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Odds & Ends: Hawpe, Kuroda, Angels, Antonetti

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | August 24, 2010 at 8:09pm CDT

Some more links for Tuesday night, including the latest waiver wire news…

  • Brad Hawpe is one step closer to signing with another team now that he has cleared waivers, according to Troy Renck of the Denver Post (on Twitter).
  • The Dodgers put Hiroki Kuroda on waivers, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter). Kuroda hits free agency after the season, but the Dodgers don't necessarily want to move him. A rival executive guaranteed Rosenthal that the Yankees will be "all over" Kuroda if he reaches them on waivers.
  • Rosenthal reports that the Angels placed Brian Fuentes, Juan Rivera, Mike Napoli and Bobby Abreu on waivers (Twitter link). The Angels are presumably curious about the interest their players draw, even if they don't intend on making a trade.
  • White Sox GM Kenny Williams told reporters including Paul M. Banks of TheSportsBank that he has to "speak in generalities” about waiver claims. Rosenthal reported earlier today that the White Sox will claim Manny Ramirez if he reaches them on waivers.
  • Indians assistant GM Chris Antonetti is taking on more responsibility as he prepares to replace current GM Mark Shapiro after the season, as MLB.com's Anthony Castrovince explains.
  • Tigers GM Dave Dombrowski told MLB.com's Jason Beck that the Tigers and Red Sox never agreed on a deal involving Johnny Damon (Twitter link). Damon, who has the final say, said today that he intends to stay in Detroit, even though the Red Sox claimed him on waivers.
  • Reds president and CEO Bob Castellini told John Fay of the Cincinnati Enquirer that he expects the club to agree to an extension with manager Dusty Baker (Twitter link). The Reds offered Baker a deal last week.
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  1. TeamCropDusters

    13 years ago

    Wouldn’t mind seeing Kuroda come to the Rangers.. He could help us out down the stretch run and he is a FA if it doesn’t work out….

    Reply
  2. Zebradune

    13 years ago

    Yankees? Rangers? There is absolutely no chance Kuroda makes it out of the NL.

    Reply
    • TeamCropDusters

      13 years ago

      Most of the NL teams that are in contention don’t NEED him, but he could help out any staff.

      The Braves don’t (Hudson,Hanson, Lowe, Jurjenns, Minor) the Phillies don’t (Halladay, Hammels, Oswalt, Blanton, Kendrick) the Cardinals don’t (Wainwright, Carpenter, Garcia, Westbrook, Lohse) the Giants don’t (Lincecum, Cain, Sanchez, Zito, Bumgarner) and the Padres don’t (Latos, Garland, Richards, Leblanc, Correia).

      The Reds are the only team that really need him. (After Arroyo, Cueto, and Volquez…they are thin with Leake, Wood, and Bailey).

      He could make it out of the NL, but who knows what will happen.

      Reply
      • lakersdodgersyankees4life

        13 years ago

        Id take Kuroda over Blanton, Kendrick, Westbrook, Lohse, Correia, among others. Just because teams have 5 starters doesnt mean they would be better than Kuroda

        Reply
        • TeamCropDusters

          13 years ago

          I never said they were better. I said that there rotations were set.

          All those pitchers you have mentioned, with the exception of Kendrick, are making too much money to not be in the rotation…

          Reply
          • lakersdodgersyankees4life

            13 years ago

            When you are going for the World Series, you don’t give a crap how much money they make. Is the couple million for Kuroda’s 3.48 ERA worth it to every team you listed, yes.

            And I’m sorry, when you have two guys with ERAs near or over 5, your rotation isn’t set

            Reply
            • TeamCropDusters

              13 years ago

              I understand what you are saying, and I thought about that as well…but the Phillies have already taken on a ton of slary this season. I just don’t see them taking on anymore.

              The Cardinals really can’t afford to take on any more salary, the Braves really don’t need him, and the Padres are notoriously stingy when it comes to salary.

              We will see in the next few days. If any NL team claims him it will more than likely be the Reds.

              Reply
              • lakersdodgersyankees4life

                13 years ago

                I guess what I’m saying is when you’re in the position of the Cards or Phillies, you find a way to either come up with salary space or give up more to get some eaten(I know, sounds crazy with the Dodgers). Like you said, we’ll see.

                Reply
              • TeamCropDusters

                13 years ago

                If you are Ruben Amaro or John Mozeliak and you have to sell it to your owners that adding Kuroda is the missing piece that can get you to the WS, after you have already added salary this season, are you willing to risk your reputation that Kuroda is that piece.

                Those are two franchises where adding that player would only be acceptable if it guaranteed you being in the WS.

                Jed Hoyer, John Daniels, and Walt Jocketty aren’t under the same pressure to win now, with their owners, that Amaro and Mozeliak are.

                Reply
            • markjsunz

              13 years ago

              The dodgers are all over the place they traded some minor league talent for Ted lilly who I think is being paid by the cubs making it a sale for the minor leagers. Now they want to dump Manny and Kuroda. They would be smart getting rid of Kemp, he is a train wreak in the making. Poor baby was called out first by Colletti, then the no non sense Larry Bowa. All kemp has done was sulk all year as if the effort to play baseball was a great burden placed on him.Of course with Rhinna she is using all his energy up. Put him on waivers and see what you can get for the troubled malcontent.

              Reply
              • lakersdodgersyankees4life

                13 years ago

                Ill answer your first part of the post, but the latter is pure lunacy that you are obviously convinced on so I’m not even gonna try.

                They got Lilly for two reasons, IMO. One was to try to get back in the race(they got hit with injuries of Furcal and Martin and then Manny didn’t come back as early as expected). The other reason was to try to make an impression for free agency. He is a local boy so they show him what’s it like playing for the home crowd hoping to maybe get a discount in FA. The plan didn’t work, so now they are seeing if they can get anything for the vets that are gonna be free agents

                Reply
      • myname_989

        13 years ago

        Just because a team has 5 starters, doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t be in the market for a starting pitcher. The Phillies could definitely use Hiroki Kuroda. They’re so desperate for SP depth that they just signed Nate Robertson to a minor league deal. Kyle Kendrick has been one of the most inconsistent pitchers in baseball, and really shouldn’t be pitching above AAA. Thing is, Phillies don’t have any other options. No way Kuroda gets past the Phillies, let alone, moves on to the AL.

        Reply
      • BaseballFanatic0707

        13 years ago

        The Padres could have a very big use for him, considering how Latos will be pushing his innings limit and it looks like they will be playing October baseball.

        Reply
        • TeamCropDusters

          13 years ago

          Maybe, but Jeff Moorad isn’t exactly Geirge Steinbrenner. He would be used to replace Correia more than to keep Latos innings down.

          The Padres also have Tim Stauffer who could start, and Aaron Poreda, among others, that are ready to pitch in the big leagues.

          I really like Poreda and think that the White Sox gave up WAY to much in Poreda and Richards for Jake Peavey.

          That was a face palm trade…they traded two hard throwing LHP prospects for a guy with a history in injury problems…

          Reply
          • BaseballFanatic0707

            13 years ago

            Oh, they definitely gave up too much for Peavy.

            Even if Correia is replaced, the Padres would still be better served with Kuroda. But, if they have in-house options, use them.

            Reply
  3. Jonathan Gallo

    13 years ago

    Love Kuroda’s xFIP. As a Yankee fan/fantasy owner of Kuroda I hope he makes it to the Yanks.

    Reply
    • fitz

      13 years ago

      As a baseball fan I don’t and I’m glad he won’t.

      Reply
      • lakersdodgersyankees4life

        13 years ago

        “As a baseball fan”

        that is supposed to say ‘As an angry Boston fan’

        Reply
        • fitz

          13 years ago

          Ok bandwagon for life.

          Reply
          • lakersdodgersyankees4life

            13 years ago

            I don’t know, seems like more than a couple people agree with me.

            Call me a bandwagon fan all you want, whatever. At least I don’t hate whole cities…

            Reply
            • fitz

              13 years ago

              Yeah because if you hate one and they win the championship how are you going to root for them the next year?

              Reply
              • lakersdodgersyankees4life

                13 years ago

                If that was the case, why would I root for the Dodgers, who haven’t won a World Series in 22 years? Shouldn’t I be a Phillies fan, a Yankee fan, a Boston fan, etc? Hell shouldn’t I be a Boston Celtic and Laker fan? Yea, great argument…

                Reply
              • lakersdodgersyankees4life

                13 years ago

                and it is different to not like a team, and to not like a CITY

                Reply
          • 5_tool_MiLB_fool

            13 years ago

            hahaha

            Reply
  4. TeamCropDusters

    13 years ago

    The Indians have an extremely solid core in Choo, Santana, Cabrera, Carmona, Masterson, and Chris Perez.

    If Sizemore can get healthy, stay that way, and start hitting like he is capable, the rebuiling process will be faster than many think.

    Reply
    • TeamCropDusters

      13 years ago

      Laporta is also promising and they have Chisenhall, White, Hagadone, and Carrasco all in the minors, who sould turn out to be impact players.

      Reply
      • Dylan

        13 years ago

        Carrasco stinks.

        Reply
        • TeamCropDusters

          13 years ago

          He has a 3.77 ERA in AAA, and he is only 23. Most players his age are still in AA. I definately don’t think he stinks. He will only get better unless injuries hamper him. He will be a #3 starter in MLB, and that is an impact player.

          Reply
    • moonraker45

      13 years ago

      No offense to you, especially if you are an indians fan.. but that really doesn’t resemble an ‘extremely solid core’ as you put it. Indians still lack consistent impact players, I think Santana could turn in to one and choo is already one, but carmona? Masterson? hardly a formidable 1-2, indians do have some good prospects, chisenhall, knapp… but I think they lack the timing and depth to make them successful.. the rotation just isn’t anything to brag about.

      Reply
  5. Henry Castellanos

    13 years ago

    At first I was like “no” to Kuroda to the Yanks, but if he’s able to pitch well and help us down the strech I would be more than happy.

    Reply
  6. Brian Culpin

    13 years ago

    Sorry, there’s no chance Kuroda makes it to the Yankees….or any SP/RP of value for that matter…I would be surprised if the Yankees are able to improve any part of their roster this month since they have the same needs as the Rays & BoSox.

    Reply
  7. TeamCropDusters

    13 years ago

    The Reds are going to have to offer him more than a one year extension to retain him. That was an insulting offer considering where he has them in the standings, despite that pitching staff put together by Jocketty.

    Reply
    • Zebradune

      13 years ago

      Baker has nothing to do with where the Reds are in the standings.

      Reply
      • TeamCropDusters

        13 years ago

        Ok…I guess managers have no bearing on their teams sucess (I guess only their failures)…

        Reply
        • BaseballFanatic0707

          13 years ago

          Keep in mind this is Dusty Baker we’re discussing-the killer of young arms in human form.

          Though, to his credit this year, he has listened to management and moved Leake to the pen early to protect that arm, and hasn’t he not batted aging veteran players over the better young talent as well? (That’s not rhetorical).

          Reply
  8. TeamCropDusters

    13 years ago

    I wonder who Hawpe winds up with…my Rangers don;t make much sense.

    Reply
  9. start_wearing_purple

    13 years ago

    Unless Hawpe has already been talking to a team I gotta wonder if the Red Sox will take a run at him after Damon said no. I think Theo took a run at him once and Theo tends to get fixated on certain players.

    Reply
    • Brian Culpin

      13 years ago

      “tends to get fixated” is an understatement. I love the Sox, and Theo, but the guy has the biggest man crushes. I do remember him lusting over Hawpe at one point but I think (hope) even he realizes that Hawpe isn’t the same player he once was

      Reply
      • BentoBox

        13 years ago

        The Lugo one was ugly.

        Reply
      • TeamCropDusters

        13 years ago

        JD Drew comes to mind. Sure he puts up a solid OPS, but is it worth $14 m a season….when he only plays a 100 games.

        Reply
        • start_wearing_purple

          13 years ago

          According to fangraphs Drew has been worth $57M already, that’s even including the horrendous first year where he hit that huge grand slam against Carmona in the ALCS. Considering the Sox have paid him $56M by the end of this year, I’d say Drew has been a solid investment despite not being able to play 162 games a year.

          While Drew’s bat and health have always been hit or miss, his fielding has consistently been one of the top in the league. Personally I think Drew was a good move, especially when you consider the alternatives that year.

          Reply
          • TeamCropDusters

            13 years ago

            They still have 2 years left at 14 mil…his OPS is down 200 points and he hasn’t been solid this season defensively, the Texas series comes to mind where he made 3 crucial errors.

            While some would argue that he hasn’t been overpayed monetarily (as of yet), I say that they definately overpaid on the amount of years.

            Reply
          • BaseballFanatic0707

            13 years ago

            The issue is is that people have this demand for players to outperform contracts, or else it’s an overpay.

            J.D. Drew, at this point, has produced to his contract. This is an anomaly that people cannot accept.

            Reply
  10. SalvadorM

    13 years ago

    kuroda to the Padres.

    Reply
  11. randy g

    13 years ago

    I wouldnt mind the Braves claiming Rivera if he is there. RH LF who has pop. yea he only has 12hrs this year but he hit 25 last year. he is signed for next year for 5.5 which i dont think is to crazy either. We need all the offense we can get.

    Reply
    • kdub53

      13 years ago

      it could happen…although he would have to get through the AL first though right? I like the guy…heard he is supposedly having problems seeing though…
      One of the raido announcers was talking about it a few weeks back..when he missed a pop up…

      Reply
  12. kdub53

    13 years ago

    wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy to many one sided views in this…have the comments are between 2 or three people…
    this is getting lame..
    take baseball…make your point but dont bitch and moan towards each other for 30 damn posts in a row…jeeze guys

    Reply
  13. penpaper

    13 years ago

    I wouldn’t mind seeing Fuentes and Rivera get moved. Napoli is expendable depending on if Conger gets called up at some point next season, Wilson and Mathis are good enough for the time being. I would hate to lose Abreu though. I really like his veteran presence.

    Reply
  14. dodgerskingsfan

    13 years ago

    like it said, the dodgers just put him out there to see what value he has. i dont think he will get moved though.

    Reply

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