A pair of potential suitors may have fallen out of the Edward Cabrera race. Houston and Baltimore are no longer trade candidates for the talented right-hander, reports Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald. Jackson adds that Miami doesn’t want to sell short on Cabrera in a deal.
The Marlins’ starting rotation has been a frequent subject of trade rumblings throughout the offseason. Reports emerged in early December that the club was listening to offers on all of its starters, outside of Eury Perez. Sandy Alcantara has been the subject of frequent rumors the past few seasons, while Cabrera and Ryan Weathers have been floated as possible trade chips recently. It would take a massive offer to land Alcantara, notes Jackson.
The Orioles were specifically linked to Cabrera a few weeks back. The club has been connected to almost every high-end name in free agency and on the trade market, from Framber Valdez and Ranger Suarez to Freddy Peralta and MacKenzie Gore. President of baseball operations Mike Elias was able to land a significant rotation upgrade last week, flipping several prospects and a draft pick for right-hander Shane Baz. Elias has said the organization will continue working to strengthen the rotation, though the recent trade might have ended their Cabrera pursuit, given the capital it took to pry Baz from Tampa Bay.
Baltimore and Miami joined forces on a deal at the 2024 trade deadline that worked out for both teams. The Marlins sent lefty Trevor Rogers to the Orioles for outfielder Kyle Stowers and infielder Connor Norby. Rogers broke out as Baltimore’s top starter this past season, while Stowers delivered an All-Star campaign with his new team.
Houston has been in the market for young, controllable starting pitching this offseason. The club’s rotation was destroyed by injuries in 2025, with Ronel Blanco, Hayden Wesneski, and Brandon Walter all needing Tommy John surgery and Luis Garcia going down with another elbow injury. With Valdez hitting free agency, the Astros entered the offseason with Hunter Brown and a slew of unproven options to fill out the staff.
Just like the Orioles, the Astros made a notable move to address their pitching needs last week, acquiring Mike Burrows from the Pirates in a three-team trade headlined by Brandon Lowe. Similar to Baltimore, Houston spent significant prospect capital to land a young starter. Outfielder Jacob Melton and right-hander Anderson Brito went to the Rays in the deal. Melton was among the organization’s top prospects, while Brito was an up-and-coming name, albeit with minimal professional experience. Parting with both Melton and Brito to land Burrows likely affected Houston’s ability to put together a Cabrera package.
After periods of brilliance frequently cut short by injuries, Cabrera finally put together an extended stretch of strong results in 2025. The 27-year-old recorded a 3.53 ERA across a career-high 137 2/3 innings this past season. Cabrera maintained a solid 25.8% strikeout rate while pushing his walk rate into single digits for the first time.
Cabrera went down with an elbow sprain in early September, but returned in the final week of the season for a pair of outings. The brief comeback could’ve been an audition for trade suitors, showing interested teams that Cabrera was good to go for 2026. The righty is under team control through 2028. MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projects Cabrera to earn $3.7MM in arbitration. An acquiring team would have him for three seasons at a reasonable cost.
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🙏 go get ‘im, AJ. I want to see what Niebla can do here!
Miami would have to be in love with Salas or want farther off pitching prospects. Pads definitely don’t have a stockpile of chips any longer.
Cabrera has had an injury riddled career and only 2025 below a 4.00 ERA. He does not have enough value to acquire Salas from the Padres.
Aloha Baseball, Cabrera did have a 3.01 era in 2022, granted he only threw 72 innings. His fip was 4.59 but whip was low at 1.07. Health will be a factor in determining his success into the future. Mahalo
Aloha Bradduh! I would like Cabrera but I don’t think we have enough in the farm system. If anyone can pull off a trade it’s Preller! Hana hou! Mahalo!
How about Alcantara and Cabrera, in return for Merrill and Schoolcraft? 😉
Just kidding!
🤮🤮🤮 T-100
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If I were the marlins gm and I was offered Jackson merril for Alcantara and ECab id hang up the phone. Call them back, and counter Victor Mesa for Fernando Tatis. This is how business works. And im a business mogul
Aloha M-100, I was hoping that was a joke 🤣! I know Gwynning wouldn’t go for it!
Now if Jed could trade Kevin Alcantara who I like straight up for Cabrera, lol! That won’t happen either! Mahalo!
No Dominguez or Jones traded here. Do the right thing Ca$hman, and just hang up the phone for once. Ca$hman Is family. He isn’t going anywhere-Uncle Hal.
Yankees fan be like”Can’t we just sign the Japanese sensation, Imai instead”?
AJ is never afraid of moving unproven hot prospects for major league talent. Go get’em.
Miami has to be alright with guys further off though. That’s the thing. Preller has cleaned out the upper level prospects.
I would love him on the Yankees. What’s the cost, though?
Not as “expensive” as you might think, but you do have to give to get. For the inevitable (not from you, Sal) suggestion… Yes, Jake Cronenworth straight up for Cabrera is an overpay by the Pads. Miami would have to toss in a high prospect. Use as comparison? Cheers 🍻
Wait, what?
Jake Cronenworth is an OVERpay? The Padres would give JC away to anyone who will pay his salary.
Seam
I will bet you ten cents that the Padres will not give Cronenwerth to the Dodgers for nothing in return.
Yeah sorry Gwinning, hate to disagree with you, but Jake’s just not a very good player anymore. Can’t hit a lick.
Not true, Seamer.
108 OPS+
2.4 WAR in ’25
Signed (affordably, all things considered…) thru ’30.
Mucho value-oso, bro bro.
As suggested here and elsewhere, it’s not a logical one-for-one. But I could see our teams line-up one way or another…
You could be onto something since the Marlins are likely looking to bring payroll up. I could see Cabrera for Cronenworth with some sweetener added by the Padres.
Won’t happen, Sid. Not good for either team, and I think most consummated trades are valued as an assumed win/win by both sides in the moment.
Absolutely no value at all. He wouldn’t get you 20% of the way to Cabrera. He’d have to be the third piece coming with a bunch of cash.
Lol dan
Then there’s obviously no deal. Haha and I’m being Homeristic. 👀🤣👀🤙🏽
20% is a silly number. Cabrera has had issues with staying healthy at times, and he isn’t Bob Gibson.
Gwynny, respectfully I have to disagree there. Quite the opposite. It’d have to be Cronenworth + for the Marlins to bite I’d imagine.
I know it sounds crazy to most Sal, and that’s fine by me… but the numbers and team valuations speak for themselves.
Had to check twice! Jake held at, ummmm let’s say a 5.8 score and Cabrera at a 3.2. Honest!
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@Gwynning
I can assure you that the Marlins aren’t giving you Cabrera and other pieces for Cronenworth – not even in a straight 1for1 trade.
I think you got a little Homer in your eye.
I can assure you the same back, Banned! Jake is an overpay for Cabrera on paper, but neither team is doing that trade anyhow. I just wanted to provide context before it was suggested.
Apologies, but a .241 average with minimal pop? No one is giving up a Cabrera let alone Cabrera + for 5(!) more years of that. He’s a very average to mediocre player.
@Gwynning
Was it context? It felt more that you’re trying to convince someone – perhaps yourself – that was a legit trade suggestion.
To add, even if Peter Bendix had a mental lapse for the moments needed to make the trade, first, where would Cronenworth play for us? Second, why would we add another lefty bat when we need righty bats? Third, why add someone without HR power when the Marlins clearly stated they need HR power – not WAR power?
It seems that you didn’t take much time to add these considerations to the context prior to your statement.
The premise would have been proposed by a fellow Padre fan, Banned. I assure you. And nobody is saying this is a viable construct, to or fro! Neither team is doing this, we both know this.
Bro, you high? Or just clueless?
Are you sure that’s an overpay G? Merry cheery festivities and everything!
For Lease Navidad Brewski 🤙🏽
Sorry everyone, and all, no way, we’re not trading Jake. He’s just too reliable and a fixture at 2B. Second-highest OBP on team, 3rd highest OPS among NL 2b, plays elite defense. Team-friendly contract.
No deal
It’s ok Brew, nobody needs convincing here. Haha
But you nailed it.
@Brew 88
The only thing agreed is no deal.
You keep Cronenworth. We keep Cabrera.
Do you think we line-up through some other constructs, Banned? Who would you like to see involved from my Pads if you were to hypothetically move Edward? Being vigilant in agreement to disagree… doesn’t provide much trade context.
@Gwynning
I don’t see anything the Padres have as being a match for the Marlins.
We could use a RH power-bat, but the guys you have would require us trading many pieces along with Cabrera for guys making a fortune on huge contracts (Machado or Tatis). We both know there is no universe where that’s happening. Nothing else in your organization matches our team’s needs enough to give up Cabrera.
Teams often aren’t a match. This is why sometimes people need to temper their thoughts before they make what turns out to be illogical trade suggestion posts when you look at things from both persectives. After all, this is MLB in the real world – not MLB the Show. I feel that many posters make these trade suggestions as though they were playing MLB the Show where you can make trades for your team that makes no sense for the team you’re getting the player you want from.
Fair enough, but i might suggest there are a myriad of ways my Pads *could* attain Cabrera without involving any big names… but let’s just see how this rumor pans out irl! Cheers 🍻
@Gwynning
Among that myriad, they would have to involve the Marlins getting what they need in return. The Marlins need a RH power-bat, that is proven at the MLB level – not a prospect that isn’t established at the MLB level. Besides the Padres’ two highest paid players, they don’t have one of those. Unless the Padres find a third team for a trade that gives the Marlins the RH power-bat that fits them, the Marlins and Padres are not a match.
Just to make sure this is clear, here are the Marlins position players with their batting side in parentheses:
C – Agustin Ramirez (R); Liam Hicks (L); possible Joe Mack (L)
1B – Christopher Morel (R – recently added); Eric Wagaman (R)
2B – Xavier Edwards (S)
SS – Otto Lopez (R)
3B – Connor Norby (R); Graham Pauley (L)
LF – Kyle Stowers (L)
CF – Jakob Marsee (L)
RF – Griffin Conine (L); Heriberto Hernandez (R)
UT – Javier Sanoja (R)
Hopefully this helps with understanding the Marlins side of things.
Completely understood, Banned. You dont need bullpen arms for now? Or prospects for later? Maybe both? Got it dude.
If the marlins said to preller you can have him for cronenworth. Preller would personally drive cronenworth to the airport.
@Gwynning
Um, teams don’t trade SPs like Cabrera for bullpen arms unless it’s a Closer…and even that’s uncommon. And why do so when they just signed Pete Fairbanks?
And why trade for prospects for later when they are trying to win now after this past season?
I think you need to take a look at this past season’s Wild Card standings and the Marlins organizational chart. What you’re insisting and trying to convince people of works in MLB the Show – not in real life.
Beg to differ here, Simm.
All-Star with top-shelf defense. Can comfortably bat anywhere from 2-7. “Underpaid” per $/WAR. 5 years control. 108 OPS+ at the plate. Crone’s value to his team is (strangely…!) consistently undermined. Despite the persistent (by this board and others… not you) hate, he’s not being shipped for 3 years of Cabrera, bar none. Not in a one-for-one for sure, and most probably not in any package.
I’m not insisting or trying to convince anybody of anything, outside of the Marlins aren’t shipping Cabrera for Cronenworth, or vice versa! I think you’re unintentionally misreading my prose. It’s ok. Best of luck in ’26 Marlins!
@Gwynning
I’m not coming from a point of hate. I’m pointing out how Cronenworth is not getting you Cabrera. Cronenworth is valuable to the Padres. He doesn’t carry the value to the Marlins that would get them to give Cabrera for Cornenworth.
Marlins need a righthanded HR power-bat. Cronenworth bats left, and is not a HR power-bat.
Marlins don’t have holes at the positions that they would play him at.
Again, not hate. Just the facts.
“I’m not coming from a point of hate. I’m pointing out how Cronenworth is not getting you Cabrera. Cronenworth is valuable to the Padres. He doesn’t carry the value to the Marlins that would get them to give Cabrera for Cornenworth.
Marlins need a righthanded HR power-bat. Cronenworth bats left, and is not a HR power-bat.
Marlins don’t have holes at the positions that they would play him at.
Again, not hate. Just the facts.”
I 100% agree with this post, Banned. Jake’s value doesn’t translate to the current Marlins build, and we both know this. I also understand we don’t have the big RH thumper you could reasonably obtain. I do suspect you want to strengthen your Pen (yes even after Fairbanks…) but arms can be found elsewhere. Again, we see eye-to-eye on the Cronie for Cabrera sitch. Hahaha
Gwynning-
Cronenworth with his current contract…age, year and dollars is at the very max he could possibly get as a free agent. That’s a fact.
So then you want him to be worth a good pitcher who is making nearly nothing. Even if the marlins had a need at second and needed a left bat they still would never do this trade.
Cronenworth is fine for now but is likely going to decline over the next 5 years. That’s just how age works.
I don’t care what numbers you show me. Cronenworth has somewhere between neg, none or very little trade value.
That’s of course is my opinion and share by most everyone.
Now with that said he isn’t getting traded and he should bat second next year. He allows Tatis to steal more bags. Unlike Merrill who swing at everyone. Bat Merrill 5th.
Concur on the latter portion of your post, for sure! Merrill needs to earn the 2 hole… and he can, but I would feel more comfortable with Jake there if the season started tomorrow! Happy Holidays 🤙🏽
Just imho, as a RS fan, if Cro was a righty, I’d be ‘okay’ with him, but nothing more. He has 5 years and $60M left, and BB usually stops being a profession after the age of 33.
A few players can maintain, but the odds are that only one of those 5 years is a good year.
Deal!
Please try to be serious.
An overpay for cabrera? Oh I needed that laugh when baz just netted 4 prospects and de los Santos looks great in winter ball.
lol gwynning I like you but that’s ridiculous. Crone has 0 surplus value
We all have our seeded and based opinions, and ours just happen to differ here 44. No biggie braddha! 🤙🏽
The only issue I see with this discussion is a two team swap.
I’m waiting for the Preller 5 team trade deal…
lol wait… what?
Marlins want de los Santos to produce at aaa to show hes ready. His numbers dipped following the move there at that level, but its adjusting to better comp and new organization outright.
If baz today is netting you 6,10,11,30 on Baltimore top 30 and the 33rd pick id say cabrera is worth exponentially more than cronenworth on the open market.
Not to say cronenworth doesn’t have value but its nowhere near cabrera even with cabreras concerns from his walk rate, blisters, arm and outright consistency.
While cronenworth is of value he doesn’t necessarily hold it across the league especially worthwhile vs controlled starting pitching.
Not to mention for a stetch cabrera was elite post all star break either.
Gwynning also knows im off my rocker sometimes, but 1a 1b on cabrera cronenworth is absolutely laughable.
He was a 2.8 WAR pitcher last year with three years of cheap control, have to think it would take Lombard.
I could see the ask there, Top, though I’m not sure it’s a deal breaker if the Yankees said nope. Plenty of others that could make a deal work.
Salzilla: The Yankees have decimated their farm of their best prospects in recent years. They probably don’t have the goods to offer.
@Alfred
Decimated or simply graduated?
Decimated? Nah. They have a pretty good farm in stock, Al. Plus the guys on the current roster that came up recently mostly have made a good enough impression on the system as a whole. For Cabrera I think we have more than plenty.
Salzilla: But not nearly as much, especially young pitching, as top systems like the Cubs, Dodgers, and Mets.
Sal- Dominguez or Jones in a package. Hopefully Cabrera stays right where he is my man.
I like Cabrera a lot, and would definitely entertain sending one of those and more for him, 99.
@Sal- Yeah definitely thinking Jones or Dominguez, Warren and another piece for Cabrera. I like Cabby a lot. I just feel like it’s too much. I’m furious that Imai wants to be a Yankee, and the Yankees haven’t shown any interest in him. It’s crazy.
Eh, not sure Id put Warren in there. 2 MLB ready pieces (I think Jones may be ready) and a prospect sounds a bit much. Jasson and 2 prospects sure.
@99
Why would you include Warren in a deal for a SP? The point is to add not simply swamp them out. That trade still leaves you with just Freid, Gil, Cabrera and Schlittler. And besides, Cabrera has a suspicious injury history, is 27 and this is his first year he’s ever pitched over 100 innings topping off at 137 this year. No way is he worth Dominguez and not even Dominguez plus Warren and others. It amazes me how a short of a leash Dominguez is on.
@Knicks- the Yankees having no interest in Imai is shocking. Cabrera being traded in a trade for Will Warren would be great. My preference is to keep Dominguez and Jones. The Yankees still don’t know if Bellinger is coming back. Not pretending Kyle Tucker will be signed. That’s not happening.
Would you trade Dominguez for Mark Vientos, as one of the WFAN talking heads suggested? It might have been Sal Licata.
Al, I heard that one on the Fan, too, and I’m not 100% sure. I think it’s a fair swap, I’m just not sure it’s one that needs to be made.
I think it makes for the Mets anyway. Not sure about the Yankees.
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OK Arthur.
They, the Marlins could have gotten the package that the Orioles send to Tampa. I think that was available for the fish. Also I believe that was a good one longn and shorterm. Hopefully Cabrera will continue success and Marlins can capitalize in a near future with a great trade.
Fr21: How do you know that?
It would take a fair amount more. Cabrera is a far more valuable asset than Baz.
Glad that Miami “does not plan to sell short” on Cabrera in a deal. Because most execs head into negotiations planning to sell an asset for less than they might get. Brilliant.
What am I missing? Why would it take a “massive” offer to nab a pitcher, fresh off of major arm surgery, a 5+ era in his first year back who’s 2 years away from FA and is owed $20 mil?
Who are you talking about?
@seam
Sandy Alcantara
Because Sandy is a good pitcher. Compare Sandy’s top years with Joe Ryan. Compare Sandy’s Aug-Sept with Joe Ryan’s. Alcantara is worth a decent price.
@Joe
“Decent price” is understandable. “Massive offer” isn’t. Comparing Sandy to Ryan makes no sense. Ryan had a great 2025, doesn’t have any alarming injury issues of late and hasn’t had a trade history to determine trade value.
I see some of these articles and commetns and come to the following conclusions:
1 – The posters that respond with discussion about what trades would work for the Marlins, especially the ones for rebuilding, clearly didn’t notice the Marlins season. They are in a different part of the rebuild. Also, why continue to trade away pieces for a rebuild when they just signed Pete Fairbanks? It doesn’t take long to see that the Marlins aren’t in sell mode.
2 – The writers putting together these Marlins articles are just going with the tired old lazy narratives about the Marlins to get clicks and responses. They cover this game, so they know even more so that the Marlins aren’t in sell mode.
If the Marlins are looking to move Edward Cabrera, it would be because they get an insane offer that they absolutely can’t refuse. Or, they aren’t sold that Cabrera’s 2025 is legit, so they want to cash in at his peak value because they expect a regression to his previous years.
Come on guys! Don’t be so foolish about this. It doesn’t take much logic to figure these things out.
@Banned: Bravo. The fundamental problem is that fans are lazy thinkers. There is a group of 8 or 9 teams, including the Marlins, which they assume are ALWAYS rebuilding and ALWAYS eager to trade their best players to “good” teams. They didn’t notice the Marlins’ improvement last season because they don’t really watch baseball. The Marlins have a decent chance, or maybe better than decent, to make the playoffs next year, and very likely will at least be in the mix late.
@Alan53
Exactly on all fronts.
When I see these posters make their comments, I see them as the types that get their news from the podcasters and YouTubers who are fans of the teams they root for, so they get that misinformation reinforced within them – that is after ESPN has spewed it over and over in the few seconds they are forced to mention the Marlins in between their Pop Culture “sports coverage”.
Sheesh! How lazy can a poster be? It only takes a couple of minutes to look up last year’s standings, certain team rosters, and look on this website at the latest transactions to conclude that their suggestions are just plain stupid before they post them.
Many of the posters on what trades would work for the Marlins aren’t actually Marlins fans. They’re just delusional fans trying to formulate a steal for their favorite team, as if the Marlins front office is dumb enough to accept any lowball offer they toss out there.
@Alfred E Neuman
Agreed.
They are either delusional or they spend too much time on MLB the Show to where they think that equates to real life.
Not to be snarky but they don’t have an excellent track record of keeping talent. They ARE perpetually ‘rebuilding’ (pocketing money) and let go a GM the same off-season they made the playoffs. If the Marlins truly believe they’re that close then sign a FA pitcher or make a move for a bat and I’ll be convinced. Until then 3 decent prospects is plenty for a pitcher that walks the whole world and is never healthy, not a kings ransom like Skenes would cost.
OK, time to give some information that you clearly missed on those fronts.
1 – Kim Ng situation: Prior to that 2023 season, we entered the season with full expectation that Kim was going to be fired or not renewed due to poor performance up to that year. Let me know if you need examples of why she was expected to be fired. People were calling for it throughout the fanbase and it escalated into the local media. Was the timing bad after she actually had a good trade deadline and the team made the playoffs? Of course it was bad timing. And she wasn;t actually let go. She opted to leave after Bruce Sherman, based on the Ng’s track record prior to 2023, felt that it was better to hire Bendiz into Jeter’s old role to make sure things were handled better.
2 – With the pocketing money thing, that’s fair, but overly used as narratives when it’s not a state of the team at a moment. Many journalists have gotten lazy to where they don’t do their jobs and research the team at the moment – which only takes a few minutes. And the reality is, that the ones that do, actually still go with the same narrative even when they know it isn’t the case, like now. They just know that most non-Marlins fans are uninformed and will click the articles and post when the “rumor” involves their team getting a plyer from the Marlins instead of talking about what the Marlins are doing to compete this year.
3 – And this ties to your statement about believing when you see them do a signing. And it shows what I’m criticizinf about posters that speak without knowing. FYI – the Marlins signed Pete Fairbanks to be their Closer this year. It seems that you missed that – and it was recent. They have been looking for an upgrade over Eric Wagaman, which they’ve added Christopher Morel so far and are still looking. While I can understand not being convinced with Morel’s signing, I’m curious why the Fairbanks signing doesn’t have you convinced. Or did you not know about that when you made your statement? No matter what, see how your statement coming after the Fairbanks signing supports my criticism of fans who comment about the Marlins when they don’t know? But feel free to say that adding a legit Closer (one of the team’s main needs) doesn’t prove anything.
4 – If Baz can get what he got in return, the Marlins can get more than that for Cabrera.
Did I miss covering anything? Do you need more info about the team you clearly don’t follow that I do?
1-Assuming the reports are correct, the story that Ng turned down an interview to be the RS GM, is insane.
2-There are some people that think the entire league can be over .500, if only they spend their person wealth.
3-Many fans don’t understand directionality. Once you signed Fairbanks, once the Pirates traded for Lowe, etc., these teams were moving in.
4-You can’t tell about prospects, but when I saw the Baz haul, I was sorry the RS didn’t make a move. A #30, #37, a future maybe #40, and a legit lottery ticket? I’d have made that trade and tried to figure where all the pieces fit later.
While I do feel more informed on the Marlins now it doesn’t change the narrative. Small market teams sign 1 year deals to good players and/or bounce back candidates all the time because they can flip them at the trade deadline and if not then there’s no such thing as a bad 1 year deal anyways. I was thinking more Zac Gallen-ish or really anybody on a multi-year. I’m not expecting Dodgers spending but the Marlins haven’t done anything to change the public perception and ergo the mainstream pundits constantly trying to trade away Miami’s best players to more competitive teams. The Baz return also seemed more quantity over quality but still a slight overpay and likely because it was in inter-divisional trade. I lived in Florida most of my life and don’t know as much about the Rays and Marlins as you probably do but I want to see risks being taken. Big market money allows you to make more of those mistakes. But the Rays and Marlins don’t make ANY mistakes. You only avoid mistakes by remaining stagnant. Maybe you could explain why Miami didn’t add to a core that included Realmutto, Ozuna, Yelich, and Stanton.
In 2025 the Marlins pythagorean W-L was 72-90. Their wins based on WAR was 70. They have not added much if anything to that total. They are not on the doorstep of a playoff berth in 2026. If they are considering trading their best starting pitcher in 2025 they are continuing their perpetual rebuild.
Eury Perez returned from TJ Surgery on June 9th. From that date on, a period of 99 games, the Marlins scored 453 runs and allowed 458 runs. So their pythagorean W-L in the last 99 games was 49-50. What is more predictive of their future success? The first 63 games which featured a number of poor performing pitchers who are no longer even on the team? Or the more recent, larger sample that is more representative of the current roster?
Add to that the expectation that Sandy and Eury will perform better the further they get from TJ Surgery, the fact that they will have a full season of Jakob Marsee, and the fact that one of the youngest rosters in the league will have an additional year of experience. It is not hard to imagine that the Marlins will have a decent shot at making the playoffs in 2026.
The entire season is most predictive. The Marlins wins based on WAR for the season was 70.
I will repeat it since you don’t seem to get the main point. If the Marlins are considering trading the player that was their best starting pitcher and who has 3 years of team control then the Marlins are continuing their perpetual rebuild.
They are not a contending team in 2026 without some major additions to the team.
“The entire season is most predictive.” A very similar thing to what I am arguing happened in the prior season. In 2024, like in 2023 and 2022, the Marlins finished with the fewest runs scored in the NL. They were 2nd to last in the NL in 2021.
However, if you looked closer, you would see that in the 2nd half of 2024 the offensive unit (which was composed of a lot of guys who did not see much action in the 1st half) ended up 7th in the NL in runs scored. If you thought like you do that the full season stats are more predictive, then you would assume that the Marlins would once again finish last or next to last like they had done each of the prior 4 seasons. And yet they got up to 9th, closer to middle of the pack than last. And that was with no major additions going into 2025.
As far as trading Edward Cabrera, all of that smoke is coming from outside of the organization. They will only move him for an overpay.
That sound you are hearing is the point going over your head.
The Marlins position is that if the other team decides to give an overwhelming package for Cabrera that will make the Marlins better next season and beyond, they are willing to move him. No one is going to give them that package, so he won’t get moved. Despite their hardline stance, you will say “they were WILLING to move a major piece, so they aren’t serious about competing next year.” It is a tired and pathetic narrative.
Get it done A’s. Henry Bolte, Brett Harris , Joey Estes, and Zane Yalor for Cabrera should get it done.
Yeah, it does work in MLB the Show. In real life, not for a team trying to follow up with their progress this year with a playoff attempt.
fjmendez: They would have to give up players of the Marlins’ choosing to make a deal work, maybe Gelof or Langeliers. Not just guys you want to trade because they’re expendable.
A fair trade should be a compromise that causes a little pain for each team.
Not always. It’s fair to give the Marlins top prospects for three years. Doesn’t help the A’s to give up their only reliable catcher. Now Gelof, there I agree with you. He is definitely tradable with DeVries likely to come up soon.
I was just using Langeliers as an example. I’m just saying that each team needs to receive players it chooses from the other, not just guys the other team wants to trade.
Ryan Weathers has thrown 150inn in the last 3 years combined.. with middling results.
That’s not a “trade chip”.
This Charlie wright is a total tool bag
CJCue: Wright is both the tool and the bag. When he wrote about the Rays signing Steven Matz, it was clear that he didn’t even know that Matz finished last season with the Red Sox.
I could see some way where the Marlins are the 3rd team in the “big trade” with the Mets and Padres.
Something where padres get Cabrera, with Marlins getting some mid prospect from the padres and some high prospects from the Mets.
I think there’s some potential for Preller to find that deal.
Who says no
A’s get Cabrera
Marlins get Colby Thomas, Tommy white and Henry Baez
“Houston has been in the market for young, controllable starting pitching this offseason”
Same, says all other 29 clubs.
I hope the Braves are in the mix but I know the price tag will be insane. It always is. They aren’t even reasonable insane, they always as for truly psychopathic like returns whenever dealing with the Braves unless it’s a couple of no names
If only they could at least be insanely reasonable
Houston pulling out was obvious because they have no trade capital. The Orioles still have plenty. I think the Marlins are overvaluing Cabrera because they are a marginal playoff contender with him.