Shohei Ohtani threw his third live session against hitters today and, as Jack Harris of the Los Angeles Times relays, his 44 pitches across three simulated innings of work went so well that Dodgers manager Dave Roberts went as far as to admit that the organization hasn’t completely ruled out the idea of Ohtani returning to the mound sooner than previously expected. The expectation in recent weeks has been that Ohtani would return to the mound at some point following the All-Star break, which runs from July 14 to July 17 this year. Today, however, Harris notes that Roberts indicated to reporters that there’s a “north of zero” chance that Ohtani is pitching in major league games before the break.
It’s a notable update on Ohtani’s timeline, even though Roberts’s phrasing hardly frames the idea of a return before the midsummer classic as guaranteed or even likely. Ohtani’s timeline has been kept extremely vague by Dodgers officials ever since he began ramping up shortly after Opening Day after his pitching rehab was paused in late February. Prior to that pause, the Dodgers were thought to be targeting a return to pitching at some point in May for Ohtani, but the timeline was pushed back to at some point in the second half after the club began to slow down his rehab process. In recent weeks, Roberts and team officials had begun to point to the All-Star break as the point after which Ohtani pitching in big league games for the Dodgers could be on the table.
That the possibility of him pitching before then has been acknowledged publicly at this point underscores that his rehab has been going quite well to this point, but could also be an acknowledgement of the Dodgers’ significant needs in the rotation. The Dodgers sport a 40-27 record at the moment that’s excellent on paper but doesn’t quite live up to the lofty expectations hoisted upon the reigning World Series champs before the season began. They’re just 1.5 games up on the Giants in the NL West, and would finish half a game back of the Cubs for a bye through the Wild Card round of the playoffs if the season ended today.
Issues with starting pitching have been the biggest thing holding the Dodgers back from pulling away from the rest of the league this year, as their 4.66 FIP in the rotation is worse than every NL club except the lowly Rockies. With eight starting pitchers currently on the IL and Ohtani also sidelined, L.A. is currently operating with a patchwork rotation that features Yoshinobu Yamamoto, Dustin May, Clayton Kershaw, and Justin Wrobleski. Yamamoto is in the NL Cy Young conversation this year, but Kershaw and especially May have pitched more like back-of-the-rotation veterans this year than the dominant arms they’ve been in previous seasons. Virtually any rotation in baseball would be better off with Ohtani’s electric arm in the mix, but the state of the Dodgers’ pitching staff could make them especially eager to get Ohtani back into the fold.
Of course, that’s not to say they’re about the rush their two-way superstar back into pitching before they’re confident he’s ready. It would have been easy for the Dodgers to make Ohtani in at least some capacity during last year’s playoff run, when the pitching staff was down so many starters they had to run regular bullpen games throughout the playoffs. They elected not to do so, however, instead prioritizing making sure Ohtani was fully healthy and ready to resume pitching before risking putting him on the mound in a big league game again. Even with today’s comments from Roberts, there’s little reason to think the Dodgers would send Ohtani out to the mound at Dodger Stadium before the break unless they’re completely confident he’s ready to resume pitching at a high level.
Patience.
Honestly, even if he only pitches like 3-4 innings the first few starts, it would be incredible if he is ready sooner… but only if he is actually ready.
He should become a closer
A bright idea. Make Ohtani the closer.
So it’s the 8th inning. He’s hitting third that inning with the game on the line. Runners in scoring position. When exactly do you envision him warming up?
If he’s hitting in the top of the 8th he warms up in the bottom of the 8th, if he’s hitting in the bottom of the 8th he warms up in the top of the 8th… he’s literally sitting on the bench when he isn’t at bat
OK you have no clue what it takes to do that. Try watching some baseball.
Have you watched baseball? It’s done fairly frequently in college baseball and is really easy to do.
Well….the majors aren’t college baseball……
I guess pitchers have to warm up magically different when they get to the Majors.
Do you have any advice based on little league?
Yes, you shouldn’t coach it.
That is actually a great come back. Baseless, but an excellent jibe.
In between pitches at the plate. 15-18 seconds is plenty of time to toss one back towards the mound.
New Ohtani rule: when he’s at bat, the catcher flips the ball to him to throw back to the pitcher. That way, he’s always warmed up to pitch.
It’s just that simple.
This is today’s gullibility test. The previous one was the “non-zero” chance of Ohtani pitching in last year’s postseason. Did you pass or fail last time?
A non zero chance doesn’t mean a guaranteed yes, it just means there is a chance. The only way that can be an incorrect statement is if they claim a 100% chance.
Non-zero chance: 0.00000000000000000001%
Oddly enough, that very tiny percentage is also north of 0.
What the other poster is saying is that they used this same phrasing before and it didn’t happen. So consider this equally unlikely.
0.00000000000000000001% of the time, I’m correct 100% of the time.
So….you’re telling me there’s a chance!
@Bivouac..”So it’s the 8th inning…envision him warming up”…
Tell Ohtani to “man up”. Any real baseball player with stones would just warm up in the on deck circle or in the batters box, between pitches. This catering to the special needs of Ohtani has got to stop.
🙂
Can’t he just do long toss from the on deck circle to the outfield bullpen to warm up?
Don’t blame them being careful, you don’t want to lose him both ways.
Besides, they have 99 pitchers around, even though they are playing 99 pitchers on the wall.
I’ve got 99 problems but a pitch ain’t one. Hit me!
Let the gambler heal up
Sorry you’re still mad about Freddie Freeman.
ASG starter?
Since he blocked me, someone should tell “This one belongs to the Reds” that the Reds only have 5 less players on the IL than the Dodgers… The Red Sox have 2 less with 12.
Nobody cares.
So, you’re saying there’s a chance…
Hero’s always supposed to come late, the stage is all set for the big guy.
Since they aren’t going to lose his bat by letting him have an actual rehab assignment to build up arm strength and endurance they are going to keep doing these simulated games until he actually looks game ready, after that it’s hold your breath and hope his elbow holds up
It has long held up if he has already gone from bullpen sessions progressing onto sim games. All of matter of overall strength building now. It won’t be because of the repaired elbow if he has a setback.
Obviously- he’s falling apart.
Better trade him now while you still have a chance……
Preferably…
to the Tigers.
Dodgers are getting desperate as they fall towards the middle of e league.
@Mets Era Thumping Soto
Yep, they’re in collapse mode. Better sell everyone at the deadline!
/s
You do realize they are only in the playoffs by a couple games? It’s not like we are almost a half season in or nothing. I guess they would be fine missing the playoffs by a game or two.
@Mets Era Thumping Soto
They’re 5th place in the whole league and only 4 games away from the Mets. Does that mean the Mets are also a few games away from missing the playoffs? Hilarious!
It is hilarious. The loss tonight and they are in a third place tie in their division. Do you think sending out Wrobelski is getting them there? And I 100% think the Mets are thinking about moves to better their team and aren’t banking on a 6 game lead to make the playoffs. The Dodgers thought they could slow roll Ohtani because they were so good and realize now that was a big error.
All we hear from the so-called “Mets Era” is Dodgers this and Dodgers that. Quite an obsession you have. Wonder why that is.
Inferiority complex. The LOLMets eras were quite tough on him.
Anyone that ever used the term LOLmets had an inferiority complex and just isn’t a very smart person.
I don’t purport to be smart here. Just sensible.
@Mets Era Thumping Soto
Spoken like a fan who cares about regular season accolades. Mets are doing great so far this regular season. Super glad your front office is getting better at playing checkers.
Congrats.
I like it. Since he’d be a 14th pitcher, he wouldn’t displace anyone. If he can get people out with his rehab stuff, taking even 3 innings a week would help the pen a lot.
You are INSANE if you think it’s a good idea for him to pitch again. He is going to GET HURT!!!!! How many more dodgers pitchers have to go down before some of you understand this?
So you undetstand tons of their pitchers (11 starters!!!!!!!!!!) are hurt…. so why can’t you also understand how incredibly awesome it would be if he is actually ready to pitch. he wants to pitch and frankly the dodgers need him to pitch.
What would you suggest they do to not have pitchers get hurt? Not use any? Just forfeit all the games? What a ridiculous comment. They signed him to be a 2-way player, its what he wants to do also, and that was an important part of his decision where to sign, that he be allowed to do that whenever possible (aka healthy).
How is what I’m saying ridiculous? You think it’s worth risking losing your best offensive player for a prolonged period so he can pitch 3-4 innings every 6 days because it’s what HE wants to do??? You seem to think this guy is invincible and this is some type of video game we’re living in where he’ll just be able to go out there, no rehab starts after not pitching for 2 years and be effective and stay healthy.
Sometimes what a guy wants to do isn’t what’s best for the team. But of course, in your fantasy world, every thing is always ok. When (and if because
I still don’t think this is happening) he goes back out there, tears his UCL his second outing, and he’s now unable to even hit anymore, remember this…
AGAIN WHEN DOES THE CONFORTO EXPERIMENT END!!!!!!! PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. END IT
As a fan of baseball , this is great news. Ohtani is far and away the biggest star in MLB. When he does finally get back on the mound,Manfred and MLB should broadcast his games on free TV. I remember when Pete Rose was chasing the consecutive game hitting streak,one of the networks would cut in and show his atbats live.
The last time they did that on broadcast TV was during the McGwire/Sosa chase for 62. It wasn’t done for Bonds to 70 except on cable sports channels. With RSNs now, I doubt they’ll do any of that for Ohtani.
Knowing how much he prepares himself, I wouldn’t be surprised if Ohtani accrued 2 to 3 WAR just from pitching 2 months or so on the season.