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The Opener: Arenado, Left-Handed Relief, White

By Nick Deeds | February 5, 2025 at 9:03am CDT

With the start of spring training now just a few days away, here are three things we’ll be keeping an eye on around the baseball world throughout the day today:

1. Arenado talks picking back up?

After weeks of radio silence on Nolan Arenado’s trade market, it appears there may be renewed movement on that Cardinals’ top offseason priority. Reporting indicated yesterday that St. Louis has had “recent communication” with the Red Sox regarding Arenado after talks had stalled last month. The Cardinals would surely prefer to move him in the next two weeks and avoid a potentially distracting storyline as the club opens camp. Of course, it remains possible (and perhaps even likely) that Arenado’s market will remain fairly stagnant until Alex Bregman signs somewhere in free agency.

2. Lefty relievers coming off the board:

Yesterday saw two of the top remaining lefty relief arms land contracts as the Twins brought in Danny Coulombe while the Yankees re-signed Tim Hill. For teams looking to add a southpaw to the bullpen, the market is becoming increasingly barren. Veteran lefty Andrew Chafin is the best option still on the board with Colin Poche, Drew Smyly, Jalen Beeks, and Ryan Yarbrough highlighting the remaining depth options. One other notable name on the market is veteran Brooks Raley, who has generally pitched quite well as a late-inning arm since returning to the majors from the KBO in 2020 but will not be ready for Opening Day after undergoing Tommy John surgery last summer.

3. DFA resolution expected today:

One week ago today, the Reds designated right-hander Owen White for assignment to make room for southpaw Taylor Rogers on the 40-man roster after acquiring him from the Giants. The one-week window for a player who’s been designated for assignment to either be moved or clear waivers is closing today, so a resolution can be expected this afternoon. White was placed on waivers by the Rangers earlier this offseason, leading to his claim by the Reds, but has not previously been outrighted in his career. That means that if the right-hander clears waivers, Cincinnati will have the opportunity to outright him to the minors as a non-roster depth option headed into the season.

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  1. bobloucks123

    4 months ago

    1. Arenado talks picking back up?

    How many months of that same question…
    And Bregman… enervating…

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    • NYCityRiddler

      4 months ago

      Let’s not forget Alonso….sapping

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      • choof

        4 months ago

        don’t forget about a new Dylan Cease trade article every 3 hours, plus every other chat question being about him as well

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        • tom brunanskys black sock

          4 months ago

          Neither of these are true.

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        • Hunteraustin

          4 months ago

          Don’t forget blue jays are in on everyone.

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        • tektmz

          4 months ago

          This, on the other hand, IS true

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      • 17dizzy

        4 months ago

        Why would anyone want to deal John Mozeliak of the Cardinals???

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    • Ol’ Uncle Charlie

      4 months ago

      Boston is possibly in on options regarding things and stuff, potentially…vexing.

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  2. Acoss1331

    4 months ago

    Communication between Cardinals and Red Sox? So Breslow called Mo and was like, “So, how’s Nolan doing?”

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    • tom brunanskys black sock

      4 months ago

      Does Nolan “like-like” me? 😮 /

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      • laynestaley2002

        4 months ago

        OK, this cracked me the eff up. Thank you,

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        • Kruk it

          4 months ago

          He’ll really really like you if you pay him

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      • MLBtheSho(hei)

        4 months ago

        Hahaha, comment of the week, no doubt

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    • Ol’ Uncle Charlie

      4 months ago

      Prom?

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  3. HEHEHATE

    4 months ago

    You know who I feel bad for here in the Arrenado situation most is Jordan Walker today. My god this one heck of a way to expect a player to sink or swim.

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    • avenger65

      4 months ago

      HEHEHATE: That’s what I was wondering. Walker was the heir apparent to Arenado, yet there’s been no mention of him. Last I heard his hitting was regressing, so maybe that’s the issue.

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      • HEHEHATE

        4 months ago

        The problem with Walker is the league figured out the book on him quickly. Cardinals knew this made their own adjustments and have just kept him back and forth over cementing him anywhere.

        It’s not a player issue more so than organizational fumbling and out right a lack of confidence of both sides.

        The problem is Walker needs to be Michael Harris today and he’s not even close to that. It’s infuriating if you ask me.

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    • HEHEHATE

      4 months ago

      At this point on the organizational depth no I think that’s out of the cards. Pun intended.

      Carlson, Goldy and Arrenado are or will be gone. And there’s no room for Walker but if there is he needs to be borderline knocking the door on as votes for any consideration.

      They owe him the keys like it or not. He should have demanded a trade last year, but again that’s out of the cards.

      He’s such a great personality for the game you really hate seeing the business side of things ruin a ball players promising career.

      Really rooting for this kids future it’s bright, but it needs to fly the coup just like the rest of the veterans gone for brighter and better opportunities.

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      • HEHEHATE

        4 months ago

        Walker should be a rising star in this league. Not an afterthought on a rebuilding ball club. Who today is lost for lack of a better word.

        For me blames on the front office vs player development alone.

        You can’t take candy from a baby and expect them to be at your jurisdiction in justification.

        It’s a shame that he’s being subjected to any of this on a team with no answers to any of their problems and the floundering divisional placement during his career.

        You can’t help an mlb team in AAA win games. You can help them lose for draft positioning though.

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      • Longinus

        4 months ago

        BITA, how do you figure that Walker “never” earned his job? He did well enough in the minors and spring training 2023 to win an MLB spot, and then put up a 113 OPS+ at age 21 in that first MLB season. He definitely earned that shot.

        If you want to say that his 2024 unearned it back, sure, fair argument. But not “never”.

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      • HEHEHATE

        4 months ago

        I don’t think he saw the recall up numbers before mlb. Walkers legit. He just needs to find his footing in another organization. It will not be St. Louis sadly.

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      • Larry Brown's crank

        4 months ago

        the Menendez brothers had great personalities also!

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      • HEHEHATE

        4 months ago

        They can’t hit a fastball though unfortunately.

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        4 months ago

        I can’t get into the debate because I really don’t know Walker but this reminds me of Boston and Bobby Dalbec who consistently hit at AAA but after a good beginning, the more he played, the more he was exposed.

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      • jmlang

        4 months ago

        Maybe it is a good thing that the Birds are focusing on player development. Because those players they keep bringing up have problems.

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      • HEHEHATE

        4 months ago

        That’s the cardinal way though.

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      • Flags in the wind

        4 months ago

        A handful of debuted 1st rounders all need to step forward. Amongst the selling posture, gains could be made by StL 0-3 players development at mlb.

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      • Fever Pitch Guy

        4 months ago

        dewey – MLB history is filled with players who began their career performing very well and then faded away. That’s because pitchers will always make adjustments, so it’s important for the hitter to make adjustments as well. If they don’t, they end up like Bobby Dalbec.

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    • Raleigh Four Fingers

      4 months ago

      Walker plays OF. Arenado makes no difference to his playing time.

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      • HEHEHATE

        4 months ago

        Correct but that lineup is anemic post Goldy and Arenado. I still envision Walker playing 1b over lf personally.

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      • Slider_withcheese

        4 months ago

        Walker plays RF after being named the Gatorade State Player Of The Year while playing 3B. Kinda makes sense his defense needs work out there. I mean he still is just 22yrs old.

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  4. Viveleempireevil

    4 months ago

    Arenado has never been the same player since leaving the Pet Rocks. At age 33, he makes too much money to justify a value trade.

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    • choof

      4 months ago

      nevermind the fact that he had the best season of his career with the Cardinals in 2022…..?

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      • Viveleempireevil

        4 months ago

        Yes. A single season. He had 8 with the Rockets.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          4 months ago

          Arenado is still a solid two way player that if traded to Boston would force Devers off third. Win-win in my book.

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        • Viveleempireevil

          4 months ago

          The only silly thing is in your trousers.

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  5. SpaceRangerAngel

    4 months ago

    I wonder if Arenado’s list is still tied to those teams that he named earlier in the off-season.

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    • RotiniRick

      4 months ago

      You have to figure it’s been expanded or there were teams not made public. Doesn’t make sense for the Cardinals to do all that work to line up a trade with Houston if they already knew he was anti-Astro.

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        4 months ago

        He wasn’t anti-Astros, he was anti- non-competitive team is his eyes. The Astros haven’t moved that needle since then.

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        • RotiniRick

          4 months ago

          Makes sense. Maybe he was okay with Houston until they traded Tucker. Point being I would think the Cardinals would know before approaching a team and putting a deal together if he’d approve them or not?

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          4 months ago

          It’s also the other way around which Arenado has stated this offseason – approach him with a tentative agreement first before I’d consider waiving my NTC. That’s part of the reason why the Cards haven’t been able to trade him yet.

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        • The Saber-toothed Superfife

          4 months ago

          It’s called the, “Scott Harris Syndrome”.

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      • deweybelongsinthehall

        4 months ago

        Astros will be competitive as usual so it was more likely the timing.

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      • SpaceRangerAngel

        4 months ago

        I get what you’re saying @BITA but honestly, it’s about money for them and instead of using it on Tucker they are spreading it around to fill in holes and add to that depleted farm system you mentioned. Though they aren’t as strong as other years, they must figure that the AL West is winnable at about 85 wins.

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      • Baseballisthebest

        4 months ago

        Houston is the favorite to win the AL West over the Rangers with the Mariners a close 3rd.

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  6. RotiniRick

    4 months ago

    Why even trade him especially if the return won’t be anything of value? He along with Contreras are their best two players. Outside of their pitching (three of which will be off the books after this year) only their 1b and 3b make over 3 million. Just keep the dude and hope for the best.

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  7. BrianCashmansBurner

    4 months ago

    Arenado to the Red Sox makes less sense than Bregman to the Red Sox unless there’s a Casas (or Yoshida – lol) trade in the works.

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    • avenger65

      4 months ago

      Brian: Maybe both. Yoshida would be a salary dump.

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    • Baseballisthebest

      4 months ago

      Both make sense. Moving Devers off 3B makes the Red Sox a better team regardless of who is playing 3B but moving him would be hard unless it’s for a future HOF like Arenado or a gold glover and All Star like Bregman.

      Yes, it means eating Yoshida’s contact or trading Casas. I prefer the former, but as long as it gets Devers off 3B and the return for Casas is good I would live with that too.

      Keep your eye on the ball. The must happen in this situation is getting Devers off 3B.

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  8. Supersc

    4 months ago

    Prediction: Arenado will have a bounce back season wherever he lands. Mark my word, this future HOFer is ready to perform above most people’s expectations.

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    • Baseballisthebest

      4 months ago

      Have you seen his spray chart? He would have had 10-12 more doubles in Fenway last season.

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  9. tigerdoc616

    4 months ago

    OR…Arenado’s market will pick up because teams are getting sick and tired of waiting on Bregman. That may well be what is happening with the talks picking up again with Boston. But Arenado also needs to be clear with STL regarding what teams he’ll waive his NTC. No sense in working out a deal only to have him say no at the end.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      4 months ago

      It makes no sense but Arenado is entitled to it so the Cards have the extra work to do. It was the Cards who approached him first about trading him as he seems perfectly comfortable staying in STL if he can’t go to a competitive team.

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  10. swanhenge

    4 months ago

    If one is to believe the reports of 4- and 5-year offers, Bregman is really coming off as kind of a diva. The whole concern over the AAV drop from $28M to $25M is laughable. Coming off a $100M contract and going into another $120-130M+…?!? Dude, seriously?

    He’s always had a very punchable face and the trash can saga took a toll on his rep throughout the league, but this whole ordeal is painting him as a real butthead.

    If he signs with Boston today… well, he’ll be our butthead.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      4 months ago

      Can you find a single Boras client who isn’t a diva? Gerrit Cole included.

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      • Paleobros

        4 months ago

        Josh Bell.

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    • cwsOverhaul

      4 months ago

      Bregman still annoyed Boras can’t get anyone close to whatever Toronto is offering. Just go there if top guaranteed money w/o betting on yourself any further is the goal…..guy got his titles.
      The better teams that will make or should make playoffs next several years clearly have grown tired of the dance and won’t be squeezed like he’s a 26-27yo 5 tool player in his prime.

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  11. avenger65

    4 months ago

    I don’t understand the problem with Chafin. I haven’t followed his whole career but he seems like a decent reliever everywhere he goes. And he’s a lefty.

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    • Baseballisthebest

      4 months ago

      He is “a little eccentric”?

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    • Motor City Beach Bum

      4 months ago

      Chafin rocks. Dude lives in his RV. He is the real life Kenny Powers!

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  12. Sabermetric Acolyte

    4 months ago

    If the Red Sox can dump Yoshida or move Cassas for something big then yes our defense on the infield would improve immeasurably which in my opinion needed more improvement than the rotation. So yeah, don’t really care how much Arenado’s bat has diminished if he can just stop the infield from looking like a little league team could out field us.

    But still, defense at second and short were a joke for us last year. Not sure how Campbell is as a fielder at second but if he’s even just league average it would also be a huge improvement.

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      4 months ago

      Saber, I agree on much of what you posted but Story solves on defensive position if he can stay on the field. I wish I could convince Henry to spend because I’d love to have Alonso at first with Arenado at third. Story then takes one middle infield spot with Campbell and Mayer fighting for the other. Casas and Yoshida then get traded and Devers becomes the DH.

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      • Baseballisthebest

        4 months ago

        I have faith that Casas can be a good 1B. I have no such faith in Devers at 3B or Yoshida anywhere.

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  13. Dock_Elvis

    4 months ago

    Chaim Bloom is transitioning to the role in STL. It seems too obvious that a deal with Boston makes sense. 1B incoming soon.

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  14. AHH-Rox

    4 months ago

    Jalen Beeks should be getting a big-league contract. He pitched pretty well for the Rockies last year except when they tried to use him as a closer. Would be a cromulent 7th-inning guy for a sub-500 team, or a situational lefty and low-leverage guy for a contender.

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  15. Poolhalljunkies

    4 months ago

    Arenado to boston seems to picking up steam based on tweets wednesday afternoon…wonder who sat devers down for the chat

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