing in baseball and could mean as much as a 1 year suspension, but legally it is a misdemeanor.
To know why this is so serious for Ohtani, call your bank manager and ask about the Banking Secrecy Act (BSA) and what has to be done for you to make a wire transfer over $10k. What are the federal banking rules and procedures? What do you have to do? What does the bank have to do? And who does the bank have to report that wire transfer to?
Also ask them what the procedures on wire transfers over $10k are for people that are not US citizens. Also ask about procedures for those that do not speak English well.
When you get the answers to those questions you will know for certain that Mizuhura could not have made those transfers without Ohtani’s direct participation.
I am almost certain that Mizuhura was telling the truth in his interview with CNN about these being his gambling debts being paid by Ohtani and that was going to be the end of it until Ohtani’s lawyers realized that falsifying information on a wire transfer over $10k is wire fraud, a serious federal crime with penalties up to 20 years in federal prison and fines up to $250k.
The statute its covered by is the Banking Secrecy Act which was passed to prevent money laundering and illegal gambling. Sound familiar?
Its one of the charges Bowyer was arrested on. He is the bookie that the FBI investigated and arrested in October, and to whom the payments were sent from Ohtani’s account.
Whether Ohtani was gambling or just paying off the debt of a friend, its still wire fraud. Ignorance of the law is not a defense and minimum sentencing guidelines call for a 66 month jail sentence for each count. This is no joke and won’t be swept under the rug because its not just breaking a baseball rule against illegal gambling or betting on baseball. Its a felony. A federal crime.
This is going to get very serious for Ohtani very quickly. I can guarantee the FBI is going to talk to him and they have their own interpretors. If he lies to them, that will make things worse.
I don’t see this ending well for him or Mizuhura.
And to come out and say, there was no betting on baseball is ridiculous. How does someone lose that much money on bets unless they are betting on a sure bet and it turns out it wasn’t a sure bet and keeps losing.
Aka, I love my chances of Ohtani bringing the Angels to a World Series championship. I’m betting on it!… for 6 years. And for 6 straight years it didn’t happen. It adds up to millions of dollars in lost bets.
Pay up! The interpreter and Ohtani were betting on baseball. If they weren’t and losing that much on other sports bets, then their dumber then…
“their” dumber?
Correction, “they’re” dumber. I just woke up when I posted that above post, give me a break man.
gambling has no limits man. you can go and get millions at a casino on one hand or one game.
What is almost as earth shattering about this story is there are an equal amount of writers mentioned in this story about being in connection with the story that are on a baseball team’s starting lineup…Gustavo Arellano, Adam Elmahrek, Nathan Fenno and Paul Pringle of the Los Angeles Times, ESPN’s Tisha Thompson, Andy McCullough, Fabian Ardaya, Britt Ghiroli and Sam Blum of the Athletic.
What are the odds on that?
Both the Times and ESPN were tipped off months ago about this. It only makes sense that a team of reporters would be assigned to track down every lead and get corroboration from multiple sources. This story is too big to have an Arson Judge or Toronto charter jet moment.
His logo has been updated to include Tony Soprano rounding second base and a police car rounding first.
Its apparent Ohtani has a gambling problem,The Law will be involved gambling is illegal in California.. wire transfers cross state lines to start with..Ohtani will be suspended and face large fines and maybe if he is smart ? on the first plane out of this country..yet MLB makes tons of money of this guy…and The Dodgers are wondering how do they get out from under his contract… Lawyers are lining up on all sides right now.. This is just the start of the story..I bet there is large amounts of money more than the 4.5 million that we know about out there in more gambling losses…Ohtani the Dodgers and MLB will have a large price to pay..but keep putting the Fanduel commercials on tv MLB…what a greedy bunch of people, I doubt Ohtani will be playing Baseball for the Dodgers in about a month
That’s exactly what I find so hypocritical of MLB. Gambling is a criminal offense in baseball and should not been done by any player or MLB personnel. But it’s ok for MLB to make millions on advertising gambling during their games all over the place for their fans.
Hypocrites!!
I think part of the issue is illegal gambling is a feeder business for larger organized crime situations potentially involving drug tracking, human trafficking prostitution and other rackets….also ask yourself this would tony soprano take upwards of 4.5 mil in bets from an interpretor?
The short answer is yes. It’s also the long answer. Then they call in all their markers and take everything you’ve got.
ayeah18 hours ago
That’s exactly what I find so hypocritical of MLB. Gambling is a criminal offense in baseball
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No, it is not. Betting on baseball is the death sentence. You can bet on anything else. I trust you understand the difference.
Cover up coming PR nightmare for MLB
So…if Ohtani had no knowledge and now does 4.5 million over time would noticed by his accountant..why havnt we heard of that firm being fired by ohtani for not noticing this?
The money was to release the hostages and secure the contraband.
Looks like mlbtr might be part of the problem by not posting any other info on this very important topic today. Money money money money!
Unless you believe in the conspiracy, you’re part of it.
Check again dude. It’s ok you’re sad bias and don’t wanna believe it lol
It’s sad that you are making up crap and trying to promote it here. A true bottom feeder.
Yes, making up crap and obviously trying to make money on it too. Low.
I’m trying to make money off my comment? Bro slow down breathe it’s just a sport, relax. I didn’t make up anything I simply said they had been quiet all day about this story, which is true and curious so my comment was fair. Also chu crazy holmes
If Ohtani’s mother manages his bank account, how did his interpreter steal money from it without her knowing? This whole story is fishy, particularly since the story was told differently to begin with.
Ya think??
This is all a ploy for MLB and the betting apps to find more gamblers to sell their gambling services to.
My friend Ohtani will pay the $4.5 million but warned me not to ever do it again……
And then the real laugher….”I learned my lesson the hard way. I will never do sports betting ever again.” *ROTFLMAO* Yeah, right!
The Angels being sponsored by an Indian casino now makes way more sense…
Do you really want to know why this is such a huge deal? Its not about whether or not Ohtani was gambling illegally. That may be a big thing in baseball and could mean as much as a 1 year suspension, but legally it is a misdemeanor.
To know why this is so serious for Ohtani, call your bank manager and ask about the Banking Secrecy Act (BSA) and what has to be done for you to make a wire transfer over $10k. What are the federal banking rules and procedures? What do you have to do? What does the bank have to do? And who does the bank have to report that wire transfer to?
Also ask them what the procedures on wire transfers over $10k are for people that are not US citizens. Also ask about procedures for those that do not speak English well.
When you get the answers to those questions you will know for certain that Mizuhura could not have made those transfers without Ohtani’s direct participation.
I am almost certain that Mizuhura was telling the truth in his interview with CNN about these being his gambling debts being paid by Ohtani and that was going to be the end of it until Ohtani’s lawyers realized that falsifying information on a wire transfer over $10k is wire fraud, a serious federal crime with penalties up to 20 years in federal prison and fines up to $250k.
The statute its covered by is the Banking Secrecy Act which was passed to prevent money laundering and illegal gambling. Sound familiar?
Its one of the charges Bowyer was arrested on. He is the bookie that the FBI investigated and arrested in October, and to whom the payments were sent from Ohtani’s account.
Whether Ohtani was gambling or just paying off the debt of a friend, its still wire fraud. Ignorance of the law is not a defense and minimum sentencing guidelines call for a 66 month jail sentence for each count. This is no joke and won’t be swept under the rug because its not just breaking a baseball rule against illegal gambling or betting on baseball. Its a felony. A federal crime.
This is going to get very serious for Ohtani very quickly. I can guarantee the FBI is going to talk to him and they have their own interpretors. If he lies to them, that will make things worse.
I don’t see this ending well for him or Mizuhura.
One gets the impression that we’re asking the wrong questions of the wrong people. Follow the money.
Rarely have so many known so little about so much.
To all the baseball fans who are willing to believe in Ohtani in being truthful on his Ippei stole my money for “Ippei’s” gambling problem that Ohtani was completely unaware of and Ohtani NEVER bet or made any bet on baseball story to this point.
I bring you this latest development in the… I’m an honest clean MLB baseball player who brings great marketing to MLB.
barstoolsports.com/blog/3509383/shohei-ohtani-lied…