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Giants Chairman Greg Johnson Discusses Team Spending

By Mark Polishuk | November 1, 2025 at 2:57pm CDT

Giants chairman Greg Johnson discussed several topics in an interview with John Shea of the San Francisco Standard, including some talk about how the team plans to spend this winter.  As usual with any upper-level executive, Johnson spoke in generalities about payroll rather than citing any specific figures, and downplayed the idea of any huge spending splashes.  For instance, while Johnson cited “starting pitching help” as “probably No. 1 on the list” of offseason priorities, he said the Giants would “be very cautious about” signing a pitcher to a nine-figure contract.

As to whether or not the Giants would exceed the $244MM luxury tax limit or not, “it just depends on what’s out there.  We may be over.  We may be under,” Johnson said.  “We’re going to look at each situation and make the decision and see how it fits into not only next year, but the longer-term plans.”

San Francisco has exceeded the Competitive Balance Tax line four times in their history.  They paid the tax in each of the 2015-17 seasons, as a function of the rising costs associated with trying to keep their championship core from the early 10’s teams together.  The club also narrowly exceeded the tax line in 2024, as a function of the Giants making a series of pricey acquisitions during the 2023-24 offseason.

In 2025, the Giants ducked back under the tax line, even after some more prominent moves — i.e. extending Matt Chapman, signing Willy Adames to a seven-year/$182MM free agent deal, and their June trade for Rafael Devers.  Even with these salaries involved plus major commitments to Logan Webb, Jung Hoo Lee, and Robbie Ray, San Francisco’s books are relatively clean since almost all of the team’s money is tied into just these six players.  Ray is also a free agent next winter, leaving more space open for longer-term commitments even though Johnson is wary of such contracts.

“We can go up [in spending], but I think the risk is having too many people on similar six-year-type deals that create less flexibility to the payroll,” Johnson said.  “I think you can always do things on a shorter basis, but you’ve got to be careful about having too many of your players being late 30s at a high-payroll level.  I think you have to balance that.”

San Francisco fans may not love hearing about ownership’s financial caution, yet pretty much any owner or front office executive would share Johnson’s concerns on overspending now on players who could soon be future albatrosses.  This was, in fact, the very situation the Giants found themselves in during their previous taxpayor years, once some of the key players from their World Series teams started to decline.

There’s also the fact that the Giants are far enough under the $244MM tax line that there’s room for the team to spend rather substantially this winter while still remaining under the threshold.  Cot’s Baseball Contracts estimates the Giants at roughly a $152.7MM payroll and a $182MM tax figure for 2026, while RosterResource’s estimates are a bit higher ($169.3MM payroll and a $192.4MM tax number).

Whichever estimate you prefer, Giants president of baseball operations Buster Posey figures to have financial flexibility in pursuing more big-ticket targets this winter.  Upgrading the pitching staff (not to mention the team’s other needs) likely won’t come cheap, and with just one winning record in their last nine seasons, the Giants figure to again be very active in trying to get back into contention.

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  1. Non Roster Invitee

    4 hours ago

    Lowe or Torres at 2B?

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    • Jean Matrac

      3 hours ago

      Not Torres please.

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    • Jean Matrac

      2 hours ago

      And I didn’t realize that as bad a defender Torres is, Lowe is even worse. So please no on both.

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      • Non Roster Invitee

        2 hours ago

        Agreed. No on both. Maybe Arraez?

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        • mab51357

          2 hours ago

          I still believe the Giants should give Casey Schmitt a shot at 2B in 2026. I think if they give him steady playing time he could be the answer. Absolutely a really strong defender and he made some really good progress on offense in 2025. Give him the kind of leash that Fitzgerald was given last year. Schmitt also has pretty good pop in his bat. Hell, Fitgerald had 10 RBI’s or so mid season before the experiment finally ended with demotion to AAA for good. Sure would save some money if Schmitt keeps improving. He’s also a great backup to Chapman and Adames if needed. My 2 cents.

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        • oldgfan

          1 hour ago

          I’m on board unless a huge upgrade is made like Bichette. Casey has upside that looks like it can develop with regular playing time.

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        • Non Roster Invitee

          1 hour ago

          I like him for backup. He played all the infield positions last season but his D is below average.
          He is basically a replacement level player which makes him a good candidate for top bench spot.
          Upgrade Giants!

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        • Mr. E Team

          22 mins ago

          I agree his defense is good, but his best asset is his arm. 2B is more about range which savant/statcast has Schmidt as below average. He could improve with more dedication to the position.
          His sweet spot rate was 95 percentile which makes up for some defense issues.

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    • Sadler

      1 hour ago

      I wouldn’t give up on Casey Schmitt just yet. He has 20+ homer potential over a full season.

      Reply
  2. rhandome

    4 hours ago

    Free agency this year will be tough, for the Giants and every team. There are no real superstars available, so everyone will be bidding against each other on risky players. A huge contract for Tucker, Cease, or Framber could turn ugly real quick.

    I want the Giants to spend this off-season… but intelligently. Don’t give Kyle Tucker $400M. Don’t give Framber 7 years. Beyond that, hard to say exactly what they should do. Depends how the market shapes up.

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      4 hours ago

      If you made a team out of the best free agent at every position this year you’d have a darn good team.

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    • carl wheezer

      4 hours ago

      Trade for Skubal sign him to 8 y 300 m

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      • padrepapi

        4 hours ago

        Got to think Boras is going to want to set a new free agent record and get Skubal more than the 324m Cole got 6 years ago.

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        • Redwolves3

          3 hours ago

          Giants need quality SP & RP but don’t be suckered into overspending $$$/years on any of Boras’ clients. There are plenty of options without giving into Boras’ demands

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      • mab51357

        1 hour ago

        Wheezer: As Johnson mentioned in this article. I don’t see them going anymore than 3-4 years on a FA pitcher. I think depending on how Ray looks early 2026 that they’ll probably add a couple years to keep him. He’s pretty happy as a Giant. Also hope they bring Tyler Rogers back.

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  3. mlb fan

    4 hours ago

    Free agency and trades work best when used to supplement and augment a good drafting and development plan, not replace them.

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  4. davemlaw

    4 hours ago

    My worry is the Giants biggest off season acquisition is Vitello. That’s not going to turn this team around.

    Bieber would be a nice start. No QO attached. Merrill Kelly would be great too. On the trade front, Brendan Donovan makes a ton of sense. 2 years of arbitration left. By 2028 Kilen should be ready. And if Giants trade for Gray and Donovan plus all Gray’s salary the trade capital would be minimal. But Gray has to waive his No Trade.

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    • Wilmer the Thrillmer

      4 hours ago

      How about trading Ray and a prospect for DeGrom?

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      • davemlaw

        4 hours ago

        I like Ray for one more year as a Giant.
        I don’t have a problem trading for DeGrom if the price is right.

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        • _balderdash_

          3 hours ago

          I’d hold on to Ray and see where the team is at the deadline.

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        • Wilmer the Thrillmer

          3 hours ago

          Ray faded down the stretch. He still had a very nice year. I think if the Giants could trade Ray plus a prospect or two for DeGrom, it would give the Giants another ace plus save the Rangers 51mil over the next 2 seasons.

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        • Jean Matrac

          2 hours ago

          Ray fading down the stretch could have been from 2025 being his first full season back from TJS. As dominant as he was early last season, I’d hold on to him.

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        • foppert3

          2 hours ago

          Got to hold onto him. So much else to do around him.

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        • mab51357

          1 hour ago

          davemlaw: Can DeGrom be trusted healthwise? I do like Sonny Gray. I think he’s underrated. It’ll be an interesting off season.

          Reply
    • PadreJoe

      4 hours ago

      yep, a college coach with no MLB experience is the Giants big move this off season.

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    • Jean Matrac

      3 hours ago

      I like all those ideas except Merrill Kelly. He’ll be 37, and though he was having a nice season in AZ, didn’t do well in Texas, after the trade.

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      • oldgfan

        3 hours ago

        Substitute Zack Gallen.
        There, all fixed.

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        • Jean Matrac

          2 hours ago

          Actually, my preference is neither. Gallen hasn’t been the same guy over the last 2-3 years that he was earlier in his career. I could be wrong though because he just turned 30.

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        • oldgfan

          2 hours ago

          Good enough for a #4 guy.

          Reply
  5. TheBull

    4 hours ago

    This is just laughable. Giants ownership is a joke. This is not an ownership group commited to winning.
    Quite the contrary,This is an ownership group that has fielded a team that has only finished with a winning record once since 2016
    They had a chance to bring in a new president of baseball operations last year to fix this mess. They could have brought in an experienced executive from Cleveland, Tampa Bay or Milwaukee.
    Instead they hired an ex MLB catcher. With no experience in running an organization.
    Giants incompetent ownership also just signed off on this ex players recommendation to hire a college coach to lead this team next year.

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    • PadreJoe

      4 hours ago

      In the NL West Giants have become irrelevant. So nobody cares. But I totally agree that hiring Posey was bad. They’re cooked

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      • rhandome

        3 hours ago

        Padres fan calling another team irrelevant…

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        • oldgfan

          3 hours ago

          Talking to themselves and thumbs up to there multiple account madness.

          1
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      • mab51357

        1 hour ago

        Do the Padres still need a manager? I will agree that the Padres kicked our butt this year, but to say the Giants are irrelevant is incorrect. With all the talent the Padres have they didn’t really go very far at all.

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    • rhandome

      3 hours ago

      lol ok

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    • foppert3

      2 hours ago

      PadreJoe enters the fray. Ha ha. You are a new account machine ! You did avoid the 500 stat so props for that.

      1
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  6. MathBallXpert

    4 hours ago

    2B needs improving.
    Luis Arraez could be someone you target and put atop your order as that high on base guy

    RF could be anothr area of improvement- Harrison Bader possibly

    Catching wise maybe you swing a deal for one of the Marlins catchers or someone with catching depth

    Pitching wise Chris Bassit would make a great veteran leader as your #3

    Maybe you let Eldridge be your full time DH maybe you get a veteran one. Ryan O Hearn

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  7. Another Dodgers Fan

    4 hours ago

    To summarize what I just read:

    “While we definitely believe in numbers, our opinion of those numbers depends on the perspective we look at them. Therefore, we’ll be taking a closer look at the numbers to determine the best way to look at them. We take numbers seriously, as our fans expect us to do. We’re thankful for this opportunity to share this optimistic outlook with our fans.”

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  8. Non Roster Invitee

    3 hours ago

    This is an interview! The last thing I want is to answer a lot of questions!

    Reply
  9. Hawkaroo

    3 hours ago

    Stretch

    Reply
  10. Deke

    3 hours ago

    “We might do this or we might do the opposite of this”. Can’t wait for an AI to filter out the news that says nothing.

    Reply
    • oldgfan

      3 hours ago

      A I will be the worst mistake known to mankind. We are devolving as a species.

      Reply
      • foppert3

        2 hours ago

        Uncertain times for sure. Tipping points everywhere you look.

        1
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      • Ignorant Son-of-a-b

        2 hours ago

        The AI bubble and the crypto bubble will soon lay havoc to our economy. Fasten your chin straps and have your emergency parachute with you at all times.

        1
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    • Jean Matrac

      2 hours ago

      What did you want Johnson to say? That they’re going to spend stupid money and go after certain specific guys? He’s the owner, not the PBO. His responsibility is financial issues. That’s what he addressed. What he said was it’s possible if needed they can exceed the tax threshold. And neither he nor Posey know which FAs they can land, or how much money that will take.

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  11. Redwolves3

    3 hours ago

    Posey won’t act hastily or impulsively to sign FA/trade. He will make calculated moves that best fit the Giants needs

    Posey wants to win & do whatever it takes to make the Giants successful

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  12. This one belongs to the Reds

    3 hours ago

    He was real clear on that question, wasn’t he?

    He has a future in politics.

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  13. Jean Matrac

    3 hours ago

    As a Giants’ fan I’m encouraged. Johnson said the team should “be very cautious about” signing a pitcher to a nine-figure contract. Absolutely. Any GM/PBO/owner that isn’t cautious about a contract like that is a fool.

    I like the fact that Johnson didn’t preclude the possibility of exceeding the tax threshold. That’s better than what some fans get with owners letting the fans know they want to absolutely avoid the tax, duck under, or reduce spending.

    Not sure what fans expected him to say. John Middleton made the mistake years ago saying that the Phillies were going to spend stupid money. That backfired. And I liked the news that Posey appears to have financial flexibility in pursuing more big-ticket targets this winter.

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    • oldgfan

      2 hours ago

      JM I way better than A I, every day.
      Thanks for being the voice of reason.

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    • foppert3

      2 hours ago

      Yeah. Same. It’s been a fluid year when it comes to front office decisions.

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    • davemlaw

      1 hour ago

      I like what Johnson said about long term deals for players into their later 30’s.
      With Chappy, Adames and Devers this team will be getting long in the tooth before you know it. Pitchers can age better than hitters so hoping SFG signs an arm to a long term deal.

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  14. Mr. E Team

    2 hours ago

    Signing Ranger Suarez would solidify the rotation.
    A reliever with high upside potential like Devon Williams would also be a smart move.
    I am intrigued by Tatsuya Imai coming over form NPB. The Dodgers can’t sign ever Japanese pitcher, right ?

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    • oldgfan

      2 hours ago

      The Japanipulation of the Fodgers runs extremely deep my friend.

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    • Jean Matrac

      2 hours ago

      Yeah, I love Ranger Suarez. Of the top pitching FAs He’s the one I hope Posey gets.

      I like the idea of Devin Williams as well. I think he’d benefit a lot pitching at Oracle.

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      • oldgfan

        2 hours ago

        No agent listed on BR for Suarez ?

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  15. JayRyder

    2 hours ago

    Trades coming. Can’t buy everything they need.

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  16. JayRyder

    2 hours ago

    Farhan still talking stats only ?

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    • rhandome

      23 mins ago

      who?

      Reply
  17. Brick House Coffee Tables Inc

    2 hours ago

    I understand the point of view. He’s not saying he’s not going to spend; he’s saying he’s not going to channel Peter Seidler and hand out a bunch of 9-11 year deals.

    A 3/54, a 4/80, a 5/125, and a 7/224 still comes out to $85M/yr AAV for 2026-2028.

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    • foppert3

      1 hour ago

      That’s what it sounds like. The books are maxed out on the 5+ year deals. Need to try and keep them shorter for flexibility.

      Reply
  18. azcrook

    2 hours ago

    Boycott any Boras client if at all possible

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