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Nolan Arenado Reportedly Less Likely To Be Traded

By Steve Adams | January 9, 2025 at 4:49pm CDT

The Nolan Arenado saga has been perhaps the main storyline of the Cardinals’ offseason. As the club looks to scale back payroll and open up playing time for younger players (Nolan Gorman, in particular), Arenado has become one of the most prominent trade candidates in the sport. His full no-trade clause, downturn at the plate since 2023 and remaining three years and $74MM ($10MM of which is being covered by the Rockies) all combine to complicate the matter, however; Arenado has already reportedly invoked that no-trade clause to nix a deal to the Astros, who pivoted in mere days and signed first baseman Christian Walker to a three-year, $60MM deal instead (a contract nearly mirroring the $64MM they’d have owed to Arenado).

Agent Joel Wolfe said at last month’s Winter Meetings that Arenado was only open to trades to clubs where he felt he could win both in the short-term and for the remainder of his contract. It’s a bit odd that the Astros, who reached the playoffs in 2024 and reached the ALCS each season from 2017-23, didn’t fit that criteria, but there are surely multiple factors behind his decision.

Since that time, the Red Sox have been painted as the last and best hope for the Cardinals to orchestrate an Arenado trade. Even there, the situation is muddy. Acquiring Arenado would very likely mean moving Rafael Devers across the diamond to first base, where Triston Casas currently resides. Casas could see more time at DH, though the Sox are committed to Masataka Yoshida, who has three years and $54MM remaining, at that position. There’s the possibility of trading Casas, but Boston would surely need major league talent in return. It’s debatable whether they’d be better off with Arenado at third, Devers at first and whatever young talent they could get in return for Casas. Simultaneously, the Sox are considering a run at Alex Bregman (who’d also require shifting Devers to first and finding a trade for Casas or a taker for Yoshida). It’s all quite messy.

For those reasons and more, Katie Woo of The Athletic writes that he outlook on a possible Arenado deal is becoming increasingly bleak. Woo writes that efforts to move Arenado are at a “standstill” — in part because St. Louis isn’t interested in eating a notable chunk of the contract when part of their reason for wanting to move the third baseman is a desire to scale back spending. If no deal for Arenado materializes, per Woo, the Cards could look into other ways to trim payroll (and acquire young talent).

It’s quite arguable that the Cardinals should already be doing as much. The team isn’t making any efforts to improve the club for the upcoming season, after all, and the Cards are fresh off an 83-79 season. They’ve bid farewell to Kyle Gibson Lance Lynn, Paul Goldschmidt and Andrew Kittredge in free agency. Absent any effort to truly push closer to contention, it’s a stretch to think the Cardinals will make massive strides within the NL Central — let alone emerge as a bona fide threat in the postseason even if they limp to a playoff berth through a good showing within a weak division.

St. Louis has plenty of appealing players who’ll be free agents after the season and could be marketed to other clubs. Starter Erick Fedde ($7.5MM), closer Ryan Helsley ($8.2MM) and to a lesser extent veteran starter Steven Matz ($12MM) would all pique the interest of other clubs. That’s also true of setup man JoJo Romero, who’s controlled only through 2026. If the Cards aren’t taking a wholehearted aim at contending in 2025 anyhow, there’s good reason to explore trades of those players in the here and now, rather than risk a downturn in value following injuries or a poor first half of the season.

Moving Fedde or Matz would thin out the current rotation depth for a club that needs innings, though there’s of course the possibility to backfill via free agency. Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch wrote this week that the club still has some interest in Mizzou product Kyle Gibson, who enjoyed pitching close to home last year and played a key mentor role for many of the team’s young players. Trading Fedde for prospects, for instance, and signing Gibson to replenish those innings could bolster the long-term outlook. It might not significantly reduce payroll on its own — it may slightly increase it, in fact — but it’d benefit the long-term health of the organization. Such a trade could also be coupled with deals of Matz and/or Helsley as well. Goold notes that both Fedde and Matz have drawn interest throughout the winter, which is only logical given the soaring price of free-agent pitching.

While The Athletic and Post-Dispatch continue to caution that chances of a trade don’t look great right now — Ken Rosenthal suggested as much today on Fair Territory, as well — MLB.com and MLB Network frame things differently. John Denton wrote this week that the Red Sox could soon pull out of the Bregman bidding, which would greatly improve the chances of an Arenado trade with St. Louis. The third baseman has already formally told the club he’d green-light a deal to Boston, per Denton, and he’s talked with friend and former teammate Trevor Story about the possibility of reuniting at Fenway Park.

Further, MLB Network’s Jon Morosi suggested on air this morning that as options have begun to dwindle, Arenado has begun to take a more open-minded approach. Some clubs that showed interest last month but didn’t pursue trades because of Arenado’s narrow list of criteria could come back into play, per Morosi. He suggests the Mariners and Tigers as two such clubs, though it’s virtually impossible to see how the Mariners could be considered a viable suitor given their well-documented financial constraints this winter.

The Tigers are a more plausible fit on paper, but they’ve spent quite conservatively under president of baseball ops Scott Harris; perhaps they’d have interest, but it’s hard to see them paying full freight on that contract, particularly when they have some third base options in house already (including top prospect Jace Jung).

Jeff Jones of the Belleville News-Democrat tweeted this morning that the Royals were among the teams that reached out to the Cardinals last month but didn’t pursue a trade because of a belief that Arenado wouldn’t green-light the deal. The Royals are still seeking another bat, and incumbent Maikel Garcia is a glove-first player with a lighter bat than even the recently diminished version of Arenado. Kansas City also traded its top third base prospect, Cayden Wallace, to the Nationals in last summer’s Hunter Harvey swap.

However, Arenado’s contract would figure to be quite problematic for the Royals. Beyond the $64MM total he’s owed is the fact that said commitment is front-loaded; Arenado is owed $32MM this coming season ($5MM being covered by Colorado). The Royals’ payroll is already close to $10MM higher than it was a year ago, per RosterResource. Rosenthal noted in the aforementioned Fair Territory segment (17:50 mark) that he was surprised Kansas City even eked out another $7MM to re-sign Michael Lorenzen. Piling an additional $27MM onto the payroll and pushing their Opening Day would push payroll close to or slightly north of $150MM. That’d top the current franchise record of $143MM, set back in 2017. Arenado might represent a clearer upgrade to the Royals or Mariners than to some other speculative fits, but neither seems to have the financial wherewithal to bring him aboard — even if Arenado were willing to approve the deal.

If that feels like a lot of words effectively downplaying the possibility of a trade and maintaining the status quo — well, it is. The simple reality is that Arenado was never going to be an easy player to move, and his decision to quash a trade to Houston — and the Astros’ immediate pivot — probably eliminated the best chance of the Cardinals moving him at all. Absent a new approach from the Yankees — New York offered Marcus Stroman for Arenado earlier this winter, which didn’t interest St. Louis — there’s no long-term contender with a clear need at third base and ample payroll space to take on a 34-year-old player whose bat appears to be on the decline.

Chances of a trade shouldn’t be considered dead and buried, of course. Spring injuries could always create a need for a big-payroll contender whose options at that juncture are limited. Such circumstances could prove a meaningful catalyst. Trades elsewhere on the market could alter another team’s considerations at the hot corner and spark some interest in Arenado. For now, however, it seems increasingly likely that Arenado may not have the market to facilitate a trade. If the Cardinals begrudgingly come to feel the same, it could create some fascinating ripple effects with regard to the rest of their roster.

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  1. YankeesEmpire29

    6 months ago

    Haha lol

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    • 17dizzy

      6 months ago

      I agree!!!
      Arenado’s making Mozeliak eat that money for trying to dump him!!

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      • thebirds

        6 months ago

        Man people are quick to end Arenados career on her. He had one down year.. not even a bad year. His WAR was 2.5 last year. lol.. is it because he didn’t make the all start game? I hope he has a monster year and finishes too 5 in MVP. Cant wait to see the haters in here begging their GM to trade for him mid season.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          the – It’s two consecutive years of steep declines on both offense and defense. Follow the trends, dude.

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        • 17dizzy

          6 months ago

          Fever pitch guy ——- I’m not a gambling man, but I’ll bet there are going to be a lot of teams who wish they’d traded for the Comeback Player of the Year for 2025!!

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          dizzy – I hope you’re right, because I like Arenado as a person. I’ve met him a few times in Jupiter.

          But I just think it’s too big a gamble to trade for him and take on that salary. I also don’t think Devers is moving this year, and Arenado playing anywhere but 3B doesn’t make sense to me at all.

          But if they were to include Liberatore in a trade, I would definitely consider it!!!

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        • thebirds

          6 months ago

          Yeah it’s “steep” when you base it off his best year of his career 2 year prior lol.. understand the numbers, dudette.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          birds – Dude nobody is basing off his best year. Arenado had a CAREER .871 OPS and 122 OPS+ prior to last year ….. then he put up a .719 OPS and 101 OPS+ stinker last year.

          It’s cool you like him and want to support him, but you might want to stick to reality.

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        • JoeBrady

          6 months ago

          He had one down year.. not even a bad year.
          =================
          If the 2.5 counts as a down year, wouldn’t the 2.4 he had in 2023 also count as a down year?

          And no, not a terrible season, but not one you pay $32M for.

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  2. MLB Top 100 Commenter

    6 months ago

    The only ones who look better after this nonsense are the Rockies, and that’s not easy to do.

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    • thebirds

      6 months ago

      How? They are still paying a 50 million of his current deal.. lol

      Oh oh.. I forgot Gomber won the Cy Young.

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    • BITA

      6 months ago

      The Cardinals got some good seasons out of Arenado. If his trade value is negative it isn’t that negative. Not sure why the Rockies look good in all this.

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    • atmospherechanger

      6 months ago

      Per Spotrac

      Rockies
      41.1 WAR
      $124,965,500 (includes 50M being paid after trade.) Includes 2020 shortened season.
      $3,040,523.11/WAR

      Cardinals

      16.6 WAR
      $67,000,000 (Includes $6M deferred)
      $4,036,144.58/WAR

      Not including bonuses for award incentives.

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      • BITA

        6 months ago

        Yes the Rockies drafted him and the first 6 years of a players career they are always underpaid. That’s how it works.

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  3. NYCityRiddler

    6 months ago

    Good, I’m tired of hearing about it, let him rot in St. Louis. Ahahahaha!

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    • WillieMaysHayes24

      6 months ago

      And most of us are tired of your ignorant comments. Btw, your schtick is lame as hell and not at all humorous.

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  4. James Midway

    6 months ago

    None of the SoCal teams wanted to take the contract.

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    • BITA

      6 months ago

      Not quite

      Dodgers, Padres, Giants and Angels don’t need a 3b. None of them do.

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      • vtadave

        6 months ago

        Angels certainly do.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          They gonna pay over 60 million for 3b in 2025? I doubt it. And of course Arenado wants to play for a winner and thats not the Angels at all.

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      • KnicksFanCavsFan

        6 months ago

        @Bita

        Thus, no Socal team wanted to take the contract.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          It’s not about the contract it’s because they already have the position filled.

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        • rct

          6 months ago

          “It’s not about the contract it’s because they already have the position filled.”

          The Angels? You think they’re counting on Rendon? They simply don’t want Arenado’s contract.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          What team in the history of baseball has spent over 60 million on 3b?

          Name one.

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        • Michael Carder

          6 months ago

          Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe he was suggesting the Angels would pay “over $60 Million for 3b in 2025” becasue of the money already owed to Rendon + Arenado’s money – which is well over $60 million. Meaning The Angels would take on Arenado and still be stuck paying Rendon. The total is roughly $70 million. But yeah, no one has paid a 3rd baseman “over $60 million” ever..

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        • Ol’ Uncle Charlie

          6 months ago

          Cards – Rolen
          Padres – Tatis Jr.
          Padres – Mchado
          Mets – Lindor
          A’s – Chavez

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        • Jean Matrac

          6 months ago

          It’s 3 from column A and 1 from column B. The Padres, Dodgers and Giants don’t need a 3B. It’s not because of the contract, If the need was there they might be willing to take it on. But clearly the contract that the Angels don’t want because of how much money that would be for one position, 3B.

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        • HalosHeavenJJ

          6 months ago

          As absurd as it sounds, the math actually works better for the Angels.

          Rendon $38 million for 0-0.5 WAR = $76 million per WAR at best

          Rendon + Nolan for 2.5 WAR (all Nolan) at $70 million = $28 million per WAR.

          It will never happen but that’s just how horrendous Rendon’s contract is.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – That is not correct and you know it.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Two players can’t play third base at the same time, you should know that by now. We are not talking elementary school T-ball here, fella.

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  5. eznod

    6 months ago

    Leave it to Moe to muck this up… again!!

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    • davengmusic

      6 months ago

      Sure you meant No(lan)

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    • NYCityRiddler

      6 months ago

      THAT hurts! Good luck in the Enchanted Kingdom, willie. Ahahahaha!

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  6. sean-11

    6 months ago

    Absolute joke of a franchise

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    • Cardsfan21

      6 months ago

      Yeah two bad years vs eleven rings. What a joke this franchise is.

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      • sean-11

        6 months ago

        Besides the pathetic state of ownership in the NL central what exactly is going well for this franchise since yadi and Albert? Ownership is passive and risk averse. Player development stalled 6 years ago. Like what’s going well my guy?

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        • swole_nash

          6 months ago

          Part of the reason we are not doing good is when yadi retired. Now their is just no leadership

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        • Cardsfan21

          6 months ago

          And that makes the entire franchise a joke? Or do we maybe need to rebuild like so many others have done?

          Calm down, silly.

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        • thebirds

          6 months ago

          Well for starters.. fan like you are crying about it. I think that’s a good start? Shows they care?

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      • royalsfan4

        6 months ago

        Anything before #42 doesn’t count. You have 5.

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        • Cardsfan21

          6 months ago

          Tell yourself whatever you need to.

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  7. BITA

    6 months ago

    This article is no good Steve

    To say that a 500 team is wrong for not rebuilding is incredibly ignorant. If that’s the bar for rebuilding or not then what about half the league? Even the stronger contenders like the Braves and the Padres have done nothing this offseason but no hit pieces on those franchises.

    It’s as if you want the Cardinals to sell so bad that you keep writing this stuff trying to make it so.

    This is lame.

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    • Sid Bream Speed Demon

      6 months ago

      He made the point that they were near .500 and already had numerous lost players. The Braves and Padres have two of the best cores in baseball, the Braves specifically, and have made the playoffs for 7 straight years. I don’t think you have the point you thought you had.

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      • BITA

        6 months ago

        Who have they lost? Goldschmidt and his 1 WAR? Gibson and Lynn a couple back end old guy starters? They haven’t lost anything meaningful at all.

        If the Braves are trying to win why aren’t they signing players? Where are they at?

        The Padres window is closing quickly. Is doing nothing all offseason really the way to go? Of course not.

        But no constant articles about these teams and questioning their strategy.

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        • Kyle Pepperpants

          6 months ago

          Yep. Their “losses” likely improve the team. I don’t think it’s a stretch for them to make the playoffs in a division of crappy teams. There’s a lot of potential with these young guys, but the cards haven’t been able to develop them (beyond Winn). If they could get Gorman and Walker back on track, and McGreevy pitches well, they could be a good team. Pallante and Gray are a solid 1 and 2.

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        • rct

          6 months ago

          “Gibson and Lynn a couple back end old guy starters?”

          They started 53 games for the Cardinals last year at a combined ERA+ over 100. Plus Mikolas continues to age poorly. They’re replacing those guys with. . .?

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          They are replacing them with a full season of Fedde, a hopefully healthy Matz, a big league ready McGreevy and a soon to be ready Matthews.

          Mikolas was unlucky last year. FIP is a better stat than whatever you are looking at.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Padres window closing quickly? They’ve got Machado, Xander and Tatis in their prime. It’s 2025 not 2030, fella.

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      • Fever Pitch Guy

        6 months ago

        Sid – Agreed!! Steve is an excellent writer and this is an excellent article. A certain commenter here is just a hater who hates everyone, him complaining about content he is reading for free is beyond lame.

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    • baseballpun

      6 months ago

      I really hate all this knee-jerk rebuild crap that permeates all of sports. As it it’s somehow a great thing to have a bottom-5 team for half a decade. This boom or bust crap is tiresome and a terrible way to run league.

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      • BITA

        6 months ago

        Even if this rebuild stuff made sense the Cardinals aren’t the team for it. There’s 10 other teams in the league that need to rebuild if anyone does.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – The Cards are EXACTLY the team for it, especially with a new guy (Bloom) taking over. That is the time when you take a step back. If they make dumb decisions like holding onto Helsley past the trade deadline, they will regret it. You of all people should know about regrets.

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        • Kyle Pepperpants

          6 months ago

          Cards don’t need a rebuild at all. They have a lot of young talent coming up through the minors and some good young players on the team. They need exactly what they’re doing…better development. They’re not in a rebuild nor should they be. They’ve just been so good for so long that it feels like a rebuild to some folks who aren’t paying close attention.

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      • HalosHeavenJJ

        6 months ago

        Agreed. And what do we die hard fans get?

        Well, they don’t drop ticket prices when they drop payroll to rebuild but they sure hike them up the second it is time to compete again.

        Give me a league where most teams can head to camp with some October dreams. Some more real than others, but a little hope pretty much everywhere.

        That would require a floor and a cap, though.

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    • JoeBrady

      6 months ago

      BITA
      To say that a 500 team is wrong for not rebuilding is incredibly ignorant.
      ===========================
      The fact that their Py W/L was 76-86 should be taken into consideration. I’m not really seeing anything better than .500.

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      • BITA

        6 months ago

        Pythagorean win loss is nonsense.

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  8. cwsOverhaul

    6 months ago

    Sure. After Hou denial, the teams he is okay with are going to lowball big time how much of the contract they’ll take on (and no prospects).

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    • BITA

      6 months ago

      The part that people seem to be confused about is it isn’t the team that wants to trade him it’s Arenado that wants to be traded.

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      • Kyle Pepperpants

        6 months ago

        This is not entirely true. The team is looking to free up some money and deal with the clutter at 3B (arenado, Gorman, Walker).

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          The team has freed up money by letting their free agents go. When the comments came out about the team lowering payroll it was done at the same time free agency started as a way for Mozeliak to explain to fans why they weren’t going to pursue those guys. And that’s all it was. This site tries to turn it into more than that.

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        • Michael Carder

          6 months ago

          I disagree. Mozeliak made it clear the team was in a soft rebuild. Perhaps I’m not quoting him exactly word for word but a step back was expected. MLB Trade Rumors writes articles about player movement and teams roster strategies. And in most cases they debate those transactions. As the Cardinals were expected to make these payroll reduction transactions, MLB Trade Rumors has and should have discussed them

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        • baseballpun

          6 months ago

          They don’t have clutter at 3B. Gorman sucks and Walker can’t play 3rd.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          You are wrong Michael. Mozeliak did say point blank payroll was going down. But at that same press conference DeWiit REPEATEDLY said the team is good and can compete. Thats the plan it’s always been the plan. But the people running this site, who happen to be Cubs fans, ignored DeWitts comments and ran with what Mozeliak said about lowering payroll. And that’s all they want to talk about here on this site.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          Gorman is who knows what. I wouldn’t say he sucks but you don’t write his name in the lineup in ink. Walker definitely can’t play 3b. Donovan might be able to. And Saggese perhaps can play there too. But I imagine if they trade Arenado another 3b will be brought in.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Stop talking poorly about this site. MLBTR is the best baseball site on the WWW, if you hate it so much then why are you here? And yes I know your background, you don’t need to repeat it.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Making that accusation against MLBTR is uncalled for. Settle down, fella.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – As someone who knows the Cards a lot better than you, I can say with certainty you are totally overlooking Liberatore. He will have a breakout season this year, fella.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          You are a loser dude. Go away. Stop trolling and whenever you do i will mute you again. Loser.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Stop with the namecalling. Conduct yourself like an adult, no matter what your age. Talk about baseball, stop talking about others here.

          Here I will help you by starting, who is your favorite player fella?

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          Dude you showed up replying to my posts a day after I told you I muted you

          What the f is that about?

          That’s troll behavior loser. Stop being a loser.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Stop the namecalling, conduct yourself like an adult. I told you days ago I had no desire to converse with you here because you made a lot of ridiculous false comments about the Red Sox and false accusations against me. I took the time to prove you wrong and explain to you everything that you had wrong.

          Stop stalking me. I am now going to the Red Sox articles, do not follow me and reply to me there.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          When the heck have I ever followed you around?

          I muted you yesterday. Doing it again now. So stop talking about me and replying to others in a conversation I am involved in.

          Go away

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Stop lying, if you muted me I wouldn’t be able to respond to your posts. You know that, stop pretending. I came here because everyone thinks Arenado is going to my team, I did not come here because of you. That’s quite the ego to think I want to read your posts, they have no substance or accuracy.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          Yeah man he just wants attention. I got him muted again.

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  9. Codeeg

    6 months ago

    Arenado is gonna have to play like he’s actually a star again if he wants to be traded to a team like LA,

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    • Redb1

      6 months ago

      This is the best outcome if a reasonable trade can’t happen. If he values himself worthy of teams seeking to trade for him let him play like he is worth every penny. Can he though at this point?

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  10. BITA

    6 months ago

    As it stands right now imo there are 4 teams that could potentially be in on Arenado. Not that that they are or will be but they could be.

    Yankees

    I think they will go with someone cheaper. They got Bellinger he makes a lot I don’t think they want to pay

    Red Sox

    Assuming Devers is OK with it, and he liked a post about it on Instagram recently so it appears he is, this makes a lot of sense. But they have to trade Yoshida or Casas

    Mets

    I think the Mets will either sign Alonso or sign Bregman or trade for Arenado. But I think Alonso is the most likely and then Bregman

    Dodgers

    I don’t care if they really need a 3b. That’s where Arenado wants to go. The Cardinals traded Edman to the Dodgers at last years deadline. I still think that could happen

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    • Jean Matrac

      6 months ago

      I don’t see the Dodgers at all. The Cards trading Edman to LA is irrelevant. Also irrelevant is Arenado wanting to go there. It’s if LA wants him, and I’d guess no.

      3B isn’t an area of need. Last season they were 6th in WAR by position at 3B. Their assets are best used elsewhere.

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      • BITA

        6 months ago

        He’s a future hall of famer. He wants to play for the Dodgers. Yeah that’s relevant. I know it’s not the best fit but Muncy missed a lot of time last year.

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        • Jean Matrac

          6 months ago

          Yes, he is a future HoFer. But he hasn’t hit like one for the last 2 seasons. I don’t care how much he wants to go there, it is irrelevant, because the only factor that is relevant is if LA wants him.

          Muncy did miss time last season, but over his career he’s been fairly durable. Not as durable as Arenado, but Muncy has been a better hitter, and 3B is still a low priority area for the Dodgers.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – The Dodgers want to win championships, having Arenado prevents them from doing so. It’s going to be a tough year for the Cards, they need Arenado to sell tickets. I am skeptical about him going anywhere. At the very least they should try to let him rebuild his value, then they can get something for him at the trade deadline.

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  11. TrillionaireTeamOperator

    6 months ago

    Arenado was never trade-able and I don’t think he wants to adjust to a new team anyway with so few years left on his deal.

    They might as well release him and let him retire or get picked up by the team of his choice (and who will bother to pick him up) or ride it out and hope against hope he has a late career resurgence by the all-star break for a haul.

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    • mostlytoasty

      6 months ago

      well the Astros and Cards agreed to a deal but Arenado vetoed it. supposedly he was still open to it but “just not now.” I think the Red Sox likely also had a deal lined up but I’m willing to bet it involved Yoshida and the Cards have no use for Yoshida

      he’s definitely tradeable, especially if they eat most or all of the money. the biggest hangups though are Arenado himself and the fact the 3B-needy market is not very big right now

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    • Michael Carder

      6 months ago

      He is absolutly tradeable. If you have any doubts about that, call Dana Brown, who was ready to install him as the Astros everyday 3rd baseman

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    • Nuggethoarder

      6 months ago

      Arenado is still an above average player with upside. Releasing him makes the Cardinals worse with little to no benefit. They could trade him tomorrow if they were willing to eat all of his salary (same thing you are suggesting) and he approved it.

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      • Michael Carder

        6 months ago

        Exactly!!

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        6 months ago

        @Trill wants every player over 35 to retire. Judging value remains his challenge. Why would the Cards release him? Lol.

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  12. letitbelowenstein

    6 months ago

    Nobody loves you when you’re down and out.

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    • Michael Carder

      6 months ago

      I still love Arenado. I know he’s had 2 down years but I still think highly of him..

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  13. Skell 2

    6 months ago

    Arenado would have had a blast playing in Houston. That’s not even mentioning they have no State income tax! now the fool is stuck on a rebuilding dumpster fire. the guy thinks more of himself than anyone thinks of him

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    • BITA

      6 months ago

      Rebuilding dumpster fire?

      Yeah you’re an idiot…….

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      • Michael Carder

        6 months ago

        He’s not an idiot. The situation in St. Louis looks like a dumster fire to most of us. If you are a die-hard Cardinals fan..I could see why you would resist this notion, but that doesn’t make him an idiot. It’s a matter of perception. Choose your words wisely sir. And I absolutley agree that he’d be happy in Houston. That clubhouse is one of the top in the AL. The Astros were correct in moving on..

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          83 win team is not a dumpster fire dipwad. You are just some internet weirdo.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – You are reported for namecalling. Stop calling people idiots and dipwads. Show some respect. Show some class.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          I muted you yesterday and here you are today trolling me like an IDIOT.

          Get lost loser

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Stop with the namecalling. Conduct yourself like an adult, no matter what your age. You cannot mute me, if you did you wouldn’t be responding to me. Please think before continuing to make false claims. I can help you if you want to pay for private tutoring. Haha …. just kidding of course, but I really do want to help you.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Stop the namecalling, conduct yourself like an adult. I muted your old accounts, I muted this one. Why do you keep responding to my posts? If you can’t talk baseball, please ignore me. I am here to talk baseball and have fun with others.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          If you muted me you wouldn’t have seen my comments you loser troll.

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        • Michael Carder

          6 months ago

          Dipwad? That’s a new one

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Michael – Yeah it’s ridiculous how often he namecalls everyone, reminds me of the TS cheerleader in Not Another Teen Movie.

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  14. Poolhalljunkies

    6 months ago

    Just cross boston off the list people keep wanting to force this but breslow and cora were pretty clear devers is the 3b ..and its obvious to everyone that as long as yoshida remains on that team it wont change..and stop trying to give away casas no team will meet the red sox price in mlb talent so its not worth discussing

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    • Michael Carder

      6 months ago

      100% agree. Every time Boston is mentioned in the convo I wanna scream!!

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  15. johncoltrane

    6 months ago

    Still cant wrap my head around him rejecting houston

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    • BITA

      6 months ago

      Houston just traded away their best player right before the report came out. And you can’t wrap your head around why that would be a problem?

      The Astros are fading their run is basically over.

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      • johncoltrane

        6 months ago

        Ye bc cards have such a great tm
        And can rly compete vs dodgers phils mets brewers lol
        Houston has been to playoffs every yr since 2016 or 17 they just know how to win. Springer & correa left, others got the job done. They lost gerrit cole , next man up. Arenado will regret it

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          He doesn’t want to go to a team that realistically is about as good on paper as the Cardinals are right now.

          Nobody can compete with the Dodgers

          The Astros are fading. The next 3 years are what Arenado is concerned with and those won’t be good years for the Astros.

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        • Michael Carder

          6 months ago

          Ok. As far as your thoughts on the Dodgers – can’t argue. As for the Astros fading? I can argue all day. We can come back to this after the season, though. I’m willing to bet you are wrong.

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        • Nuggethoarder

          6 months ago

          If he really wants out, he miscalculated in assuming another team in a better position to win would come knocking.

          I don’t think Arenado or the Cardinals are all that committed to a trade, which is why it hasn’t happened. It will only happen if the value coming back to the Cardinals and Arenado’s criteria for a new team line up. Given the contract, Arenado’s recent performance, and his strict list – you can see why predictions are he will not be moved.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – You’ve been saying for 5 years that the Astros are fading. They still have lots of superstars, including Altuve and Hader and Valdez. I know you don’t follow the AL, but do some research and you will see they are still the favorites to win the division. They are in the American League West division by the way.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          How the f do you know what I have been saying for 5 years? I have been posting here for maybe 2. And I only said this after they traded Tucker not a day sooner.

          You are a troll dude

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Stop with the namecalling. Conduct yourself like an adult. I know what your prior handles were, you told us.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          Only been posting here for 2 years you idiot. Now stop trolling.

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        • johncoltrane

          6 months ago

          @fever
          its hard for some folks to conduct themselves in a mature way. especially on the internet

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          John

          Are you saying that because I disagreed with your comment you made? Sure seems like it

          Yesterday I muted this troll and today he replies to numerous comments within comments i posted and is acting like a troll. That’s the kind of guy this Fever is.

          You are both losers. Playing victim because you are mad we disagree about baseball. That’s loser stuff fella.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Stop with the namecalling. Conduct yourself like an adult, no matter what your age.

          Did I say just here? Are you saying this is the first place you’ve posted about baseball?

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          Are you a troll from another website I used to post on?

          Is that whst you are saying?

          Loser

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          john – I agree. It’s frustrating because this is a great place with lots of great people, one person shouldn’t be allowed to namecall and insult others all over the place.

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          Why are you following me around and hanging on my every word when YESTERDAY I TOLD YOU I MUTED YOU!!!

          WHY????

          YOU ARE A LOSER TROLL.

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Stop with the namecalling. Conduct yourself like an adult, no matter your age. Stop disrupting this wonderful baseball site.

          Talk about baseball, not others. Who is your favorite player?

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Stop the namecalling, conduct yourself like an adult no matter what your age.

          Stop hating on everyone. This is a friendly site, we want to keep it that way. Talk baseball. Who is your favorite baseball player, do you know?

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Stop the namecalling, conduct yourself like an adult. I am not following you around, that is a blatant lie. I posted dozens of messages today in the Crochet comments, thankfully I didn’t see any from you because I have you muted. Good conversations went on there.

          Talk baseball. What is your favorite base?

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        • BITA

          6 months ago

          You don’t have me muted moron if you did you wouldn’t have seen my comments here

          You are a world class troll

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        • Fever Pitch Guy

          6 months ago

          Bit – Stop the namecalling, conduct yourself like an adult.

          So I got you to admit that it’s not possible to respond to someone you’ve muted. That was as easy as I thought it would be, so stop lying about muting me. Hahahahaha!!

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        • JoeBrady

          6 months ago

          BITA
          He doesn’t want to go to a team that realistically is about as good on paper as the Cardinals are right now.
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          I don’t think the Cards are close to the Astros right now. The Astros were 5 games better last year, and 14 better in Py W/L. They lost two excellent players, but added two good players.

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      • User 4014041831

        6 months ago

        I think Arenado reconsiders and is traded within a week.

        I think HOU has another 3 years of serious WS contention, after that not sure. They need some OF help and 1 more SP.

        Big decision about Framber.Do they offer him a QO or maybe trade him at mid year. Do they make a big offer to bring back Tucker. I bet they do. He might choose another offer. I would be surprised if he accepted an extension with CUBs. He wants to test the FA market

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      • JoeBrady

        6 months ago

        Houston just traded away their best player right before the report came out.
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        But they are still a better team than StL.

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    • PrincessYuki

      6 months ago

      He may just dislike Houston, and I wouldn’t blame him. Houston is one team I’m getting tired of hearing about. They should go into lose on purpose mode.

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    • Jean Matrac

      6 months ago

      johncoltrane, This is pure conjecture, but I wonder if there wasn’t more to the reason for rejecting the trade. Some guys will reject a trade to try and negotiate a little more money, or an extra year added on. It’s possible he tried that and it just blew the whole thing up.

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  16. JoeyG

    6 months ago

    The Red Sox ownership really needs to sell and move on.

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  17. Payne Train

    6 months ago

    The guys still a stud. Don’t trade him, great. I’ll enjoy watching him play 3rd for the Cards.. The guy is a gamer, he’ll be working his butt off this offseason as he tries to be better than the version that we all think he should be.

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    • BITA

      6 months ago

      Yeah people think the Cardinals or the fans want him gone and thats not true. He’s a good player. Maybe check back at the deadline if the team ends up selling but for now he gives the team the best chance to win games.

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  18. Samuel

    6 months ago

    He’s going to be traded to Team A…..maybe Team B…..Team C is interested…he grew up in the area Team D represents…..He’s willing to play 1B for Team E, B and C…..Team F can play him at 3B and the 3B will move to 1B/DH……..Today…..

    He’s “Less Likely” to be traded.

    Other than his family and friends……Who Cares?

    Hardly the only player on here with this nonsense.

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  19. Bill Rogers

    6 months ago

    Seems to me that the Astros’ trade of Kyle Tucker gave Arenado pause as to their seriously pushing for a pennant. The timing of events sure indicates that. Arenado gave up something to get that no-trade clause. I don’t blame him for using it when he sees fit.

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    • mostlytoasty

      6 months ago

      yes people forget the timing. if Arenado’s main wish is to join a club to win a ring, why would you go to a team that just traded away their best player? lol

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    • Michael Carder

      6 months ago

      I think that point is overplayed. The Astros didn’t trade Tucker with the intentions of “scalling back.” They traded him because of the $500 mil + he is going to ask for that they are not willing to pay.

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      • BITA

        6 months ago

        Why not just keep Tucker because he’s really good and your team is trying to win now?

        It made no sense at all to trade Tucker.

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        • Michael Carder

          6 months ago

          It made perfect sense. Because the team is in win now mode.

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        • stan lee the manly

          6 months ago

          This is the opposite move that a team in win now mode would make. You can’t possibly believe that teams trading away their biggest star are trying to win in the present.

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        • realist101

          6 months ago

          @BITA –

          Because the Astros don’t think they’ll sign Tucker at his free agent asking price and are trying to extend their window of contention.

          They got back an above average starting position player with more years of control than Tucker (Paredes), a highly-regarded prospect who projects to be MLB-ready by late 2025 or 2026 (Smith), and a throw-in swingman pitcher who is in the majors (Wesneski).

          If Arenado is thinking about the full 3 years left on his contract, the Astros keeping Tucker, unless he and the team agreed on an extension, should have left him with worries that the team was positioned to fall off dramatically after 2025.

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        • JoeBrady

          6 months ago

          Why not just keep Tucker because he’s really good and your team is trying to win now?
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          Because the trade increases their chances in future years.

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    • JoeBrady

      6 months ago

      Seems to me that the Astros’ trade of Kyle Tucker gave Arenado pause
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      It likely made no difference. Once they traded for Paredes, they weren’t trading for another 3B. It was the Astros moving on from Arenado that was the final nail.

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  20. In nurse follars

    6 months ago

    So predictable. Teams take on ridiculous contracts, inevitably have buyers remorse and become frantic to cut their losses. You’d think they’d learn by now that expensive shiny new toys ultimately tarnish, break, and fail. But the credit card debt remains. No sympathy at all. You made your dugout. Sit in it.

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    • BITA

      6 months ago

      Yeah that’s not what’s going on here at all.

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  21. solaris602

    6 months ago

    Best case scenario Arenado returns to form in the first half making him a deadline possibility for some contenders, but if he continues his decline STL can expect to be stuck with him for the duration.

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    • BITA

      6 months ago

      His contract goes down over the next few years. In other words it factors in a bit of a decline.

      It’s not that they are stuck with him. Arenado is gonna be stuck he’s the one who wants out.

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  22. swanhenge

    6 months ago

    Yeesh, little uncomfortable around the cages at spring training

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  23. Brodee

    6 months ago

    Seattle still makes a ton of sense. If St. Louis is willing to take Haniger and his expiring deal along with a nice prospect, that would free up enough cash for the M’s to cover the first year of Arrenado’s front-loaded salary and perhaps even leave enough left over to resign Justin Turner to split 1B/DH duties. Assuming Arrenado would allow it, would there be a better fit anywhere?

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    • larkraxm

      6 months ago

      He won’t go to Seattle, so the fit doesn’t really matter. If Seattle was willing to spend that kind of money at this point in the off season, and then spent that money on Arenado, there would be protests and looting in the streets of Seattle. Any team willing to spend Arenado money at 3B should be talking to Bregman…that includes Seattle.

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      • BITA

        6 months ago

        Yeah he won’t accept a trade there. The Mariners have made the playoffs once in the last 2 decades. He won’t go there.

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  24. 30 Parks

    6 months ago

    Yoshida needs to go. Figure out the money, but he needs to go. Keep Casas. Acquire Arenado.

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    • stan lee the manly

      6 months ago

      The Cardinals have no use for Yoshida, they already have a logjam of guys better suited as DHs. Would probably have to be prospects if Casas wasn’t involved.

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  25. drstevebrule1000

    6 months ago

    I’m surprised a Cards-Mets deal couldn’t happen. Mets are on Arrenado’s ok to trade to list. One possiblity could be Mets getting Arrenado and Cards get Baty, Marte (as somewhat of a contract offset/reduction), and some other prospect(s).

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    • BITA

      6 months ago

      I think he’s a decent fit for the Mets if they don’t get Bregman or Alonso. Cardinals could perhaps use Mauricio. Baty i don’t thonk so they don’t need more lefty bats.

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    • User 4014041831

      6 months ago

      In a perfect world I don’t think NYM want to move Vientos to 1B. Alonso complicates the situation. I think they don’t want to sign him but they are trying to avoid PR hit from some fans.

      I’d think it might work to have Vientos and Arenado share 1B and 3B.
      Nolan could DH maybe 40% of the time.
      I am not ready to give up on Baty and I want Mauricio to get time at 3B,2B and some OF
      I’d give StL 2 or 3 lesser prospects plus Marte for 5M less (They probably wouldn’t be interested).
      Probably easier to keep Marte as pt OF and DH. He could be traded mid year or in ST to another team.

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      • BITA

        6 months ago

        Arenados value is in his ability to play 3b. You don’t trade for himand then have him DH.

        I don’t know anything about Vientos’ defense at 3b.

        Seems like the Mets don’t need Mauricio with Williams and Acuna coming soon.

        I like Tyrone Taylor. He’s a fit for the Cardinals. No need for Marte at all.

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      • drstevebrule1000

        6 months ago

        Mets could have Arenado, Alonso, and Vientos. Vientos being primarily DH but rotating with Arenado and Alonso at 3rd and 1st to give Alonso and Arenado some rest

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      • stan lee the manly

        6 months ago

        I’m sorry, you think the Mets should trade for Arenado and then DH him? How in any world does that make sense to you?

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  26. Misty Moobs

    6 months ago

    Can the Sox just trade for him so we don’t need to worry about signing Bregman and ruining the team’s future

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  27. wifflemeister

    6 months ago

    What kind of an idiot tells people beforehand that he is going to sell something (Arenado) before he even starts negotiating?

    How did this guy get his job?
    Dope

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    • TJW

      6 months ago

      Bingo! Mo is an absolute dope.

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    • GarryHarris

      6 months ago

      Nolan Arenado actually had been making overtures public before the Cards did.

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  28. mitchladd

    6 months ago

    I cannot believe we’re going to be stuck with him. This was the last chance to move him. We should’ve traded him and goldy at the 23 deadline.

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  29. CardsFan57

    6 months ago

    It’s pretty obvious that Arenado is not going to be traded unless he has a good first half. At that point he can be traded at the deadline. Otherwise he remains a Cardinal. Worse things have happened to many teams.

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  30. baseballguru

    6 months ago

    SIGN BREGMAN BOSTON! SPEND THE MONEY! WE WANY BREGMAN AND SCOTT, NO NEED FOR ARENADO UNLESS YOSHIDA 1 FOR 1.

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    • JoeBrady

      6 months ago

      baseballguru
      SIGN BREGMAN BOSTON! SPEND THE MONEY! WE WANY BREGMAN AND SCOTT,
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      NO WE DON’T. WE WANY TO TRADE CASAS, OR ABREU, PLUS NON-PREMIUM PROSPECTS, FOR JONES OR BUBBA CHANDLER.

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  31. Lanidrac

    6 months ago

    To be fair, Gorman doesn’t deserve to be handed back a starting job right away, while Saggese could use more time in AAA. If Arenado stays, it makes a certain amount of sense to at least start the season with Arenado at 3B, while Gorman fights for playing time with Donovan at 2B, and Donovan himself moves around to also get playing time in the OF and covering for the rare days off (or days at DH) given to Winn and Arenado.

    From there, maybe Gorman wins the starting 2B job again while Donovan plays more OF to cover for injuries or another slow start from Walker, maybe Saggese comes up and earns playing time over Gorman, maybe another infielder gets hurt, we’ll see what happens.

    However, the bottom line is that if the Cardinals can’t move Arenado, they’re clearly a better team with him than without him. That’s true even if it results in them trading Matz instead, which I think they should be trying to do even if they do also trade Arenado.

    In the event they keep Arenado for all of 2025, then they might as well keep him for the final two years of his deal when his salaries will be more reasonable and the Cardinals themselves will be more serious about competing.

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    • TJW

      6 months ago

      There’s no way Saggese is going to spend any more time in AAA. Whether he is platooned or not, he will spend the entire year at MLB level. I think he could make a run for MLB ROY.

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      • Lanidrac

        6 months ago

        Maybe he will, but he could still use that extra time in AAA as a means of freeing up playing time and a roster spot for a while if Arenado stays. Saggese was terrible in his cup of coffee last year, and he’s not a huge prospect to where that would be completely excusable like it was for Winn.

        His chances for Rookie of the Year are very slight at best. Even if he does stay at the MLB level all year, he may only be a platoon or bench player, especially if Arenado is blocking him at 3B. Even if he does become a starter for most of the year, I can’t see him outperforming all of the actual top prospects who will be rookies this year.

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  32. TJW

    6 months ago

    I’ll be glad when this season gets underway. With or without Arenado, the Cardinals are going to be a lot more competitive than most people seem to believe. In particular, I think a young starting pitching staff is going to be the best in the NL Central.

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    • jeremyr

      6 months ago

      Our projected starting staff is Gray (35), Mikolas (36), Matz (34),, Fedde (32) and Pallante (26)

      Not exactly young

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      • Lanidrac

        6 months ago

        Mikolas is NOT projected to be in the starting five anymore. He’ll probably be either long relief or DFAed.

        McGreevey is the one who should be taking that rotation spot. If Matz is traded or gets hurt yet again, that opens up another spot, as well.

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  33. soxfan1

    6 months ago

    Yoshida and Vaughn Grissom?

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  34. jeremyr

    6 months ago

    It would not surprise me if they re-sign Gibson, but they need to let their young starting pitchers pitch. McGreevy, Thompson, Graceffo. They might not be good, but they should at least be given a shot.

    The Cardinals will need at least 3 starters for 2026 and if they don’t see if their young guys can do it, the only other option is to sign Gibson/Lynn types

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    • Lanidrac

      6 months ago

      Yeah, that’s basically the plan. I don’t see them resigning Gibson or anyone else for the rotation. Assuming Mikolas has little shot at starting again, they have a spot open for McGreevey or someone else, two spots if Matz is traded or gets hurt again (or to cover for any other injuries).

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  35. baseballguru

    6 months ago

    BREGMAN AND SCOTT!! SPEND THE MONEY! NO ARENADO WRONG GUY

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  36. Joe S

    6 months ago

    Arenado has a problem accepting that he is not a star any longer. The talk of him moving to 1st is dumb as his value is more qith his defense at third. Offensively he would be in the 20 ton30 range for 1st basement.

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  37. jmaa

    6 months ago

    As a cards fan, I’m ecstatic to see MO’s plans blow up in his face. He needs to grow a sack and make the minor moves needed to compete in the weak af nl central.

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  38. BigWorm78

    6 months ago

    I don’t understand why every article that discusses an Arenado to Boston deal, always states that it would require moving Devers to first base; and trading Casas. Moving Devers to DH, and trading Yoshida is the better/easier/smarter move. I understand moving Yoshida is harder because of a number of things (age, contract, production, recent surgery, defensive limitations); but cover half his remaining deal and I bet a number of teams would be willing to take him. It’s not like he’s completely without value…the guy can hit when healthy. He’s not a slugger, but he’d be an upgrade at DH for at least 5-7 teams. Regardless, saying for the Sox to acquire Arenado would make trading Casas a NECESSITY, is just wrong.

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  39. detroitdave84

    6 months ago

    St Louis would need to eat half the contract for the Tigers to be interested

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    • jmaa

      6 months ago

      That’s why Mo is stuck. Can’t pay a chunk of $ to move arenado. For some reason Dewits are liquidating. We are watching the dismantling of a quality run. Otherwise known as being Kroenkied.

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  40. Niekro floater

    6 months ago

    U think ? Been trying to pawn him off since WS ended. Found a buyer but Arenado dug his heels in on wanting to be Dodger. Rather have Muncy, puts up better #s n is cheaper. Glad they were not interested.

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  41. paulk-2

    6 months ago

    And he shouldn’t be traded. He is the only player worth watching in St. Louis. This offense could be pretty darn good if a few guys take step forward. If they can find a RP and a couple decent starters, they can compete for this division.

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  42. MLBTR needs to hire editors

    6 months ago

    “If that feels like a lot of words effectively downplaying the possibility of a trade and maintaining the status quo — well, it is.”

    MLBTR in a nutshell. The amount of digital ink it expends on very little is crazy, especially compared to Hoops Rumors.

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