The worst-kept secret in Major League Baseball has now become official. Ozzie Guillen will no longer manage the White Sox and it appears that he'll sign a new deal with the Marlins, who would send compensation to Chicago if a deal with Guillen becomes official.
The White Sox announced tonight that they have released Guillen from his contract at his request. He won't be in uniform for the season's final two games, according to the team, which retains rights to compensation if another club hires Guillen to manage in 2012. White Sox chairman Jerry Reinsdorf says he appreciates Guillen's work and wishes him the best.
“We certainly cannot thank Ozzie enough for all he has done during his eight seasons as manager of the Chicago White Sox, highlighted by an unforgettable 2005 World Series championship,” he said.
The next time Guillen dons a Major League uniform, it will likely be for the Marlins. His deal with Florida is expected to be for three years, according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (on Twitter). Guillen had one year remaining on his deal in Chicago, where he had managed since 2004.
The White Sox will obtain two minor leaguers as compensation, according to Bruce Levine of ESPNChicago.com. They were hoping for a "decent prospect" from the Marlins, but weren't expecting anyone on Florida's 40-man roster, according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today (on Twitter).
Current manager Jack McKeon won't be back in Florida next year and the Marlins started a complete search for his replacement, even though they already appear to have decided on Guillen. The Marlins interviewed third base coach Joe Espada, hitting coach Eduardo Perez and Nationals coach Bo Porter today for the vacancy.
Guillen leaves the Windy City with a record of 678-617. The White Sox made two playoff appearances under Guillen: they won the World Series in 2005, Guillen's second season, and lost to the Rays in the 2008 ALDS.
Joe Cowley of the Chicago Sun-Times, who first reported that Guillen was out as manager, says there will likely be substantive changes to Chicago’s coaching staff. Pitching coach Don Cooper already has a deal on the table to stay in the organization, according to Cowley. Bench coach Joey Cora is expected to join Guillen with the Marlins, according to Morosi (on Twitter). First, Cora will manage Chicago's last two regular season games, according to MLB.com's Scott Merkin (on Twitter). Tony La Russa and Buddy Bell are expected to be considered for Chicago's managing gig, tweets Morosi.
The White Sox and Marlins discussed a Guillen for Mike Stanton trade last offseason (don't expect a substantive return for the White Sox if the deal goes through). Though they're rare, there is some precedent for player-manager swaps. Following the 2002 season, the Rays sent Randy Winn to Seattle for minor leaguer Antonio Perez to compensate the Mariners for losing Lou Piniella.
Want to see LoMo to the White Sox so badly. Would be so funny.
Ozzie is 10x louder than LoMo. Why would they want THAT baggage??
Logan Morrison, see ya later!
no way. the white sox will get “a player to be named later” out of the farm system
Let’s hope for his sake and the sake of the White Sox that this deal involves Logan Morrison
LoMo isn’t the piece going to CHI.
They can give the White Sox a box of oranges and some sand as far as I’m concerned. Miami will soon come to the realization that Ozzie sucks. Enjoy disgusting language after every loss and refusing to bench .160 BA players.
They can give the White Sox a box of oranges and some sand as far as I’m concerned. Miami will soon come to the realization that Ozzie sucks. Enjoy disgusting language after every loss and refusing to bench .160 BA players.
Id say Coghlan is.
If they resign Infante, that could make sense. They could rely on Dominguez next year for second base or third if they don’t sign Reyes.
What pie in the sky world are you living in that the Marlins would A)have the resources to sign Jose Reyes and B) That Reyes would agree to switch positions.
it’s already been reported that the marlins are looking at signing big money players for next year.
Uh-huh. Even if that is true, that doesn’t answer the second part. Why would Reyes agree to switch positions?
hanley would move to third, as he should and i believe he’s already said he would (not that i think reyes is really gonna go to florida)
I doubt Reyes will want to play 2B again. He tried it briefly when the Mets had K. Matsui at SS in 2004. They promptly ended that experiment.
Hanley said he would move to 3rd if the Marlins signed Reyes.
If they resign Infante, that could make sense. They could rely on Dominguez next year for second base or third if they don’t sign Reyes.
I would be very pleased with Coghlan coming to Chicago. I don’t think it will happen, but it gives the Sox a young left handed leadoff man, which will be a vacancy this season. Not saying he’s going to turn it around, but I think he would be a nice addition. The Sox should have traded Ozzie when they (allegedly) had a chance to get Logan Morrison.
De Aza can probably lead off
Not sure what organization is a bigger joke at this juncture, I guess we’ll have to see what Florida gives up for him.
Pirates fan calls Marlins and Chisox a joke? Come on.
Hey now knock it off. Forget the 2 decades of awful baseball they were in 1st place for a day this year!
and a twins fan likes the comment. what a visionary.
Pirates fan calls Marlins and Chisox a joke? Come on.
Wait a minute…The Pittsburgh Pirates Fan thinks the Marlins and White Sox organizations are jokes??? But haven’t they both won WS rings in the last decade while the Pirates haven’t made it to the playoffs since 1992…where btw you lost to the braves in the first round. wow.
White Sox= World Series Champs 6 years ago. Marlins= World Series Champs 4 years ago. Pirates= 20 straight losing seasons.
Ah meant 8 years for Marlins.
was this some sort of reverse troll, where your intention was to be owned mercilessly?
first thing’s first: that talented young player of ours, morrison? he talks too damn much. you know how i hate that. i want him demoted posthaste!
now, on to business. someone get kenny williams on the phone. i want ozzie guillen and i want him now
meanwhile, in chicago: “screw the white sox! they’re so damn cheap! i wish i could manage the marlins instead”
meanwhile, in chicago: “screw the white sox! they’re so damn cheap! i wish i could manage the marlins instead”
In a display of the brilliant logic that permeates their front office, the Marlins are interested in letting the most outspoken man in baseball manage their team after disciplining Logan Morrison for being a loose cannon. Ok then.
I hear Carlos Zambrano is available too.
I hear Carlos Zambrano is available too.
I a similar comment at a Marlins beet writer a month or two ago when it was a rumor (around the time of the LoMo thing) and got ripped for it. It will be fun to watch for fans. Front office will hate it.
I’m sure that Marlins writer sure knows his vegetables, but perhaps you’ve misspelled something.
I apologize that I did not pay enough attention to what I was typing on a blog about Ozzie Guillen at 4am (while on a study break) to catch my agregious error.
Think this league switch will have much of an effect on his swears/9 in post game interviews?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL and hah
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL and hah
i dont get this at all. why in gods name would you make this trade? it makes no sense whatsoever for the marlins. there are far better managers out there to be had.
i dont get this at all. why in gods name would you make this trade? it makes no sense whatsoever for the marlins. there are far better managers out there to be had.
I highly doubt that they’d give up LoMo for a manager. He’s just too talented. But if it does happen it’d be really interesting.
I highly doubt that they’d give up LoMo for a manager. He’s just too talented. But if it does happen it’d be really interesting.
if the fish give up morrison this might be one of the worst trades in MLB history. Not a Knock against Ozzie by any means….as a Marlins fan I think it’d be pretty great to have him as a manager….but at the cost of a fan-favorite? naaa.
As a marlins fan….I’m scared, but not scared of Ozzie
I’m about 900% sure it won’t be LoMo in the trade….but it will be someone, and a young someone….for a manager.
I’m about 900% sure it won’t be LoMo in the trade….but it will be someone, and a young someone….for a manager.
Most baseball people are pretty certain it isn’t Logan Morrison. Well, Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus said, “I sure hope nobody in Chicago thinks you are getting Logan Morrison here.”
Most baseball people are pretty certain it isn’t Logan Morrison. Well, Kevin Goldstein of Baseball Prospectus said, “I sure hope nobody in Chicago thinks you are getting Logan Morrison here.”
if the fish give up morrison this might be one of the worst trades in MLB history. Not a Knock against Ozzie by any means….as a Marlins fan I think it’d be pretty great to have him as a manager….but at the cost of a fan-favorite? naaa.
As a marlins fan….I’m scared, but not scared of Ozzie
Come on LoMo. We need ya buddy!
Wait ’til he sees the new Marlins logo.
Yeah, why didn’t they just use Green, Orange, and White.
Yeah, why didn’t they just use Green, Orange, and White.
0 sense made
You’ve got this huge problem with your outspoken players yet you want the most unfiltered person in baseball to manage those players?
there is a difference between an out spoken un proven prospect and a proven winning manager who wears his heart on his sleeve
Anyone who believes they’re trading Morrison needs to open their eyes.
but they’d getting rid of such a loudmouth! it makes so much sense!
but they’d getting rid of such a loudmouth! it makes so much sense!
They could do Ozzie + and get Lo-Mo. That doesn’t sound like what is going to happen but I’m sure if they really wanted Morrison they could get him.
Ozzie + LoMo + Hanley = Reality Show. Just another reason they should sign Reyes.
I’m thinking maybe a movie. A sequel called Mouthyball.
With all the quality, quality lines being played here so far on Ozzie, LoMo, the Marlins org. in general, you go and ruin it with a “Mouthyball” joke. You can do better.
Haha I’m sorry to disappoint. It was just one of those corny jokes I couldn’t pass up for whatever reason.
They could do Ozzie + and get Lo-Mo. That doesn’t sound like what is going to happen but I’m sure if they really wanted Morrison they could get him.
Anyone who believes they’re trading Morrison needs to open their eyes.
Next Year Marlins:
Reyes
Bonifacio
Hanley
Stanton
Sanchez
Morrison
Buck
Coghlan/Infante
Pitcher
…yeah, thats pretty good. Now, if they can get one more pitcher to pair with Johnson and Sanchez cuz Nolasco will be gone.
LOL @ Reyes.
Why LOL. They will trade Nolasco to free up salary and when teams move into new stadiums, they invest in the team in order to draw in the crowd.
BTW, I’m a Phillies fan, so I’m not being a homer here.
your not being a homer then, but you are being silly and just plain weird
We’ll see when the Marlins go out and spend this offseason…
“marlins go out and spend”
*chuckles to himself*
the marlins WILL sign one of Wilson/Fielder/Buehrle/Reyes/Sabathia/Pujols
and trade an OF for a SP.
im holding you to this
im holding you to this
I think they will have Morrison, Stanton, and Bonafacio in OF. They could trade Coghlan, but they wont get a good number 3 starter for him
Just like the Angels WOULD sign Crawford then Beltre last year… Whoops.
Just like the Angels WOULD sign Crawford then Beltre last year… Whoops.
Lol at Buehrle in that group of players
cant say this enough..buehrle has said this over and over and over…cards, whitesox or retirement…he lives in the saint louis area when he is not in the chicagoland area why in the world would he want to go to a team in miami that is rebuilding?
why would he want to stay with the sox? the cards are a much better fit for him
We’ll see when the Marlins go out and spend this offseason…
your not being a homer then, but you are being silly and just plain weird
what makes you think that reyes would even want to go to the marlins?
Next Year Marlins:
Reyes
Bonifacio
Hanley
Stanton
Sanchez
Morrison
Buck
Coghlan/Infante
Pitcher
…yeah, thats pretty good. Now, if they can get one more pitcher to pair with Johnson and Sanchez cuz Nolasco will be gone.
LOL, the White Sox might blow his last game.
LOL, the White Sox might blow his last game.
This in win, lose!
If the Sox receive Chris Yelich, then Christmas comes early.
You people are retarded if you think you’re going to get anything of value for a manager.
haahahaha look up
haahahaha look up
espn is reporting that ozzie was traded to marlins for 2 minor league prospects…
that was fast.
that was fast.
espn is reporting that ozzie was traded to marlins for 2 minor league prospects…
Ozzie wrote in his own blog (since taken down, surely because of some sort of rule or stipulation) that he accepted a position with the Marlins. Once the season ends, the White Sox will get something from the Marlins.
Ozzie wrote in his own blog (since taken down, surely because of some sort of rule or stipulation) that he accepted a position with the Marlins. Once the season ends, the White Sox will get something from the Marlins.
“Guillen also expressed an increasing distain for the sabermetrics staff members who made less frequent appearances during batting practice this season.” (from the Chicago Tribune story)
Ouch. That can only be Rick Hahn.
I just cant come to understand how a team could want such a annoying/mediocre manager so badly. Is it just because he isnt American? This whole thing just seems weird and ignorant too me.
That’s an odd thing to say.
No.1 Miami has a large Latin population so Guillen is a natural attraction.
No.2 Guillen is a wreck waiting to happen which attracts all people.
No.3 This adds up to more people at the ballpark and more money in Loria’s pocket.
No.4 Managers don’t make a heck of a lot of difference in a team’s performance. It’s the players (especially one’s with career years) that make a manager look good.
ozzie is not a train wreck waiting to happen. also look at his inter league record it shows he is a pretty good NL manager
I just cant come to understand how a team could want such a annoying/mediocre manager so badly. Is it just because he isnt American? This whole thing just seems weird and ignorant too me.
1 down. Now please get rid of Kenny, easily the worst GM in baseball.
That is completely wrong. I have no idea how you could think this and also be a Sox fan. He isn’t perfect, but overall he has been far from the worst in baseball. If you are blaming him this year, you shouldn’t. This team looks great on paper and I think will have a big comeback year next year. I didn’t meet a single Sox fan that was not pumped for the team this year. I think Dunn will work out for us. Bad years happen, this was his first ever. Its far more likely he returns to form. Rios has slowly been coming back to form over the 2nd half as well.
Heck, look at the now ex GM on the Northside. You think he is better than KW?
not a kenny lover here…he has had his mistakes in the past but besides peavy(who is off the books after next season and might actually provide something next year) Rios who kenny trying to block the tigers which blew up in his face and trading away hudson and gio he really has not had that many bad deals…dont say dunn because no one knew he was going to be bad this year…but he got danks, thornton, thome, floyd and pods back in the day for literally nothing of value. Manny didnt work out but didnt bust either his numbers in a sox uni were pretty good…Griffey put buts in the seats and actually helped get the sox into the post season..Also he was able to sign sale who was thought to not be sign able which is why he was one of the top pitchers in that draft but fell to the sox.
so how is kenny one of the worst in baseball? best?…no but far from worst
One of the worst if not the worst in the last few seasons. Nick Swisher? Aquiring and trading..what’d he get? Chris Young? The list goes on and on and on.
1 down. Now please get rid of Kenny, easily the worst GM in baseball.
I want to see Manny and Ozzie together again.
That would probably end up causing a nuclear explosion that the world just wouldn’t be able to handle.
That would probably end up causing a nuclear explosion that the world just wouldn’t be able to handle.
I want to see Manny and Ozzie together again.
Outspoken Guillen goes to a franchise that doesn’t allow anyone to speak their mind. That is too funny. It wont last a year.
“The White Sox and Marlins discussed a Guillen for Mike Stanton trade last offseason (don’t expect a substantive return for the White Sox if the deal goes through).”
Wow. That would have been a terrible deal for the Marlins. I can’t believe they would have even discussed that.
They didn’t. The player the Sox wanted was Logan Morrison.
Could be worse, you could end up with Fredi Gonzalez again.
Girardi was worse than Fredi.
The reason for Josh Johnson’s arm problems (pitching after rain delay).
Consistently sacrifice bunting with our 30hr 2nd basemen early in game.
Good riddance! Great news for the White Sox. Bad news for the tigers and Twins because the Sox will play better in the absence of this horrid distraction and professional windbag.
Also potentially great news for the Phils and Nationals if the Marlins sign OzGui.
How are Sox fans not calling for Kenny Williams head? He’s the responsible party in all of this and comletely exposed for his horrible deals and contracts.
Al Davis would love this, it was great for The White Sox because we were going to fire him anyways
Haha, one of the Detroit Tigers most famous trades was for a young announcer who went on to become legendary: Ernie Harwell. Weird trades are baseball!
Haha, one of the Detroit Tigers most famous trades was for a young announcer who went on to become legendary: Ernie Harwell. Weird trades are baseball!
Oh those two guys already said they had nothing better to do anyway.
Oh those two guys already said they had nothing better to do anyway.
I believe you mean Marlins fan. Singular.
I believe you mean Marlins fan. Singular.
Zing.
I vaguely remember the Pinella trade, I just figured that was a once in a lifetime kinda deal.
Zing.
I vaguely remember the Pinella trade, I just figured that was a once in a lifetime kinda deal.
Dude get a clue about baseball the Tigers didnt trade for Ernie!
There have been several manager trades in MLB history.
There have been several manager trades in MLB history.
In 1948, Branch Rickey, the Brooklyn Dodgers GM, made a trade with the Atlanta Crackers to obtain announcer Ernie Harwell, giving up catcher Cliff Dapper. Harwell filled in for Dodgers announcer Red Barber, who had an ulcer, and stayed on 1 more season. Then he spent time with the New York Giants and Baltimore Orioles before landing in Detroit in 1960.
In 1948, Branch Rickey, the Brooklyn Dodgers GM, made a trade with the Atlanta Crackers to obtain announcer Ernie Harwell, giving up catcher Cliff Dapper. Harwell filled in for Dodgers announcer Red Barber, who had an ulcer, and stayed on 1 more season. Then he spent time with the New York Giants and Baltimore Orioles before landing in Detroit in 1960.
The over under is 1.5…I’m taking the under
Ah, yes shades of Dibbs and Lou, I can see it now.
Ah, yes shades of Dibbs and Lou, I can see it now.
Yeah, it’s like someone took Pink Floyd’s ‘Dark Side Of The Moon’ cover and flushed it down a toilet.
I am a Marlins fan. I watch most of the games on tv because that stadium is an AWEFUL place to see a game. I will be interested if they can sustain long term increased attendance.
You’ll be surprised how many fans come out of the woodwork once they open up that new ballpark. I bet they sell out the next three years at least.
wow i never liked so many comments in a thread here.
Haha nothing like some good pwnage.
Finally, something worse looking than the Mets Citi Field inaugural season patches.