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Elias Ranking AL Catchers Breakdown

By Tim Dierkes | October 27, 2010 at 9:00pm CDT

Word is that the official 2009-10 Elias Rankings are out, so we will try to get a hold of those soon.  We've got Eddie Bajek's reverse-engineered rankings available here in the meantime.

For those interested in seeing how the sausage is made, Eddie has provided a look into the American League catchers group.  As explained here, the stats used for catchers are plate appearances, batting average, on-base percentage, home runs, runs batted in, fielding percentage, and assists.  An adjustment is made for days spent on the disabled list.

The catcher breakdown can be seen here or directly below.

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  1. Billy

    12 years ago

    How is Wieters a type A? He isn’t even good.

    Reply
    • jwredsox

      12 years ago

      Didn’t mean to like….
      Wieters is good for a catcher.

      Reply
      • moonraker45

        12 years ago

        ps.. if u click the ‘liked’ button after u accidently liked something, it unlikes it.. just saying

        Reply
    • Allen

      12 years ago

      Just check to see how the app for the ihpone works. Btw it’s out guys.

      Reply
      • gigantes2425

        12 years ago

        Where did the giants find this offense?

        Reply
        • start_wearing_purple

          12 years ago

          Insert Barry Bonds steroid joke here.

    • Reaper87

      12 years ago

      there must be that few good catchers in the AL. batting .250 with an OPS under .700 this year is barely even half decent for a catcher

      Reply
  2. joe

    12 years ago

    where is mccann?

    Reply
    • joe

      12 years ago

      nevermind…

      Reply
  3. Slopeboy

    12 years ago

    Posada is ranked 4th?
    Who did the rating, Stevie Wonder ?

    Reply
    • moonraker45

      12 years ago

      joe girardi

      Reply
      • j6takish

        12 years ago

        If you payed attention to how these rankings are complied and have been compiled every single time they have ever been posted you would see that they have a massive offensive bias. You could put Adam Dunn behind the plate and he would probably come in the top 5

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        • Eddie Bajek

          12 years ago

          Yet Dunn is Type B…

          The derivation of the rankings is up there guys. All the stats used, the DL adjustments and their ranks in each of the seven categories. The top 20% (seven) are Type A free agents. 21-40% are Type B. All the numbers are up there, and there’s no reason for “How is X Type Y?” questions. The answer is there.

        • John W

          12 years ago

          Dunn is 74.16 as a 1B (type B). If he suddenly “became” a AL catcher that would put him between Suzuki 77.23 and Weiters 73.66 as a type A, pushing Weiters down to a type B… at least that is the way I understand it.

        • Eddie Bajek

          12 years ago

          The number is dependent upon others in your position group. It doesn’t translate over.

      • MB923

        12 years ago

        If Girardi did it, he probably would rate himself over Posada first.

        Reply
    • MB923

      12 years ago

      I really hope next year is Posadas last year behind the plate. He is beyond awful. He can’t block the plate, he allows too many passed balls and wild pitches. I hope Montero is ready by 2012 to catch but I doubt that.

      Reply
      • $1529282

        12 years ago

        Based on scouting reports, it doesn’t sound like Montero will ever be “ready to catch.” He’s already projected as a DH.

        Reply
        • MB923

          12 years ago

          Yeah I heard the same thing although I heard that a while back and haven’t been up to date with it. I just think Posada has to go, or at least not catch or at most catch once a week. I respect for what he’s done for the franchise but he’s too much of a liability behind the plate.

      • TapDancingTeddy

        12 years ago

        I hope the same. Posada’s been great for the franchise, but this year has been embarrassing for him. Some of it may not be his fault. He’s been dinged up more than ever before and at his age it’s harder to play through pain.

        I still think Posada can be worthwhile if he is limited to catching 75-90 games by design rather than by injury. If he’s rested and healthy he may rebound somewhat.

        Even so at 39 next year, it should be his last. Hope he retires a Yankee after 2011, and doesn’t have to go out like Bernie Williams did: still wanting to play with no offer from the only team he wants to play for.

        Reply
      • Slopeboy

        12 years ago

        His contract is up next year, he will hopefully retire. I love Posada and all he’s done in a Yankees uniform, but it was apparent this year, it’s time to go. I remember Gary Carter’s last years as a catcher, where a mulitude of pitchers were actually throwing the ball by him, and I mean while his was behind the plate. I remember once where the HP Ump took a throw on the mask! Jorge is not at that point yet, but I’m hoping I don’t see that again.

        Reply
  4. oriolebird

    12 years ago

    Wieters is awesome defensively. Great arm. Soon he’ll have a new hitting coach who can hopefully do something about that big, loopy slow-mo swing.

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