10:36pm: Adam Jude of the Seattle Times reports that while the Mariners and Guardians have indeed discussed Naylor, it’s not expected that Cleveland will deal him to Seattle after offloading the Gimenez contract. That aligns with Lloyd’s earlier reporting that Cleveland seemed increasingly likely to hold Naylor.
1:26pm: As the Mariners search for first base upgrades this winter, they’ve had some talks with the Guardians about Josh Naylor, per Jon Morosi of MLB Network. There’s no indication the two parties are in any sort of advanced negotiations, but the fit is a natural one for an M’s club looking to improve its offense and a Guardians squad that has been open to offers on Naylor and outfielder Lane Thomas as they enter their final seasons of club control.
Naylor, 27, is projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz to earn $12MM this coming season before reaching free agency next winter. He’s fresh off a career-high 31 homers and a .243/.320/.456 batting line (118 wRC+) with a 9.2% walk rate and just a 16.6% strikeout rate. The Mariners have been vocal over the past year-plus about wanting to scale back on their teamwide strikeout rate. Adding power and simultaneously reducing strikeout rate are often at odds with one another, but Naylor is the type of bat who can help them achieve both goals simultaneously.
A trade of Naylor for a Cleveland club that just re-signed Shane Bieber and is clearly intent on contending in 2025 might seem counterproductive at first glance, but the perennial tightrope walk of trading quality veterans for young talent while still trying to field a winning club is nothing new for the Guards. They just unloaded Andres Gimenez and his contract in what amounted to a three-team trade bringing hard-throwing righty Luis Ortiz to Cleveland from Pittsburgh. That dropped their expected payroll to around $97MM, per RosterResource. Shedding Naylor would scale that back to $85MM while opening time for Kyle Manzardo at first base (and perhaps creating more room for some smaller-scale free agent additions).
At the same time, it should be noted that a trade of Naylor isn’t a foregone conclusion. The Athletic’s Jason Lloyd wrote recently that he’d gotten the sense a trade of the slugging first baseman was becoming less likely, as the Guards weren’t impressed with anything offered up by other clubs. (A single text or phone call can change that, of course.) Understandably, Cleveland isn’t going to move a player of Naylor’s ability just to shed payroll; they’d need to feel they’re getting legitimate value in return — especially since with a season comparable to his 2022-24 showings, a then-28-year-old Naylor will be a qualifying offer candidate next offseason.
For the Mariners, Naylor would provide a boost to a club that saw Justin Turner reach free agency at season’s end. Turner was the club’s primary first baseman down the stretch last year after a deadline trade bringing him to Seattle. The M’s have Luke Raley as an option at first base, but he could also mix into the outfield and at designated hitter. Prospect Tyler Locklear is ready for a big league look, but a postseason hopeful like the Mariners might not want to just hand first base to an unproven 24-year-old who posted league-average numbers in Triple-A last season and slashed .156/.224/.311 with a 41% strikeout rate in his first 49 MLB plate appearances.
The M’s also have interest in bringing either Turner or veteran Carlos Santana back to Seattle. (Santana played with the M’s in 2023.) The team’s top priority at the moment seems to be upgrading at first base, then adding help at either third or second base — likely the former. In-house options like Dylan Moore, Ryan Bliss and (eventually) top prospect Cole Young could factor in at second base if the end result is upgrading at both corners.
Naylor’s projected salary likely fits within the Mariners’ reported budget — about $15MM to spend, give or take, per Adam Jude of the Seattle Times — but probably doesn’t leave room for another notable addition. The Mariners would surely love to find a way to unload the contracts of Mitch Haniger $15.5MM in 2025) and/or Mitch Garver ($12.5MM in 2025), but either would be a tall task. The presence of those cumbersome contracts, coupled with a second offseason headlined by a tight budget from ownership, make another round of trades from the ever-active Seattle front office likelier than a series of free-agent splashes aimed at once again revamping an offense that has struggled to produce in a highly pitcher-friendly setting.
Whatever…..
Key word is “have”, not currently lol
Right, guardians always listen. It helps them known what they have as a commodity.
I’ve been advocating for this because Naylor’s power would actually play at T-Mo. If I recall correctly, all 31 of his HRs last season would have also been homers in Seattle by distance (although the marine layer may knock down one or two in April). The Mariners badly need middle of the order thump and he wouldn’t cost much in prospect capital or salary.
I think we M’s fans have to collectively stop being picky about where the offense comes from and be happy about whatever upgrades the front office makes. Two straight years of being 1 GB means an additional such as Naylor could be critical for the lineup.
Going to that park ruins hitters. Its so ridiculous. Rarely see a successful power hitter or even good hitter.
Actually, the multi-million dollar report the Mariners commissioned revealed data that shows pure power hitters have had the most success of all hitter types since Safeco Field’s inception. It’s gap to gap hitters that fail because the ball hangs up milliseconds longer due to the marine layer, allowing less athletic and defensively skilled outfielders to get to the ball and make putouts.
Interesting.
It ruined teo, Garver , winker , Polanco starts to the year. Hitting shots they thought would go out only to die at the warning track. They try and play catch up the rest the season.
Easy offense upgrade, move the fences in
Ruining their starts to the season and ruining them for an entire season or an entire tenure are two entirely differently things.
What player wants to look at his stats on the 90’ scoreboard after April /May in Seattle. Julio hits bombs and he missed many hr in the early months. Just takes a couple to put you in a funk and look to a swing change or over swing
Ive heard on a podcast that its been trend that RHP numbers go up a bit while hitters numbers fall due to the way the batters eye plays in Seattle.
@takerdbacks, Ya, Nelson Cruz was awful
Juice ball era when him and cano were in Seattle
A trade would scale Cleveland’s payroll to 85MM!!!!! That’s lower than it was in 2001! When are the Dolan’s going to start getting called out for this! That is almost criminal
So glad I root for mid tier cheapskates (M’s) rather than HOF cheapskates like Cleveland. They’ve had and cheaply lost so much talent since 2019.
It Dec 18 don’t get excited. Seattle has young starting pitching to offer for naylor. Cleveland tops prospects 9 out 10 are hitters. In 2024 was josh first year he played 152 games. In his career he average 122 games due to injures. And with his physical condition won’t offer him more then a 3 year contract. Anything more then 3 years is going to be a bad contract.
@ cromer, they done trade good, young, cheep SP for 1 years of a good hitter! AND have you heard that their young SP are not available, off the table, non starter of any trade conversation. Dont know why everyone keeps saying they need to, should, have to, trade one of thier starters for a big bat. What we’ll probably see is afew young players or mid level prospects for : Nico, Diaz or whoever they acquire. Kinda like the Raley or Arozarena trades.
would you rather have Seattle payroll or Cleveland record since 2001
It is. Dolan one of the wealthiest owners in baseball. His investment has skyrocketed in value with not a dime coming from his pocket. Fans came out to see a winner but Dolan is content to sit back and spend little. Cleveland is a smaller market but they aren’t desolate. The only thing Dolan is poor in is his excuse for contributor to the Cleveland community. We deserve better
Jeez…not another guy demonstrating ignorance of the facts associated with Cleveland baseball ownership. How about doing some real research and not paying attention to whatever lazy reporting you’ve come across? The truth is, the Dolans who own the baseball team in Ohio are not to be confused with the New York Comcast-owning, Knicks-owning Dolans. The Cleveland Dolans are “poor” relatives who possess no mountain of wealth outside the equity of the ballclub, making them one of least capitalized ownerships in ALL of sports, much less baseball. You want to criticize the Cleveland Dolans for their politics, fine, and for thinking they can swim among the deep pockets in baseball, fine, but calling them out because you believe they are “one of the wealthiest owners” in baseball is just dumb. As is any fans’ expectation that owners will spend much beyond the revenues a market generates. To expect that is even dumber than thinking the Dolans are part of the upper crust in the game. Travis Sawchick of the Sporting News recently reported on all teams’ spending as a ratio of revenues and–surprise!–Cleveland was smack dab at the median, right where any reasonable person knew they’d be. But Cleveland fan? They are as unreasonable, ignorant, and unappreciative as they come.
Perhaps you’d better check your sources better. Larry Dolan Not to be confused with the New York Dolans has a net worth of near 5 billion which ranks him sixth amongst mlb owners. This site even confirmed that earlier this year. So yes they are amongst the upper crust and Cleveland fans can hardly be considered unreasonable ignorant and unappreciative when they sell the park out when the team wins. What’s there reward? Cut payroll and fielding a AAA quality team
Utter and complete nonsense, I don’t care what “this site” says, it’s merely citing the same poor, simplistic research you keep repeating.
When writing for The Athletic several years back, local journalist Jason Lloyd (no fan of the Dolans, mind you) tried to set rubes like you straight, but clearly it didn’t take. As he pointed out:
“Don’t conflate Larry and Paul Dolan with New York’s father-son duo of Charles and James. Charles is Larry’s billionaire brother and the founder of Cablevision. Larry is a retired Cleveland attorney. The blood may be the same, but the money sure ain’t. The baseball team is Larry and Paul’s primary source of income. This isn’t a family that made billions in tech or real estate. They aren’t business moguls. There is no empire of wealth. They’re Clevelanders and huge sports fans who did well as attorneys and bought a team over two decades ago when there was a little more room for mom and pop stands in professional sports. But in that time, the game has changed for ownership groups, and now baseball is pricing them out of their own neighborhood.”
Now I understand this doesn’t fit your bitter and biased narrative of billionaire skinflints, but if you want to be angry at the Cleveland Dolans, be upset they are TOO POOR to be major league owners and stop with this this “upper crust” nonsense. It’s embarrassing.
I’ll give you credit. In the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary you still stand by your point. While not nearly as prestigious as the athletic. Forbes and money magazine among countless others have Larry Dolans (yes the retired attorney and not the cable Dolans) net worth over $4.7 billion. These are facts not a biased opinion. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but to insult others who have facts contrary in the snobbish fashion you have is what’s truly embarrassing
Clinging to untruths–in this case, a poorly written and researched Forbes article that was long ago discredited–is what creates cults. I now know you belong to one.
In Moneyball Cleveland was the bigshots with the fancy office and free nuts.
It has to be so frustrating to be a Guardians or Rays fan. These teams obviously both do a great job of identifying talent in the draft, international free agency, reclamation projects and via trade,, but neither team can hold on to their talented players for more than 4-5 years max (Jose Ramirez being the lone exception because he took a team friendly deal). Both teams tend to be competitive in more seasons than not and occasionally make a deep playoff run, but the point of owning a team is to win a World Series and try to defend it, not just get to the Division Series or lose in the finals, and then trade your talent away the following season due to salary concerns. There have been years when both teams were one or two good players away from potentially winning it all, but neither team would commit the necessary off season or mid season dollars to do so.
When was the last time a team with a payroll in the bottom 5-6 of the league won it all? I think the answer is at least 40-50+ years ago and that was a time when being in the bottom 5-6 meant your payroll was a few million dollars less than the Top 5-6 teams. Heck, you probably have to go back to the mid 90’s to find a team with a payroll under $100M who won the World Series.
I can’t imagine being a die hard fan of these types of teams knowing you’ll never have a legitimate chance to win a championship. Cleveland made it to the ALDS last year and now they are back to lowering payroll to ridiculous levels. Didn’t they just make an additional $10-$20M+ last year from playoff revenue? While I know a true salary cap will never happen in MLB (the players union is too strong), I do feel that a salary floor needs to be implemented to keep all teams competitive. Perhaps something like 50% of the first penalty level of the CBT? That would force teams like Cleveland to actually invest in their team and re-sign some of their talented players eligible for a sizable arbitration award or even pending free agents. If they can’t afford to do so, either sell the team or relocate the team to a market where they can fill 75%+ of the stadium every night. No other professional sports league allows teams to spend 1/3 or even 1/4 of the total salary of the highest payroll teams in the league. MLB doesn’t want these teams winning it all either as it would set a bad precedence. It’s a shame to see this as they have great front office staffs who could put together championship teams if they had the financial resources to do so.
Sorry for the novel
Their front office has done a good job in trading players before they become free agents. Compared to when front office has let them spend $$$ on multi year free agent signings. it’s the return on trades is what kept team competitive. example kluber for Clase who turned into All Star closer
It’s actually FUN to be a fan of Cleveland and Tampa and watch big markets look like doofuses as they waste hundreds of millions of dollars on ballplayers with scant results. Cleveland has been to more World Series and postseasons than pure chance would have them make, and it’s because they’re shrewd and resourceful, something Brian Cashman would never be accused of being. The goal is not to win a World Series–that’s just pure luck, heck, CLE has lost two World Series in extra innings of Game 7–it’s to be consistently competitive so you can have a chance in the lottery that’s baseball’s postseason. Yeah, it’s harder for small revenue teams given baseball’s economics, but no one said life is fair. And if being David to baseball’s Goliaths isn’t fun and a challenge to you, move on something else for your enjoyment. But please, stop with your pity; we’re enjoying our quixotic baseball teams and feel a greater sense of triumph when we succeed than any Yankees, Mets, or Dodger fan will ever experience.
OK who do they trade for him? They could use pitching right? Hancock feels a bit light. Logan Evans feels a little steep but seems in the ball park for a player of his caliber.
Just one year of a quality but non-elite 1B so I dont think it will take a ton to acquire him. I think he’s more valuable to the M’s than most teams because of pure desperation but I don’t forsee Dipoto overpaying drastically.
That’s why I floated those names. If he’s due 12 million there’s not much trade value. If it went beyond something like that would be stupid if them. I don’t feel he’s the most efficient use of payroll either with Raley already on the books, unless they want to trade Raley for a similarly valued player at another position.
Maybe I’m crazy but I think multiple years of Hancock for one year of a defensively-challenged 1B is an overpay (but one I might be ok doing as I think I’m higher on Naylor than most). I know Steve mentioned a couple 10-20 type prospects in the M’s farm system as being reasonable. I lean towards agreeing due to his limitations unless Cleveland wants bulk and would take 3 or 4 randoms.
Pease tell me what upside Hancock or Evans have. Hancock was awful in 2024 and Evans does not help the 2025 Guardians.
He’ll no just keep him then. Offer qualified offer at the end of the year and get a draft pick in 2026 between 1 and 2 round pick is 36 thru 39 competitive balance a pick.
@my
Santana?
After acquiring Ortiz and signing Bieber, I wonder if the primary focus has shifted to finding an OF’er. Cleveland is still light on SP.. but trading Naylor would be a big piece from their offense, which already isn’t very good.
CLE needs one more SP, and it won’t be Castillo because CLE “can’t afford” a contract like that. Hancock would probably be enough to get it done because of team control and low salary.
It won’t be Hancock either since he has little to no value.
My guess is that they will go find a pitcher to rehab, much like they have done in the past few years. If they trade Naylor, they need to replace his offense with an OF. Interesting enough, I heard that arias is playing RF in the winter league. Would Cleveland start out him there, and have brito at 2B to start the year?
Cleveland can use Arias, Freeman, Scheeman or bring up Brito. I hope that it is Brito. 2024 overall #1 pick Travis Bazzana is the future and he could arrive sometime later in 2025.
Put arias at shortstop and leave him there. Rocchio needs go to columbus learn how to hit and be mature. Arias has no more options. It time for arias to put up or shut up.
I am not an Arias fan. Rocchio showed more last season especially during the playoffs.
Arias, Freeman and Scheeman are barely triple A quality.
“Hey, do you know Josh Naylor?”
“Sure, he’s on our team.”
“Ok, just making sure.”
“See you later!”
That’s how I imagine this type of stuff.
Dipoto and Cleveland just flirting on the phone together
Cleveland: “Im edging just thinking about getting our payroll below 90 million”
Dipoto: “Will you pay half of Edging’s salary or take back Haniger?”
Many forget, Dipoto pitched for Cleveland.
So what. Trader Jerry would trade his mother wife and kids. Dude is on a ego trip.
Naylor is the best choice I have heard the Mariners consider for 1B yet. Santana is a good 2nd choice.
Based on expected cost, I would rather have Naylor than Casas.
And Casas would make it a guarantee? I doubt it. He had a nearly identical triple slash to Naylor last season. The Mariners don’t spend Dodgers or Yankees money so they need to be wise on how they acquire talent and what that talent costs.
sure, casas is the piece that puts them over the top
It will. Casas value is nowhere near what Red Sox fans want. If that’s any indication of the Red Sox opinion of him then yes, it will help them win because any trade for Casas is inherently a bad trade for every team in baseball. Casas currently projects for other teams as a way to guarantee losing value.
Boston doesn’t have to trade Casas but we did see his immense upside in the second half of 2023 when he was one of the best offensive players in the game. It’s why Boston isn’t trading him for Castillo and would require a one for one young cost controlled starter. 2024 was a lost season and if other teams want to trade for him based on that injury marred system Boston simply tells them to kick rocks. Casas power is real he would hit plenty of homers in Seattle.
I’m hopeful that Boston doesn’t trade him his upside is tremendous and we already saw it for a half season.
“Season”
EXACTLY. It seems like Casas would cost one of our Five SP’s and Naylor would not. Go get Naylor and up the trade offer and go get Cade Smith while you are at it. Logan Evans, Tai Peete or hope they would take Tyler Locklear, and Trent Thornton and pick up Thornton’s Tab. Then go trade with the Phillies for Bohm and you may have your team for 2025. You have two new pieces to the line-up that will help and the high leverage reliever to go with Munoz, Perhaps even go get Moncada to switch off at 2b with Moore (Moore hits lefties and Moncada hits righties).
Robles RF
Rodriguez CF
Naylor 1B
Raleigh C
Arozarena LF
Bohnm 3B
Raley DH
Moore 2b
Crawford ss
Of course Casas would cost a starter as opposed to Naylor: for one thing he’s controllable for 4 years as opposed to 1 for Naylor, and for another he’s not arb-eligible for another year, so he costs next to nothing for 2025 as opposed to ~$12 million. for Naylor.
Cleveland is coming off an appearance in the ALCS. Why would they trade for prospects and add Cade Smith? They have no need for Locklear. You can keep Trent Thornton and his salary. Think beyond your team and consider the needs and where both teams are at.
Logan Evans could quite possibly help the Guardians at some point this year. Tai Peete is a Top 100 prospect and they don’t grow on trees. All three could be with the Guardians for quite a while and at the same time there is a chance that Naylor is only with the Mariners for one year. I was thinking of both teams, got it?
Let’s hear what you would want back from the Mariners for Josh Naylor.
Because that’s exactly how Cleveland always operates. They don’t spend money they trade and keep the young cost controlled talent flowing.
Look at the trades that the Cleveland front office has made the past 5-10 years. In every trade their was a piece for now (2025) and a piece for later. Look at their most recent trade. They traded from two positions of strength and filled a weakness with Luis Ortiz for 2025 and added more pitching help. There is no 2025 component in your proposal. Evans “could possibly.” could just as easily be 2026. Peete is not a top 100 prospect. MLB Pipeline has him Seattle’s #11 prospect that is a far cry from a top 100 prospect. Peete has most of his experience in the infield which the Guardians have no need for. There is nothing to address their 2025 needs. Cleveland has Kyle Manzardo and two of their prospects #5 and #6 in their system that are 1B. Trent Thornton, be serious. How does trading Cade Smith make sense for the Guardians? It doesn’t. Again. look at the needs of both teams. You did not do that. Got it?
Usually not always. Several times, when contending, they kept a bat right up to free agency. Carlos Santana and Michael Brantley come to mind.
Cleveland’s needs are starting pitching and to add offense. with OF being the biggest need. As I stated in another post, any trade would likely have to help in 2025 as well as beyond. Trading Naylor further hurts the offense. If they trade him, more offense would have to be added either in the Naylor trade or in other moves. I don’t know what the Guardians are thinking as they rarely share their negotiations with any media.
Value matches up with a Naylor Castillo trade, but I wonder if Cleveland would take on his salary. Hancock doesn’t interest me, and your other prospect pitchers are not ready.
Personally, I would just keep Naylor to start 2025 unless they are able to sign or trade for more offense to replace Naylor.
I have followed Cleveland baseball since 1965. I am very aware of how they usually operate. I don’t see them wanting to take a step backward.
They also have several bullpen arms coming off injury and in the high minors that will make an impact.
Young pitching Kirby or miller.
Naylor is inspirational and fans would regret seeing anything other than a value for value baseball trade.
His gut is sure inspirational. I am afraid if the Mariners get him the gut will become a liability and he wouldn’t be able to get full extension with the bat. Plus we don’t need a 27 year old going on the IR with diabetes related issues. He’s too much of an injury risk and early skills diminshment due to his rotund factor, no thanks Cleveland needs to keep him.
Naylor doesnt have trade value like lane thomas. Thomas can steal bases hit with power and has cannon of a arm.
C’mon, let’s get real here. Both players have one year of control left. Both players are (at best) mediocre defenders (Naylor is, if anything, better with the glove at his position than Thomas is at his). Thomas may be able to steal bases, but he can’t steal first, and he’s a short-side platoon player (his career numbers vs. RHP are pretty awful) making him hardly a good everyday player on a good team. Naylor, by contrast, is a legitimate middle of the order power bat who blisters RHP. I’m a CLE fan, if I were to say goodbye to one or the other, Lane Thomas is the easy call.
With all the 1b on the market i don’t see how Naylor and his projected 12 million dollar salary has much value.
See an eye doctor. Naylor is also cost-controlled for 2026. Michael Conforto signed for $17M last week.
Naylor is a free agent after 2025.
Exactly. Even at 12 million he probably represents 8+ mil of surplus value
Naylor is coming off a 1.5 win season. He has 6 career WAR in over 2000 at bats. I dont think he’s worth 20 million.
WAR is a stupid stat, and this isn’t me trolling it’s just if WAR truly was the end all be all ALOT of GREAT players from really any era pre 2015 should have been paid the league minimum…. Dante Bichette for example, and while he was a bad defender any kid who grew up watching 90s MLB would acknowledge how much of a beast he was at the plate…. Doesn’t matter what his WAR is a 27 year old lefty having 30 homer 100 RBI potential, and it’s potential that is already being realized to an extent for 12 million which is essentially the price of a nice bench player on todays FA market isn’t something you can just grab anytime
Dante Bichette was terrible on defense in a park that defense really matters. He also played in the steroid era.
He is a free agent after 2025 season. Thanks for playing.
*I stand corrected.
He has to be worth more than the money to have trade value. Perhaps he’s worth a little more but not a lot.
If you could get his weight in gold you would have a lot of value in gold otherwise he’s an extreme health risk with cardiovascular issues and diabetes on the horizon if he doesn’t lose 100 pounds. No thanks Mariners don’t need that.
Luis Arraez
Louis Arise
Oh shoot! I did it wrong.
You’re garage lol
Forget Walker and Alonso…..Cashman needs to be ALL over this and get a deal done. 30 homer lefty power with the short porch and a low strikeout rate is what the Yankees need to help compensate for the loss of Soto.
He barely hit 30 hr one time
He’s still just 27, not expensive and would have the short porch in right. I’ll take that.
Yea he got a weight issue and will be propably out of mlb in 4 years unless he does something like a diet.
It was astonishing how much weight he put on last year during the season. It’s like he must have had a large pizza every day for breakfast and lunch, and an XL for dinner. Washed each down with a six pack. I’m hoping they trade him soon because I shudder to think what he’s gonna look like reporting for ST.
Yankees don’t have anything left to trade that cleveland would want. Yankees fans don’t want to see naylor puss in New york.
Yankees don’t have anything CLE wants? (eye roll)
Cleveland will not be looking for all prospects in any trade. They need MLB starting pitching and MLB OF to help replace Naylor’s offense. The Yankees have neither to offer. Do not respond with Stroman and Grisham. Stroman is an overpaid head case that Cleveland would never take. Grisham is another Myles Straw.
Martian will easily get it done …. probably could get a BP arm too
He’s also 34, a righty and said to want a 3 year deal. No thank you!
Cleveland is not trading Naylor to New York.
Just an unhappy dude, HJ? And if you are going to make comments and tell everyone that they are wrong, tell us what will happen. Easy to crap on everything, but have some original thoughts of your own.
Cleveland is coming off an ALCS appearance. Why would they make their chief competition better? Second, I don’t see a package that they Yankees can offer that would help the 2025 Guardians. Note that most of Cleveland’s biggest trades have been to National League teams. That is the reason I don’t see any trade with the Yankees. Think about it.
Big Red, are you capable of having a discussion without being rude and a jerk? I am very willing to discuss my comments, but I was raised to have respect for others.
Your comments are rude and condescending hockeyjohn that is why I commented the way I did in response to them.
All I stated is that you did not look at the needs of both teams.
How does it make sense for Cleveland to trade Cade Smith? It doesn’t. Does it make sense for Cleveland to pick up a bad contract? It doesn’t. Did your trade help the 2025 Guardians? It doesn’t. Sorry, I just didn’t agree with your proposal.
Seattle’s not a great place for lefties…
Not a great place for HRs for anyone rly
Naylor? Barely knew her
This feels like a fit. Probably discussing Castillo or some other SP. Guards have some 1B options in the minors. Naylor would do well in Seattle I think
Castillo maybe phone gets hung up if the others are mentioned
Depends if Guards throw in some good prospects.. who knows.
Not sure how i feel about his numbers, they are ok. Its easy to focus on the home runs.
Context still matters. Given what the Red Sox have allegedly been asking for in return, Casas would not appear to represent value to any team. It doesn’t matter how good a player is if you have to pay 200% his value to acquire him.
What a bunch of Mitches
This would be a good move if they don’t give up one of their 5 SPs. But maybe Cleveland could include some Ozempric in the deal? in the playoffs, Naylor looked like he was turning into Daniel Vogelbach.
Trade top prospects for top talent only please
This guy is unhinged and psychotic, please don’t.
Naylor is just as good of a hitter as Casas and he’s on a one year deal, meaning he’s cheaper to acquire. Casas also whiffs and Ks more than Naylor and is a worse defender. It’s not that difficult to understand why people prefer Naylor.
I’m pretty sure Morosi reported this same thing last year. He likes to throw crap at the wall when he reports to see what sticks. I don’t doubt that Naylor could be available given the way the Guardians operate, but Morosi isn’t exactly doing investigative journalism over here.
I’m sure the Guardians have had some level of discussions on every player, other than Jose.
Mariners need players who can get on base for Julio and Cal.
I don’t have a problem with this in theory because I’ve been advocating for the Mariners to go after Naylor for like three years now. But it doesn’t make sense in the context of Dipoto having made comments about not looking for rental contracts.
Would be a huge get for Mariners esp if they dont give up one of their 5 starters
If they don’t improve this offense, they might as well give up.
They need at least 2 bats. Naylor is one. One more and someone like Nico and they winning the division
1) Every team is interested in other teams players, and every team is willing to listen to offers. Thats not news, and it involves most of the players in MLB.
2) The reason that there are so many rumors about Naylor is that there is an assumption that Cleveland is always interested in trading its better players once they are in their last year of team control. The assumption is based on a false premise, because that’s not how the Guardians work when they truly expect to contend.
They did not trade Bieber last winter. Nor in the past have they traded soon to be free agents Michael Brantley, Andrew Miller, Cody Allen, Bryan Shaw, and Carlos Santana twice.
They have traded key players with more than a year to go when they were in total rebuild…Cliff Lee and Victor Martinez. And they have done that with key players who were problematic off the field and/or in the clubhouse…Bauer and Clevinger.
They did trade Kluber before his last year, but his arm was iffy in their minds, which proved to be prescient.
They also traded Lindor coming off the financial disaster of Covid, and being in a partial rebuild.
It is more likely that Naylor would be moved at the deadline, but only ifthe Guards flop.
The return would have to be ridiculous to do it now
Can’t help but think that Naylor is another guy like Alek Manoah and others who simply eat their way out of a great career. Naylor seems like he has success despite the fact that he’s pushing 3 bills. Same reason that Rafael Devers is heading toward permanent DH status. Can’t push away from the table.
He looked obese at season’s end. He has the eye-hand coordination to hit, but that much extra weight will cause issues in his 30s.
Reds would love to see Naylor at 1st base, Tito is rounding up old teammates for another World Series
(Cedric the Entertainer voice) “Josh is nailing their ass! Cuz he’s The Ass Naylor!”
I say we make a trade for new front office and ownership…