The Phillies have prioritized reunions with Kyle Schwarber and J.T. Realmuto. They succeeded in bringing back the MVP runner-up on a five-year deal at the Winter Meetings. Realmuto’s free agency has been more extended, leaving the Phils in a holding pattern behind the plate.
While a reunion with their longtime catcher remains the priority, Matt Gelb of The Athletic writes that it’s not a lock to come to fruition. The sides obviously have yet to align on contract terms despite Philadelphia’s willingness to offer multiple years. Gelb writes that the Phillies have been involved in trade conversations about potential alternatives. Although there’s no indication anything is close on that front, that highlights the biggest question for the front office.
Aside from Realmuto, the free agent catching market is bleak. Danny Jansen is off the board on a two-year deal with Texas. Victor Caratini is the only other potential starting option, and he has been more of a high-end #2 catcher over the course of his career. Everyone else is a backup or organizational depth type.
That’s also true of the two catchers currently on Philly’s roster, Rafael Marchán and Garrett Stubbs. Marchán was a promising enough prospect that it isn’t out of the question that he could be a solid glove-first starter if given the opportunity. That’d be a gamble for a win-now team, though, and clubs are sometimes reluctant to upgrade the position at the trade deadline because of the adjustment of learning a pitching staff in the middle of a pennant race. The worst case scenario for the Phils is that they wait out Realmuto’s market but get outbid after Caratini has already signed elsewhere. That’d leave them with little choice but to turn to the trade market.
At the same time, they’re probably reluctant to make a trade while Realmuto is still a free agent. Marchán and Stubbs are both out of minor league options. They’re already likely to expose one of them to waivers before Opening Day. Trading for a catcher and re-signing Realmuto could mean losing both of them, as there’s a good chance another team would claim Marchán. Realmuto’s heavy workloads don’t leave much playing time for his backup, so that’s not an ideal use of resources.
The Phils’ trade conversations may be due diligence for now. They still seem likelier than not to figure something out with Realmuto. If that doesn’t come together, speculative trade options include Pedro Pagés, J.C. Escarra, Connor Wong and Jose Trevino.

That would be a wild twist if Realmuto landed elsewhere.
Os seem all in for this year- so swapping Adley for a pospect haul similar to what they gave p for Baz, and the sign a short term C like REalmuto.
Orioles still have confidence in Adley
James123: Realmuto might command 3 years if he can get it. That’s not very short term.
But again, only if he can get it.
As a Phillies fan this is a good idea. Always have a backup plan
A backup backup, if you will.
Realmuto has always been better and is still much more valuable than Jonah Heim, but have the latter’s latest two seasons been so bad that Anthony’s correct to include Heim in the category of “Everyone else… a backup or organizational depth type?”
The Rangers non-tendered Jonah Heim rather than risk keeping him on a ~6mil partially guaranteed contract. As they weren’t able to trade him, we can assume no other team was willing either.
But maybe he gets a backup gig somewhere…(I wasn’t sure if you were joking)
Entering his age 35 season and his offense has declined 4 years in a row, ill pass! Call the Cardinals, they have a bunch of catchers
wRC+ has his 2024 as better than 2023. But old catchers can be especially risky.
Edgar Quero for Crawford. Both were ranked around same last year. Quero looked good in MLB rookie year and Crawford near ready to prove the same. Both premium positions. That said, doubt Philly uses/trades cheap talent for C when they have to balance out quite a few highly paid stars.
Then what do they do for cf
@Oppo – City of Brotherly Love needs Master Bader.
Phillies are not trading Crawford for weak hitting overrated Quero. Crawford is their CF for the next 5 years, Quero is a lifelong backup catcher.
I think Quero is likely more than a career backup…. but i do agree the would not swap drawford for him.
Teel for Crawford would be better
Maybe Crawford for Teel.
Even though he’s in decline the Phillies need Realmuto. Phillies know it and so does Realmuto. Leaking ‘trade discussions’ smells like a negotiating ploy. Another week of this dance and then something gets done.
depends on how Realmuto plays it. Honestly i think the phillies want him to realize that no other team is going to make anything more than a 1 year offer with incentives….
Trade market may bring up a long term piece, but even then they are likely to want a realmuto as a bridge….. but the phillies do not have the strongest system anymore.
Nothing anywhere is likely to happen until the new year.
Hmm, I would say my O’s could potentially have Rutschman available, as they made it clear that Basallo is the future at the position. Its not a perfect match though as at this point we need a starting pitcher of the 1-2 slot variety. I imagine we’re content to keep Adley and Basallo taking turns in the catcher/DH role, while we deal from the excess of 1b guys like Mayo/Mountcastle. In my opinion though, the Phils are better off resigning Realmuto rather than going the trade route.
Offensively his numbers have come down a bit but defensively he still seems to be the same guy. He’s certainly made a good amount of money in his career, maybe he’s looking for an even better shot at a championship, even though Philly lost to the eventual champs. Hard to say but the marriage between Realmuto and Philly is definitely better off continuing in my opinion.
i think the issue would be the logical return for Adley would be Crawford- and he is penciled in at CF for the Phils already…..
And you already have Bradfield knocking at the door for the O’s as well, Not to mention Adley has had a rough couple of recent years. It would take a pretty convoluted deal for sure. One that I imagine the Phils balk at entirely and the O’s unwilling to give up the necessary components to get it done. Still fun to hypothesize though lol.
Not sure adley commands much in a trade at this point after the past 1.5 seasons.
Phillies would be best served letting the old man go to Tampa or San Diego. He can’t hit, he is one of worst framers in MLB, and he is no better defensively than Marchan. Money can be better used elsewhere. But because DD is an idiot he’ll cave and give him too much money.
Take a breath. I promise whatever you’re going through will be ok.
Tampa never ponies up for aging guys like Realmuto.
Trade Target = Ryan Jeffers of the Twins
You’ve gotta believe there are better trade targets than the ones listed
New business model. Draft catchers
Rotate them to different positions like how ss become 3b 2b ofs
Draft all catchers
Rotate to different positions so they can play C/1B/3B/COF
Trade to catcher needy teams
Profit premium prospects