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Nationals Interview Cubs’ GM Carter Hawkins In Front Office Search

By Anthony Franco | September 9, 2025 at 8:36pm CDT

8:36pm: The Nats have also contacted Diamondbacks assistant GM Amiel Sawdaye and Dodgers senior vice president Josh Byrnes, report Ken Rosenthal, Patrick Mooney and Sahadev Sharma of The Athletic. Sawdaye has worked as one of Mike Hazen’s top executives in Arizona for nearly a decade. Byrnes, a former head of baseball operations in San Diego and Arizona, has been part of Andrew Friedman’s team in Los Angeles since 2014. Byrnes and Sawdaye have both been in consideration in various front office searches over the past few years.

8:28pm: The Nationals interviewed Cubs general manger Carter Hawkins in their search for a baseball operations leader, reports Bob Nightengale of USA Today. Washington dismissed longtime front office head Mike Rizzo alongside manager Dave Martinez in July.

Assistant general manager Mike DeBartolo has taken over operations on an interim basis for the past three months. That included the pivotal decision to select Eli Willits with the #1 pick in the draft and overseeing their relatively quiet trade deadline. DeBartolo has been a member of the organization for over a decade and worked as one of Rizzo’s top lieutenants for the past six seasons. Barry Svrluga of The Washington Post suggested this evening that DeBartolo is likely to get some consideration for the full-time position.

The final call should only be a few weeks away. Svrluga indicates the Nationals hope to have a decision made by the end of the season. It’s sensible they wouldn’t want an interim GM going into the offseason. Nightengale writes that Hawkins interviewed last week and calls him a “finalist” for the position. That suggests ownership has already begun to narrow the field.

Hawkins, 41, has been Chicago’s general manager since the beginning of the 2021-22 offseason. As is increasingly common, that makes him the #2 decision-maker. Title inflation around the league means that few teams now have a “general manager” atop their front office hierarchy. That’s usually held by a president of baseball operations (Jed Hoyer, in the Cubs’ case) with the GM standing as the second in command.

That’s why the Cubs would permit Hawkins to interview with the Nationals. If he were to get the job, it would represent a promotion and presumably come with his own president of baseball operations title. Before going to Chicago, Hawkins spent over a decade working his way up the Cleveland front office. He worked as an assistant GM there for five seasons.

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  1. RyanD44

    1 month ago

    Take him! This is the same guy that defended the Cubs trade deadline by saying they have to have a focus on now, but also on 2032.

    The Cubs front office has no desire to build an elite team. Their current philosophy is just be “good enough” every year to be in the mix and hope for the best when October comes. They believe October is a crapshoot, and while there is some merit to that, because it comes down to teams getting hot at the right time, having elite pitching both in your rotation and bullpen almost always plays in October. When’s the last time the Cubs had a pitcher with elite stuff – rotation or bullpen?

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    • Mr Mojo Rising

      1 month ago

      They play in the early rounds, not the later ones. The Mets 5 Aces lost the WS 4 games to 1

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    • cwsOverhaul

      1 month ago

      The rookie Horton perhaps first one in a while. They have a G1 caliber starter-looks like biggest point of optimism they have going for them in a 2 out of 3 WC round.

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    • Chicago Expat

      1 month ago

      You’ve got Imanaga, Steele, and Boyd as recent all-stars. You’ve got Horton as a promising rookie.
      Arrieta won the Cy Young in 2015 and still elite in 2016. Also from 2016, you had Jon Lester and Kyle Hendricks, plus Aroldis Chapman.

      I haven’t been overwhelmed by the Hoyer-Hawkins tandem, but the hatred they engender on these boards is well out of proportion to what they deserve. The Cubs could certainly do better, but there’s many more teams out there doing much worse.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        1 month ago

        Chicago

        I agree. I would not have extended Hoyer not because he is a disaster, he is just very average. Probably somewhere in between 12 and 18 among POBOs. They smartly kept Horton, Shaw, Caissie, Alcantara and Ballesteros. The Cubs are in the mix this year and Jed is neither the hero nor the villain. The Cubs have drafted well but not extraordinary, they made some smart cheap acquisitions like Boyd and Kelly. To early to call a winner or loser on Ferris and Hope for Busch, a deal that I hated at the time.

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        • rondon

          1 month ago

          Yeah, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I’m not a believer in Hoyer. If he had developed a consistently strong farm system, they’d have a better base to work from, ie, the Brewers. He’s made some good moves- drafting Horton, trading for PCA, signing Boyd. But after what I thought was an “all in” move to trade for Tucker, he did nothing to support it at the deadline. Soroka? That was like putting a bandaid on a bullet wound. Ridiculous. He’s also hamstrung by Ricketts, the big market owner with a small market brain. Oh he spends. But outside of his initial big splash with Epstein, (who probably wouldn’t have taken the job without that promise), he’s refused to spend for a Bryce Harper level FA like NY, Philly, or LA have. Sure, you can point to the Brewers who haven’t spent like that either. But they have a uniquely strong farm system that works (for the most part) without that…. I think Hawkins would love to get out.

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    • Ben Jamin

      1 month ago

      Kerry Wood/Mark Prior?

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  2. mlb fan

    1 month ago

    We chart, measure and calculate everytime an on-field athlete makes or takes a bowel movement.

    Where’s the analytics charts that measure, chart and calculate the quality of a team’s GM or front office executives?

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      1 month ago

      MLB Fan

      You could have made a “solid” point without the number two reference.

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  3. Awesom-O

    1 month ago

    (Rodney Dangerfield voice): Take my GM. Please!

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    • mlb fan

      1 month ago

      I don’t do impressions and quit calling me “Shirley”.

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    • Bucket Number Six

      1 month ago

      That would be Henny Youngman, but okay.

      Maybe the Cubs should have fired Jed and hired Mike Rizzo when he became available.🤣

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      • Awesom-O

        1 month ago

        I’m sure you’re right. I just always imagined Rodney saying it for whatever reason. Probably bc I’ve only ever heard him tell wife jokes.

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        • believeitornot

          1 month ago

          Rodney said he needed two girls. That way they would be able to talk to each other if he fell asleep.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        1 month ago

        Better chance they get Anthony Rizzo as a special advisor

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  4. Jswag

    1 month ago

    Yeah, pick a Cubs disciple. Definitely not a Brewers front office mind.

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  5. cwsOverhaul

    1 month ago

    Interview at least 1 person from each of Milw/TB/Clev that succeed on a budget.

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    • Jswag

      1 month ago

      No. Interview big market Cubs and Angels execs and success will soon follow.

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  6. Chrome 8550

    1 month ago

    Angels really ? The angels farm system is rated one of worse systems in baseball for years. Put the crack pipe down !

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  7. Logjammer D'Baggagecling

    1 month ago

    Please take him Gnats.

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  8. Tom Emansk1

    1 month ago

    Joke is on them, Carter Hawkins doesn’t exist. He’s a figment of Jed’s imagination, Tyler Durden style.

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  9. ChiSoxCity

    1 month ago

    Must be nice to suck at your job and still get a promotion. Certain people are privileged.

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    • Manfred Rob's Earth Band

      1 month ago

      Great point about Chris Getz.

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  10. kevnames42

    1 month ago

    Please proofread

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  11. Alan53

    1 month ago

    Oh yes, great choice! Go get him, Nats! We’ll be sooooo sorry to see this great baseball mind leave the Cubs organization, but what can ya say, the cream always rises to the top.

    Look out for those Nasty Nats in 2032!

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    • 920falcon

      1 month ago

      2033

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  12. jhanley108

    1 month ago

    Jeez, a team that blows a 6.5 game lead to 5.5 deficit in only 2 months, no extension for Hawkins?

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  13. Barstool Rodeo

    1 month ago

    If Hawkins gets the job maybe he’ll flip Gore to the Cubs 🙂

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  14. MonkeySpanker

    1 month ago

    Take Falvey…please…we’ll give you a truck load of used baseballs to sweeten the deal.

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  15. believeitornot

    1 month ago

    What does contracted mean in this situation? To enter into a legally binding agreement? It seems more likely they contacted 2 others.

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  16. believeitornot

    1 month ago

    Was hoping thad Levine would get the top job but he’s not even mentioned.

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