The Yankees "will continue to push to make a deal" for Dodgers lefty Ted Lilly, according to Mark Feinsand, Bill Madden, Anthony McCarron, and Roger Rubin of the New York Daily News. Furthermore, the writers say the Yankees "believe there is a loophole that because they were awarded the claim before the first of the month, they could use Lilly on their postseason roster."
Joe Pawlikowski of River Ave. Blues can't find evidence of this loophole, nor could ESPN's Keith Law or a big league executive with which Law spoke. Aside from postseason eligibility, is it plausible for the Yankees to acquire Lilly for the rest of the regular season? Can the Dodgers place Lilly on waivers again, even after pulling him back the first time the Yankees won the claim?
According to The Biz of Baseball, "Once a player on major league waivers has been claimed and the waiver request revoked, any subsequent request for major league waivers during the same waiver period is irrevocable." In other words, if the Dodgers put Lilly on waivers again they cannot pull him back if he's claimed. If the Dodgers had purely financial motives, they could hope the Yankees or another team claims Lilly, allowing the Dodgers to save over $2MM and also keep the $2.5MM sent by the Cubs. Such a transfer would be one of the bigger September transactions in recent memory. Still, it's possible the Dodgers simply have no intention of moving Lilly, as ESPN's Wallace Matthews suggests. ESPN's Buster Olney tweets that the Yankees' original claim of Lilly "never had any traction."
The Dodgers are going to want a good prospect considering they hold all the cards, so watch out! I doubt anything will happen though.
Ted Lilly is a free agent after the season and they are going to get a good prospect with one month left in the season? I can’t imagine they’d get anything more than at best, a 20-30 prospect.
normally i would agree with you but given they yankees willingness to deal Austin Jackson for an older version of himself and jesus montero for cliff lee (though that was an exception) and Zach Mcallister being traded as a player to be named later, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Dodgers try to steal someone from a team that needs some help and sees prospects as expendable. Will the Yankees give up anyone good? probably not, but you never know and given their track record i’m a little worried.
If the Dodgers offer arbitration, they either get Lilly back, or they get TWO top draft picks- one supplemental first round pick and one first or second round pick.
Once again the Yankees whining about how no one in the world can do them no wrongdoing!
Whahuh? Whining where?
After the past two nights with Moseley and Hughes on the mound, they gave Cahill and Mazzaro an 8 spot to their credit, so obviously they could use another pitcher, especally Lilly, but what im saying, the offense will continue to win games for the team. I’m just not sure if Lilly will succeed in NY because it didn’t work the first time. Unfortunatley, Over the past two nights, I’ve been a very unhapy A’s fan at Yankee Stadium, hopefully tonight I will be a lot happier when I leave the ballpark tonight.
“I’m just not sure if Lilly will succeed in NY because it didn’t work the first time.”
Maybe a little unfair considering he was at the very beginning of his career. Also, he did sport a 3.55 ERA, 1.06 WHIP, 2.89 BB/9, 6.98 K/9 (53 K’s total), and 4 Wins in 68.1 IP (11 starts) as a starting pitcher for the Yankees in 2002.
Some players have trouble playing in NY, I didn’t mean it the way you percieved it, but I’m just saying, I’m not sure if NY is a fit.
I agree in principle, but Lilly did have some success with the Yanks, so there’s some reason to believe he could have even more success given that he’s a seasoned pitcher now.
Lily did not do that bad when he was a Yankee. The facts are he never wanted to leave and wanted to come back in 2007 as a FA.
He is a better option that AJ or even Javy.
if he gets tradded to ny he would suck. new yankee stadium is more hitter friendly than before.
He might fare better than how Moseley, Hughes, Burnett, and Vazquez have been doing. The Yankees rotation situation will be in even greater dire straights if Pettitte can’t get a clean bill of health.
yeah definitely Burnett and possibly Vasquez but Moseley has been better than they hoped and Hughes has been solid for most of the year, he’s really only had one bad start (last night he went 5 and gave up 2 runs so he did get the job done, regardless of his struggles)
The New York Yankees do not rely on pitchers like Dustin Moseley. Hughes has been superb overall this season, and will be a Yankee for a long-time, but he’s showed signs of slowing down–which is pretty standard for a young pitcher in the last months of the seasons. Regardless, adding a dependable pitcher for the rest of the season and playoffs is exactly what the Yankees need, and wanted to achieve in the failed Cliff Lee deal.
I mean they’ve been relying on him for over a month so he must be needed for something. Lilly won’t be eligible for the playoffs so i think we can survive until pettitte returns and vasquez improves (burnett is a lost cause)
It depends on whether the Yankees claiming Lilly before the 1st will uphold his prospective playoff eligibility.
Also, Moseley’s 5.67 ERA/1.62 WHIP in August doesn’t exactly scream “dependable.”
It is not surprising that the Yankers think there is one set of rules for them and one set for the rest of the league. The CBA is quite clear. The deal has to be in the league office by midnight, ET, last night. No deal.
Besides, the Dodgers should keep Lilly, offer him arbitration, and try to sign him in the winter.
Lilly is a fly-ball pitcher, correct?. I don’t know how he’d fare at new Yankee Stadium. I thought LA was a good fit for his style, with the dimensions and the density of the air during night games.
Don’t worry, the Yankees will buy a loop hole.
loop hole for montero?
Bullsh*t! The Yankees need to get Pettitte back and their rotation w/ CC and Andy will be tough to beat
What a complete and total surprise. Imagine Brian Cashman saying that he is set with his current team and rotation and then going after players. I hope he realizes that nobody buys it anymore and that if he says he’s not going after a player it means that he is. Reverse psychology doesn’t work with people who have a brain and know you’re team’s needs. Most likely the reason no one else put the claim on Lilly maybe except for the Rays is because those other teams probably feel set with their rotation or don’t have the money.
and it was an awful idea. Granderson hasn’t been terrible but really not worth it, especially with jackson having such a good year and still developing
He did just fine in his two healthy seasons as a Blue Jay in the AL East.
Thats what we said about Javy. And that turned out fine…
Yes, as a Blue Jay–where he had to face the Yankees instead of playing for them.
Huh? I was merely pointing out that as a Blue Jay, he had to face the Yankees offense–whereas now, as a prospective Yankee, he wouldn’t have to face the Yankees’ offense. It’s a pretty straightforward point.
“He had good numbers those three years but the Yankees ruined them? You serious?”
It seemed so. I was just rejecting other people’s opinions that he wouldn’t do well just because it’s the AL East. If he returned to the AL East, it wouldn’t be for a lackluster team–it would be for the Yankees, thus he wouldn’t face (arguably) the best offense in the AL East. Essentially, I’m just saying he could fare well enough to help the Yankees, despite pitching exclusively against AL East teams. That’s all.
You’re really taking it too far.
My points, in short:
(1) He has some good prior AL East experience
(2) He could now play for one of the better teams in the AL East, so it could be worse.
(3) That’s it. Cool out…
Okay, I’m not saying he would fare better in general just because he’s on the Yankees, I’m saying of all the teams to play for in the AL East, one can argue that playing for the Yankees (thus not having to face that lineup) is the best scenario [in the AL East].
*drives into sunset as credits roll*