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Trade Candidate: Josh Naylor

By Mark Polishuk | October 26, 2024 at 12:30pm CDT

Since Josh Naylor didn’t sign an extension with the Guardians during his pre-arbitration years, it has always seemed like there has been a ticking clock on the first baseman’s time in the Cleve.  With the exceptions of Jose Ramirez and Carlos Carrasco agreeing to below-market extensions to stay with the franchise, a look at Cleveland’s extension history over the last 17 years (hat tip to MLBTR’s Contract Tracker) reveals the simple truth that the Guards virtually never sign players to long-term extensions for significant salaries once they get within a year or two of free agency.

Naylor is now entering his final season of team control, and is projected by MLBTR’s Matt Swartz to land a $12MM salary in his last trip through the arbitration process.  It’s a nice raise from his $6.5MM salary in 2024, and since arbitration calculations tend to heavily weigh traditional counting stats, Naylor will handsomely cash in from posting a career-best 31 homers and 108 RBI.

A peek at the more advanced metrics is a little more troublesome, as Naylor’s 118 wRC+ (from a .243/.320/.456 slash line in 633 plate appearances) was solid but not quite elite, and a drop from his 127 wRC+ in 2023.  That prior season saw Naylor enjoy a .326 BABIP, while the batted-ball luck turned on him this season to the tune of a .246 BABIP.  Most of Naylor’s production also came in the first three months of the season, and it could be that the career-high 633 PA led to Naylor wearing down as the year progressed.  On the plus side, Naylor remained above-average in most Statcast categories, and he was a far more patient hitter than in years past, with a 9.2% walk rate that is also a career best.

All this being said, even “only” a repeat of his 2024 season should put Naylor (who turns 28 in June) in line for a lucrative free agent deal when he reaches the open market next winter.  It also very likely puts him out of Cleveland’s price range over the long term, and quite possibly even for the 2025 campaign.

The Guards had some increased attendance at Progressive Field during the regular season and they got a nice revenue boost from hosting six playoff games, yet the organization will also experience some level of dropoff in their broadcasting dollars.  MLB itself will now be handling the local distribution of Guardians games after the Diamond Sports Group backed out of its original contracts with the Guards and 10 other teams, which means that the Guardians will receive some but not all of the broadcast revenue they would’ve received under the terms of their previous deal.

In a world where the Guardians were still getting all of that TV money, odds are Naylor would still have been traded, just because that’s how the Guards have traditionally done business.  And of course, it isn’t an absolute guarantee that the first baseman will be on the move this offseason.  President of baseball operations Chris Antonetti might not find an offer to his liking, or ownership could approve a slightly higher payroll to make another run with what looks like a winning core.  Naylor could then be shopped at the deadline if the Guardians aren’t in contention, or kept through his last remaining season of team control and then very likely let go in free agency.  That latter scenario would at least put Cleveland in position to land a draft pick as compensation if Naylor rejected a qualifying offer and signed elsewhere.

Selling high on Naylor this winter might land more than just a draft pick, however.  Naylor’s name has already surfaced in past trade rumors, as the Cubs, Mariners, and Pirates all reportedly had talks with the Guardians about Naylor last winter.  Chicago’s subsequent acquisition of Michael Busch probably takes them out of the running, yet Seattle and Pittsburgh are both still targeting first base help, and offensive help in general.

While neither the M’s or Pirates are expected to be big spenders in free agency anyway, Naylor stands out as a major backup plan for any team that misses out on Pete Alonso or Christian Walker — the two biggest first basemen on the free agent market.  For one year and around $12MM, Naylor isn’t a huge splurge even for smaller-market clubs, or clubs like the Guardians who are facing broadcasting concerns.  Broadly looking at teams who have a clear or potential need at first base or DH, any of the Mets, Diamondbacks, Yankees, Astros, Brewers, Blue Jays, Reds, Nationals, Rays, Giants, or Padres (Naylor’s former team) could join the Pirates and Mariners as potential suitors.  The Tigers or Royals could also technically fit on this list but Cleveland is less likely to move Naylor to a division rival.

Since the Guardians have a lot of uncertainty in their starting rotation next year, teams that have pitching to offer might have a leg up in trade talks.  The Guards’ usual tactic of pursuing at least one prospect and at least one immediate MLB-ready player in trades could be limited by the fact that Naylor is only controlled for one season, since Naylor doesn’t have the ceiling that, say, Francisco Lindor did when Cleveland dealt the star shortstop to the Mets during the 2020-21 offseason.

There’s also the matter of how the Guardians will replace Naylor in their lineup.  Cleveland’s acquisition of prospect Kyle Manzardo from the Rays in 2023 was seen as a potential lead-in for Naylor’s departure, and Manzardo hit .234/.282/.421 (for a 98 wRC+) over his first 156 Major League PA this season.  The Guards might be confident enough in a combination of Manzardo, Jhonkensy Noel, and super-utilityman David Fry to take over first base in the event that Naylor is traded, or a lower-cost veteran could be acquired to provide more depth.  It can easily be argued that a Guardians team even with Naylor back is still in need of more offense, so trading Naylor could put Cleveland in need of finding an even bigger bat for the outfield.

The trade-and-replace routine has become familiar over the years in Cleveland, and the fanbase might grit their teeth at the idea of dealing away another prominent player for payroll-related reasons.  Moving Naylor in particular has a unique layer of potential awkwardness since his brother Bo will presumably remain on Cleveland’s roster, thus breaking up the fun idea of a family connection at the heart of the lineup.

Still, the Guardians’ tactic of trading players rather than just letting them walk in free agency has allowed the club to continually reload both the farm system and the active roster.  Antonetti doesn’t have a spotless track record with his deals, yet Antonetti’s high batting average on the trade market has helped the Guards post winning records in 10 of the last 12 seasons, with seven postseason trips in that span.  Finding the right match on a Naylor trade this winter might result in Cleveland getting back to the playoffs next fall.

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  1. jsklfc

    7 months ago

    Cool article although the big reveal here was that people say “the Cleve?!?”

    You really do learn something every day

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    • braveshomer

      7 months ago

      Hahaha, I’m referring to nice Cleavage as the “the Cleve” from now on…thx Mark lol

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      • Flanster

        7 months ago

        Works for me!!

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    • Michael Chaney

      7 months ago

      I live in northeast Ohio and I honestly don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone call it that lol

      I’ve occasionally heard it called the CLE, but the point still stands.

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  2. LordD99

    7 months ago

    Seems likely to be traded this offseason, with Manzardo taking over.

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    • bucsfan0004

      7 months ago

      His career earnings are like $9-10MM. He’s going to be highly motivated to put up a good season next year to get a nice payday. They should never trade him; just reap the benefits of a motivated player putting up good numbers for a playoff team

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      • Big whiffa

        7 months ago

        I’d be looking to take Pirates to the cleaners in a deal for some young pitching

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        • DDRAIG

          7 months ago

          Nutting has final say on all trades and he is not going to line up for paying big dollars for Josh in the future. There will be no taking the Pirates to the cleaners because Nutting visits his money everyday.

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      • mrmackey

        7 months ago

        You would think, but dude is a land whale. Really let himself go in 2024.

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        • solaris602

          7 months ago

          I noticed the same thing, and I don’t recall another player who actually gained considerable weight in season like Naylor did. You’d have to eat a large pizza every meal and wash it down with a gallon of chocolate milk to put on the kind of weight he did.

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      • Tigers3232

        7 months ago

        The whole walk year thing is overblown. People love to point to it when it fits that’s narrative but absolutely ignore all the times it does not.

        The majority of pro athletes have worked extremely hard to get to that level and continue to so to stay there. This notion that there’s this extra untapped that they re holding back that comes out is kind of a stretch.

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        • JoeBrady

          7 months ago

          I think you under-estimate human nature. If this was my walk year, I’d spend the entire off-season in the gym, hire a chef, not have another beer, etc. And I wouldn’t go out during the season.

          And that doesn’t even include mother’s little helpers.

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        • Tigers3232

          7 months ago

          @Joe I ll give you the players being in better shape. Even some pro athletes succumb to weakness and temptation when it comes to diet and training. The effort for the game though I just don’t believe in by and large.

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        • JoeBrady

          7 months ago

          I’ll give you the effort part. No one goes up to bat without looking for a hit.

          But there are a lot of people out there that just maintain. I think I do okay relative to most people my age. But if someone were to offer me $1,000,000 to lose 15 pounds, be able to bench my body weight, and be able to run a 10k, I’d make a really good effort at doing so.

          But i also wouldn’t wager that I could maintain that effort once I got paid.

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  3. avenger65

    7 months ago

    Naylor wore down as the season went on? Perhaps he can get some advice on staying fit from Lance Lynn.

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    • Blackpink in the area

      7 months ago

      Lol yeah I noticed in the playoffs he looked fat.

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      • Big whiffa

        7 months ago

        Fat ? Looked like John Kirk out there. Dude rounds second like he’s headed back to the buffet line

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      • Non Roster Invitee

        7 months ago

        Me too. Wifey says he needs to lose 30 pounds of belly fat. Looks like Pablo Sandoval.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          7 months ago

          If he remains in Cleveland, does anyone believe the team would extend the QO next off season? Too much risk in him accepting. This, between now and the next deadline, he should be traded.

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        • Gwynning

          7 months ago

          In theory dewey, if he has a big walk year then he’s young enough to get a fairly large multi-year deal offered, QO attached or not. He’d pass the QO to take a multi-year.

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        • solaris602

          7 months ago

          I would trade him over the winter for primarily that reason. I shudder to think what kind of shape he’ll be in by spring training. Reminds me when Terry Pendleton’s performance deteriorated as his weight obviously increased. When the Braves required him to weigh in, Pendleton hilariously responded, “I ain’t steppin’ on no scale!!!”

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        • JoeBrady

          7 months ago

          It reminds me of when the Raiders drafted Russell. He was 40 pounds overweight in college. If he was that overweight when he had all the motivation in the world, what made the Raiders think he would be in better shape after they gave him $40M?

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  4. jayceincase

    7 months ago

    There would be no low cost veteran needed. Of the current Guardians, Manzardo was mentioned, but neither Big Christmas nor David Fry. They have plenty of in house contenders for those AB’s and by season’s end, CJ Kaymus may be getting a look as well.

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  5. avenger65

    7 months ago

    In the Cleve? Does anyone in Cleveland call it that?

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    • ohiodevil 2

      7 months ago

      Nope

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      7 months ago

      But whenever cleavage is spotted in the wild, that’s what we now call it, mad props to @braveshomer.

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  6. dixoncayne

    7 months ago

    So he may or may not be traded and the Guardians might not get a lot for him, but he could be line for a lucrative free agent deal.

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  7. positively_broad_st

    7 months ago

    Cleveland should trade both of the Naylor brothers to Toronto and be done with both of them…

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    • jdgoat

      7 months ago

      As a Toronto fan I agree

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      • bestone

        7 months ago

        Maybe send Atkins and Shapiro back to “the Cleve”

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    • Joeypower

      7 months ago

      Please do!

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  8. good vibes only

    7 months ago

    I don’t personally think they’ll get much in return for a trade here and should keep him for their ’25 run. For the M’s I hope they look elsewhere.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      7 months ago

      I think 12 million is a little too expensive for Stanton…

      Who knows they might throw 3 million at Carlos Santana and call him a future HOFer and bat him 3rd

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      • just_breathe

        7 months ago

        Santana might win Gold Glove and had a wrc+ of 114. Do you think $3 million will get it done even at his age?

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    • myaccount2

      7 months ago

      I think we’ve reached the point where we don’t get to be too picky. Are we really going to land someone who produces more or is better value? His 31 HRs all would have been HRs in T-Mo, too. We need a middle of the order bat who can knock it out and RF was made for LH pull hitters here. Statcast page is mostly red. He chases but doesn’t K frequently.

      I’m all for it. I don’t think he’ll cost a ton.

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      • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

        7 months ago

        He’s too roley-poly and an injury risk. I saw him struggle for breath just after taking a swing in the playoffs.

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    • debubba

      7 months ago

      I think they package Naylor and Thomas to some team. Both are in the last year of arbitration and it would free up about 20 mil to go get a pitcher and restock the farm system.

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  9. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    7 months ago

    I hope that Cleveland ownership is willing to raise the payroll enough to keep Josh because it makes no sense to move him when you are at the top of the division

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    • Blackpink in the area

      7 months ago

      They have Manzardo. My concern would be pocketing the money saved. If they spend it they could be better off for it.

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    • Big whiffa

      7 months ago

      Pay em ? They can’t even afford to feed him

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      • mlb fan

        7 months ago

        Afford to feed him”…Cleveland could save MILLIONS on the post game spread just by trading Josh Naylor.

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  10. Blackpink in the area

    7 months ago

    I agree he’s probably going to be traded. Doubt they get much for him. Lot of teams need 1b help but there are a lot of 1b available.

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  11. Damn Yankee$

    7 months ago

    My big take away from him was how he seemed to rise to the occasion in the playoffs. That is a metric that analytics can’t tell you about.

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    • runningwithnailclippers

      7 months ago

      You can literally look at his production from the playoffs and the metrics will (or will not) support your claim.

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      • Damn Yankee$

        7 months ago

        The eyeball test tells you what you need to know. Analytics don’t measure pressure situations or the human element.

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        • Tigers3232

          7 months ago

          You might want to see an optometrist then. The last planet was discovered billions of miles away with math. When people try and dismiss #s derived with math with such things as “the eyeball test” it’s kind of laughable.

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        • Damn Yankee$

          7 months ago

          Analytics will never be able to replace the eyeball test. Laugh all you want, nerd. =)

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        • Tigers3232

          7 months ago

          Naylor was 9 for 40(.225) with 2 extra base hits both doubles those postseason. You should try actually watching or looking at stats before referencing “the eyeball test” you dork.

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        • Damn Yankee$

          7 months ago

          You’re proving my point, dick. If you had watched those games, you would have seen most of those nine hits in big spots. It’s not all about statistics.

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        • DDRAIG

          7 months ago

          WRONG.

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        • JoeBrady

          7 months ago

          YankeesWin
          You’re proving my point, dick. If you had watched those games, you would have seen most of those nine hits in big spots.
          ================================
          He only had 3 RBIs in the playoffs this season. One was in a 7-0 win, and two were in a loss. He didn’t win any playoff games for them this year.

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        • Damn Yankee$

          7 months ago

          But he was getting on base at times when Cleveland needed it. That’s a terrible argument that he didn’t win any games for them.

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        • Tigers3232

          7 months ago

          The guy hit .225 with 2 extra base hits(both doubles). Teams need much more production from 1B in the playoffs.

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        • JoeBrady

          7 months ago

          But he was getting on base at times when Cleveland needed it.
          ==============================
          9 hits and 2 walks in 10 games is weak.

          Or put another way, in the ALDS, there was only one one-run. Naylor went 1-5 with a single, no walks, no RBIs, and no runs scored.

          In the ALCS, there were no one-run games, but in the 2 extra-inning games, Naylor went 1-7 with 2 walks. he didn’t do anything.

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  12. Pete’s Sake

    7 months ago

    “The Cleve” may have originated on TV’s “30 Rock” when Tina Fey asked Alec Baldwin about visiting Cleveland, and the overworked Baldwin replied, “Don’t you think I’d love to flee to the Cleve?” The phrase got some buzz at the time but fizzled. With “Cle” now on their uniforms, I think that ship has sailed.

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  13. CKinSTL

    7 months ago

    Naylor is a solid player and fun to watch.. but he is defensively limited, had a gruesome leg injury, and isn’t in great shape. Certainly a guy that warrants some caution when evaluating an extension.

    I would not be surprised if he did not get traded this offseason. If Cleveland doesn’t get an offer to their liking, they can just hang onto him and reevaluate at the deadline.

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    • Acoss1331

      7 months ago

      If the Cubs didn’t have Busch, I’d be advocating for a Naylor trade, but no need for him now.

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    • Indiansjoe

      7 months ago

      Realistically I don’t see him traded. You can’t get anything valuable for him, they don’t need back of the rotation arms and you can’t replace his production for less than he will make. Trading him is a lose lose situation for them. Everyone thinks he will get traded because they don’t want to get nothing for him isn’t considering that you can’t get less than what he gives you either. Noel and Manzardo aren’t proven enough yet, he is the safety net

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      • Samuel

        7 months ago

        Indiansjoe;

        Agreed.

        He also protects José Ramírez when batting. I’ve noticed the Guardians have a terrible time producing runs and winning when Ramírez isn’t hitting. This isn’t rotisserie league where stats determine wins. When teams shut down Rameriz it doesn’t matter how good the pitching is.

        Those youngsters look good on paper. On the field opposing pitchers will routinely pitch around Rameriz (they do at times of the year anyway). The only way he gets a ball to drive is if the pitcher makes a big mistake. Every manager in MLB knows that Rameriz is the only Guardian hitter that can beat you most games.

        If anything the Guardians should be looking for another RBI guy.

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  14. User 2770661946

    7 months ago

    Trades are a thing of the past. Drafting, developing and a fiscally conservative approach in free agency is where it’s at. Get with it, You people and your trade this guy for that guy are lost. Wake up and embrace the new era.

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    • kodion

      7 months ago

      Trades still happen. You might miss them while in concussion protocols

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    • Big whiffa

      7 months ago

      One sided trades are still part of the equation. Pirate fans be shaken in their boots. Send naylor and a quality pen arm to Pitt and they’ll give u to starting pitchers for next 1/2 a decade

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      • bucsfan0004

        7 months ago

        You obviously know nothing about the Pirates

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      • layventsky

        7 months ago

        It seems the Padres are due for another fleecing. They could certainly use an upgrade at 1B, but do they have anyone that CLE would want?

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        • debubba

          7 months ago

          Merrill, please. Thomas, Naylor and one of their bullpen arms that are not in the top three for Merrill and some pitching SD will never develop.

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      • DDRAIG

        7 months ago

        NUTTING!

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    • mlb fan

      7 months ago

      “Trades are a thing of the past”…Trades are still a huge tool in the playbook of any useful, competent GM.

      Don’t you think that acquiring a certain Cy Young winner(Chris Sale)for an iffy SS with numerous health questions(V.Grissom)has proven beneficial to the Braves?..

      Other than you trashing trades, I agree with much of what you said. Being overly reliant on Uber expensive free agents is usually a bad deal for teams.

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    • debubba

      7 months ago

      Juan Soto, and his 22 postseason on base streak in the playoffs, might have something to argue with you about about.

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    • EnglishM

      7 months ago

      Trader Jerry is coming to find you Michael Myers style this Halloween…

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    • BigV

      7 months ago

      You’re right. It’s the right way

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  15. thickiedon

    7 months ago

    Cardinals? I like the idea of him replacing Goldschmidt. Could be a huge year for him heading into free agency and $12MM seems doable for StL. Considering they’ll have an abundance of players on last year of contracts, this could be a prosperous time for them come trade deadline. Basically, I see him as a way to improve prospect depth in July.

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  16. Zippy the Pinhead

    7 months ago

    The Mariners aren’t trading for him or anyone else of value. It just cuts into the profits.

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    • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

      7 months ago

      Hahaha find new material please

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  17. In nurse follars

    7 months ago

    How nice it would have been to have junior caminero and yanier diaz in the lineup with manzardo, bazzana, giminez, ramerez, kwan, delauter and noel.

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    • Jackalopal

      7 months ago

      I will say- Naylor looks more like a red sox player than anyone I’ve ever seen.

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    • JRamHOF

      7 months ago

      Gotta move on my guy

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    • debubba

      7 months ago

      If we had Caminero and Diaz , we would have never got Manzardo and Thomas. You could say the same thing about anyone we have traded away. What about Tatis Jr?

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  18. PistolPete44

    7 months ago

    Put his fat bass on a diet

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  19. User 2770661946

    7 months ago

    If the series goes to a game six, I can see the Dodgers inviting the Menendez brothers to throw out the first pitch with a standing ovation from all the LA progressives.

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  20. ClevelandSpidersFromMars

    7 months ago

    Josh is a fun guy to have on the team. He once head-butted manager Francona in sheerjoy, so you have to be prepared. But seriously, gotta send him to the NL. Don’t want him regularly torturing the “Cleves.” Unless you trade both Naylors to the Athletics to join their brother.
    Won’t get too much for him this year, but that $12M has to go. Get some lottery tickets & move on.

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    • runningwithnailclippers

      7 months ago

      I wonder if he would be happy to play for Francona again? The Reds could potentially use his bat in GABP.

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      • layventsky

        7 months ago

        Unless they want to DH him regularly, they probably don’t have room for him. As it is, Steer is displaced because they have CES at 1B.

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  21. Lonniemac

    7 months ago

    He should probably work on getting in better shape for next year. Can’t see his performance getting any better when he just keeps getting bigger.

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    • Acoss1331

      7 months ago

      Not to pile onto the hefty weight issue, but he does need to trim down. It’s only to his benefit, long-term it will damage his knees.

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  22. User 228032946

    7 months ago

    I think the pirates might have learned their lesson with overweight first baseman

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    • Acoss1331

      7 months ago

      Rowdy Tellez has entered the chat.

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      • Major League Baseball Fan

        7 months ago

        Don’t forget me!
        ~ Daniel Vogelbach

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      • Big whiffa

        7 months ago

        He joined the WWE.

        ROWDY ROWDY T-E-L-L-E-Z !!!!!!

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    • bigdaddyk

      7 months ago

      They need run production and power. 12 million is just 2 million more than they paid chapmen

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    • thickiedon

      7 months ago

      Jon Singleton pulls up a chair

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    • AHH-Rox

      7 months ago

      Trying to recapture the magic of Willie Stargell.

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    • Major League Baseball Fan

      7 months ago

      Josh Naylor. Josh Bell. I see similarities.

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  23. 3 finger split

    7 months ago

    The good thing for Naylor is that with the body type he has he is less likely to pull something compared to someone that is so “Rocked” up that the slightest fast twitch muscle will either cramp or pull.

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  24. Longtimecoming

    7 months ago

    “Ward, weren’t you a little tough on the Cleve?”

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  25. C Yards Jeff

    7 months ago

    DeLauter’s foot issue problematic? If so and Josh goes, try him at 1b?

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  26. FullMontilla

    7 months ago

    He’s MLB’s overweight lover!
    ‘I love it when ya call me Big Pa-pa’

    They should sell high, but don’t the Naylor boys come as a package?
    OMG there’s so much innuendo in the last part of that sentence

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  27. CO Guardening

    7 months ago

    Naylor is a big part of that locker room. I think Cleveland would be best running it back, but moving some options to 1B could open up DH and RF. Angel Martinez deserves a good look but Lane Thomas should be a lock for CF next season.

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    • Michael Chaney

      7 months ago

      I think Angel would be perfect in the role that they used Schneemann (and Arias before him) in last year. He can still get pretty consistent at bats and bounce around to play a few different positions.

      It doesn’t seem like they trust him as a shortstop but he could play second or third and anywhere in the outfield. Plus he’s a switch hitter and they love that kind of flexibility.

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      • CO Guardening

        7 months ago

        They seem all in on Rocchio at SS without really giving anyone else not named Arias a real shot.
        Naylor’s 30HRs was a welcome sight but he was a different player from about June onward. June 23- May24 he was probably top 5 player in the game. Regardless, I think they should hang on to him through next season and roll the dice.

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  28. whosehighpitch

    7 months ago

    Do a story where a trade candidate get is Alec Bohm. Cause if that guy has another AB in Philly he’s gonna get eviscerated. Better off if he’s an opposing player. And if I were DD I would make sure that whoever I trade him to does not play in Philly this year

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  29. Michael Chaney

    7 months ago

    I don’t hate the idea of trading him and reallocating that ~$12 million or so when you presumably have Manzardo as an immediate replacement, but there’s a lot that would need to happen for it to make sense.

    Since he only has one year left and is a first baseman only, I really don’t know if they’d get enough back to make it worth subtracting from your lineup. If they can get a controllable young hitter or a backend starter then I’d go for it, but I don’t think I see anyone paying that price when it seems like you can take your pick of one-dimensional first basemen every offseason. He’s a surprisingly capable defender and his strikeout and walk rates are decent (even if he goes through a few incredibly frustrating phases of chasing and expanding the zone), but it’s also not like his type of player is hard to find.

    You’re also banking on Manzardo maintaining what he showed in September and October and not dealing with growing pains or hitting like what he did in his initial call up, and for a team that plans on contending again, there’s risk in that even if it makes sense long term.

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    • Samuel

      7 months ago

      Michael Chaney;

      Here’s my problem….

      I didn’t think the Yankees were all that good this year. Yet they blew the Guardians out of the water in that series. Something’s wrong. I don’t know what they’re considering doing as the FO prepares for 2025.

      It seems to reason that the O’s, Tigers, and Royals will be better going into 2025. Their youngsters gained experience this year. They will be playoff competition along with the Yankees…..quite possibly the Rays as well (Red Sox and Mariners outside chance).

      My guess is that the Guardians hedge some, and unless presented with a knockout offer will go into the season with Naylor. They’ll hope he stays healthy and productive so if they realize they’re weaker than other possible playoff teams they can move him in-season. Then again, they did that going into 2024 with Bieber………

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      • Gtfdrussell

        7 months ago

        Blew them out of the water? So, you didn’t actually watch the games. Got it.

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        • CO Guardening

          7 months ago

          No, the Yankees weren’t that great this year, but Cleveland didn’t get enough out of their starting pitching to contend. Frankly the American League as a whole was underwhelming.

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  30. John Bird

    7 months ago

    Giants could use a LH power bat at DH and have a lot of young pitching.

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  31. ActionDan

    7 months ago

    $12 million has always been too rich for Cleveland to pay. There are exceptions of course. It’s mainly why Manny Ramirez, Jim Thome Francisco Lindor and Cliff Lee were able to get away. BUT what they had in the minors or in return for those have kept them among the division favorites for 15+ years. Player development is what they do best.

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  32. panj341

    7 months ago

    I have to laugh every time one of your articles mention the Pirates interest. Never going to happen with this ownership so you can leave their name out. You seem to try to give us Pirate fans hope but we know better.

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    • bigdaddyk

      7 months ago

      Why they literally have spent 10 million on chapmen. 7 million went to Taylor and Tellez combined. 8 million went to Perez so they can easily afford 15 million to an actual impact bat

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  33. rond-2

    7 months ago

    Should of went to the Pirates last year, so maybe this year ??

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  34. texasbug

    7 months ago

    The Astros need a first baseman with some power and can help at first base.

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  35. Dorn’s Contract

    7 months ago

    He’s our second best hitter for a team that struggles with offense. I’m not sure where you are going to replace his contribution. Trading just 1 brother might not sit well in the clubhouse. At the same time, he might be the oldest 28 year old I’ve ever seen. He’s always hobbling like Kirk Gibson. I’d like Cleveland to keep him.

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  36. gv84

    7 months ago

    I don’t think the Guardians will be able to move Josh… and they’re not interested. His salary through arbitration is the most he’s going to make for his skillset, which will not spur much interest from other teams unless we move him for next to nothing. Also, his clubhouse presence with brother Bo behind home plate means more to the front office. That being said, he played sub-par defense and hit pretty close to exactly league average. He had well over 600 at-bats with Kwan and Ramírez in front of him. Props to him being healthy this season, but David Fry would out-produce him at the plate and defensively given that many at-bats. He’s the type of player that will probably have a career contract year. If we’re going to the playoffs, he’s staying and won’t produce anything vs. good pitching. If we’re out of contention, he’s gone at the deadline for sure. He’s the type of player that drives Cleveland fans crazy.

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  37. CATS44

    7 months ago

    Naylor’s is an interesting situation.

    He is a solid and consistent hitter from season to season and even better with the game on the line.

    He hit in fairly bad luck this season, with the lowest BABIP. Looking at statcast numbers, none of them vary much from year to year. He hits the ball hard, while not striking out. Overall, he has a very good profile.

    The Guardians couldn’t buy his production and consistency for $12 mil, and trading him won’t make them a better team. As it is, Cleveland needs a solid bat with some pop. If they trade Naylor, they would need two.

    MLB no longer values corner bats with no defensive value or versatility, so the return in trade wouldn’t bring much….certainly not the reliable, decent starting pitcher that Cleveland does need.

    My guess is that Cleveland will listen to every offer made, but the most they could get is two mid level prospects. If one of them happens to be a MLB ready starting pitching prospect with a decent track record and a profile that fits what their development people look for, Cleveland will listen hard…but thats maybe the most valued asset in baseball.

    More than many other orgs, Cleveland values clubhouse presence. The FO has said before that it signs the man as much as the player. Naylor is a plus in the clubhouse.

    It’s also not exactly true that Cleveland trades away its players before they reach free agency. They didn’t trade Bieber, nor did they trade Michael Brantley nor Andrew Miller.

    I have doubts that Cleveland will trade Naylor, unless overwhelmed by an offer.

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