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Rays Could Make Multiple Starters Available On Trade Market

By Steve Adams | June 28, 2024 at 11:57pm CDT

The 40-41 Rays are one of many key teams to keep an eye on as the trade deadline draws near. While they’re buried in the American League East and unlikely to close their current 10.5-game deficit, they’re also only four games out of the final American League Wild Card spot. At the same time, Tampa Bay could soon find itself with a growing number of big league starters — more than it has room to plug into its rotation.

Katie Woo, Patrick Mooney and Will Sammon of The Athletic report that Tampa Bay is anticipating righty Shane Baz and left-hander Jeffrey Springs will be ready to rejoin the rotation before long; both pitchers are on the mend from Tommy John surgery — Baz’s performed in late 2022 and Springs’ performed early last season. Baz already completed a minor league rehab assignment and has continued building up in Triple-A.

Once regarded as perhaps the top pitching prospect in the game, the 25-year-old Baz got out to a rough start during his rehab stint but has now rattled off five starts with a 1.57 ERA and 35-to-10 K/BB ratio in 23 innings. Springs has been on rehab for several weeks as well but has yet to pitch more than 2 1/3 innings in an outing. Prior to his Tommy John procedure, the now-31-year-old Springs had emerged as the latest in a long line of diamond-in-the-rough pitching finds for the Rays.

Tampa Bay acquired Springs and righty Chris Mazza in a trade that sent catching prospect Ronaldo Hernandez to Boston. At the time, Springs was a journeyman lefty who’d posted a 5.42 ERA over three partial big league seasons. With the Rays, he broke out to the tune of a 2.53 ERA, 29.5% strikeout rate and 6.3% walk rate in 196 innings. Tampa Bay rewarded that breakout with a four-year, $31MM extension — but Springs unfortunately went under the knife just three starts into the 2023 campaign.

With that pair of arms on the mend — to say nothing of righty Drew Rasmussen, who underwent an internal brace procedure just under one year ago — the Rays indeed have a mounting stock of arms. The Athletic trio notes in their report that of the team’s current starters — Zach Eflin, Aaron Civale, Zack Littell, Taj Bradley and Ryan Pepiot — Civale and Littell are the likeliest to be available in trades. Both pitchers are in their second year of arbitration eligibility and controlled through the 2025 season. Civale, whom the Rays acquired last summer in a trade sending first base prospect Kyle Manzardo to the Guardians, is earning $4.9MM this year. Littell, yet another product of the Rays’ almost comical hidden-gem factory (he was claimed off waivers from Boston), is earning just $1.8MM.

Of the two, Littell is enjoying the stronger season but also has the shorter track record. He’s pitched 86 1/3 innings of 4.17 ERA ball with a roughly average 22% strikeout rate against an exceptional 4.3% walk rate. Since the Rays took the former starter-turned-reliever and plugged him back into a rotation role last July, he’s given them 27 starts with a 3.98 earned run average, 20.2% strikeout rate and even more impressive 3.6% walk rate. (I profiled Littell’s breakout in depth earlier this season in a piece for MLBTR Front Office subscribers.)

Civale’s time with the Rays hasn’t gone as the team had hoped when acquiring him last year. He’s posted strong strikeout and walk rates alike, but his sharp K-BB profile has been undercut by a penchant for serving up home runs. The 29-year-old righty has started 26 games for Tampa Bay dating to last summer’s trade but logged a disappointing 5.26 ERA. Despite upping his strikeout rate from 21.1% with the Guards to 25.4% with the Rays and maintaining his terrific command (6.1% walk rate in Cleveland; 6.2% with Tampa Bay), Civale’s ERA has spiked from 3.77 with his former club to 5.26 with his current one. After yielding 1.19 homers per nine frames in five seasons with Cleveland, Civale has been tagged for a troubling 1.56 big flies per nine since heading to St. Petersburg.

There hasn’t been a major change in Civale’s repertoire that’s clearly prompted that flaw. He’s throwing more sliders this year at the expensive of his cutter, but it’s not an overwhelming change in usage rates and the righty is still using the same blend of six pitches (four-seam, cutter, sinker, slider, curveball and the very occasional splitter) that he used late in his Guardians tenure. His velocity has held up as well.

Despite Civale’s struggles this season, there’d be no shortage of teams interested in adding him and/or Littell to their staff for the next season and a half. Both arms are affordable — particularly for teams with CBT concerns — and there established rotation arms in general will be in short supply. That’s all the more true given recent injuries to trade candiates Jesus Luzardo, Braxton Garrett and Patrick Sandoval. The leaguewide arm shortage could position the Rays to deal from their current rotation and then replace whichever starter is traded with an in-house arm that’s returning from injury.

Darragh McDonald and I discussed this possibility with the Rays on this week’s episode of the MLBTR Podcast, also touching on the possibility of the Rays drawing interest in right-hander Zach Eflin. He’s arguably more important to the team’s staff than either Civale or Littell, but he’s also the most expensive starter on the roster. Eflin inked a three-year, $40MM deal in free agency prior to the 2023 season. It’s a heavily backloaded pact that will pay Eflin $18MM in 2025 — a hefty number by the Rays’ typically thrifty standards. With Springs, Baz and Rasmussen all on the mend and able to join young arms like Baz, Bradley and Pepiot in next year’s rotation, the always cost-conscious Rays will presumably be open to listen on Eflin while pondering a similar gamut to the Littell/Civale scenario laid out in The Athletic’s report.

It bears emphasizing that even if the Rays end up selling — or, as they often have in the past, operating on both the “buy” and “sell” side of the market — Sammon, Woo and Mooney report that the front office is not interested in a large-scale rebuild. Even if the Rays fall out of the 2024 race, the plan will be to reload and take aim and contending again in 2025. Given the wealth of young and/or cost-controlled pitching and a perennially deep farm system that keeps churning out interesting young hitters, the Rays likely feel they have the foundation of a contending club largely in place.

As is so often the case this time of year, the Rays appear positioned as one of the teams who will in many ways dictate a fair bit of the deadline’s dealings. Whether they rattle off several wins and thrust themselves into Wild Card position, maintain the status quo as a bubble team or drop further down the standings, their slate of rehabbing quality arms gives them the flexibility to shop current big league arms — be it for other big leaguers in areas of need or near-MLB prospects who can help in 2025.

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  1. slugger82685

    12 months ago

    Rays will certainly take advantage of their pitching surplus, that’s the only way they have been able to complete historically by trading for controllable talent

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    • Fever Pitch Guy

      11 months ago

      slugger – Do you mean compete instead of complete?

      If so, it’s because it’s the only way they CHOOSE to compete.

      Did you know the Rays were tied for 3rd-biggest profit in MLB last year??

      They made $68M ….. that’s $68M they could have added to their 4th-lowest payroll in MLB.

      Until MLB ties revenue-sharing into payroll spending, nothing will change.

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  2. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    12 months ago

    Rays are going to win the deadline by being the only seller and getting a ton for their pitchers

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    • Fever Pitch Guy

      11 months ago

      sad – Only seller? There will be at least 6 other teams selling.

      But yes, it will be a seller’s market.

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    • User 401527550

      11 months ago

      A lot of teams are fading. There will be other sellers.

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  3. Jbigz12

    12 months ago

    Civale for a bag of balls. Can’t imagine they’re getting anything for him.

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    • pohle

      12 months ago

      who else would the 20-24 teams in contention realistically go after? crochet is good, but has to be on an innings limit, and i would take my chances with two years of civale over two years of tyler anderson

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      • cwsOverhaul

        12 months ago

        Fedde-low cost for 1.5 years. No one will mistake him for great, but his improvements in Korea have carried over. Can be a 4th starter (maybe 3rd) in a playoff series.

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      • GarryHarris

        11 months ago

        In Detroit there’s SPs Jack Flaherty and Kenta Maeda as well as RPs Andrew Chafin and Shelby Miller.

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      • Troutahni

        11 months ago

        Are you sure? I’ve watched every outing Anderson’s had since he’s been with the Angels. He really avoids the heart of the plate for the most part. His control shouldn’t be judged purely by walks. He’s inducing a high number of groundouts and winning by mind-beating batters with location. He does get into trouble by nibbling, which is when he is nibbling too much, especially with umpires with smaller strikezones. His makeup and bulldog mindset are strong assets. As long as his change-up stays intact, he should remain consistent pitcher who slots well as a third) or fourth starter. The Angels coaching staff has helped him get back to where he was when he was with the Dodgers 2 years ago. The Angels won’t be trading anybody until their current heater ends.

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    • fljay73

      12 months ago

      1 or 2 Single A prospects for Civale.

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    • solaris602

      12 months ago

      Guardians should bring him back, but TB can’t expect to get a player like Manzardo (who they sent to CLE for him last year) in return.

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      • mp2891

        12 months ago

        They wouldn’t expect that. He has a year less control and is making more money now.

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  4. Liberalsteve

    12 months ago

    Time to move baseball out of FLorida and gove it to Nashville, las Vegas, mexico

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    • Rsox

      12 months ago

      Nashville wants an expansion team, Vegas is getting the A’s, Mexico is a logistical nightmare. Baseball isn’t leaving Florida any time soon and the Rays have made some headway on a new stadium which would help immensely

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      • Dice 66

        12 months ago

        Nashville would take a team that wanted to move for sure. Miami should move to Nashville.

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      • alwaysgo4two

        12 months ago

        As a 35 year resident, I’m certain a new stadium in the exact same location will only minimally change the attendance issues.

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        • Rays in the Bay

          11 months ago

          It won’t change them at all but it will bring more traffic to Stu’s businesses and pockets inside the new Trop.

          But we all know Sternberg doesn’t care about attendance and hasn’t cared for 5 years now. Having said that, I will always support the Rays and hope they don’t move. I just hope for better ownership and a sale of the team after the stadium gets built.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          11 months ago

          always – Agreed, it’s foolish for anybody to think a new stadium will make a difference beyond the first couple seasons. Cheapskate Stu needs to spend and retain some of his star players.

          Even still, with there being so many transplants in the Tampa area they will have a hard time winning over fans with allegiances to other teams.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          11 months ago

          Bay – As long as the Rays continue to make one of the biggest profits in MLB, nothing will change.

          Bad enough you can’t buy tickets at the Trop ticket windows anymore, but now charging the tax ON TOP of the advertised ticket prices is beyond disgusting.

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      • User 4245925809

        12 months ago

        Not really a logistical issue, but safety. Much of mexico, safety wise would be worse than several US cities. ruled by cartels and gangs, where police force(s) are bought and paid for by cartel and under world figures? i’d expect less than 1 season before full blown hostage situation erupted over sports figures, bringing mexican warts to media exposure they couldn’t even ignore/white wash.

        Dozen to 20y ago was all for a team in say mexico city, but now can’t see any located in any country south of the border.

        multiple reasons.. leftist policies/leaders allowing rights and safety to sstumble from US and countries in question, but point is enough.

        yes, have been to several said places, tho most decades ago. saying goes.. times they are a changin’ and for most? for the worse.

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        • case

          11 months ago

          A dozen years ago the cartels weren’t in control and teams would have been safe? You probably shouldn’t get your news from PAN chatbots.

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        • deadspy3 2

          11 months ago

          1) Much of Mexico is considerably safer than many large US cities
          2) The vast majority of weapons in Mexico come from the US
          3) The vast majority of drugs trafficked from Mexico go to the US
          4) Leftist governments? No. There’s been six years of (one) mild leftist government, and the problems long pre-date that.

          Mexico isn’t the problem here, and its democracy is considerably healthier than that of the United States.

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        • Jobu's Rum

          11 months ago

          @johnsilver You have no idea what you’re talking about regarding Mexico City today. Your assumptions are baseless and nice try attempting to inject personal politics into your rant.

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        • User 401527550

          11 months ago

          You lost us on the first whopper.

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        • teddyj

          11 months ago

          You saying it doesn’t make it so

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        • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

          11 months ago

          Leftists, it’s always the damn leftists. Blame the leftists first, if there’s a problem of course it was the leftists. If it wasn’t for the leftists, we would all be living in perfect splendor & luxury. God damn leftists. There’s a place in hell reserved for every leftist, thank you Jesus.

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        • case

          11 months ago

          Also, the estate and capital gains taxes. If we could just get rid of them we’d all be granted entrance to the kingdom of heaven.

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        • Dave 32

          11 months ago

          Mexico is safer than Texas or Florida. Go home boomer, you’re drunk.

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        • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

          11 months ago

          2023 Total Murders: Mexico City: 778
          Dallas TX: 246 Miami FL: 31

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        • User 401527550

          11 months ago

          Good then move there.

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        • MWeller77

          11 months ago

          Yeah, good point, John Silver, I mean, there have been so many “full-blown hostage situations” with Chivas and America and their multi-million-dollar pro athletes…

          Oh, wait. That’s right. There haven’t. You just have no idea what you’re talking about, as usual, Grandpa Simpson.

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        • MWeller77

          11 months ago

          Also 8 times as many people in Mexico City as in Dallas, so maybe Mexico City is safer after all. We can’t really tell from what you’ve presented.

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    • alwaysgo4two

      12 months ago

      It makes complete sense that you would say that. Totally without any thought.

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      • Karensjer

        12 months ago

        You would be surprised at how many Rays fans defend the move of a new stadium in the parking lot of the old one. The club needs to either move to Tampa with the promise of $ternberg opening the wallet, move to Orlando/Kissimmee area with $ternberg operating like he normally does and agreement for him to start raising payroll once attendance goes above Tropicana Field averages (it will very early into the deal), or just relocate the team, and get a team Orlando/Kissimmee/Tampa away from the Gulf of Mexico that has an owner willing to spend more. Nobody is going to Tampa Bay games because of location. 90% of a teams ticket sales are within a 50 mile radius of the stadium. The Trop, and the new stadium in the parking lot have almost half of that radius within the Gulf of Mexico. Some of the attendance issues will be resolved if the park were in a more central location like Orlando. Additional help would be if the team would advertise. Even if you are in the Trop parking lot, you don’t see Rays advertising. 2-3 blocks away in Pittsburgh, Washington, Detroit, both Chicago teams, Houston, Boston, Milwaukee, and Kansas City (all stadiums I have been to), there is signage, block parties going on, vendors, tailgating, etc. you only know you are at a baseball venue when you get 100 feet away from the stadium and can see it. Not a good job at attracting the casual fan. How is that for more thought?

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    • mlb fan

      12 months ago

      “Baseball out of Florida”…I’m not saying I agree, but Florida sports in general have always presented challenges. I’m pretty sure I saw a Dolphins playoff game years and years ago with only a half full stadium. And everyone saw the Rays still struggling to sell tix(the following year)even after an early 2000’s World Series appearance.

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        12 months ago

        People in Florida just aren’t fond of baseball, when I was in Miami I only saw like 1 marlins hat, and it was all heat jerseys and dolphins jerseys and panthers jerseys

        Florida is mainly basketball country from what I’ve seen

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        • User 4245925809

          12 months ago

          Location. poster above mentions this.

          hockey in tampa proper outdraws the ST Pete Rays. just looked to make sure and ice palace (downtown Tampa proper) where the Lightning play? They have averaged 18-20k fans per home game last dozen seasons.

          Build a Baseball stadium in ACTUAL tampa, yes.. Even 50m away Orlando and they way outdraw anything ST petersburgh rays ever will.

          Sternberg just wants every last dime of any stadium funded by the state (which ain’t happening in FL), or a potential county, without him spending 10c of his personal cash.

          live close to Tampa/Orlando or not (halfway between myself) i don’t blame any government for not wasting tax dollars on a dead beat owner, looking to line his own pockets at the expense of others.

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        • Fred Lingenfelser

          11 months ago

          Floridians love baseball. The issue is simply this: As a Floridian on the gulf coast, I know that most of my neighbors aren’t actually from Florida. That includes myself. I moved down from PA and am an Orioles fan. Maybe the next generation of Floridians will become Rays and Marlins fans, but right now, people still like the teams from where they’re originally from, and I don’t really have much desire to go to the Trop, as it’s not exactly the nicest stadium.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          11 months ago

          sad – Sorry you have many things in your post that are false.

          Yes football is the most popular sport in Florida, but baseball is still immensely popular. It produces the 9th-most MLB players in the country, largely due to the year-round baseball weather. Basketball? Well if you’re in Miami when the Heat was winning championships with LeBron and Wade then yeah.

          The biggest problem with the two Florida teams is they are both poorly run and they don’t understand the concept of retaining good players. When Longoria left, it became a constant shuffle of players that fans didn’t know and didn’t become attached to.

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      • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

        11 months ago

        You would think Florida would be a bonanza for baseball due to the Latino population and the retirees from the north who would flock to see their home teams play. I hear the reasoning against as “there are too many recreational alternatives” in Florida due to the nice weather. But that same excuse could be used for Califirnia, yet all Cali teams aside from Oakland have awesome attendance.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      11 months ago

      The Rays need to quit trying to make ‘fetch’ happen for realz.

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    • letitbelowenstein

      11 months ago

      Mexico? Be serious. Montreal should get first crack.

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        11 months ago

        Bring back the expos stade olympique is getting renovated

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    • FloridaSportsGuy

      11 months ago

      Way to stay on topic.

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  5. dirtyjog

    12 months ago

    Not that it really made a difference but as far as low-level deals go the Springs trade was pretty atrocious for the Sox

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    • Rsox

      12 months ago

      The only good thing is Mazza (wrong Chris Mazza linked in the article BTW) did nothing for the Rays to even it out a little. Sogard has been a solid utility play at Worcester so there’s that but i don’t think anyone, including the Rangers who traded him to the Sox for the great Sam Travis thought he’d become a pretty good starter

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  6. Ski to Coors

    12 months ago

    Rockies have suddenly decided to become buyers.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      12 months ago

      Sell the farm for aging arenado!

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    • case

      11 months ago

      Giving up their top 4 prospects for a series of relief pitchers over 30!

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  7. Rsox

    12 months ago

    Buyer beware when acquiring pitching from the Rays, especially struggling starting pitching

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    • fljay73

      12 months ago

      Civale in Cleveland was very effective.

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    • holecamels35

      12 months ago

      Yeah, I don’t see many of these guys being good outside of Tampa. Also kinda funny the original kings of trading starting pitching, Cleveland, got one over on them in the CIvale deal.

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        11 months ago

        The rays have this funny magic trick where right when they trade their pitcher, they suddenly have an era over 6 and then goes down to TJ!

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  8. fljay73

    12 months ago

    If the Rays get their new stadium they are staying put.

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  9. fljay73

    12 months ago

    Eflin & Civale should be placed on the market. Both have another year (or 2) of control. Littel can be acquired for the right price but he is cheap & a effective #5 starter.

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    • solaris602

      12 months ago

      I don’t see a scenario where Eflin is still in TB next year at his price point. They could keep him and trade him this winter, but given his injury history they may be better off trading him by the deadline while he’s healthy. I think Civale goes back to CLE, and Eflin ends up in HOU.

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  10. RogerBeshensFootballSlider

    12 months ago

    The Rays were nothing in 2018, Roger Beshens taught Glasnow the Football Slider in May 2018 while Glas was in the Pitt. The Rays noticed Glasnow Roger Beshens influenced football slider and from that point forward used that football slider as there blueprint. Teach the RB Football Slider to a select group or all the pitchers and spend the money on the hitting side.

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    • fljay73

      12 months ago

      The Rays struggled in 2018 & 2019 but Glasnow was on the shelf a lot in his time in Tampa. That is why teams have scouting departments.

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      • RogerBeshensFootballSlider

        11 months ago

        You kidding me? in 2019 the Rays were loaded with Roger Beshens Football SLider guys that’s why in 2019 the Rays for the 1st time in their history AVERAGED OVER A K an IP.
        Blake Snell couldn’t avg over a K an IP until 2018 he learned the Roger Beshens Football SLider. Glasnow learned the RB football slider in PItt May 2018.

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    • Jason Hanselman

      12 months ago

      Or Charlie Morton’s arrival in 2019. Or pitching coach Kyle Snyder replacing Jim Hickey for the 2018 season. The emphasis has been much more on supination than pronation since then. Probably the guy who will bet you he can throw this ball over them there mountains, though.

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      • RogerBeshensFootballSlider

        11 months ago

        Jason, What did Kyle Snyder tell, Rasmussen, Mclanahan, Springs, Baz…about supination and pronation? They obviously threw the Roger Beshens Football Slider wrong and paid for it.
        This is the problem when someone reads messages, never threw the pitch and teaches something they have no idea how it’s thrown.

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        • Jason Hanselman

          11 months ago

          If Beshens taught Glasnow the pitch, as you say, and he ended up getting Tommy John, I guess anything is possible.

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      • RogerBeshensFootballSlider

        11 months ago

        The emphasis on supination/pronation obviously isn’t keeping the Rays pitchers healthy with the Roger Beshens Football Slider.
        Roger Beshens is consulting with a future HOF pitching coach about his football slider. There is video on his Twitter.
        You didn’t hear about it? BS

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      • RogerBeshensFootballSlider

        11 months ago

        Roger Beshens is consulting with Brent Strom the last few months.
        Whoever consulted with the Rays obviously doesn’t teach the Roger Beshens Football Slider correctly.
        Roger told Strom why guys are getting injured with his football slider pitch. If Snyder is smart he will contact Roger Beshens, maybe now with the credentials of teaching Strom Snyder will listen.

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    • mp2891

      12 months ago

      Jesus… Are you going to post this nonsense in every Rays’ article?

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      • RogerBeshensFootballSlider

        11 months ago

        What’s nonsense about it? Roger Beshens is in touch with a ML pitching coach since Feb. That coach in 2024 had no idea the grip, tilt and wrist action.

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      • RogerBeshensFootballSlider

        11 months ago

        Have you not watched the Roger Beshens Football Slider videos with Lovullo and Strom and their responses?
        The Dbacks are teaching it. R Nelson, Cecconi are in the process of throwing it.

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  11. fljay73

    12 months ago

    2025 Rotation-
    Ryan P.
    Shane
    Springs
    Bradley
    Baz
    Rasmussen
    + minor league pitchers
    Other 2025 options if not traded-
    Eflin
    Civale
    Littel

    Come on over shoppers. Make sure you are willing to cash out your top prospects! 😉

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    • mp2891

      12 months ago

      Yep. The Rays have a solid 5 man core for next season already in McClanny, Springs, Pepiot, Bradley and Baz, to say nothing of Rasmussen (not sure what to expect from him, but I’m assuming the Pen for now), Joe Rock (looks legit in AAA), Ian Seymour (overpowering AA right now and needs to be in AAA), Tyler Alexander (Reliever to Starter Project that didn’t work out this year but it’s interesting the Rays have him still working as a SP in AAA when their Pen needs help so badly). Throw in 1-2 young arms the Rays get back by trading Eflin, Aroz, Diaz, etc.., and they’ll be 8 deep next year even if they trade Eflin, Civale and Littell in the next month (which is what I expect).

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      • Fljay073

        12 months ago

        I don’t see Diaz going anywhere. Randy for a trade package including another young OF is a possibility.

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        • mp2891

          12 months ago

          Diaz is the easiest to replace. They call up Mead and Junior Caminero, move Paredes to 1B and trade Diaz. They could also keep Diaz at DH, but the Rays like to use DH for rest days for their every day players and they have DH only players like Aranda and Shenton waiting in AAA.. All depends on the trade offers. If teams think the Rays will accept a low ball offer because of Diaz’s early season struggles, then he’s going nowhere. That same issue applies to Aroz too.

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      • RogerBeshensFootballSlider

        11 months ago

        How is Mclanahan, Baz, Springs going to stay healthy if they keep throwing the Roger Beshens Football Slider wrong?
        I will bet the other guys get hurt also.
        Snyder is 6 years into the Roger Beshens football slider he still has no idea how to teach it for them to stay healthy.

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  12. holecamels35

    12 months ago

    Why on earth did Baz start ten games in the minors already? Feels like they are wasting his innings big time down there, even if you’re going to bring him up after 5 and have him in long relief would still help the team?

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    • mp2891

      12 months ago

      I’ll give you a clue. He had 2.014 years of service time at the start of the season and was accruing service time while recovering from TJS.

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  13. fljay73

    12 months ago

    He just came back over a month ago from TJS. They view him as a starter. The Rays have actually abandoned the opener in 2024.

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    • mp2891

      12 months ago

      Mostly because the Pen has been so awful.

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  14. Mr_KLC

    12 months ago

    Astros want to know what you want for Yandy Diaz.

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    • mp2891

      12 months ago

      I’ve been kicking around potential Diaz trades in my head. I think Loperfido and Ullola is a good package from Houston.

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        12 months ago

        Houston is in not exactly last dance mode but in desperation mode so I think the rays could coax crane and Dana for Jacob melton

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        • mp2891

          12 months ago

          Melton is obviously better than my trade idea.

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  15. Brick House Coffee Tables Inc

    12 months ago

    Tampa needs to restock AAA. The multi-year prospect pipeline has slowed down to just having Curtis Mead and Jonathan Aranda shuttle back and forth to Tampa. Too many of their Swiss Army Knife guys didn’t pan out: Brujan, Mastrobuoni, Brousseau, Edwards, Jones… There’s not a lot left in terms of interesting guys who can fill spots.

    Similarly, their pitching at AAA is rather depleted, they were using the corpse of Erasmo Ramirez last night in a late inning situation.

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    • mp2891

      12 months ago

      Erasmo must have naked selfies of Neander because he gets more chances with the Rays than anyone I’ve ever seen.

      Montgomery should be sending Durham a whole new batch of talented players in the next few weeks. Guys like Seymour, Wilcox,Askew, Reifert, Workman (all pitchers), C.Williams and C.Simpson.

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  16. tuck 2

    11 months ago

    Beware of trading with the Rays. Few of their pitchers have performed as well after being traded. There’s usually a reason they let them go.

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    • RogerBeshensFootballSlider

      11 months ago

      You are correct.
      For some reason they let go of Ryan Thompson.

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  17. Dave 32

    11 months ago

    The Rays are the new A’s, except they have some kind of trick to putting a ribbon on a pitcher before letting them go. Maybe they have a hypnotist that gets them game ready and once they’re gone, they’re a different person? I don’t get it. There’s just a long line of high performing Rays that turn into mediocre players elsewhere that makes me hope my team doesn’t get anyone from them.

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    • Patrick M

      11 months ago

      Except Civale.

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    • mp2891

      11 months ago

      The Rays aren’t magical or pulling fast ones on the league. They succeed by largely constructing teams with guys under 30 (letting other teams have the decline years of former players), maximizing one or two traits that a player does well, over-reliance on platooning bats (which maximizes their stats during the regular season but bites them in the butt in the playoffs), and generally having one of the best front offices in baseball. Folks like to point to former Rays players who fail with other teams, but there are plenty of success stories too. Tyler Glasnow and Christopher Sanchez are two of the leading contenders for the CYA this year, and there is Joe Ryan (Rays would love to have him back), Willy Adames, Nate Eovaldi, Luke Raley, Jake Croninworth, etc…

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  18. Patrick M

    11 months ago

    Boy, the writing on this website is excellent. Thanks for the Rays’ starting pitching summary!

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