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Yankees Do Not Intend To Claim Kuroda

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | August 25, 2010 at 2:33pm CDT

Yankees GM Brian Cashman says the Yankees don’t intend to claim Dodgers starter Hiroki Kuroda, according to Wallace Matthews of ESPNNewYork.com. In fact, the Yankees maintain that they are content to stand pat.

“Right now I'm not interested in adding anyone," Cashman said. "I like the team we have and I think we have what it takes to get the job done."

Kuroda hit waivers yesterday, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports, but Cashman says he isn’t hoping to find a pitcher through a waiver claim or trade.

"I haven't thought about [Kuroda]. I don't even know if he's on waivers yet," Cashman said. "Besides, I'd be hard-pressed to find a pitcher on the waiver wire who can pitch better for us than Dustin Moseley has."

The Yankees and Rays are tied for first place in the AL East with identical 78-48 records. At this point, the Red Sox, who claimed Johnny Damon on waivers, appear to have been the most active of the three division rivals.

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  1. ugotrpk3113

    15 years ago

    Dustin Moseley…? Sure, he’s been pretty good… but really? I’d be hard pressed to think they actually believe Kuroda wouldn’t help them immediately.

    Reply
    • Yanks48

      15 years ago

      maybe, maybe not. he could get lit up in the al east

      Reply
      • dieharddodgerfan

        15 years ago

        Kuroda pitching with the Yankees offense could literally be the difference maker for the Yanks b/w winning the AL East or ending up the Wild Card.

        The Rays’ starting pitching is MUCH better than the Yanks and the Yanks could definitely use an upgrade in starting pitching.

        Personally, I think Cashman is playing down the Yanks’ interest on Kuroda to try and increase the chances he gets to them on the waiver wire.

        Its the obviously logical thing to do.

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        • wtk

          15 years ago

          Smoke and mirrors. You got it.
          -wtk

          Reply
  2. SalvadorM

    15 years ago

    kuroda to the Padres

    Reply
    • GasLampGuru

      15 years ago

      I was thinking the exact same thing. This makes sense for the Padres on several levels. First of all, Kuroda would provide a veteran arm to take some pressure off the kids. Second, it would allow the Padres to move Correia to the pen. It would also allow them to refrain from converting Tim Stauffer from reliever to starter in an effort to give Latos and Richard an occasional rest.

      Reply
  3. Moebarguy

    15 years ago

    Cashman is using an age-old tactic — “reverse psychology.”

    Reply
    • scatterbrian

      15 years ago

      I thought Michael Scott invented that….

      Reply
      • moonraker45

        15 years ago

        thats what she said.

        Reply
  4. fitz

    15 years ago

    Not getting to the AL

    Reply
  5. BaseballFanatic0707

    15 years ago

    Hey, Cashman. I found a pitcher than can pitch better for the Yankees than Dustin Moseley.

    His name is Hiroki Kuroda.

    Reply
  6. ieatpilgrims

    15 years ago

    Not a chance Kuroda slips to the AL, let alone all the way to the Yankees. Plenty of contending teams would love to add Kuroda for the playoff push.

    Reply
  7. dieharddodgerfan

    15 years ago

    Dodgers have also put Podsednik, Blake and Gibbons on waivers.

    Interesting that Lilly and Theriot have not been placed on waivers.

    Could it be that Lilly’s 4-0 record with a 1.29 ERA for the Dodgers has convinced Ned that we will offer arb and/or try and re-sign him? I could see it.

    In the case of Theriot, I assume he’s not been placed on waivers because, frankly, the Dodgers don’t have many options for 2B next year and he will figure to be the Dodgers’ 2B next year.

    Reply
  8. moonraker45

    15 years ago

    Theres Zero chance he gets through the NL, so really why is Cashman even bothering the fake out?

    Reply
  9. Guest

    15 years ago

    Nova and Moseley are perfect back end guys. Both have the ability to locate and both pitch to contact. I don’t know much about Kuroda, but my general feeling is that he would be a step down for the Yanks at this point. We’ll probably see Pettitte back in action around mid September and I’d guess they pass over Javy twice in the rotation in order to build up a little strength. Yanks are fine, for the moment, for the post season run. Two weeks from now when rosters expand and both Berkman and Arod are back, the Yanks are going to be fielding their best line-ups since April/May.

    Reply
    • Zack23

      15 years ago

      Mosely has a FIP in the 6s, he’s not a good pitcher. Saying Kuroda is a step down is an absolute joke.

      Reply
      • Zack23

        15 years ago

        It was in the 6s before last nigth*

        Reply
  10. Guest

    15 years ago

    In fact, I’d offer Moseley a contract for next year. I’m that impressed with him right now. Something like the Mitre/Gaudin type of deal.

    Reply
    • Dave4G4e

      15 years ago

      I agree, he doesn’t look like he gets rattled too easily and has been solid. It’ll be interesting to see how teams do against him the 2nd or 3rd go around once they’ve had a chance to get used to his stuff but I have been impressed so far as well. Nobody is saying he’s an Ace but I’ll have him pitching in the back end of the rotation any day.

      Reply
    • Big Davey

      15 years ago

      No.

      Reply
  11. NYY92

    15 years ago

    please dont do that cashman if our trying to fake out people to get this guy.he has pitched ok in the NL,in the AL nevermind the AL East he would get inialated,thanks anyways.
    and to the person that was so sure the yanks starting pitching couldint keep up with the Rays i beg to differ

    Reply
    • myname_989

      15 years ago

      The Rays pitching has just been all around better than the Yankees. Lower ERA, more saves, more complete games, more shutouts, more innings pitched, more quality starts, fewer runs and earned runs, fewer walks, more strikeouts, and a lower batting average against.

      Yeah, you can beg to differ, but it doesn’t mean much.

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      • BaseballFanatic0707

        15 years ago

        It can keep up, but keep up is not the equivalent of being equal to. It’s quite obvious that the Rays pitching is better.

        But it’s not unbeatable. Keep in mind that it is in very large part thanks to Andy Pettitte’s injury that the Yankees have slipped enough for the Rays to tie up.

        Reply
        • Zack23

          15 years ago

          Price and Garza are good yes. Shields is giving up tons of HRs this year, Niemann just got hammered after being on the DL with shoulder issue, Davis also was on the DL with shoulder issue, and Hellboy is getting moved to the bullpen.

          They both have 2 good starters, then question marks in 3/4/5

          Reply
          • East Coast Bias

            15 years ago

            Hellboy is the truth! Scary when he starts (with Price) for a full season next year or the year after that.

            Reply
          • BaseballFanatic0707

            15 years ago

            I find it very surprising that they’re still unwilling to let Jeremy start.

            Especially since he is much better than Wade Davis.

            Reply
    • BrocNessMonster

      15 years ago

      I love this post… NYY92 begs to differ. He can’t, like, tell you why or anything… he just begs to differ.

      Reply
      • East Coast Bias

        15 years ago

        hahaa and I love this post!

        Reply
    • BrocNessMonster

      15 years ago

      Oh… and your differing was just *annihilated* by myname_989.
      Bahahha, sorry, I had to…

      Reply
      • NYY92

        15 years ago

        haha your a funny guy,laughing at your own jokes is always fun.
        i just think if sabathia gets lined up with price,sabathia wins.garza gets burnett more than likely unless burnett is on his good game.hughes would toggle garza and pettite would get niemien or however you spell it.and Nova after keeping the AL’s top offense in check could stick with Davis

        Reply
        • East Coast Bias

          15 years ago

          “garza gets burnett more than likely unless burnett is on his good game.hughes would toggle garza…”

          so Hughes and AJ both get garza? That’s unfair.. It’s obviously way harder to hit when there are two pitchers throwing at you!

          PS: Please, for the love of God, start putting spaces between your sentences.

          Reply
          • moonraker45

            15 years ago

            haaaaaaaaaaaaha

            Reply
        • BaseballFanatic0707

          15 years ago

          …..

          The Blue Jays are not the top offense in the AL. They hit the most HRs, but they are behind some teams.

          The Yankees are in 1st in terms of .wOBA, a measly .001 point ahead of Boston. The Blue Jays check in at 7th, which is still very good. But a closer look at their offensive splits next to ISO shows that they aren’t exactly going to string together a bunch of hits. They’re a team that either mashes out a bunch of homers, or gets shut out.

          Garza is more proven than Hughes at this point. Hughes still has trouble finishing hitters off. He really needs to stop listening to Girardi and throw his cutter more again.

          Reply
  12. Slopeboy

    15 years ago

    Kuroda is a marginal NL pitcher. Not a good idea to bring him to the AL east in a pennant race

    Reply
    • Muggi

      15 years ago

      I question your use of the word “marginal”. He’s been well above average for a few years now.

      Reply
      • Slopeboy

        15 years ago

        He’s a sub .500 pitcher with a lifetime ERA of 4.72. Where has he been above average and when?

        Reply
        • dire straits

          15 years ago

          Is a W-L record indicative of how well a pitcher has performed? Lifetime ERA?

          Reply
          • Slopeboy

            15 years ago

            I think so. Most owners and GMs believe so as well. Players and agents use FIP, WAR and WHIPs only when the they can’t use the other stats to make a case for their side. Kuroda has one winning season in three years, and that was one game over .500 as a starter. I do stand corrected as far as his lifetime ERA- its 3.66, the 4.72 is his winning PCT.

            Reply
            • Muggi

              15 years ago

              eh…if you think W-L is a good way to indicate a pitcher’s quality, there’s no point in continuing the conversation. His ERA, FIP, WHIP, WAR, and K/BB are all well above league-average.

              If you think those things are less important than W-L well…be very glad you’re not your preferred team’s GM.

              Reply
              • Slopeboy

                15 years ago

                You’re correct about the conversation. I can see it leading into an apples and cantalopes debate.In closing I will say that if I’m a GM and I have an above average pitcher on my team, I don’t put him on waivers.

                Reply
            • moonraker45

              15 years ago

              and the award for dumbest post goes to…. (drum roll please)

              Reply
    • BrocNessMonster

      15 years ago

      An ERA+ of 110 this year, and for Kuroda’s career. I’m curious as to what you’re definition of marginal is too. To me, Dustin Moseley’s ERA+ of 89 this year and 85 for his career mean he’s marginal, in my opinion.

      Reply
      • Slopeboy

        15 years ago

        My definition of marginal pitcher is one of a pitcher who has a losing lifetime record with a decent team in a weak division. A lifetime ERA of 4.72, gives up just about a hit per inning and gets put on waivers from a team that believes its still in a pennant race. Moseley is marginal also, but is lucky to be at the right place at the right time.

        Reply
      • alxn

        15 years ago

        I think you’re being way too kind to Dustin Moseley

        Reply
  13. TeamCropDusters

    15 years ago

    Playing time wise that is the best move for Brad…

    Reply
  14. Henry Castellanos

    15 years ago

    Andy better heal, if we still had him he AL East lead would have been at least around 2 or 3

    Reply
  15. legacyme3

    15 years ago

    Knowing the Red Sox, they’ll attempt to claim Kuroda if he even gets to the AL. And then they’ll say it was a move to block the Yankees and Rays. Hell, I would love Kuroda, slide himm in as our number 5 guy, Buch, Lester, Beckett, Dice K, Kuroda. Ship Lackey the hell away.

    Reply
    • East Coast Bias

      15 years ago

      I could be wrong, but once you use your waiver claim, I think you drop to the bottom and other teams go higher on the list than you on future claims. So, I think by claiming Damon, they won’t beat out the Yanks or Rays for a future claim.

      Reply
    • LifeLongYankeeFan

      15 years ago

      If your looking to get rid off Lackey how about a straight up trade. You guys give us Lackey and we’ll give you AJ Burnett. We’ll give you an overpaid overrated pitcher and you can give us an overpaid overrated pitcher lol.

      Reply
  16. Barrettman84

    15 years ago

    Yankees Playoff Rotation:

    – CC
    – Andy
    – Burnett
    – Hughes

    Reply

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